Donkey Dick and VT local IBL Indoor/Outdoor 2008

[stinkyattic]

Long time no log!

Since the last one was something I've never done properly to completion before (a full hydro run using NFT), I figured that I should post this new learning experience. You can laugh all ya want.
I'm NOT an outdoor grower but I was over at a good buddy's house a couple months back and he was like, "open your hand... Donkey Dick... Merry Christmas" and just dumped a big handful of these FAT beans in my open palm.

I did some reading around and found the origin of the strain. It comes from West Coast Seed Co. and was bred down from an OLD (pre-Dutch era) Skunk on Vancouver Island and has been bred down and stabilized since then, becoming a true IBL. I suspect that means it is related to the Island Sweet Skunk, another old Vancouver outdoor IBL.

From this post at ICMag: International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - Donkey Dick (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=51794&highlight=donkey+dick)

"Well it seems to be an outdoor strain suited for Canada in Vancouver, so am unsure of how it would fare indoors. Are you looking for an outdoor plant? They can get purple and yield well outdoors with multiple large colas.
Mostly Indica. This big skunk is a Vancouver Island original, with long skunk buds that are light green and full skunky flavor. Good instant "up" high. Good commercial yielder. Height 6-8 feet. Flowering time 8 weeks. Yield 1/2 to 1.5 lb Harvest outdoor Sept 30 to Oct 15.
More of a sweet skunky like cabbage green. A very dense, earlier finishing indica that grows big like a donkey dick. They grow big colas outdoors, so is not good for guerilla growing. What it is made of may be Mighty Mite x some kind of skunk."

I did find this at the Quebec Seed Bank site though:

"Donkey Dick (Hybrid Coastal Mountain H. Plant) - Donkey Dick is one of the nicest genitors from the North Coast of the USA. Loved for its good taste and sticky touch with good results indoor. This mix particularly stands up like French bread. Winner of the PUF 1997 in Quebec"

What I have is the Vancouver one.

My intent is to grow out, mother, clone, and sex the plants by the beginning of March so I can do a seed run and produce a good number of clones for the outdoor season.

I popped the beaners on the 16th of January using the vial method with just a few drops of tap water until the seeds had cracked and shown viability. I started 11 hoping for 10 to germ but all of them popped.

They went into nursery 6-pax of Farfard Seedling Starting Mix and were kept slightly moist under a prop dome (I was not able to water them 2x a day, hence the dome) and at room temperature for a week until they emerged.

Upon emergence, the dome was removed and the plants were put under a 24" New Wave T5 fixture just a couple inches from the plant tops, and the new seedlings were given their first heavy watering.

They were allowed to grow in the 6-pax (each cell holds about the volume equivalent of 2 fl. ounces) until they had 2 sets of adult leaves and were starting on a third.

The first two pics are what they look like after their first transplant, which was 2 weeks ago.

They were transplanted into 3" nursery pots with ProMix BX- not my first choice but it's winter in New England and the farmer supply was sold out of my favorite cow shit/humus blend.

The pics are just 3 days apart. Boy do those Dicks grow fast when ya pay attention to them...

[killerweed420]

Those look nice stinky. I would like to find an outdoor strain like that. Something that'll grow here in western washington.

[stinkyattic]

The Donkey Dick or Island Sweet Skunk are both appropriate to that climate. They have good mold resistance.

[zebulon]

Your Dicks look good Stinky...:thumbsup:
I'll be following this tread for sure, cuz i am a mostly outdoor grower and i can surely learn a lot from this thread...
I gonna start my own outdoor log soon...
Good luck...:thumbsup:

[basementbotany]

are you going to take stab at growing it indoors also?

[stinkyattic]

Thanks Zeb, I may be turning to you for advice then. This will actually be my first serious outdoor ever!

The plan here is to keep a permanent mother and a male of the line indoors so I can run off seeds/clones whenever the bug bites me. I had intended to do this with a local IBL called Vermont Green Lifesaver but never got the seeds from my buddy.

I will be flowering a set of clones indoors when I sex them- I'll keep the mothers/father and flower one cutting from each to sex, tossing the males and their respective donors as soon as I determine which is the best male in the lot to breed.

This will all be happening sometime soon, since I pinched the plants almost 2 weeks ago and side growth is picking up. I also gave them their first feeding, which was a mild solution of fish emulsion and a bit of GH micro. They will be going on a proper regimen of Cornucopia Grow/Tricarboxylic acids this week.

[Backpacker420]

YESS! This is exactly what I've been waiting for, a log from stinkyattic! Hopefully sometime I'll be able to see one of your indoor logs. :]

[stinkyattic]

This is a BOTH log actually.
Here's some pics at Day 25 from first moistening of the seeds.
Notice that the plants are yellowing on the low leaves. They are hungry! They need bigger homes! So that's what they get...
Pic 1- A VERY healthy root ball
Pic 2, 3- New homes in 6" nursery pots under the MH 250, trying to encourage enough stretch to clone from.
Edit: Yes, that is a 2500pc. case of JiffyPots. Yes, that is about a dozen flats of legal vegetable and perennial starts. lol.

[keeko]

looking awsome stinksters........have you found a spot outside for your ladies to bask in the sun?

[stinkyattic]

The kiddos are showing excellent side-shoot development since their pinch last week. I forgot to mention there's also a pair of BOG BlueMoonRocks seedlings in there. They are darker green with rounder leaf tips.
I haven't found a spot yet. I may give the cuts to someone else for the outdoor part depending how spooked I get, lol.

[gottagrow4]

hey stinky...ur plants are lookin alot bushier than mine...whats ur seret?i always think im doing pretty good then when i compare mine to everybodyelsess i feel like im nowhere near as big for the amount of time...i just posted new pics from last night....check em out... http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/149609-first-grow-any-help-appreciated.html#post1811190

[stinkyattic]

Ah yeah I just had a look- my plants are 10 days older than yours and my lights are bigger. They lived under a t5 fixture for a while, which is a really intense light. Given your lights, your plants look really good.

[maspino1]

holy shit, in your first post, the second pic down to the bottom right of it is gonna be one hell
of a huge donkey dick, it's so busy already
and what was your reason for removing them from the t5 lights stink?

[stinkyattic]

They got to the size where they no longer fit under the T5 lights and I needed the lights for vegetables, so I put the DDs under the halide. They seem happy so far, don't ya think? :D

[maspino1]

they look like they're in disneyland they're so happy lol

[SnSstealth]

ive wanted to see an outdoor grow for a while...i would LOVE to grow outside, cant here...settle for my organic indoor soil though:thumbsup: keep it up stinky...Im following this one!
WT

[melodious fellow]

wow I am so excited.

A grow log from STINKY!

love, peace

[SnSstealth]

sorry to infringe on your thread with this stinky...kinda need this answer in the next day or 2...im gonna do some good pruning few days before i go into flowering....few fan leaves, some underdeveloped sidebranches, and top a few more....should i do it all at once, or 2 or 3 sessions....whould i do it right before induction of flowering?...same night?...week before?....gimme some ideas guys...

whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

sorry to infringe on your thread with this stinky...kinda need this answer in the next day or 2...im gonna do some good pruning few days before i go into flowering....few fan leaves, some underdeveloped sidebranches, and top a few more....should i do it all at once, or 2 or 3 sessions....whould i do it right before induction of flowering?...same night?...week before?....gimme some ideas guys...

The general rule on pruning is this:
-Don't top within the last 2 weeks before you begin flower.
-Avoid removing fan leaves at ALL
-Spindly, low side branches that get no light can be removed at any time, and the palnt will baely notice their absence.
So do the topping right away, and then allow 2 weeks' recovery. The other stuff isn't time-sensitive, as it does not have a significant effect on the hormone distribution wihtin the plant.

[SnSstealth]

thanks so much stinky;)....wish i could thank you with a sample when im done...heh
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

it wont let me rep you again..lol

[stinkyattic]

Well I got a late request for a different strain so now this is going to be a 2- IBL grow log.

The second strain is of mysterious lineage but it is a local IBL that a grow buddy was working for nearly the past decade. He's just relocated to the Southwest and I have inherited the seeds from his final seed patch. It has been bred to finish on time in central Vermont. The heritage includes something called 'green lifesaver' that I've never heard of elsewhere, and by appearances there may be some Northern Lights influence in there as well, and Skunk#1 heritage in outdoor lines is common in New England, but who knows?! The past several generations have been going fully, truly purple WELL before the cold nights of fall arrive. It doesn't have a name, but the guys call it 'purple shit'.

Here's the seed starting method- a dozen seeds in a small glass vial with a few drops of water.

Donkey Dicks are on the top shelf of the wire rack. My 250MH finally shit the bed and I need to get it serviced. Luckily the local hydro shop owner is a talented electronics troubleshooter- anything from twitchy ballasts to laptops with bad circuits. Anyway the Dicks have to chill under flouros for a while and got stretched sitting under a dead lamp for the last week. They have enough secondary growth that I expect to be taking cuttings this coming weekend.

[zebulon]

Wow...looking very cool...:thumbsup:

I have a Q... what nutes are you using?? And what will you use when they are planted out??

[stinkyattic]

Right now I'm running Cornucopia nutes, which are also a local Vermont creation. They're next to impossible to find, but one hydro shop in Putney carries the whole lineup.

Outdoors, I plan to use bat guano.

[hydrocannabis]

well U have done it agen stinky.:thumbsup:

and I cant wate to see what U do outdoors.:D
and I too will be doing an outdoors also.:D

well have a good one stinky.

[SnSstealth]

lookin lovely stinky....like the germ method...beats my paper towels way to hell....lol, gonna try that next time...that strain sounds insane!...
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[melodious fellow]

wow, that is quite a lot of beautiful plants!

[stinkyattic]

Okay the VT local stuff germed overnight. Root tips are showing, but barely extended. So they are going into soil this evening.
Score is: DD @ 42 days, nearly ready to clone, still not showing alternating nodes or preflowers. VT @ 2 days, germed and ready to plant.
Thanks, Melodious Fellow. Those ones on the bottom shelf are my mother plants- examples of many of the strains I have been lucky enough to grow over the years.

[Shovelhandle]

Excuse my iggy-ness, but what is Local IBL, Stinky?

Thanks!

Shov

Hey Stinky, glad to see your writing a new grow log, indoor/outdoor at that! Should be very interesting.


Shov

would you send me an email, if you could please

shov

[stinkyattic]

In Bred Line.

Basically, a close group of growers in a certain area passes the same bunch of seeds around for long enough that the strain drifts into something stable and perfectly adapted to the local climate.

The method behind this is what the outdoor growers I know do each year: They plant one seed patch among the group of growers and select only the hardiest, most vigorous male every year to pollinate the patch. All other males are killed, leaving one sexy male and all the females. Then, at harvest time, they find the most spectacular female from that patch based on whatever the priority is- yield, vigor, flavor, mold resistance, etc- and save only the seeds from that one desirable female. These are saved for planting the next spring, and the cycle repeats.

[KL4D4]

Wow IBL is amazing, maybe I can try to create some seeds outdoors this summer. I also like the compacted DD's and lastly the seed stash box. I'd like to have a collection like that.

[stinkyattic]

I think I need to clarify what an IBL is.

Any strain can potentially BECOME an IBL over time if it is bred and stabilized for long enough, and all the instances of phenotypes that do not represent the desired strain traits are discarded and not used for breeding. This takes many generations of work to accomplish, but in the end, the result is that anyone can make their own seed crop from the beans they get.

Most strains on the market are F1 hybrids, or strains that may or may not be fully stable, but the seeds are being bred from only a very specific breeding pair of individual plants, and are predictable. Some breeders, such as Subcool, don't even wait long enough to assure little to no phenotypic variation among the generation being sold in seed form, and the resulting plants can be all over the place! Space Queen had a reputation for throwing the most outrageous assortment of phenos- not good if you wanted to run crops off from seed, but acceptable if you had intended to pick a favorite phenotype and save her as a mother.

