Flowering from seed?

[OrangeWidow]

Ok so my main question is how long do I have to veg be for I can flower.... I'm not looking for maximum yeild but for a little personal.

My grow space is:
1.9ft x 1.4ft x 1.6
I'm using 1-20w cfl for now... and yes its the correct color.

I'm using some soil I found in an outdoor pot

Can I veg for a week or two and do lst avout 6-10 days b4 I flower and continue as ir flowers?

The lid of the box doesn't close all the way so it is allowing pleanty of hot air to vent from the top.

Has been germinating for the past 2-3 days and was just planted about 20 min ago
I just planted it about 15 min ago....

[dejayou30]

Its more than seed + dirt + light + water = bud. In order to get anything worthwhile, you have to put in some effort.

[eggrole1]

It will take a bit longer that 1-2 weeks veg from seed, assuming you count from the first sign of life. I would say give it at least a month to mature from the first break in the soil.

After that you will probably want to take clones of your healthy ones, sex them or just flower the originals and hang on to the clones (label them well!)

Estimate on 2-3 months from seed to harvest.

[michaelpeg]

i agree, and also i dont think u will get fuck all from 1 20w cfl

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

You have a space of 1.9x1.4x1.6 ft which is length, width, hight. If you only have around 1.5' of hight, you will need to induce flowering, I would say when plants are around 4'' high. You can get a longer veg period doing LST. I would reccomend doing this and veg as long as you can, so to let the plant mature as much as your space will allow. Start flowering cycle when your space is 33% full. Hard to tell with out pics of your cabinet.

[OrangeWidow]

Ok I posted about an hour ago and for some reason it didn't work....

I plan on adding more lights.... and please don't talk to me like I don't know what I'm talking about. I have been on this site for some time now but don't really talk that much. I also invested in the book, Grow Great Marijuana by logan edwards.... it is a lot of help but is mostly stuff I already know.

I am going to veg for about 2weeks b4 I flower and start the lst as soon as its tall enough at about 3-4" and add one more cfl and replace the one its veging under to a 2700k and add my 75w for only 20w replacement Energy choice Biax electronic floresent bulb for flowering. I'm sure I could get a little bit of personal out of it and I'm also sure I could get rid of the leaves and shake for like 20 or 40 bucks lol.

I'm just testing out what I could do for future grows. I want to end up have 1 full CFL grow and hopefully doing an Led project as well just to test it out.... it seems very interesting. I should have 3-4000lummens on this plant b4 I'm done.

Thanks very much jerry! Your the only smart one that has replied with useful and kind information unlike all the assholes that woke up on the wrongside of the bed.

[Rusty Trichome]

Ok I posted about an hour ago and for some reason it didn't work....
Thanks very much jerry! Your the only smart one that has replied with useful and kind information unlike all the assholes that woke up on the wrongside of the bed.

The post that "didn't work" was removed by a mod. Your response tword dejayou30 was not well recieved, was not appropriate, and definatelly not deserving of any assistance from that point on.

Looking at the tone and content of your last post, you know damn well where your post (and my response to your post) went. It was there for quite a while.

If you feel it's ok to bust our door down, asking for advice, screaming obscenities at other members that are here to help (if you don't act like a moron) then you can expect the same in return. Am still wondering where your appology to dejayou3 is.

[keeko]

The post that "didn't work" was removed by a mod. Your response tword dejayou30 was not well recieved, was not appropriate, and definatelly not deserving of any assistance from that point on.

Looking at the tone and content of your last post, you know damn well where your post (and my response to your post) went. It was there for quite a while.

If you feel it's ok to bust our door down, asking for advice, screaming obscenities at other members that are here to help (if you don't act like a moron) then you can expect the same in return. Am still wondering where your appology to dejayou3 is.

preach it......its good to see a respectful member sticking up for the other respectful members

[dejayou30]

I don't expect an apology. When I started, I got a little rude with some of the people in here because I thought I knew more than I did, so I assume this is the same deal. The fact is that no matter how much you read and think you know before hand, there's so much more that you will learn when you are actually growing. Its never as easy as it seems at first.

However, by your initial post, it seemed like you didn't really have things thought out very well. For example, you just mention soil from an outdoor pot? Do you know what kind of soil? You also made no mention of the pH or anything like that. It just didn't seem like you knew what you were doing, so I just wanted to throw out there that its harder than it seems. I really didn't mean to offend you. :jointsmile:

[OrangeWidow]

Ok I will appologise for being rude.

I can't post pics cause my pc won't let me.. I made a hood for the light that directs all the light downward out of a 4x4x6 box that I lined with mylar. I am going to add oone more cfl when I go out later.

The soil looks good but idk what the ph is. I really can't afford anything right now it sucks.

[OrangeWidow]

Oh and when I found the pot of soil outside.... it was on its side and a blackberry bush root had come up out of the ground and rooted itself in the pot, so I just guessed it was good soil.

[Rusty Trichome]

Ok I will appologise for being rude.
Me too. I can become a bit spirited before my coffee.;)

[Rusty Trichome]

Tried to rep ya Keeko, but wouldn't let me again.

Anyways, thanks. Your words of support are greatly appreciated. :jointsmile:

[OrangeWidow]

Ok so I took the box and rotated it on its side so it opens like a mini frige, lined it with black garbagebags then with white.

Gave me about 2ft height and about 1.5 lenght and width.

I have been watching the soil all day and about 2 hours ago I noticed that it popped up out of the soil a little bit. Looking at the root a little bit and it is growing fast and strong already.

Temps are about 79-82 without a fan.... just have to leave the door of it crracked open.... I really think I'm gunna make this work.

[OrangeWidow]

Ok so I took the box and rotated it on its side so it opens like a mini frige, lined it with black garbagebags then with white.

Gave me about 2ft height and about 1.5 lenght and width.

I have been watching the soil all day and about 2 hours ago I noticed that it popped up out of the soil a little bit. Looking at the root a little bit and it is growing fast and strong already.

Temps are about 79-82 without a fan.... just have to leave the door of it crracked open.... I really think I'm gunna make this work.

[dejayou30]

You HAVE to know the pH in order to grow cannabis.

[OrangeWidow]

I'm gunna have to go get that then....

I was watering it and adding mylar and I accidently bumped the top of the shell and it fell off.... and under ir was 2 leaves..... but I set it back on top like it was to help protect it. The stem and the plant looks like it is starting pretty good. Most of the white part is turning green and looks like its about to open up.

[Orzy]

When it comes to your setup the amount of money you put into it directly influences the result. Budget grows are definitely possibly, but even those "cheapy" grows still have an average of $100-$200 invested into them just to make it possibly to have a harvest.

I'm not saying it wont work out, but to make even slightly worthwhile you're gonna need to be incredibly crafty with minimal funds or simply invest more money into the project.

[OrangeWidow]

Well I am quite crafty and I will put more money into the project but that will probably be more around the flowering stage.

[Orzy]

Good luck, man. Hopefully in a few months you'll be schmoking the paht of the homegrown sorts.

[keeko]

Tried to rep ya Keeko, but wouldn't let me again.

Anyways, thanks. Your words of support are greatly appreciated. :jointsmile:

ha, said the same thing when i tried repping after your post . "must spread before repping again." :thumbsup: next time

[lildre]

can you tell me what strain you think this is i am a first time grower and i used some bagseeds but this is lilian she is 3 weeks at this time she is 4 now....this pic was took when the light first came on cuz she is drobin but on because the light just came on she still sleepin..i will update on the pics but can you help any body what strain is this i think its BIG BUD. but dont know:rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmok e:

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Lildre,

Why are you posting in someone else's grow log. This Question belongs in basic growing!

Any Hoo, Rusty have a question for you. I put a post in here asking Orange Widow to stop insulting other members and that was removed. No big deal just currious as to why?

Orange widow, I see you are using used soil. That is not recomended due to you do not know if it is infected with a number of things.

I see you are trying to do this with the least amount of funds, One thing you cannot go cheap on is soil. Acctualy you can for under $10.00 you can get decent soil at your local nursery. If you are going to transplant go to a decent soil.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

OOOPS,

Thought I was in a grow log for some reason, but Lildre you need to start your own post in this folder.

[Rusty Trichome]

...Any Hoo, Rusty have a question for you. I put a post in here asking Orange Widow to stop insulting other members and that was removed. No big deal just currious as to why?
Ummm...not sure why your post was removed, as I don't think I saw it. However I'm pretty sure I know why mine and OW's were removed. I'm guessing the thread was getting out of hand, and was pruned back a bit by someone with a more level headed approach.

OW...there is really no stage at which you can skimp, and expect to reap an adequate harvest. Yes, we grow a weed, and it can grow ok in the wild, but we manipulate the plant to grow how and when we like it. If all you want is a 5 foot tall plant with 2 little buds on it, scrimping is the way to go.
In other words...Lets say you have a cookbook with a really good recipe for a chocolate cake. You can not make that cake just by reading the recipe. You'll need all of the ingredients, measuring cups, bowls, an oven, timer, and a knife and fork. These are the tools of cooking. The more you scrimp on the recipe, the more your chocolate cake will taste like 10 years old fruit cake.

Same with making cannabis. You'll need the tools of the trade and the proper ingredients to pull off a sucessful grow.

[OrangeWidow]

Well either way I just want the beauty of it in my precence. So I'm just messing around but plan to get some sort of smoke off it. I'm adding more bulbs in the box. I got ahold of a ph tester and it read 7.0 so I think its good. The plant is turning very green.

But once again I was fucking around and the first leaf that was pointing up got snapped half way off but is still attached a little bit. Coukd this kill it or is it stil possible to keep it going? It still looks healthy and the stem looks to be getting strong.

