Historic Endorsement - The American College Of Physicians Supports Medical Marijuana

[LuciferN]

Here is the article:
Why Having The Top Doctors Association Say "YES" to Medical Marijuana is a Historic Endorsement (http://www.chroniccorner.net/2008/February/Why-Having-The-Top-Doctors-Association-Say-YES-to-Medical-Marijuana-is-a-Historic-Endorsement.htm)

Do you think this will help make some advance in the medical marijuana program in the USA ?

Let me know what you think !

[LuciferN]

Bump so you can read it

[beachguy in thongs]

The A.M.A. might recommend use while testing on it is still on-going. The Virginia Nurses Association is/was behind it. What else do we need to do?

[beachguy in thongs]

Here it is, from 2005:

The Virginia Nurses Association the first in the country to come out in favor of medical marijuana, has reconfirmed its support for therapeutic cannabis and called for immediate legislation to legalize its medicinal use. Representing some 80,000 Virginia nurses, the association declared last week that it "will continue" to seek the regularization of medical marijuana as a therapeutic substance.

Medical Marijuana: Virginia Nurses Association Reiterates Its Support (http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/402/vna.shtml)

[8182KSKUSH]

Here is the article:
Why Having The Top Doctors Association Say "YES" to Medical Marijuana is a Historic Endorsement (http://www.chroniccorner.net/2008/February/Why-Having-The-Top-Doctors-Association-Say-YES-to-Medical-Marijuana-is-a-Historic-Endorsement.htm)

Do you think this will help make some advance in the medical marijuana program in the USA ?

Let me know what you think !

No. There is no MMJ program in the U.S. It is completely 100% illegal.:(
It has to be rescheduled, either by an act of congress or directly by the AG. I believe that the most recent petition was requested in 2002, from what I understand? I have no idea where it is at, it is still being reviewed I guess?:wtf:
Basically you have to prove that one of the mandatory conditions for a sched 1 is absolutely false. Here I conveniently cut and paste them for you.

Schedule I

The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse. (That is arguably true, not absolutely false, however the same can be said about lots of things, and as I understand it all these conditions must be met, not just 1 or 2.)
The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States. (This is where MMJ is taking a hack at it, and this condition is not absolutely true, hasn't ever been. But I don't think that anyone or any group is going to change that in the eyes of the federal government at least.)
There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision. I am not even smart enough to completely understand that, but I bet that it is not an absolute truth.Examples: Heroin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin), LSD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD), Marijuana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29), MDMA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxymethamphetamine) (Ecstasy), methaqualone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone) (Quaalude).


Here are the conditions that the DEA stated that a drug must meet to be considered for medical use. Cannabis by default does not meet some of these requirements due to the prohibitive nature of it. This is where the MMJ argument gets stopped at the federal level, they don't care what states think, they have their own terms.

The drug's chemistry is known and reproducible; 10-4:thumbsup:
There are adequate safety studies; :wtf:
There are adequate and well-controlled studies proving efficacy; :wtf:
The drug is accepted by qualified experts; and :thumbsup:
The scientific evidence is widely available:wtf:

But let's say that it gets past this point and is moved, where would it go?
Sched 2?

Schedule II

The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions.
Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.Examples: methadone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methadone), methamphetamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine), methylphenidate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate) (Ritalin), morphine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphine), oxycodone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxycodone) (OxyContin), phencyclidine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phencyclidine) (PCP).:wtf:

So what would this mean?:wtf:

Schedule III

The drug or other substance has a potential for abuse less than the drugs or other substances in schedules I and II.
The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.Examples: Anabolic steroids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid), ketamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine) (Special K), synthetic THC (Marinol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinol)).:wtf:

This would be the best that I honestly think that anyone could even hope for, and that is if you already believe in miracles and think that the DEA will move it in the first place.:(