Popular strains that are currently available from seed vendors that are true IBLs include Island Sweet Skunk, Power Plant, and Donkey Dick. The BOG's Bogglegum was so stable at the time of his retirement that it can very nearly be considered an IBL as well.

[melodious fellow]

[quote=stinkyattic]In Bred Line.

Basically, a close group of growers in a certain area passes the same bunch of seeds around for long enough that the strain drifts into something stable and perfectly adapted to the local climate.

/QUOTE]

That is really amazing. Nature is so amazing. Must be wonderful to have a group of local growers! You can just call me Melo if you want Stinky. :hippy:

I am finally high for the first time in a good month or so... :hippy:

Looking forward to your seeing your grow growing more, friend! :hippy:

[stinkyattic]

Melo- sounds good. Yeah, it's nice to have a couple people around to talk shop and compare notes locally. What a great feeling. I can't wait for my peeps to get to try the chocolate cardamom pot truffles I made last weekend! Drool time.

BudGrower- ahhhhh I can't wait to be able to lounge in a lawn chair outdoors at all. It seems so crazy to be doing all this with still a foot of snow on the ground and more falling almost daily... damn that groundhog, lol. I'm waiting for that moment!

[dylan]

Hey nice log Stinky. I just stumbled over here, and it was an enjoyable read. I think I'll be back to check out this forum more often.

About the IBL, that's pretty much what me and a few friends have been doing the past few years, but I didn't know there was a "technical term" for it.....and who said inbreeding was bad j/k

[ProGroWannabe]

Stinky how ya been? Been a while for me @ cannacom. Anyhow, I can't believe you found time to do a log. I'd comment on your grow, but it's just so hard to keep from saying something potentially PUN-ny with you growing Donkey Dick and "Purple Shit".......damnit...'did it anyway:p

[b0n3ZA]

Lovely looking grow stinky :)
Will be sure to watch this one!

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Stinky,

I have a coulple of questions for you.

When starting indoors for an outdoor grow what is you lighting schedule?

Also when do you plan on transfering the plants to outside? Cannot picture anytime before the end of April in VT.

[stinkyattic]

Wow thanks guys!

Dylan, when you go out one year to kill males on your seed patch, and discover that suddenly ALL your plants are identical with no phenotypic variation, you may pat yourselves on the back for stabilizing your line. And that's a very cool accomplishment.

PGW, it's real nice to see you again. I hear you've been in touch with a dear friend of mine lately, very cool cat with some real nice genetics.

JerryG, I keep all my veggin plants under 24h of light- EVERYTHING! Moms, clones, rooted cuttings, seedlings, the whole fam damily. There are 3 primary reasons for this:
-I don't have to worry about interrupting their 'sleep' if I want to work in the garden at 4am (don't laugh, it happens).
-It's easy to set the temperature with no timers or heaters or whatever; I just have everything constant and fiddle with it until it is good temps, then walk away!
-The plants have no doubt when it is flower time. Which brings me to your other question...

I'm planning to put everything outside August 1st after a solid 4 days of darkness, the first time in the plants' lives they have EVER seen the dark. This will jump-start their flower cycle and guarantee that they finish by first frost. Also, it minimizes the amount of time they are sitting outdoors vulnerable to deer and scoundrels. We seem to have a nice crop of weed prospectors these days; punk ass motherfuckers whose momma didn't teach them that if you want something, you need to EARN it... they spend the summer scouring the woods for ganja patches and come back just in time to rip them off- usually a week or 2 before the grower would harvest- so the quality is lower but hey, they didn't have to haul water or guano, now, did they? I generally distrust the source of any unripe outdoor I see coming through as product. Chances are, it was stolen. Grrr. Anyway the plants will stay small enough to hide, and by that time of the summer, ripping out noxious weeds is nearly permanent- they are all in flowering mode themselves by then, and don't really grow back that late in the year to choke out your little clones.

[chinacat443]

damn, thats deep.
i live in an area where neighbors and unwanted scoundrels arent very common. snas the deer and rabbits.
that said, as soon as they germ and i plant the lil babies, they go right into the ground with a super healthy mix of compost with regular outside soil and some sphagmum peat moss, maybe some guano. put a lil chicken wire around the bitches and forget about them till october. maybe once or twice a week ill go check on em and pull males when the time is right. sometimes i bring water. but thats it. i let mother nature do her thing.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Thanks Stinky!

I do the same with light cycles, only run 2. 1 at 24/0 the other 13/11, I like the extra hour of light

But I never even thought about how you avoid the theivens. Glad I asked.

[stinkyattic]

SEXUAL MATURITY!!! Oh yay.
So now, with side growth really taking off, and the first of the plants showing alternating nodes, it is time to 'CLONE FOR SEX'.

Here's some pics!
1- The girls before their haircuts
2- The girls lined up in order of vigor. What I've done is roughly arrange them from most pathetic to most brilliant.
3- A pair of BOG BlueMoonRocks who are along for the ride
4- The same pair of BMRs, showing topped vs. untopped growth patterns. The untopped one was a mistake; I meant to do them all at the same time but it's good to show anyway.
5- Now I get a bunch of tags together labelled 'DD 1- 11' that I will attach to plants with the '1' tag going on the lamest one and the '11' tag going on the most vigorous. This way, when I finally get them sexed, I will take the highest-number male and a couple of the highest-number females for my parent plants. It's fuzzy, but the little circle on each tag means that the plant has not yet been sexed, and when I do learn sex, I'll add the appropriate symbol.

[stinkyattic]

Shown is a plant that I consider ready to clone.
1- Getting the hormone ready. Dip-N-Grow is fungicidal, and even mixed in this nasty ass test tube it roXors
2- The new growth on a plant that has been topped. This is where we take the cuts.
3- The pair of new shoots, including a node, slit right down the middle to make 2 clones... you only run into this situation in a young plant that has only recently gone alternating, and then, only when you are taking the whole top for clones.
4- They quickly go sit in the test tube of hormone
5- Meanwhile, while they are soaking up the juice, you take your rapidrooter and plunge the xacto blade deep into the bottom of it. The hole they come from the factory with is way too big for cannabis, and to avoid direct air contact with the cut part of the stem, and good contact with the medium, a simple slit works better. Then, you can use the RR free-standing with good air flow around the base, meaning faster rooting with less chance of rot.

[stinkyattic]

1- The clone as it looks in the RR
2- The clone with the leaves cut down to less than 1" each to minimize water loss through transpiration
3- What's left of the donor
4- Closeup of cut site showing hollow stem- this is a place for disease to enter and we must stabilize it somehow
5- Solution, cut a bit of a plastic toothpick to make a plug

[stinkyattic]

1- Moms after their haircuts- a couple I considered to be too small to clone, but they are the low-number ones anyway and will be put into flower without backing up a mother to save since I don't consider them good examples of the strain.
2- The clones in their tray. They will get misted with wilt-pruf and a wet dome will go over them. That's it. The next time I will touch them is 3 days later when I will mist them with SMC leaf wash (to avoid fungal infection) and re-wet the inside of the dome
3- Stuff that's rooting in the corner lol.. magical stacking prop domes!! There's enough ambient light in the room to let them do their thing, even stacked, as long as I pull them away from the wall.

[dylan]

Humm, very intresting toothpick solution. I'll have to try that one of these days. Along with the cuting of the leaves down to 1".

Your always so helpfull.

[stinkyattic]

Thank you! :D
The reason the leaves get chopped is to reduce both surface area from which they can lose moisture, reduce rate of photosynthesis to slow down the whole metabolism while they go through the shock of being cut from the plant (the way patients with very severe injuries or illnesses are sometimes put into a chemically-induced coma to increase their chance of survival), and reduce weight dragging them down- they won't actually wilt nearly as easily.

[KL4D4]

In post #49... I was wondering exactly what that lighter says upon it

Do you (word I can't make out) want a pink lighter

[stinkyattic]

"Think about it... do you REALLY want a pink lighter?"
This to prevent lighter theft. It backfires though... I recently found the other one that said "It's for smokin' not for stealin' " between the cushions on my buddy's sofa... and I KNOW I didn't leave it there! lol

[snowdawg]

looking good...

:noel:

[ProGroWannabe]

Nice documentation on this one stinky, as usual.

"You must spread reputation around before giving it to stinkyattic again."

[stinkyattic]

"It takes brains and balls to succeed in life. Some have way too much of one and not enough of the other!"

You know, it's a funny thing. Some of my friends have accused me of this... lol

Hey well as for the documentation, that's the main point. I'm glad SOMEONE appreciates it...

On the record:

I'm a little miffed at one of the people who gave 'thumbs down' on this thread after all the work I'm putting into making it clear and educational... give me a bad 'review', at least have the courage to say it to my FACE. This site is about learning and criticism should be CONSTRUCTIVE, not negativity for its own sake. I'm sorry that the relationships forum doesn't exist any more... but there's gotta be a better home for ya than my damn grow log.

Anyway, back to the show. Here's the new Vermont kids in their new homes. You can't see them yet... they haven't emerged in this pic, but it shows my seedling starting setup. The soil appears very wet because I've just given the seedling mix a heavy watering before letting it rest an hour or so, poking holes, and placing the seeds in it. That mix is appropriate for seedlings, as it is very fine textured and free of added fertilizer.

[michaelpeg]

hey stinky when putting your clones outside are you gonna leave them in pots or put them directly into the ground and are you gonna use the promix outside too and if so, how much bat guano do you think you will add? this is gonna be a very informaive grow log for me as i will try to copy you as best i can. lol

[stinkyattic]

I'm actually still thinking about some of those things myself.

The plan right now is to use compost and vermiculite dug into the ground where I intend to plant, and add a bit of bat guano while I'm at it. I'll put the plants directly in the ground, and if they are in jiffy pots, I'll get the pots good and wet and poke them full of holes first.

I PROMISE there are better outdoor growers to copy than myself; this is my first serious outdoor attempt... lol! I know how to grow good hot peppers though... pot can't be TOO hard! :D

[SnSstealth]

oooh yeah...put em in the ground, let the girls go!!!!!!heh
WT

[headydankness]

wow haha I'm glad to see that somewhere near me there is some beautiful plants growing:)

[stinkyattic]

wow haha I'm glad to see that somewhere near me there is some beautiful plants growing
You DO realize that New England produces among the best weed in the world, right? We've been spoiled rotten since the time of the early Skunks... then the Chems came along... May I venture to say that NE growers and breeders have always represented us VERY well? :D

[headydankness]

Yes i do, and I'm pleased by it each time i smoke. But i just wanted to say that it gives me a nice feeling inside to see the people working hard to grow marijuana in VT.

[chrisdl805]

Hey stinky nice grow log! I was curious why you chose not to use Advanced nutrients when you stated that it was designed speciffically to be used with promix? I had never heard that before but it makes sense because that's what a friend of mines grows with, promix and sunshine #4 also. And it's some real good shit, both indoor and outdoor. Anyways keep up the good work:D

[stinkyattic]

Good question on the AN; I had a CRAPLOAD of old fertilizer (Cornucopia, PowerPlant/PowerFlower, and others) laying around, and since I'm not pressed for time here (it IS only March after all), I'm not really going after that super aggressive feeding schedule on these plants...

That being said, I've got other stuff going, and as soon as I can afford to buy the entire 'kit'- which I can get for around $400- I'll be making the switch. I just don't have the cash right now to spend much on my own needs, let alone plant food, lol! Gotta love the price of heating fuel... Thanks, Cheney Cartel! :thumbsup: Assholes.
Give me a month and see where I'm at after my tax return comes back. By then I will be ready to do a proper single-strain SOG in ProMix and actually be able to use the AN line the way it was intended.

[Mr. Clandestine]

Great log so far, Stinky! The two posts detailing your cloning methods should be a sticky all to themselves. Dunno why anyone would give you a thumbs-down on this thread, though. I threw in a thumbs-up a few days ago, and I'm sure there'll be plenty more to come.

