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Kush767
01-31-2008, 12:10 AM
If someone came up to you and said "I would like to grow my own weed, I smoke about a ounce a week and would just like to grow enough weed for that purpose." Can I get a ounce a week or even a ounce every two weeks if I setup a SOG grow well.I know I will need a HPS but will just a 150 work?
psteve
01-31-2008, 12:13 AM
Well, if you have to ask, probably not.
There are a LOT of factors involved.
I suggest you read up on the grow forums, and come back when you have a solid plan.
Kush767
01-31-2008, 12:17 AM
Well can I grow a plant with a 150w HPS throughout vegging and flowering. If so, how many plants?
psteve
01-31-2008, 12:22 AM
Again that depends on a lot of things (size of the plants, size of the space, ventilation, strain, nutrients, soil, etc.). We can't just pull numbers out of our butts. We need more details to give an accurate answer.
Kush767
01-31-2008, 12:30 AM
Alright sorry man,
1x150w HPS
I will keep plants small a possible by topping(maybe atleast 5 plants)
8ft high, 2ft wide and around 4ft long
Have fan and good vent.
bagseed
Fox Farm big bloom and grow big
they will be in soil
plans are to get a 150w HPS put the 5 small plants i have now under it keep light on 18/6 then when they get around 15-20in tall ill switch to 12/12. give the nutrients as directed on the bottle. so will 150w do this or maybe 250w?
twitch
01-31-2008, 12:41 AM
the bigger the light the more food your going to give u plants the bigger the light you will get bigger buds if you could afford a 400 watt get it
Kush767
01-31-2008, 12:45 AM
The situation I am in, I think 400watts is just too much though.....the power company scares me :(
i couldnt see a 150w meeting your needs at all. get a bunch of cfls and you could prob do 2
keeko
01-31-2008, 05:59 AM
a 150 will not produce enough for you to smoke an ounce a week
Mr. Clandestine
01-31-2008, 07:00 AM
Keeko's right...in order to be able to produce a quarter pound a month, you're going to need a continuous growing system and a lot more light. How many plants you CAN grow depends on lots of things, but one of the most important considerations is light/lumens per square foot. If the light isn't strong enough you're just going to end up with wispy buds and a sad disposition towards growing.
400w systems really aren't going to cause as much of a power spike when they start up as you probably think they will. Sudden dramatic surges in electrical consumption are what often get big-time growers busted, because of how noticeable they are. But most of the time it's perpetual commercial grows using thousands upon thousands of watts of electricity. A single 1000w system isn't going to show a whole lot difference in your consumption, especially if you can get a hold of some of these newer ballasts. Lots of the 400w-1000w digital ballasts use "Soft Start" technology, which cuts down on the large spikes of current needed to fire up the bulb. If you're looking to grow a ton of it, and especially if you are looking to turn it into profit, you've got damn good reasons to be paranoid. Be sensible about it and don't draw attention to yourself...then you've got very little to worry about.
I think you'll be much happier with the results if you're able to get a 400w system, or stronger. Stronger light = denser buds. Good luck, either way. :jointsmile:
hybridlove420
01-31-2008, 01:24 PM
first off, how are you smoking through an oz or more a week?
a 150hps will allow maybe 3-4 small plants, which would allow 4-8oz every 2-3 months assuming you also use a seperate veg room.
stinkyattic
01-31-2008, 02:33 PM
To clarify, the weight depends on watts of HPS in the flower room rather than the plant count. IF you do everything right, you should be able to pull up to 2 1/2 ounces per month with your 150w HPS. That's a BIG 'if'. New growers won't hit that magic .5g per month per watt number.
You should expect to run a second room with vegging plants under flourescents. I like shop lights but you have many choices. A HPS for veg induces stretch and is not an efficient use of either your light or your space.
Kush767
01-31-2008, 02:58 PM
I have been doing a bit more research and I concluded if I'm really going to do this then I need to stretch for a 400w I have seen some for $120 on high tech garden supply im sure they will screw me with shipping though. But lets say i get the 400w for the flowering room. how many plants will I be able to bud under that one light. room is 4ft long 2ft wide and about 7 1/2 ft high.
stinkyattic
01-31-2008, 03:09 PM
That SHAPE of room is ideal for a pair of small HPS (2 x 250w) or a 4' t5 fixture.
In that size footprint, I would start an entire package of seeds (10) expecting to finish with 4-6 females, which is about right for that space if you pinch each one into a little bush when it is young, and allow each one about an 18" circle of floor space. You will be potting-up and killing the males after week 2 of flower- it WILL seem a bit crowded in the the first 2 weeks of flower; this is normal.
Kush767
01-31-2008, 03:27 PM
Thanks for the info.
Can I just get one 400w since that would be cheaper than having to buy 2 250? And also how big do they need to be to put them under the HPS, I was thinking 15in. I was going to vegg them outside then flower them inside with the HPS. One more question how far away does the hps need to be from the plants at all times?
stinkyattic
01-31-2008, 03:34 PM
a single 400 is not good for that shape of space unless you are running a light mover. You'll have dark corners. Just a heads up.
It's not the size, it's the maturity- as soon as the nodes go alternating (=main stem looks zigzag) they are ready to flower. Train them to be SHORT and FLAT if you can.
Veg outside is going to give you bug and photoperiod problems more likely than not.
Distance depends on light. Flouro =2-3", small HPS= a foot or so, medium HPS= 18"-2.5 feet depending on if it is air cooled or not.
Kush767
01-31-2008, 03:44 PM
I am reading your grow guide and I am wondering if when I get my plan together can i pm it to you for you to read? It'll cover everything about my grow. kinda like a final copy of the research I have done so i can get started :)
stinkyattic
01-31-2008, 04:23 PM
we don't have PMs (PMS maybe, lol) but if you post it up here I'll look it over and I'm sure everyone else will be happy to help too!
Kush767
01-31-2008, 08:10 PM
ehh your right.:jointsmile:
I'll post it up here
hybridlove420
01-31-2008, 10:36 PM
Light bulbs, Rope Lights, Halogen and Fluorescent bulb - 1000-Bulbs - The Light Bulb Superstore (http://www.1000bulbs.com) has cheap lighting to the extreme. you could probably pick up a 400w hps supplies for real cheap
M.B.A.
01-31-2008, 11:21 PM
Well can I grow a plant with a 150w HPS throughout vegging and flowering. If so, how many plants?
1 only
cigarettes42
02-01-2008, 08:57 AM
if your getting a 400 watt hps in that little room your going to also need an air cooled reflector/hood and a inline fan. I got a 400watt from htgsupply and had to buy a inline fan to suck the heat out of the hood because the room got hot.
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