I put a fan on itfor about 5hours today and it looks to have livend it up.
For flowering should I have only 2700k blubs or should I mix?

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

OW,

I reccomend the fan run 24/0 this helps keep humidity down and helps keep the plant short and builds stem strength.

Lighting question I am going to leave that for someone else, I use HID lighting so I don't know the answer from experiance.

[sharkfinz]

You HAVE to know the pH in order to grow cannabis.

Incorrect.

Why do people want to complicate this?
Cannabis is a very easy plant to grow, it is a weed and virtually indestructible. If you replicate an ideal environment and follow the rules of the photosynthesis, plants grow, period. Isn't is ironic that people kill plants by going nute crazy.......

[Rusty Trichome]

Incorrect.

Why do people want to complicate this?
Cannabis is a very easy plant to grow, it is a weed and virtually indestructible. If you replicate an ideal environment and follow the rules of the photosynthesis, plants grow, period. Isn't is ironic that people kill plants by going nute crazy.......
Wow, sure sounds like some advice klondike bar would have offered, right before he was banned for chronic bad advice.

Good luck with your future crops of hemp, as this is the quality of weed one can expect if certain parameters are not met and maintained. Honestly, I'd burn the book you've 'learned' this nugget of knowledge from.

Ph fluctuations can/will cause nute lock-out resulting in many problems that can be avoided if proper ph is maintained.

Sorry, OW...MH and HPS here, too. (and I try to only offer advice, when I know what I'm talking about)

[sharkfinz]

Wow, sure sounds like some advice klondike bar would have offered, right before he was banned for chronic bad advice.

Good luck with your future crops of hemp, as this is the quality of weed one can expect if certain parameters are not met and maintained. Honestly, I'd burn the book you've 'learned' this nugget of knowledge from.

Ph fluctuations can/will cause nute lock-out resulting in many problems that can be avoided if proper ph is maintained.

Sorry, OW...MH and HPS here, too. (and I try to only offer advice, when I know what I'm talking about)

I am growing with VERY basic equipment and I don't know the PH, I have never used any artificial nutrients and mine are quite happy. If my plants show signs of deficiency I will diagnose the problem and rectify.

[Mr. Clandestine]

Incorrect.

Why do people want to complicate this?

People like yourself?

Perhaps you meant to say that it's very important in soil grows, and VITALLY important in hydro grows. Yeah, I'm sure that's what you meant to say.


I am growing with VERY basic equipment and I don't know the PH, I have never used any artificial nutrients and mine are quite happy.

Is it safe to assume that your plants are less than one month old? Wait until you have to start feeding with "artificial nutrients" to keep the plant alive, then see how important pH becomes. How would you go about fixing a plant that's showing signs of nutrient lockout? Feeding it more nutrients? Just curious...

[OrangeWidow]

Ok so one of the first set of leaves broke off and the otherone is pulling strait up towards the light. Its about 1 inchtall and the second set has come through. What is making the first set pull so much to the light. It doesn't look like its lacking light but actually gaining a lot of power from it. Looking gren and healthy.

[BlazinINthe617]

How far away is your light from the plant?

Make shur that ur light isn't too far away from your plant as this cud lead to stretching.

Since you using CFL's you can get fairly close to the plants with those lights(about 4-6in is good) because they dont give off too much heat.

[daihashi]

How far away is your light from the plant?

Make shur that ur light isn't too far away from your plant as this cud lead to stretching.

Since you using CFL's you can get fairly close to the plants with those lights(about 4-6in is good) because they dont give off too much heat.

I vegged in CFL's my first grow (still ongoing but I have HPS and MH on order now.)

I grew with my cfls about 2 inches from the top of the canopy at all times. Really helped turn my plant into a monster. I suggest starting at 4" away and slowly start lowering until your thermometer peaks just a little over 80.. then back off by 1/2".

[melodious fellow]

Ph is god.

The only way to safely grow without knowing your Ph is to have a stable Ph soil and not add anything to it. Which is about impossible.

I have yet to see a meter under $60 or $80 that works. I like the liquid drop color change tests.

O yea, and I just fucked up my plants by not knowing the Ph. Ha, thanks klondike :) :D:rastasmoke:

[OrangeWidow]

The light is probably about 3-4 " away in a box that I lined with mylar that is 4x4x6" and fits my one 23w cfl that I'm using for veg.....

I have decided I'm probably just going to veg only and take clone for outside. There are a total of 5 leaves right now. There should be 6 but when the second set was showing I accidently broke it off..... now the second set has come through and is looking very healthy.... a little yellow spots that are only noticeable under a magnafier are showing of on the blades of the leaves.....


And then finally the next set of leaves are showing well andhealthy.... it has barley started to branch and hasn't grown upwards much....

I keep LST'ing every3-4days wich I'm not sure if I should but the sprout was about one inch tall then I tied it over a little.... then again and again.... my guess is it should be about 2inch now but I keep it bent sidewayz hahahahah.