Looking forward to seeing how things go for ya outdoors! :jointsmile:

[sublime27]

Looks great stinky!

Thanks for putting your posts in such detail, very easy to understand. :thumbsup:

[redeyed]

Looking good Stinky, glad to see you are going to do an outdoor grow. Did you ever build the green house you wanted to build last spring, and if so will you be useing it at all for this little venture?:weedpoke:

[stinkyattic]

when do you plan on transplant these plants outside?


I'm planning to put everything outside August 1st after a solid 4 days of darkness, the first time in the plants' lives they have EVER seen the dark. This will jump-start their flower cycle and guarantee that they finish by first frost. Also, it minimizes the amount of time they are sitting outdoors vulnerable to deer and scoundrels..:thumbsup:
I might toss a couple out early if I find a great spot, or give some to a friend.


Did you ever build the green house you wanted to build last spring, and if so will you be useing it at all for this little venture?:weedpoke:
Nope, ran out of time last year but this year I've got a more reasonable schedule and will be driving recieving poles for a hoophouse as soon as the ground is soft enough to take them. Did you ever do yours? I remember talking about it. I am personally uncomfortable with the idea of growing in a greenhouse for security reasons but we'll see how I feel about it later in the summer. Nice to see you stop by again!

[smok3y]

Lookin good dude.. Will be watchin this one out as your previous logs have been good and educational (sp).. Good luck with the rest of your grow..:thumbsup::jointsmile:

[jangel]

Hi Stinky. Just to let you know I am a NOOB up in Canada and you are my new Idol! NO WAY should you get a thumbs down. Just been lurking for a while but have my own log here: (hope it is okay to post a link, please remove if it is not) Vancouver Seed Bank :: Cannabis Cultivation, Indoors & Outdoors :: New to growing inside, now VERY confused!!! (http://www.vancouverseedbank.ca/forums/read.php?3,796,page=2)

Just wanted to tell you I have learned so very much from following your logs. I have done the gange for over 35 yrs and have grown outside for 2, now following your inspiration for inside. Baby steps now, but will follow this closely. AND A BIG BIG THUMBS UP TO THE STINKSTER! Now will try and do that! Keep the faith, fair lady! From a fellow MJ lady, up in the snow country! LOL!

Life,
j-angel

:thumbsup:

Okay, told you I was a NOOB! Here we go! LOL!
Life,
j-angel

[xxxhazexxx]

hello stinky i hav'nt been around much,anyway loverly grow girl i like what i see.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

All right!
J-angel, welcome to the boards! It's always good to see the ladies repping hard

I don't have any fresh photos to share since nothing much has happened in the last week except a 7 hour power outage (wind storm) and several shorter ones (who the fuck knows), that kicked my timers back over 12 hours (yes yes I know time to go digi) and a flood that sent a major feeder brook of the local stream right through my flower room, living room, and kicthen. I didn't notice the 2 inches of water on the LR floor until I heard some strange splashing noises and realized the dogs were wrestling IN THE WATER in the other room... then walked around back, opened the woodshed door, and let a WATERFALL pour over the sill and into the house... not much going on really...

Trust me, if I'd had my camera battery charged there would be PLENTY to see.

As it is, I can show you a pic of a pile of wet towels and socks... anyone interested? :D

[michaelpeg]

im interested in the towels and socks...

[ebbdro]

hey bro whats up i like the work u can do and nice pic of a popcorn nugget but i am having some dro problems and i need a little bit of info bub write me back thanks ebbdro

does anybody kno alot about dro

[ProGroWannabe]

Sorry to hear about the flood Stink. That really, really sucks. I wish ya the best in recovery from it.

[stinkyattic]

hey bro whats up i like the work u can do and nice pic of a popcorn nugget but i am having some dro problems and i need a little bit of info bub write me back thanks ebbdro
Hey buddy, thanks for insulting my product :thumbsup:
Aaaaand.....

does anybody kno alot about dro

Threadjacking as it applies to grow logs (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/150447-threadjacking-applies-grow-logs.html)

[stinkyattic]

As for the rest...
Towels and socks are already on the way to the laundromat- I plan to wash them in the machine right under the sign that says "No Horse Blankets"... lol the amount of dog hair coming off them... I actually feel a little guilty lol.

The deepest indoor water was 2" on top of the carpet and carpet pad, in a 12x20 living room... :eek: But the deepest OUTDOOR was in the attached woodshed, which is sunk into a hillside and built of dry-stone, was enough that firewood was floating around.

Okay update on the plants.

The clones are still rooting, and there is no wilt. I misted the dome once at clipping, once on Wednesday, and once on Saturday. They appear perky and that they will all make it.

Meanwhile, I went through and re-evaluated the numbered mothers. A couple moved up in the standings over the week since clones were taken (= second pinch equivalent). Any that appeared better or worse than their current number indicated got a quick writeup on the back of the number tag of why I thought they were better or worse. This will help choose my final mother, and also choose which plant in the seed patch I will save seeds from.

In one week I will sex the plants. When all the clones have rooted and proven that they will survive outside the dome, I will put the mothers into flower.

Why flower the mothers, not the clones?
This is because I don't really have the space to keep large plants, and since my outdoor date is still months away, I'd prefer to just flower off the moms and pick a 'keeper' male right away, and maybe even do an indoor line seed run with the best indoor performers. Then I'll save the best male and females in smaller form in quart pots until it's time to start making spring clones.

[Weedhound]

Flood? Sounds bad.....hope everything is ok.

You;d need about 75 short haired dogs like yours to get noticed in the horse blanket game....:D Long haired dogs.....maybe 35-ish. ;)

[texas grass]

i love the log stinky. very informative.

i hope you got all your problems fixed and dried

[stinkyattic]

lol! My dog sheds outrageously and my neighbor has a Shepherd who is in the middle of his spring shed... yeeps.

As for the flooding, it's just going to be a matter of drying the floors at this point... I keep all my ballasts up on milk crates, and hang outlets on extension cords or whatever up at least a foot off the floor by cup-hooks screwed into the wall.

And now we see why!

Edit: Ebbdro, I notice you haven't even started a thread in hydro yet... Go start a thread... then people will help you...

[Weedhound]

jeez...thank god you play the game smart Stinky. Good work having your stuff off the floor. :thumbsup:

[SnSstealth]

wow........good save stinky, thats some crazy shit....
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[redeyed]

Nope, ran out of time last year but this year I've got a more reasonable schedule and will be driving recieving poles for a hoophouse as soon as the ground is soft enough to take them. Did you ever do yours? I remember talking about it. I am personally uncomfortable with the idea of growing in a greenhouse for security reasons but we'll see how I feel about it later in the summer. Nice to see you stop by again![/quote]

I did but it did'nt work out the way I planned and actually did more damage than good in the long run. This is a good thread! I would definately throw a few outside through out the summer just to see at what point it helps or hurts. Anyways, keep up the good work!

Oh, and really sorry to hear about your flood. And the same shit happened here with the wind. New England sux!

[stinkyattic]

Nothing but carpets was damaged. Yeah, leaf blowers are good for that but I'm just going to dry out the carpeting with the fans I've already got and plan for future wet-weather events.

[hatch]

Miss Stinky, Hey What's UP?!!!!....... Sorry to hear about the flood!!!! Glad You & Alll are OK!!!! I know it's bad now, But You will get back what was lost, ( Your Good Deed's & and all You do for other's ), will come back to You in time.
Have we addressed the problem outside yet?? Hope this was a 1-time thing and doesn't return!!!
I would Love to be there to help!!!.... Maybe just some support will Help!!!....Good Luck.....Later

[stinkyattic]

Judging by pre-existing water damage in other parts of the structure, this is a seasonal thing which I feel should have been disclosed to me before I moved in, and I have someone coming up this evening to address it. I expect to install 2 tiers of curtain drains, one outdoors, up-grade from the structure, to intercept overland flow from seasonal high water coming off the nearby river, and another in the below-grade attached woodshed that cuts off flow out of the drystone foundation before it may enter the living area. I'm also going to pick up some hay bales and take care of the driveway washing out at the same time, lol... what a fucking hassle... good thing us Yankees are a hardy bunch and can handle a little icy cold river water in our living rooms! :D I just realized why LL Bean makes those duck-shoes- you know, the low cut version of their Maine hunting boot? Those aren't meant for outdoors like everyone thinks... THEY'RE SLIPPERS! hahahaha
I could certainly use some 'Southern engineerin' though, lol!
Gimme a sec and I'll get back to the plants, already!

[Shovelhandle]

I know a little about flooding...it sucks.
I own one of those mini wet vacs (Dayton) It's great for sucking water out of carpet and stuff.

Right now we've got no sewerage. The septic line to the tank got crushed underground somehow. I've got workers in and out of my cellar, which is filled with buckets and lights and stuff "for starting the garden vegetables". Also they have to walk through the utility room, which has my grow in the corner. So, I had to turn off the lights for now so they won't notice (there's cardboard w/mylar so you can't really see anything).

Good luck to us up here in wonderful New England! <G>

Sho

[OahuLocal]

Waitin for An Update......:thumbsup::D:smokin:

[hatch]

Miss Stinky, Hey Baby, Keep Your Head UP!!!... Can you show me some pic's of the scene. The Drain are fore sure where I would start. Then maybe some terracing to help dirrect the flow!! In Your road tell them to get a good crow in the center, & if water flood's over?, Put a Tin Horn under the road.

Sorry you are having these problem's, & yes you should have got the head's up from the Realter, Put we know there just after the $$$$.
Do I need to Book a Flight?!!!... Yes Us Yank's do stick together!!!!.Later

[stinkyattic]

I've decided not to post up pics of the water source [outdoors] for security reasons but there is going to be a curtain drain installed upgrade as soon as the ground thaws.

Meanwhile back at the farm... we have some serious action!

The VT purple shit is taking off, and I kinda fucked up and let it get too close to the T5s and shrivelled up a couple tops, but we'll live. Shown is a pic of 1 week after seedling emergence, and another 2 weeks after emergence.

Next is a BOG BlueMoonRocks showing characteristic ruffling of its unusually thick leathery leaves.

Then some of my mite control 'bots. I gotta really keep an eye on them; they get lazy and wander off into other parts of the house. Slackers.

[Weedhound]

How close is too close for a flouro?

[stinkyattic]

Pic 1 is how they look 2 weeks after being cut back for clones. All are very healthy and ready to flower. Note in the front RH corner the BMR plant with the ruffly leaves- see why it's called 'blue'? What a beauty!

Pic 2 is the clones having been rooting for 2 weeks. They have been misted ~3-4 times during the last 2 weeks, show no signs of wilt or rot, and are starting to use of stored nutrients in their lower leaves, so I am going to go ahead and say they are rooted and ready to transplant. Note the markings on the leaves, and the new growth starting- I trimmed ALL leaf tips except the blade I needed to write on, so any leaves with un-trimmed tips I know to be new growth. Oooh sneaky tricks! :D

[stinkyattic]

How close is too close for a flouro?Depends on the type of lamp.
T12 tubes don't burn a correctly-watered plant even with extended contact.
T5s will, and so will CFLs. I use a New Wave T5 for my seedlings and have to raise it when they get too frisky.

[Weedhound]

You only misted 4-5 times? How do you get AWAY with that? Do you water your RRs?

[stinkyattic]

Nope, just leave them at the moisture they come out of the bag, be sure the light is dim, use wilt-pruf, mist the dome heavily the day the cuts are taken, open it 2x a week, and walk away, lol.

[Weedhound]

Do you use a seedling mat or anything to keep heat on them? What temps DO you have your clones in?

[stinkyattic]

No heat mat. The room is a fairly stable 70-80'F. I only use a heat mat if the ambient temps dip below 70'F- atm, they are all in use under my veggie starts, which live in a barely-heated sunroom that stays about 50-60'F.