Truth is, it's not a drug, and it should not even be regulated as such. It shouldn't be defined as a drug. I don't believe that allowing the debate to continue in the context of cannabis being a "drug" is going to even allow for much of any progress in the anti-prohibition movement or make it safe and available for people that use it, and focusing the debate solely on medical benefit is just what the DEA wants, they want to have that debate. It should be considered no different than alcohol or tobacco period. That is what we should be demanding and focusing on.:(

Yes, I cut and paste everything from Wiki, and yes I know it's Wiki, it is convenient sorry.:jointsmile:

[Storm Crow]

There IS a Federal Medical Marijuana program! Please read this article from last year.-

cannabisnews.com: A Few People Get Uncle Sam's Weed (http://cannabisnews.com/news/23/thread23425.shtml)

Now about the ACP, you can give them a big "THANK YOU!" here.....

ACP: Contact us (http://www.acponline.org/cgi-bin/feedback)

Granny:hippy:

[8182KSKUSH]

Yeah I think everyone is aware of this. (yawn)


This is not an ACTIVE OR ONGOING PROGRAM.
The particapants are GRANDFATHERED (GRANDMOTHERED) IN.
This is so that they do not sue the federal government in court and set a new presedant (sp)?
Once these people die, no one else is getting anything. This program is not going to benefit any current MMJ patients aside from those 7 people. I realize that to this date these folks recieve their medicine, however it is not by any means an "ACTIVE AND ONGOING PROGRAM" in terms of it ever increasing or expanding. It is a program for only 7 people period that's it. So if you consider that a "program" then fine I don't. And when those people are dead, will that program still be going on? This program was ended as of 1991! The remaining 7 patients only continue to recieve marijuana so that they cannot sue the Federal Government period! That hardly constitues a "Federal Marijuana Program". Maybe a bit more relevant to us in 1983, but not really now.I will not cut and paste anything, just take my word for it I guess!;)

And no, cut and pasting is not any worse than cut and pasting a link, it just means that you don't have to click a link to see what I am talking about, doesn't make it any more or less credible.:) I simply do that so others don't necessarily have to take my word for it, the same reason you provide links, it's no different.:jointsmile:


PS,
I enjoy reading your post Grannie no disrespect intended to you, this is just my opinion.:D

[Storm Crow]

All too often people post a link and no one bothers to click it! They just read a title and maybe get a bit more info from the surrounding sentences and think they know the whole story- when they really don't. I always worry that folks will "just take my word for it" and not learn for themselves!

Your cut and paste was nicely done- all the info was right there for them to read- not just selected bits or a URL. Hard to get just half the story, when it is all right there to read! :thumbsup: No disrespect was intended on my part either!

And, no, not everyone knows about the federal program. There are always new kids showing up on the boards. You gotta admit, the government doesn't really advertise about it's MMJ program! Unless we talk about it every once in a while, the kids will never know about it!

And although only a few patients are in the Federal program, it is still operant- they get their government-grown cannabis. The "machinery" is there! Even with the reportedly poor quality of our (and Canada's, for that matter) "governmental cannabis" several of the patients seem to be far outliving their expected life spans! Very inconvenient for our "no medical use" government. :D Suing would bring this to light, so of course, they keep it going.

When the government FINALLY gets out of denial about medical cannabis, I am willing to bet that the program will be revived and re-worked. (But who will want their crappy weed?) Rampant expansion of governmental programs is nothing new! :cool:

I consider the little federal program like a seed- all but dormant right now, but it just needs the right (political) climate to grow!- Granny:hippy:

[8182KSKUSH]

When the government FINALLY gets out of denial about medical cannabis, I am willing to bet that the program will be revived and re-worked. (But who will want their crappy weed?) Rampant expansion of governmental programs is nothing new! :cool:

I consider the little federal program like a seed- all but dormant right now, but it just needs the right (political) climate to grow!- Granny:hippy:

I can't argue with that and hope you are right! But really, like you said who wants their schwagg?:D:thumbsup: