View Full Version : bad if never repot?
ojitos1985
01-28-2008, 02:09 AM
Hello folks, in a few weeks i am starting my first serious proyect with aprox 10 afgaan from nirvana, with a 400watts hid :D...
what you think guys if after the germinating progress is completed, i put all of them in the definitive pot at first, never to repot, how the plant will be? i am just curious because in the mother nature this never happend, the repot lol...
psteve
01-28-2008, 02:18 AM
Yes you can, but be careful when watering them.
Excess dirt can lead to over/under watering problems, and you'll need you watch your nute balance closer in flower.
You could also still have a problem with root binding, unless you're talking about a REALLY big pot, and then I'd be really careful to water just the center at first, gradually more as the plant gets bigger, and not too much or too little.
Re potting also gives you an opportunity to find and fix root problems before they are un-fixable.
ojitos1985
01-28-2008, 02:33 AM
thx for the answer :thumbsup:
well actually they are not really big... i was thinking in a 25x25x25 (cm), OR 30x30x30 (cm).... so i can put all my plants in my indoor (1meter square)...
why is that of just watering the center, the lack of oxigen you mean?
psteve
01-28-2008, 03:01 AM
why is that of just watering the center, the lack of oxigen you mean?
No.
In the beginning, the roots will all be in the center. No use watering areas where there are no roots to absorb the water. Also, the plant will eventually need the nutrients from those outer areas, so you don't want to wash them all away before they can be used.
hybridlove420
01-28-2008, 01:16 PM
to answer the question: if you want to put it instantly into a final container, id suggest using a 3-5 gallon one, as thats the general site consensus.
but i suggest growing the seeds in little flower blister packs ( the ones you buy pansies in) until they have a decent root mass, or you may end up having a few extra big buckets unnecessarily
stinkyattic
01-28-2008, 02:50 PM
It's healthier for a plant to grow in a pot appropriate to its size, and makes MUCH better use of the light.
If you go into a giant pot too early, it will STILL end up rootbound- probably long before it's done, too- and then you're stuck. I just posted a couple threads about repotting last week.
melodious fellow
01-28-2008, 11:18 PM
Use the Jiffy organic bio-degradable pots. When it is time to transplant, the entire pot is placed in ground (soil in new pot) and the old pot just dissolves into the soil
I am also too over-cautious and/or lazy/don't want to waste grow time with shock to do regular transplants more than I have to
Peace
ojitos1985
01-29-2008, 02:17 AM
could we all do a advantage of never repot and repot guys??
i strart with this ones..
Disadvantage of repot is your plant get stuck and you really destroy some roots (self experience)
Another one, it is messy, and not automatized, require more energy , i really think it is not necesary but anyway i am too noob at this point to make sure of that, those guys that have 2000 plants, do they repot?? that will be insanely hard, i mean, they must have thought something to resolve this
just my opinion, feel free to post anything lol.
stinky i am reading about those threats could you link me please i cant found them, some post are hiding for me i dont get it
stinkyattic
01-29-2008, 02:52 PM
Guys with 2000 plants are generally putting a rooted clone directly into the pot it will finish in in a SOG (1 gallon of coco or promix), or into a hydro system, so no, they never re-pot.
Your plant only gets stuck if you plant it in the wrong pot (terra-cotta). You only destroy roots if you re-pot too soon, or when the soil is too wet and heavy. A proper repotting involves a solid, healthy root ball, slightly dry soil, a plastic nursery pot, and correct support of the soil while you transfer it.
Threats? Refresh me... I'm not sure what you are talking about. Who is being threatened?
Rusty Trichome
01-29-2008, 03:21 PM
Threads, Stinky, I think he meant threads, Stinky...
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/148236-why-should-i-re-pot-my-plant-why-not-put-seed-large-pot.html
Rusty Trichome
01-29-2008, 03:50 PM
Disadvantage of repot is your plant get stuck and you really destroy some roots (self experience) You don't dig the plant out to re-pot. Place hand over top of pot, with plant stem between fingers. Turn whole thing upside down and give a sharp 'tap' on the bottom, thus loosening the soil ball from the pot and catching the soil ball in your hand. Place in larger/prepared pot, and add soil, then water.
Another one, it is messy, and not automatized, require more energy , i really think it is not necesary
just my opinion
Not too messy, but for you, and most of the rest of us soil growers, yes...it's necessary.
If you are worried about messy, perhaps soap making or cleaning windshields off Wall St. and Broadway is a hobby better suited for you, lol.
Automation...? We aren't growin' commercial hydroponic lettuce, here, lol.
ojitos1985
01-31-2008, 06:00 PM
i am sorry it was threads, not threats lol.
guys i am not talking about automatize hydroponic letucce rofl, but i am pretty sure you all smoke a lot so why not let the plants grow easy, thats what i was talking about, balancing the effort with the result, the less effort with the better results..
putting a pot inside a pot that is smaller sound good idea, then you only have to cut the bottom, and even smarter is cut it from the begginning and put some of that thing plastic, just like the aluminium foil but plastic, or even smarter of this... sounds to me construct a collapsable pot, or hydro, well... just an idea
melodious fellow
01-31-2008, 10:26 PM
less effort with the better results..
putting a pot inside a pot that is smaller sound good idea, then you only have to cut the bottom, and even smarter is cut it from the begginning and put some of that thing plastic, just like the aluminium foil but plastic, or even smarter of this... sounds to me construct a collapsable pot
With the brown cardboard looking Jiffy pots I was tellin ya about, it is even less effort :D
You do not have to cut the bottom of the pot off. Just simply place the entire Jiffy pot into the soil of the bigger pot and the roots will grow through the Jiffy pot into the soil when they are ready. Zero transplant shock :thumbsup:
peace
foxysox
01-31-2008, 10:27 PM
There are in fact growers who will cut the bottom off a plastic pot and just stick the whole mess on the surface of the new pot, letting the roots grow down in search of new soil.
This might be helpful to growers who have plenty of headroom but not a lot of floor space and want to maximize plant count in a small space; or, maximize volume to footprint ratios. I think the BOG started that fad.
It's also a good way to deal with a plant that's 'stuck' in a terra cotta pot- just break the bottom of the pot off with a hammer and put it On a new pot.
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