I thought I'd throw in some eye candy just for fun because there won't be much to show in the way of buds for a few weeks yet. I intend to do the big flip on my DDs this weekend, but here's some to keep ya happy in the meantime!

1- A 6 week flowering pure Afghan, 'Afghani Dream', that I believe to be the pre-2000 version of the line. I love her! *smooch
2- Some month-flowering plants of all varieties. They live under a HPS k in a room that is built for a total of 2k, but I only plugged in the second lamp for the first time this morning because it just didn't make any sense to run the 2nd light over empty panda, lol!
3- Now the little guys in the trays are rooted and healthy enough to take the heat, so the light got put online this morning.
4- My ballast is up on a milk crate out of reach of high water. The other ballast is on a totally different breaker but it, too, is on a milk crate.
5- My timers are set staggered to as not to both switch on at the same time and possibly overload any circuits- this IS redundant I know because they aren't even on the same freakin' breaker, but I've got redundancy on the brain these days lol!

[Weedhound]

Very nice bathrooom.....:D

Damn you've got some LOVELY stuff starting there.....PARTY AT STINKY'S!!

[Mr. Clandestine]

Then some of my mite control 'bots. I gotta really keep an eye on them; they get lazy and wander off into other parts of the house. Slackers.

Haha, when I vegged in my crawlspace my assassins would get bored and do the same thing. They always managed to make their way to the house ventilation ducts, and would surprise us in the middle of the night by crawling up our legs! I didn't mind, but the missus would completely lose her mind every time. Then, when she realized what it was, she'd pick up the little bugger and play with it. I found a cool picture of a ladybug eating a thrip, hopefully the attachment will work.

Log's looking good, and thank you for the eye candy! :jointsmile:

...one question, and sorry if it's already been addressed, but are you using Rapid Rooters for your clones? If so, do those things mess with pH as bad as rockwool or Jiffy cubes might?

[stinkyattic]

Yup I'm using rapidrooters because I looooove them so much. And nope, I've never had the slightest inkling of a pH problem. They are composed of composted tree bark, some sort of binder -why do I have the feeling it's a rubber of some sort- maybe the same shit as WiltPruf? I dunno... gotta stop smoking so much; I remember the grow shop guy telling me the actual composition. I have no idea where he finds this shit out. I mean, it's all proprietary! Plus it's inoculated with beneficials to help reduce risk of mold. The compost component keeps pH very stable with no adjustment prior to use. Since switching to RRs my success rate has approached 100%, with any deaths happening during the vulnerable hardening-off period.

Lol @ your wife playing with the ladybugs! That's funny. They ARE cute. I want to get a family portrait this weekend that shows the incredible range of colors and markings among my ladybug population. They go from dull orange to vibrant red and the spotting is anywhere from completely absent to a dozen dots!

[Weedhound]

Perhaps rubber occurs to you because you can bounce them around like a superball.....:D

[Mr. Clandestine]

Thanks for your feedback on the RR's, I'm probably going to pick up a pack of them pretty soon. I've heard good things about them, and with confirmation from you, now I know they're true! Take care. :jointsmile:

[OahuLocal]

When are you going to transplant those seedlings? Wont the roots strangle each other?:(

How many plants are there all together?

Nice Set up

[SnSstealth]

i love the RR too...works fine for me...and the gel...lol...that pic is cool as hell....used to love seeing a ladybug on a nug...good juju...everythings lookin great stinky;)
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[Twentyinches]

Stinky, this is a wonderful thread I have been following, the pix and instructions with cloning and all that are awesome, the pix help a lot. It's always been something I've wanted to try. Well done :thumbsup:

btw I feel like I've been in your house seein all the rooms :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

When are you going to transplant those seedlings? Wont the roots strangle each other?
How many plants are there all together?

Look back a few posts, or look closely, and you will see those are nursery starting flat inserts with indvidual cells. They will be transplanted this weekend.
I never post my plant count. I assure you it is enough to keep me well-stocked with tasty bud :jointsmile:

Thanks for the ups everyone!

[redeyed]

Stinky, when I lable my plant's I lable the pot which as you know you can't really do when your trying to root clones or start seeds, mostly because I use some kind of rooting device (I'm not to picky about which one because they all work if used right). My question is what do you use to mark the leaves? It looks like a Sharpie but they are toxic. If it is a Sharpie haqve you ever had any complications and if it ain't what kind of marker is it. That's a great idea, I've never seen anyone do this before on any kind of plant but it sure would hlep me out a lot. :cool:

[stinkyattic]

It's a Sharpie! :D
Those things are good for everything... I can slap my gangsta tag on the leaves of my plants so all my homies know where my turf is at.
G.
I don't have issues with them, and can say confidently that they do not appear to be toxic to plants, used in that manner, as I've recently HARVESTED a couple from-clone plants that still bore a healthy leaf with the original clone label still visible in black ink!

[SnSstealth]

damn good idea;)
WT

[Weedhound]

The fact that her toenails grew out black recently too has NOTHING to do with it. :D

[stinkyattic]

The fact that her toenails grew out black recently too has NOTHING to do with it. ???
That's too much for my little brain to process right now.

[Weedhound]

Too technical eh? :D....Smoke black sharpie.....grow out black toenails. (you know....like ARSENIC!!! )

Stinkster....have a q for you in my log.....could you please read when you have a chance?

Thanks.. :)

[redeyed]

That's good to know because those little paper tags are a real pain in the ass. Thanx for the idea!
:thumbsup:

[ProGroWannabe]

... I can slap my gangsta tag on the leaves of my plants so all my homies know where my turf is at.
G.

LMFAO....That's some funny shit right there, I don't care who ya are.;)

[stinkyattic]

I potted up the DD clones this weekend. They all showed healthy roots after 2 weeks (pic. 1). No deaths or significant leaf dieoff.

The family is shown in pic 2.

The culls are shown in pic 3- these were the plants that I did not consider worth cloning, and they went into flower on Sunday.

Pic 4 is a healthy DD that has 3 strong tops and is my current favorite for a prospective breeder of either sex.

Pic 5 is a sexy, healthy BlueMoonRocks.

[SnSstealth]

lookin lovely as usual;)....pic 4 has 4 nice tops doesnt it?...or is that 4th kinda low and light?...looks like it will form well though...picked my 3 breeders last night;) rest are my culls, but the will harvest decent....good luck!!
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

The 4th top isn't awesome but I should be getting a lot of very nice clones off her should she present female.

Here's a funny pic of a Daddy's Girl that rooted from the PETIOLE!!! lol gotta love dip-n-grow, I swear I could plant a set of Lincoln Logs and grow me a nice cabin!

[SnSstealth]

holy shit!....never seen that before...
WT

[zebulon]

Awesome plants Stinky, real nice...:thumbsup:
How big holes you plan to dig for the outdoor plants??? and do you gonna use some medium to loosen up the soil??

[stinkyattic]

Since I plan to put the outdoor crop out Aug 1st, I don't expect giant plants, so I won't be digging giant pits for them to live in.
Instead, I'll just stick them in soil prepared as for a garden, hoed up nice n loose, but with some added bat shit.
That doesn't sound right. :wtf:

[Orzy]

Hoe it up all nice and loose like. mmmmm.

[Weedhound]

HOES!! AND DONKEY DICKS!! This thread is getting worse and worse!! :eek:


Pssss....nice plants!! :thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

HOES!! AND DONKEY DICKS!! This thread is getting worse and worse!!
I'm about to start charging 20 pesos per view... :wtf:

Thanks on the plants.

Disclaimer!!!
***No hoes or donkeys were harmed in the making of this grow log!!!***

[DLONES]

Hey what ever you feel is good and you def have knowlege but why so soon if August is 5 months away. I understand the five day light shut down but were is the five month in door start from? just grab a few 1000 HPS and flower them bad boys... LOL Or like my buddy with the pit some procyon 100's (hope that works good by the way). All kidding around though all intensions for those will be outdoors in August they will be huge... What ever your plans are I see you are more then capable go New England.... Getting my Sensi SOur Dees going now they are sproutting everyday... I will have some pics in a few days.... Good Job and post

[Mr. Clandestine]

lol gotta love dip-n-grow, I swear I could plant a set of Lincoln Logs and grow me a nice cabin!

:S2:


HOES!! AND DONKEY DICKS!! This thread is getting worse and worse!! :eek:

:S2:

Correction, this thread is getting funnier and funnier!

Looking good, Stinky. Using the Dip-n-Grow, about how long does it take for the roots to poke out of the RRs? I'm lucky to see roots after 7-10 days using my old crappy Jiffy pellets and crappy rooting powder... and they definitely don't pop out looking all content and healthy, like yours. I think it's definitely time for me to update my cloning methods...

[HerbalConfusion]

I potted up the DD clones this weekend. They all showed healthy roots after 2 weeks (pic. 1). No deaths or significant leaf dieoff.

The family is shown in pic 2.

The culls are shown in pic 3- these were the plants that I did not consider worth cloning, and they went into flower on Sunday.

Pic 4 is a healthy DD that has 3 strong tops and is my current favorite for a prospective breeder of either sex.

Pic 5 is a sexy, healthy BlueMoonRocks.

I love the first pic i always think micro roots are so cool. Also thanks for the response about the ratings the negative rating on your thread was what sparked my interest. As i looked it was on almost everyone anyway its good your getting things started indoors cause looks like winters not ending anytime soon.

[stinkyattic]

why so soon if August is 5 months away.
...
just grab a few 1000 HPS and flower them bad boys...
:D I DO have access to a 2400 watt flower room if the bug should bite me... in fact, the culls are already in it! Eye candy to follow... lol
The reason I started so EARLY is that someone asked me to do a seed run for them so they could start on TIME in late April or early May. Part of this log will be selecting parents and doing a cross.

[marijuanavillebilly]

Don't listen to anything I say. I don't claim to know the first thing about growing anything; hell, I can't even make a Chia pet sprout.

thank bob all mighty, im not the only one!

but your donkey's dick looks good! :wtf:

and this is my 100th contirbution to the site, i figured i would post it on your thread. :thumbsup:

[KayaKing]

Awesome grow log Stinky - couldn't have grown my clones without all these gr8 threads!
Keep 'em coming...

[SnSstealth]

lookin good queen stinky;)....why are those same few people putting negative ratings on all our threads?....we got haters even amongst stoners huh........sad....
WT

[stinkyattic]

...why are those same few people putting negative ratings on all our threads?....we got haters even amongst stoners huh........sad....That's a banned member who apparently is still miffed at me for banning him. Time to get OFF the computer, put down the adult beverages, and get a life. Seeya, Slip... nice try. :thumbsup:

Okay. The plants!
Under 24/0 light schedule, I GOT SEX!!!! So far two confirmed females, plants #8 and 10, which were actually 2 of my top picks for performance already. Yay. I chopped what was left of the from-seed mothers of those two down to just the lower growth, taking anything that looked big and strong enough for clones.
My next job is to get as many clones as possible going right away, so I'm going to keep ALL of these in veg and just keep hacking them up until I reach my goal.

[s12fever]

Hey stinkyattic I know this is probably pretty funny but what is an IBL?

I've been sent some seeds and theyre apparently 'pure IBL's' but i have no idea what that means :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Start at this post and read the next few- it's all explained in detail.
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/149439-donkey-dick-vt-local-ibl-indoor-outdoor-2008-a-2.html#post1816661

[s12fever]

Thanks alot for that mate, really informative stuff there:rastasmoke:

[Mr. Clandestine]

Awesome, Stinky! Nice to hear your first two picks turned out to be ladies! :thumbsup:

...half of the time, my best growers end up being dudes. :(

[Weedhound]

Whats with the sexing at 24/0? Could you teach me this please?

[stinkyattic]

Nothing really to teach- some strains will do it; some won't. This was only a partial surprise to me actually.
The Donkey Dick I suspect shows sex under 24/0 because of its Mighty Mite heritage, not the skunk side of its background. Mighty Mite is a strain that is kinda on the edge of what can be considered an autoflower. She will flower with less than 18 hours of light, instead of less than 12.

[StickyfingahZ]

Sorry to intrude on this thread,but I see it alot when I browse through the new posts,and,Although the word Donkey Dick doesnt offend me,I find it a funny name for a plant,Does anyone know the origin of this?or how it came to be named "Donkey Dick"?

[Shovelhandle]

Makes me laugh too. Reminds me of the Mexican folk dancing tent at the fiasta. ;)

Shvl

[Mr. Clandestine]

I've heard of people refer to the fat colas on random plants as Donkey Dicks before, but until I got wind of Stinky's grow log, I never knew it was actually a strain. Now there just needs to be a strain called 'Donkey Dick Elephantiasis', and I'll be sold.

[stinkyattic]

Yup, it's the size of a cola that gets compared to the asinine phallus :wtf:

Now say this in your best Cheech Marin voice:
"Eeeeeeh maaan! Looka that donkee deeck!"

[Weedhound]

I love the way Stinky says stuff....:D

[Mr. Clandestine]

Now say this in your best Cheech Marin voice:
"Eeeeeeh maaan! Looka that donkee deeck!"

I'm a bigger fan of Tommy and his donkey dick joints:

"You call that a joint? That's no joint... now THIS is a joint, man."

[StickyfingahZ]

Ahhhhh,I see!
Still,I wonder who was the one to name it that.To look at something and name it that.
Thanks guys for explaining it to me.I appreciate the info.
Although I would like to sample this Donkey Dick Weed,I would feel weird telling someone,"I wish I could get my hands on some Donkey Dick."

[ProGroWannabe]

Ahhh the puns in this grow abound, Stinky.

Speaking of which, are you trying to make any of those Donkey Dicks stretch so you can increase their yields? I've heard just rubbing them won't work. hehe

The pun was fully intended, but on a serious note, I usually try to get my indica doms. to stretch a little. How bout you?

[SnSstealth]

Okay. The plants!
Under 24/0 light schedule, I GOT SEX!!!! So far two confirmed females, plants #8 and 10, which were actually 2 of my top picks for performance already. Yay. I chopped what was left of the from-seed mothers of those two down to just the lower growth, taking anything that looked big and strong enough for clones.
My next job is to get as many clones as possible going right away, so I'm going to keep ALL of these in veg and just keep hacking them up until I reach my goal.

nice work stinky:chainsaw: nice opportunity you have there to create some great plants. I cant wait to have the freedom (read: no need to work) to work the strain through breeding and be able to pick the best of the best to grow.

stinky, we are all truly indebted to you:lovestruck:

db:smokin:

[ProGroWannabe]

Oooooooooook then, and back to the log....Stink, do try to purposely let any of your indicas stretch to make em yield a bit better?

[stinkyattic]

I get to delete posts because I am a moderator and it is my job to remove any discussion of other illegal activities besides growing and smoking of cannabis from this site. That includes smuggling, dealing, and selling or trading seeds on US soil, which you are on. I see that you are still on about looking for seed trades with Opie, which will get you banned if it keeps up, and I guess haven't read the forum rules yet....
Now please go read around and see that there is an entire forum section for feedback that doesn't happen to be MY GROW LOG.

All this crap is going to disappear shortly and I'm not exactly happy about your tirade. Stop calling me 'New England'.

Back to the plants again.
No more have shown sex yet, including the ones in flower. I'm getting excited actually- If the semi- autoflower trait which would have come from Mighty Mite is only appearing in a few individuals, it's making me think that there's still some selection to be done to shorten flower time.

Nothing much has happened except one power outage, lol. Yesterday I made 2 pounds of cannachocolate truffles, and another pound of ganache centers for the next batch. I also took down some White Rhino x Yeag's MTF yesterday, and it's the first chop since I started running Stacker/PurpleMaxx/Snowstorm/Whatever they're calling it this week, and all I can say is DIZZAM!!! Two thumbs up to the frosty shit. It makes the White strain look truly amazingly WHITE, and the other stuff is frostier in appearance than before as well.

Other grow reports coming in from the stuff kicking around here... Daddy's Girl is, despite early grumblings about yield, positively the most glorious smelling herb that anyone has stuck his nose in around here in quite some time. Testers are reporting though that it MUST be run as a SCROG or staked to prevent its heavy terminal buds from flopping over on the long flexible branches. Reap, ya did good... ;)

All right let's see... Indi-dom stretch... yup. There are a couple strains I run that simply CANNOT be flowered from a rooted clone. The BOG SourBubble BX3 is one of them. It doesn't stretch at ALL, and as a result yields these little short dense gnarly buds right down at the soil line, and while they are spectacular product, the yield is small and they always get covered with bits of perlite from being too low to the ground. So that's one that needs a good stretch under flouros for a while before flowering. It depends on strain and getting it right the first time I run something... lol... that's cause for celebration... IF it ever happens hee hee .. someday :jointsmile:

[SnSstealth]

mmmmm!......cannatruffles!!! you got some recipes floating around here stinky?....Im tired of brownies, cookies, and other baked goods. would LOVE that truffle recipe:eat:
:smokebong:

whiskeytango

p.s. do you know daddys girls parentage? kush line? diesel? small yeild and glorious scent are common traits for that family...I am jealous!!!:jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/150011-chocolate-truffle-tutorial-pics.html
Mmm! Truffles!
If you already have a favorite chocolate ganache recipe, use it. You can find a ganache recipe in pretty much any complete cookbook and should familiarize yourself with the theory of ganaches in general so you don't have trouble. The cream/ chocolate ratio determines the density after cooling.

DG is Cinderella99 x (NL x G13) by IR Seeds. The yield isn't actually low; it's moderate- enough to consider running commercially actually. The trimming is EASY, buds have the braided or bubbly look, and she's hardy. Scent after cure is pineapple/gin and the scent whilst growing is grapefruit.

[Weedhound]

GIN???

[stinkyattic]

Really. The exhale/aftertaste actually is like a glass of gin-n-juice but pineapple, not orange. lol! And in a good way; I'm not usually partial to juniper flavor, with the exception of juniper berries in rabbit stew.

[Weedhound]

RABBIT STEW!! :eek: I feel faint....

What kind of cannabis is a good post rabbit-stew smoke in your opinion?

[stinkyattic]

Um... Smoke BEFORE stew...
As for a 'pairing', I'm the LAST one to ask! To me, 'wine and cheese' can be anything from a nice Pinot Noir and some farmhouse cheddar, to a handle of Carlo Rossi and a big bag of Cheez Curls. So anything goes, lol. Smoke it if ya got it. Something strongly flavored, dark, and spicy would go well with game, and an Indi-dom to stick ya to the sofa long enough to digest it... Black Indica, Matanuska Thunderfuck... mmm

I hope you all understand I'm kidding- I'm totally NOT a pretentious asshole/potsnob.

[Weedhound]

Just about rabbit stew and cheese curls...( and NOT those generic cheese curls either...:D)

[SnSstealth]

LOL!!! you chicks are funny....lol and MTF is serious shit;)

[Mr. Clandestine]

LOL!!! you chicks are funny....lol and MTF is serious shit;)

They are funny! I thought they were sisters when I first arrived here, judging from the way they would talk to each other. And, man, I've always wanted to try some MTF, but isn't the actual line only available in clones? And in Alaska? I've never bought the off-shoot MTF beans from any seed companies, because I've always heard they are nothing close to the original strain.

Stinky - Just out of curiosity, how exactly does a strain become semi-autoflowering? I always thought either it is, or it isn't... never knew there was an in-between! :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Alaskans- 'The' MTF is/was clone-only but it's been passed around like a second-string cheerleader all over Alaska and has several local/regional seed lines that can be considered authentic. There's a bunch of info on it here if you hunt enough. It should have a creeper/long lasting stone, be effective against pain, smell like wild grapes and/or chocolate (it's a complex scent and lovely), and grow very well under lights. Other observed traits are purple striping on calyxes and partial albinism in some individuals. I've never bought the seed companies' supposed MTF beans either for that reason, but if you know any old hippies in Alaska, what they consider 'bagseed' can be pretty damn good shit. lol. There was an autoflower trait in some MTF back in the day but I don't know anything about its origins or why it isn't seen these days.

I am not an autoflower expert by any stretch. What you see in the Mighty Mite line is the trait of flowering under an 18/6 photoperiod rather than 12/12, so plants finish outdoors in early September, making them suitable for growth very far north where frost may hit by the end of the month, and snowstorms in October are not rare.

[SnSstealth]

dead on the MTF....she said it all...lol

[Mr. Clandestine]

Thanks, Stinky, for the background info. :thumbsup:

I actually DO know a hippie who was born and raised near Juneau, and moved right down the street from me a couple of years ago. He's a great guy, and LOVES recanting stories of his homegrown... but he can be a little loopy at times, and I've heard the same stories over & over again. Of course, I never say anything, he's one of those people that you'll allow to do that just because he's such a trip to hang around. It's funny, he'll sit around his house in the wintertime here, either with windows open or a/c running, wearing a pair of shorts and nothing else. Winters here don't get too terribly cold, but it's not exactly beach weather. Anyway, he was the first person to tell me about MTF several years ago, and ever since I've been wanting to try some of the real line. He doesn't know I grow, and just thinks I always have some good stuff on hand. Maybe next time I see him I'll ask if he has any beans lying around from back home. That'd be cooler than cool! :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

That's where mine came from. My darlin' The Yeag had his dad send me a bunch from the Kenai a couple years ago. I got some different phenos but all display specific MTF traits very well. The only real difference is plant structure, which varied widely among the plants from those beans, even though the buds all taste similar and have that knock you out creeper velvet sledgehammer feel. I chose a really nasty stocky male from the line to create my Rhinofuck seedline and have been happy with the way the dense buds and black grape scent of the MTF got passed to the offspring. Combined with the copious visible resin production of the White Rhino, it's a nice strain. The pure Alaskan stuff I run doesn't have a very frosty look to it, but hits harder than anything else in my garden, even though one pheno has about the bag appeal of Beasters, AFTER they've been keifed off, hahaha!

[SnSstealth]

stop making my mouth water!!! i lost a good friend whom i traded seeds with alot....now i just got my 3 strains, and my cross!!! you know of any reputable seedbanks stinky?
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

Sn, not sure if you're looking for a source for the MTF; if so, seedbanks really don't seem to have an acceptable substitute yet. For other stuff, I've been happy with seedboutique, cannaseur, and a private breeder. I'll send you some info.

[SnSstealth]

not MTF...just somewhere were i will get what i pay for...dont mind cost, if its really the strain it says. would be forever indebited to you for just a direction to get good beans stinky:thumbsup::jointsmile:

:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey hello to everyone...

Hey Stink what do you think is a great yielder that flowers quite fast for indoor cultivation. I have so much shit I've been going through. it takes maybe 1 seed or 100 to get the perfect strain to pump out. I've been on a bad strech now... I need help I like fluffy light colored strong strong weed. Better the THC content the better for me willing to sacrafice Yields for quick turn around I tryed a site you had recomended seedboutique
but with all those strains I just figured maybe you know of a good one to choose from them... Thanks alot for all your posts

[SnSstealth]

the ONE time i got MTF...it was definitely one of the best strains i ever tried!!!!
WT

[stinkyattic]

GreenLeaf, you really should look into Pure Power Plant. It can run 8-9 weeks, so it's not among the fastest, but it's an amazing indoor strain that yields like CRAZY and has a beautiful pale frostiness to the buds. It's worth the extra week over the 7-8 week strains.

[GreenLeaf420]

GreenLeaf, you really should look into Pure Power Plant. It can run 8-9 weeks, so it's not among the fastest, but it's an amazing indoor strain that yields like CRAZY and has a beautiful pale frostiness to the buds. It's worth the extra week over the 7-8 week strains.

Hey Stink thanks for the input. With the Pure Power Plant what type of flavor does it produce. A Strong High with a great Flavor? Back in the day before my mentore was deported we were growing the original light fluffy limey original haze. He is such a master. 15,000 sq ft 90 1000 watts between 3 rooms crazy fuckers we were... LOL My mouth is watering. 1.5 grams looked like a QT oz. I really want to stay away from the 12-13 week shit but I still want to try to get that potency along with a really fruity flavor like G13,Sours,OG Kush, or original haze but somethng that I can start around here new. That will wake everyone up... Or Knock Em Out.. LOL ... I was thinking before talking with you about trying Super Skunk @ 7-8 weeks Shiva Skunk Same time frame With the Super it will make just more than just your attick stinky. LOL Being that you live in Northern states like me and I'm going to put an order in. What do you like for outdoor flowering? I'm ready to flower everything and start from scratch again. It's been over a YR since I've done that... I feel like I loose a friend everytime I Flower my mothers... :( I may bag the outdoors 12 and 12 well see really like my Fredom maybe I will pass that job off.. The Pure Power Plant is avlable @ seedboutique? I seen that you have had good results with them. Nothing lost in the mail? LOL

Thanks Again GL420

[stinkyattic]

If you want a true Super Skunk, go for the Critical Mass (Massachusetts Super Skunk seedline from Mr. Nice Seeds). Phee eww, make the NEIGHBORS' attic stinky too. I run clone-only Mass Super Skunk atm and it's a nice plant. I haven't taken her all the way through flower yet but 20 years or so of happy growers running that cut can't ALL be wrong hahaha.

I couldn't put a finger on the exact flavor of PPP but it's rich and spicy-sweet. Cure it up nice. For potent n fruity, I am real happy with RushMan's 'Toxic Lemon' (8-9weeks) and anything from the Spice of Life 'Sweet Tooth' line. If you can find Blockhead, she's a nasty burly crystally bitch. Yum yum. Can you tell I dig citrus? lol. But fluffy, they ain't. More like rocks. OGKush will give ya the fluff, but OG Kush annoys me. I grow it, but as a plant stuffed in a spare corner of the flower room to give me that unique high, not as a producer. She's too picky and demanding for my taste. I don't get down with that high-maintenance bullshit lol. I guess that's also why I don't play with hazes. Too long to finish=too many things to go wrong. And I'm an indi girl anyway... already wound pretty tight... that heady shit makes me nutty.

Outdoors, you're looking at it. Donkey Dick or whatever the local oldtimers happen to be growing in your area. I'm not an outdoor grower but communicate with a few guerrilla masters on the regular. lol.

Damn would I have liked to be a bug on your wall in the old spot. 15k sqft is sickness in a fucking CAN. You're nuts dude. Dizzam.

[SnSstealth]

That's where mine came from. My darlin' The Yeag had his dad send me a bunch from the Kenai a couple years ago. I got some different phenos but all display specific MTF traits very well. The only real difference is plant structure, which varied widely among the plants from those beans, even though the buds all taste similar and have that knock you out creeper velvet sledgehammer feel. I chose a really nasty stocky male from the line to create my Rhinofuck seedline and have been happy with the way the dense buds and black grape scent of the MTF got passed to the offspring. Combined with the copious visible resin production of the White Rhino, it's a nice strain. The pure Alaskan stuff I run doesn't have a very frosty look to it, but hits harder than anything else in my garden, even though one pheno has about the bag appeal of Beasters, AFTER they've been keifed off, hahaha!


is it anything like being smashed in the face by a gold brick wrapped in mint? i have GOT to get me hands on some MTF:jointsmile:
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[GreenLeaf420]

Damn would I have liked to be a bug on your wall in the old spot. 15k sqft is sickness in a fucking CAN. You're nuts dude. Dizzam.

Yeah Stink those were the good old days 1997 Vigilante style. A Young dumb guy who was 18 yrs old going on 40 and crazy but was taught by the best. Shit I live in a city were the buildings are high rents are and we live in a concrete jungle. The cost of homes in the Burbs run anywhere from 2,500 up a month to rent and that's on the real low end WITH NO PROPERTY. So we thought to stay industrial Queens and Brooklyn cheap rentsâ?¦. Or we could just be a bunch of nuts and rent a warehouse floor. Were we put three rooms in between three lofts on a 60,000 Sq ft of warehouse floor W/ 15,000 ft broken down rotating crops of course in 5,000+ sections. It was so perfect I donâ??t know how I slept @ night. Below us was a furniture factory and boy they pump allot of heat electric to... LOL ;) the way we split that floor space no one could tell. The hallway had 9 doors 6 to enter the lofts and 3 storage closets. In the back of a "closet" we set up a door that walked you into a 5,000 Sq Ft space Sherwood Forest;). SOG HEAVEN THE GREATEST SITEâ?¦ Tenants never had a clue. Shit they were smoking the same weed we had been growing next to them while they slept... LOL 6 lofts 3 closets 15,000 Sqft Plus... We even cooked a few crops forgetting to fill the Reservoirs:angelsmiley:.:(:stoned:... . I feel that if you are going to grow. We are @ risk and the only way to go is big:bigsmoke::bigsmoke:....

Hey Stink I think I may have found the strain to go with Burmese Kush 7 1/2 Wk flowering. Boutique has them from THSEED out of Amsterdam. It won some award @ the cup last year. It's time Stink to blow out some monsters... LOL Hey Have you seen those big wheels in high times Omega Gardens. They have this wheel that spins once every50 minutes. Dam thing looks like a Water Wheel... The advertisement says that the wheel that holds 308 plants will generate 7 Lbs W/ 2000 Watts... Doubt it but would like to know if they are worth the $8,000 they are asking for them... You can stack them 7 High... LOL :thumbsup: Thatâ??s too crazy for me ;);) It's only 5Ft by 5Ft and the rack is 150 Sq Ft.. Well god things come to those who wait my friend always said location location :cool::smokin: Waiting Laid Back...

[zebulon]

I heard bad things about BuKu...and THseeds...

[SnSstealth]

hey stinky;)...your royal dankness always has the answers greenleaf...i have seen the omega garden in action in amsterdam. if you have the money, i would DEFINITELY get one. first 3 harvest will pay for it....there are 2 1k bulbs in the middle (one i saw at least) and the wheel uses centrifugal force to feed and keep the plants growing toward the light....go for it man:)
:smokebong:
whisekytango

[SnSstealth]

zeb...i agree with THseeds from other banks, but i have had HUGE success with THSeeds WW and AK-47. but i got the seeds at THseeds in amsterdam. no 3rd party. I really wouldnt buy from 3rd parties. what the do is they bought the BuKu from THseeds, grew it, seeded it, and are selling it under THseeds name...>just my:twocents:

:Smokebong:
whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

I've seen an Omega in action, not full of plants, but set up and running.
Watering is done by drippers actually as the wheel turns- there are little slots and a spring-loaded plug thing that is plugged when there is no plant in position, but when one comes around, it opens the valve and gives the RW cube a drink. Trick, yes, but a little too Start Trek for me. Perfect for someone who lives in a tiny little space and wants to but the equivalent of like a 4 x 12 SOG into a 5x5 closet.

Damn. I would have loved to see the warehouse/forest/apartment complex lol. I'm actually about to knock out a third apartment in the building I own- not for growing, so I can move down there and rent out my unit, which is the nicest. How much cash flow can I get off my tiny 0.4 acre empire? hahaha! I mean, shit, if yer gonna be a bear, be a grizzly!

Anyway... nothing much to report. A couple of the clones I put in the flower room to sex dried out and croaked on me when I couldn't make it out to water them for 4 days. So back to the chopping block on those. The others that I have confirmed female are getting hacked up again this weekend lol. And the prettiest plant turned out male, lol, as usual. He's getting cloned and then bred to do a quick seed backup.

Edit: Speaking of gold bricks wrapped in mint (mmm pangalacticgargleblasters ftw!), the last batch of truffles came out awesome- they were mint chocolate ganache this time and taste AMAZING. My buddy came over last night and was just munching away one them munch munch munch and granted he's gotta be 300 pounds but I have NO idea how he drove home. I had 2 and couldn't even walk up the stairs.

[dgsgandalf]

zeb...i agree with THseeds from other banks, but i have had HUGE success with THSeeds WW and AK-47. but i got the seeds at THseeds in amsterdam. no 3rd party. I really wouldnt buy from 3rd parties. what the do is they bought the BuKu from THseeds, grew it, seeded it, and are selling it under THseeds name...>just my:twocents:

:Smokebong:
whiskeytango

If you're a serious grower who has a lot of experience growin ganj, then i would def go for the high dollar, top quality seeds.

However, in my situation, i don't have a lot of experience and i'm not really looking to spend $400 on 10 seeds just yet, so i spent $150 on 4 different strains from one of those 3rd party seed banks to start growing and gaining experience. It will still be good ganja, just not the purest version of the strain.

I think you should judge the situation and decide if it's worth it to you to shell out the cash or if you just want good smoke for a good price. Just my humble opinion.

Happy chiefin!

[stinkyattic]

IMHO for what it's worth, new growers should stick with old strains. Sounds funny? Not really. The classics are very hardy. My list of noob-friendly lines includes:
Skunk#1
Afghani
Northern Lights
PPP
and now Donkey Dick...
What do these have in common? They are inbred lines, so you can make your own seeds, and they are CHEAP as a result because anyone can breed them, and best of all, they have a long history of HARDINESS to back them up!

But this is kinda meant to be a LOG, not a discussion of a seed vendor so if you don't mind, could that discussion take place elsewhere? Thanks.

[SnSstealth]

sorry about the seed talk your highness;), sorry to hear about the clones, and Dbs accident..lol our best lookin plant was the male he crushed:( i cant wait to use your recipe for the truffles!!!!! you should've called yours pan galactic!!!....lol
:smokebong:
whisekytango

[hydrocannabis]

hey stinky U still gunna have an outdoor grow this year.

I have a few outdoors now and there looken good as of now.
but there not growing as fast as I would like them to.

well good luck on the rest of UR grows.:D

[GreenLeaf420]

Damn. I would have loved to see the warehouse/forest/apartment complex lol. I'm actually about to knock out a third apartment in the building I own- not for growing, so I can move down there and rent out my unit, which is the nicest. How much cash flow can I get off my tiny 0.4 acre empire? hahaha! I mean, shit, if yer gonna be a bear, be a grizzly!


Hey Stink sorry to hear about your deaths...:(:( Hey you burn shit once in a while just hope it isnâ??t a 290 plant garden,, LOL :D:D Your .4 empire knowing the landlord (YOU?) [PRICELESS] depending on square footage. Iâ??ll leave the FAM back home and bring myself and my friend [LABORER] and hide in seclusion while the wheels spin.. LOL One year 10 maybe 15 gardens and retire for another 5yr LOL... ;);) First need THE MOMS....:wtf: Pain in the ass. I have a hand full of friends around here growing but they ruined every strain I gave them...:wtf: Location Location Location... Need the perfect place can happen in 1 week or 6 months. Sucks But that's my problem I guess. This is what Omega claims that the biggest of all has two 1000watts in it and Will yield 7 LBS. 308 Plants Roughly $40,000 a harvest Stealth. Then they sell an attachment were you can go up to seven wheels that go around like a Ferris Wheel... That Weed gets Spun:smokin: :smokin. LOL Just like me when I wake up So Iâ??ll be back.. ;);)

[stinkyattic]

Lol you still in the Apple? Gotta move Upstate where shit's cheap... get liquid and pick up a foreclosure... Your friends fucked up your collection? Like, lost genetics on ya? Shit. I spread my gene pool out as much as possible so new moms are just a phone call away. Gotta teach those peeps to grow a beet before ya give them something valuable though haha. Skip the Omega if you have space- spend your $$$ on a real sweet climate control system with enrichment instead, hell, spend the 8 gs on RENT and find the perfectest grow house ever lol! I'm not so worried about the deaths. That's the bonus of starting real early, and I still have the clone donors on those. So no losses. 290 plant garden? Dude you don't even want to know what I was up to for a while before I smartened the fuck up and cut waaaaay back on plant hoarding, hee hee! I just gave away about 100 plants in the last couple weeks because I had too freakin many... and it STILL takes like an hour to do 'chores' lol

[GreenLeaf420]

Lol you still in the Apple?

How did you guess?


Shit Stink they crossed everything every way possible. What died off and who went on vacations coming back with a ankle braclet,curfews and a parole officer as a friend. It sucks the older you get the more people you like disappear. Who has one felony and some with two for the â??WAR ON DRUGSâ?� Fuckers. Thank god I slept on the right instances. Check this out I left $30,000 worth of equipment with my buddy five years back. He made claim to everything. Now my shit is spread out in about 5 different states. So I will be using mostly all new shit tooâ?¦ That being said I would pay about $3,000 just for Real Estate Fees. On any rental I pick and then the landlord is a roll of the dice. Indians Iâ??ve had good luck with but you have to be really open with them from the beginning. They wonâ??t call the cops on you if they stumble on your garden oopsâ?¦ LOL Thanks Mr. Gupital.. :D


Really Stink to leave NY I have to leave my FAM :mad: which I would do for the perfect spot. Quick one year tops be back home w/ lots of visits. My friend is pushing Cali he believes we can legally grow 100 plants per person. Iâ??m not sure exactly were but sounds too good to be true. I can just see blowing out to Cali. He is crazy the sick fuck would tell me in the end that was not legal.:thumbsup:LOL Those whole Omega things are a mess they are used mostly for growing lettuce and carrots.LOL $8,000 each would be great to have one just to play with to really see results. The money really isnâ??t that bad if they can produce each and every time. I think they will need to be topped and sent to flowering quick. Otherwise they will burn on that center lamp they have limiting everything max height is probably 18â?� maybe less a plantâ?¦ The radius is only 2 ½ feet with that big light running through the center but If you can get 1 oz per plant SOG then you have 19 lbs. Not a bad crop...LOL

[ProGroWannabe]

Got any new pics stinkster? I know, I know pics, pics, pics that's all anybody ever wants...lol.














So:D, do ya have any?

[veggii]

Hey greenleaf I'm out in cali and the best place is mendcino county
get yourstate id then your recomendation from doctor
then head on over to the sheriff's
deptmartment and get your ziptie's for your plant's
I think it's 6 per patient you can have 25 max plants legal!
you can check the mendicino county
sheriff's website he's got the info posted, it's the closest to 100%
legal in the USA!!
If you got any ??? you can email me:thumbsup:
:rasta::rasta::rasta:
oops o doh!! this is a grow log srry stinky:wtf:

[veggii]

Yes we need togo to the droolzone!!
snap.. snap.. snap ..hmmm go check on sNs's:D

[GreenLeaf420]

Stink do you know what the Laws are for cultivation in Vermont?

[FrostAie]

here you go GreenLeaf420 State By State Laws - NORML (http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516)

[GreenLeaf420]

here you go GreenLeaf420 State By State Laws - NORML (http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516)

Wow nice one Frost. Much appreciated:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

Hey guys I was away from the pooter all weekend. Pics are in the camera and waiting to be uploaded...
Busy busy day ahead though so I'll be barely popping in and out today. Let the trolls know... the cat's away for a bit lol!!!

[stinkyattic]

Here's some eye candy!
First batch... the results of some early flowering of the low-numbered (=less desirable) individuals.

1- Females in their 2nd week of flower
2- Male in his 2nd week, caught JUST IN TIME and about to open. Male flowers indicated by arrows

3- Other stuff that is flowering

4- Purple bud from a Yeag's MTF that I treated with SnowStorm. In the background you can see a BlueJay x BoggleGum and something else that was missing its tag, lol. Note the variety of hues you can get in the same conditions from different strains! Low temps and a purple booster bring that out.

[SnSstealth]

lookin GREAT your highness!! purple booster? do tell...that yeags is lookin good enough to :eat:!

:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[Weedhound]

PARTY AT STINKYS!!!!!

[Mr. Clandestine]

Pic #4 is just plain purrdy! I miss the look & smell of fresh manicured buds... :sadcrying

(Hay ppl, new pster here... IF I harvest'd 7 weeks 2 early, anyone think I'm going 2 lose any poten-C?) :wtf:

GOD, I'm starting to get impatient. Smoke a few fat nugs for me Stinky!

Enviously yours,
-Mr. C

[stinkyattic]

I am having one of those run around days. I just got an ion chromatograph up and running that hasn't been used in almost a year, woot. Not to let that cut into my posting though, haha!
Some pics of the Dicks!
1- more confirmed males including a BMR
2- more confirmed females, including some clones that are already moms
3- cuttings from the first round that are just chillin, waiting for a new home
4- culls including DDs that are clones from a confirmed male with a low tag #. You know you like my fuzzy slippers.
5- yet ANOTHER round of cuttings, Donkey Dicks in the tray on the left.

[stinkyattic]

1- Drrrty hot bug sex aww yeah it's the best kind!
2- Another pic of the DD moms
3- VT purple shit seedlings recovered from growing up into the light fixture early in life (oops!)
4- A variegated Sapphire plant bred by a friend
5- + rep for someone who can identify this substance; I will truly be impressed at your geekdom.

[SnSstealth]

ganache?
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

lol! Not ganache this time! Ganache isn't actually heated on the stove; it's made by pouring 200'F heavy cream over an approximately equal weight of chopped chocolate and allowing to rest until the chocolate has softened enough to whisk into the cream.

Here's more pics while you are thinking... answer in the morning!
(you didn't like the insect pr0n? :()

[Mr. Clandestine]

]Here's more pics while you are thinking...

:jawdropper:You connoisseur, you! Now, wait... what was the question again?

[keeko]

canna peanut brittle?.......i have no idea but things are looking great on your end.

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey Stink.. Glad your back I found a spot 12x30 will divide just not sure how yet. The only problems now I have to come up W/ all the clones. I'm already having troubles. I'm going to have everything mixed up shit 20 clones from all diffrent friends... Have to start up again somewere I guess. I should start a post W/ the set up of the complete space.. I just have to get the rooms going ASAP I really want to get the perfect strain though really skunky. That won't happen unless someone just drops a bomb on me.... LOL If there is a god Please....

[SnSstealth]

"ill take an o of each strain:jointsmile:...checks in the mail...

maybe the cannabrittle sounds right...definitely looks like cannapeanut butter too...heh

:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[Mr. Clandestine]

Oh, right, that was the question! Well, since cannabrittle is already taken... cannafudge? Cannapudding? Brown cannasouffle? (LOL, this is canna fun! :D)

[marijuanavillebilly]

nice bug sex pics!
is it canamel? (cannabis + caramel)
and the plants look nice!

[stinkyattic]

Aww Greenleaf... super skunky... mmm you REALLY want to run the stinky shit commercially? You may be nuts~ lol Hope you got a good filter! The cannabis gods just dropped the Mass Super Skunk on me recently, and as much as I want to flower out a whole run of her, I think I'm going to wait until November to finish in low temps and keep the stank down. That strain scares me lol. But damn, if it weren't for a) my own paranoia and b) board rules I'd be tickled pink to see someone run it comm scale :(

MJVB wins! Cannamel! Here's more pics! Dosage appears to be just 1 piece app. 1/2" x 1/4" x 1-1/2" Recipe is an adaptation of PharmaPharmer's large-batch:
1c sugar
1c dark corn syrup
1c WELL-WASHED cannabutter. If you skip the wash step, they taste like shit flambe.
1 can sweetened condensed milk
1 teaspoon almond extract
1 teaspoon vanilla
1 teaspoon salt

Butter a cookie pan with sides, preferably a nonstick one. Flat cookie sheets do NOT work!!!!!
Ideally you will work in an enamelled-cast iron saucepan.
Melt butter in a large, HEAVY pan with the corn syrup and sugar. Bring to boil over LOW heat stirring const, and boil for 4 minutes.
Remove from heat, stir in milk, return to VERY LOW heat, and bring to 245'F while stirring constantly.
REmove from heat, whisk in flavorings.
Pour into pan.
Allow to cool undisturbed until fully set.
Cut into whatever size and shape you like, and immediately wrap each piece in waxed paper.
Preferably, you should always make candy on cool DRY days. Wear LONG SLEEVES. This stuff will cause severe burns as it bubbles and pops during the final heating.

[daihashi]

4- A variegated Sapphire plant bred by a friend


Man, I would love a variegated plant. That would be so cool and pretty. I don't think I could bring myself to chop it down when the time came, or even switch to 12/12.

:hippy:

[SnSstealth]

mmmm...recipes from the queen. man i gotta lot o cookin to do at harvest;)....lookin good stinks!
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

Variegation shows up in the Thunderfuck lines too, and others- you'll see it eventually if you grow long enough. Just save a mom from your spotty plant.

I'm SO over bubble hash- I find that the candymaking is just SO MUCH FUN!!! And it's actually pretty easy to do large batch butter extraction. In terms of value-added products, with bubblehash going for ~$20/g here and candy going for $5/dose, IMHO the candy is superior. I get one stick of STRONG cannabutter (8 tablespoons) per 16g dried high-quality trim and popcorn buds, and that's enough to do a good run of edibles! Not that I'm trying to make a fortune off my 'fakery' or anything... lol. But for a med user who needs to be on a constant level of medication, it's tough even WITH a card to tell your boss, "Eh bossman, I'ma go burn one out back if ya don't mind"... you know? Easier to sit in your cube with a box of those Russell Stovers nasty chocolate coated turds, with the gross mass produced ones replaced by some handcrafted cannachocolates!

[Weedhound]

Until your boss sees them and helps himself to several......... now THERE'D be something interesting to see. :D

[smok3y]

Stinky that Cannamel looks really Lovely man...:eat:

[Mr. Clandestine]

Until your boss sees them and helps himself to several......... now THERE'D be something interesting to see. :D

I was just thinking about that when I read Stinky's post. Wouldn't it be funny if that super hard-ass that works in the cubicle right next to you came over while you were gone, and ate enough chocolates to get 4 people lit? Come back and see them back in their cubicle playing Solitaire, napping on the keyboard, or completely losing their mind and ranting like a lunatic.

That'd make for a very interesting work day. :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Thanks! I just had my first whole one. It is 12:55. I also just had half a turkey club. I know you're supposed to take edibles on an empty stomach, but I have a bunch of work to do and I don't want to get all spacey, just drop my anxiety level down to focus better.
Report to follow, lol!
A hint on this style of cannamel:
Compared to a more traditional caramel recipe, PharmaPharmer's uses a TON of butter. They come out quite soft and need refrigeration before cutting, packaging, or really doing anything with them.

[GreenLeaf420]

Stink you are a true connoisseur. Your cooking is something that I find to be so amazing. I love keif and hash way to much work for me though. I keep showing my girl all your cooking techniques you have. She is a really good cook (Must be in an Italian Household it's a requirement;)) LOL... I'm prep-n her up for when the time comes. Stink you Italian I don't think so because there is no garlic in your recipes :D:D

Send the cannabis god's to NY let them know I need Clones :):)

[stinkyattic]

Garlic caramel? Oh hells no. But wait until I run ya through my canna- aracine!!! Mmm cheesy saffron rice, stuffing, and DEEP FRIED!!! I'm not Italian but I cook the part, har har har. My puttanesca sauce is rank and fishy enough to cover up the OTHER smells of the ol' stinky shack lol!

[marijuanavillebilly]

but what about some canna-pizza?

[GreenLeaf420]

Stink what's going on? I was hoping to get whatever input I can from you and the others on these strains I just picked up.... I used seed Botique. Stink I know you mentioned them. Are they good and reputable? Do you think they get the originals and then make their own seeds? Well I just hope one is good!!!!! LOL

1xWHL5F-POWER PLANT You mentioned that one Stink. Theydid not give a good description just good yielder
1 x THS-BURMESE KUSH 71/2 week harvest OG? BURM MIX Yield?

1 x GRS5F-Lemon Skunk---They Say DONKEY DICKS LOL That's awesome Extra yield I can see the SOG now 7 week
1 x SEN - Sensi Skunk One of the all time greats good yielder 7 week

Any info is greatly appreciated...

[stinkyattic]

Yeah, seedboutique is a solid vendor. I'm not sure how the breeding over there goes, but they have a good selection of 'classics' like that Power Plant. Of your list, that's the only one I've ever run. I'd like to see how that lemon skunk turns out. We get some pine-sol stinkin' Canadian outdoor around here- I dig that citrus/skunk taste big time. I've got a Burmese cross, but it's not Nirvana's. I don't know who bred it, but I got it from the Providence RI area.

[SnSstealth]

you should make a recipe book...:jointsmile:
how are the babies doing?

:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[Weedhound]

What the h*ll is a ganache? :wtf:

[SnSstealth]

lol...its the stuff in the middle of truffles...mmm
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey Stink Since there is no real fourm on a build of the perfect advanced techniques for a "SEALED ROOM" do you think you can start one? My friend is setting one up and wants the newest and best techniques;);)... I mean the actuall construction as to what's needed in materials, lighting ventelation,bedds,humidifiers, CO2 Generators A/C UNITS (thermo Plus) Best possible setups and costs. I dont see any rooms like that and I don't know how to start a thread. Hope you can help!!!! LOL

Has anyone seen that fourm 3lbs a 1000watt has to be the strain big yield.

[stinkyattic]

Just go into the forum you want to start the thread in and look just above the threads for the 'new thread' button, and follow the simple prompts.
I don't know jack shit about sealed rooms beyond the basic concept of providing ample CO2. Get a thread going in 'indoor' if you want, or 'advanced', but the 'growroom setup' section does not support image uploads FYI.

[ProGroWannabe]

So, hows them babies doin Stink? I trust their doin good?

[GreenLeaf420]

Just go into the forum you want to start the thread in and look just above the threads for the 'new thread' button, and follow the simple prompts.
I don't know jack shit about sealed rooms beyond the basic concept of providing ample CO2. Get a thread going in 'indoor' if you want, or 'advanced', but the 'growroom setup' section does not support image uploads FYI.


I put one out there it's HUGE LOL I would not read it... HAHHAA :rastasmoke:

No it is very educational I copied and pasted a article. The Jist of it is. They tell you to throw out all conventional methods. Then produce the best maximum enviorment with all Sealed CO2 Dehumid and you then have :jointsmile::jointsmile:"the perfect set up"

[SnSstealth]

update on the babies? haven't heard anything in a minute mrs. dankness....
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[daihashi]

Yeah stinky!

It's been about a week. Where are our pictures missy? You need to stay on top of things. lol j/k

:thumbsup:

ps: pictures now! :)

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey Stink you don't post on the WeekEnd!!!! You work all weekend cookin up your WILD Luchious dishes for us?

[SnSstealth]

:wtf:

[stinkyattic]

Yeah I work all weekend away from computers, cell phone service, or hot running water :wtf:. Seriously. I'm pooped.

Here's pics showing the clone setup and the mothers.
The tray of yellow plants sat WAY too long in WAY too small pots without being potted up- this shows why you need to re-pot regularly! Check the root mess too. Ow.

The last picture is a room about 5 x 6 feet lit by a SINGLE 24" New Wave t5 fixture. Holy crap! This is more than enough light to COVER the floor with rooting cuttings if I felt like spending the next month stripping nodes... lol

[GreenLeaf420]

Yeah I work all weekend away from computers, cell phone service, or hot running water

Go shower you smell.. LOL:jointsmile::jointsmile:

[SnSstealth]

wanna hire a helper?...lol...me and the wife will be there in a week...:jointsmile:
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[ProGroWannabe]

That one two-foot fixture lighting an entire clone room is pretty cool Stink. So who's the big girl there in the mother room in the white pot?

[GreenLeaf420]

Stink have you ever heard of this machine called the big red shredder?

Kind Seed Marijuana Seeds, Big Red Shredder, Equipment (http://www.kindseed.com/proddetail.asp?prod=shrdr)

They say with this machine you can trim in 10 minutes what takes two hours by hand? If this works it is great have you ever seen one? I found the machine as cheep as $ 800.00 is it worth it?

[SnSstealth]

hey stinks...what did ya think about monkeypaw?..and did he get busted? i think i sae that he got busted on hg420...

:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

WHAT!? RushMan? Holy shit I gotta go over there and look. That's horrible. Edit: Just googled it and found some discussion on another forum. Seems there's some bad blood between him and some other breeders, but I can't believe the people kicking the man when he's down. I wish him the very best. He only ever showed me good will in our communications.
I haven't grown out the monkeypaw yet but have seeds.
The burly ass plant in the white bucket is Plan B Collective 'Black Indica', Iranian x Afghani. That's the sister of the male used in FoxySeeds' (Afghani Dream x Black Indica) hybrid. Check the size of those thick fan leaves.
GreenLeaf, you are right. I don't smell all that great by Sunday evenings. Trimmers are all well and good if you are taking down a warehouse worth of bud- I haven't gotten there yet and never will. On a small scale, I like to hand-trim. That one looks like it would do a better job than a Hedgehog with that more delicate trim location. What about just buying a FlowBee? Or hiring a team of trained monkeys? Hell, I hear Britney Spears might be lookin' for a job... getting into some green would do her good... hahahaha
Sn you guys are totally invited. :D

[SnSstealth]

lol...your a fuckin trip!
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[SnSstealth]

and i always hand trim as well...i hang em, hand trim them, and the FIRST time my nugs touch anything, its the curing jars:thumbsup:...now where did i put those greyhound tickets.....
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[GreenLeaf420]

Brittney Spears OH SHIT she just left!!!! It was wierd though I had mad maxx @ my house too .....:jointsmile::jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Ugh. Just when I thought I was out of the woods... One of the DDs that went into flower (an undesirable low numbered one) sprouted a set. The first pic is of a herm and a female, and the second is a straight up full blown herm. And I didn't notice him before he rubbed one off all over the surrounding plants. Even better, he/she is RIGHT in front of the fan. I'm pissed.

I am also having water problems. I'm running off a well that is located at the base of a steep hillside covered with hemlock trees. Conductivity reads only 107 micromhos, but I'm apparently using up the buffer SUPER fast... I ran an alkalinity test on it, which is a simple titration with sulfuric acid and a pH meter, and discovered that it buffers like crazy in the mid 6 range, but that the CaCO3 content was only 2.4 freakin mg/L! So I'm assuming crazy levels of organic acids, and no limestone, which explains the sudden appearance of Ca deficiency symptoms in my flower room. The short version is, my water, which should be awesome, sucks, and I'm running with CalMag now.

[SnSstealth]

damn your highness...that sucks, i found some nads on one of mine, and I am actually glad cause i wanted to let someone i know get some beans of this cross...partner actually killed my dad of the cross (busting your balls Db)...but sound like you got blasted with pollen, not a lil nut rub on one or 2 buds...sorry to hear that. Shitty about the water too...seems like thats hitting all of us...you, WH, and me have had water issues this month...bastards....
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

It's spring runoff around here- don't know about you warm-climate folks.

[keeko]

good old 80 degrees here in ATX, its time i look for an outdoor spot.

have you figured out if your going to do an outdoor grow or are you going to let your buddies try it?

[stinkyattic]

Long time no see keeko, how ya been?
I've run into a bit of sticky wicket in my grow plans and may be putting EVERYTHING outside soon to fend for itself... :(
Even if not, though, I'm definitely sticking a plant or 2 here n there, probably near my favorite fly fishing spot so I can kill two birds with one stone!

[Weedhound]

Sorry to hear you've got troubles Stinkster......hope everything works out ok.

[SnSstealth]

damn stinks...lemme know if i can be of any help....
whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

It's not a big deal- I have to wait and see about something that's just come off and is pissing me off royally more than anythin- I'll be fine, don't you fret. I'm always fine, and I've got no qualms about packing up the team and moving them to a new stadium if I don't like the way the wind is blowing. It's just that at the moment, the scent on the spring breeze is redolent of BULLSHIT. It appears I'm subsidizing someone else's electric bill at the moment... there's a full 2000 kwh unaccounted for on my last statement. Time to play detective, and possibly to play bitch-on-wheels, too. I'm getting a lot of practice at that lately with the likes of Kbrandon, grrrr.... ;)

[keeko]

Long time no see keeko, how ya been?
I've run into a bit of sticky wicket in my grow plans and may be putting EVERYTHING outside soon to fend for itself... :(
Even if not, though, I'm definitely sticking a plant or 2 here n there, probably near my favorite fly fishing spot so I can kill two birds with one stone!

how relaxing would that be. fly fishing and caring for your girls in one spot, sounds nice. best of luck to ya

[SnSstealth]

i need to find some mangroves down here to plant by, so i can do my checkin in and snook fishin;)
WT

[GreenLeaf420]

Long time no see keeko, how ya been?
I've run into a bit of sticky wicket in my grow plans and may be putting EVERYTHING outside soon to fend for itself... :(
Even if not, though, I'm definitely sticking a plant or 2 here n there, probably near my favorite fly fishing spot so I can kill two birds with one stone!

Say what no STINKY MOTHER ROOM!!!!!:wtf::mad::mad:

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!

Stink come to NY I can donate a space in my new spot working on getting the house next to it to also....

+ I can use someone down here with a half of a head.

Don't throw such a nice collection to the deers to just harvest one time I mean I like deer but not that much!!!! ;)

I don't have a oven for your cooking but I do have a Gas Kil for Stainglass LOL..

OK Ill get the stove :jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey Stink that guy that was being an asshole about TRAINWRECK. That was the GreenHouse strain he was talking about right? Is that Strain messed up from them? I just received 10 fem seeds of that as well as THE CHURCH from GH.. I hope they are good!!!

Invite still stands.... :)

I need to get a fly fishing rod and find a spot to fish. So I can plant... LOL:D:D

[HerbalConfusion]

Hey Stink that guy that was being an asshole about TRAINWRECK. That was the GreenHouse strain he was talking about right? Is that Strain messed up from them? I just received 10 fem seeds of that as well as THE CHURCH from GH.. I hope they are good!!!

Invite still stands.... :)

I need to get a fly fishing rod and find a spot to fish. So I can plant... LOL:D:D

I think GH is very hit or miss i have smoked some very good church though good luck with it man.

[stinkyattic]

Hey Stink that guy that was being an asshole about TRAINWRECK. That was the GreenHouse strain he was talking about right? Is that Strain messed up from them? Yes, and yes. It has a very bad reputation for going hermaphrodite in late flower even under ideal conditions.
I can't deal with big cities :( But the idea of a warehouse grow in NYC is intriguing, lol... Ever read the children's book 'Old Macdonald Had an Apartment House'? I think I internalized that whole lesson real young. Hence the compulsion to garden indoors, lol.

[bombdiggity]

hope you get everything worked out with ur grow plans stinky!

[SnSstealth]

oooo.....i would love to do a warehouse grow...I am moving to NC soon, YAY!!! i get to do some outdoor mountains nug...woo-hoo!!!
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[SnSstealth]

pssst........stiiiinky......
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[stinkyattic]

So here's a tray of buds. Everyone share please!
All that scorching is from the problems I'm having with my well water during spring snowmelt. The pH of the promix PLUMMETS when exposed to such high concentrations of organic acids over a number of weeks.