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De7406
01-25-2008, 06:11 PM
does anybody know about how long does it take from the first signs of the hairs changing to when its ready to harvest?
De7406
01-25-2008, 10:11 PM
wondering because i have a plant that was having issues that have since been corrected, but there buds havent formed and ive noticed 2 or 3 hairs changing wondering if theres gonna be time for buds to form.
De7406
01-26-2008, 04:54 PM
or NOBODY that has ever done it successfully is going to look at my thread.
muddywaters
01-26-2008, 05:03 PM
it's just that your question is to broad. there's not set time on anything, best way to tell if it's time to harvest is to look at the trich's but even then it's personal preference on how you like them, some like 50/50 amber some like less some more.
but i'd say if your plants aren't producing more flowers and has stopped growing in general and if it's been at least 6-8 weeks in bloom then they should get you high if you did cut them down.
but who knows theirs way to many factor to give you a real answer. without seeing your plants or even knowing the strain or how well they have been treated.
De7406
01-26-2008, 05:19 PM
thanks for the reply i understand that i cant get a specific answer. but the question is coming from a rookie here... basically i think im just looking to know if i have a few weeks or a few days befor im going to be forced to cut them down.
PharmaCan
01-26-2008, 05:36 PM
Your question is totally bereft of any usable information. It's like you're asking, "How long is a short rope?" Try providing some specific information in an understandable manner and probably you can get an answer to your question.
PC :smokin:
De7406
01-30-2008, 05:09 PM
ok since i guess nobody understands my question maybe i should try to refraise. When the hairs start to amber up it is towards the end of flowering, correct?
Dutch Pimp
01-30-2008, 05:23 PM
...forget the hairs, follow the trichs...:thumbsup:
De7406
01-30-2008, 05:39 PM
thankyou for your reply, but the reason i need to know is because i want to make sure to change to freshwater for the last 2 weeks.
stinkyattic
01-30-2008, 06:13 PM
Okay, that's fairly simple then.
Assuming that you are not running so hot that the hairs change early, when you notice that the hairs are dying off at a faster rate than fresh white ones are being produced, that is the time to think about flushing. By that point, you should see mostly cloudy trichs with perhaps just a few amber and some clear. At this point, you're within a week or 2 of harvest.
De7406
01-30-2008, 06:20 PM
ok i hope i dont sound like an idiot here... but the hairs die off?
heat has never been an issue, i had a serious ph problem that is allset now. also, how strong of magnification do i need to get a good view of the trichs and how much do you think something sufficient would cost? again thanks for any replys
stinkyattic
01-30-2008, 06:35 PM
30x mag should suffice- not sure of cost though. My scope came from a dumpster, lol. Check out educational stores, or even the educational/science sections of toy stores.
The hairs turn brown when they 'die', which is either when the calyx has been pollinated and is growing a seed, or when the calyx is too old to still be pollinated.
De7406
01-30-2008, 06:50 PM
ok is there a redish amber and a brown... or is it that if they are not white they are dead/dying
stinkyattic
01-30-2008, 07:06 PM
Hairs do not always start out white- lol just to add even MORE confusion! They can be pink, ivory, or even scarlet. IT is when they change from their original color and start to shrivel and shrink that you know they are dead.
But when it is time to harvest, always go by the color of the crystals, not the hairs.
psteve
01-30-2008, 07:10 PM
I use one of these. 70-100 power. $10 at radio shack.
ok i hope i dont sound like an idiot here... but the hairs die off?
heat has never been an issue, i had a serious ph problem that is allset now. also, how strong of magnification do i need to get a good view of the trichs and how much do you think something sufficient would cost? again thanks for any replys
De7406
01-30-2008, 07:15 PM
70-100 i should see some cool shit with that huh.... thanks for the replys.
now im guessing that the color of the hairs depends on the strain. that being said any one know any strains that produce pink hairs that sounds hot.
psteve
01-30-2008, 07:16 PM
any one know any strains that produce pink hairs that sounds hot.
'Champagne' is known for it's pinkness.
De7406
01-30-2008, 07:20 PM
well thankyou very much for the help, ill be going to radio shack tonight cant wait to see them trichs.
De7406
01-31-2008, 01:51 PM
i got the same thing as psteve, how should i go about using it?
Dutch Pimp
01-31-2008, 02:40 PM
Snip off a very, very small piece of bud leaf, that has trichomes on it and put it on a white paper plate.
De7406
01-31-2008, 02:50 PM
thank you... so if i was to of cut off a hair and looked at that it woulda been no good?
muddywaters
01-31-2008, 03:55 PM
no hairs aren't to trichy, just pull a small bud or trichy leaf and look at it. you can even look at it still on the plant.
i use the radio shack scope to it works well.
psteve
01-31-2008, 03:57 PM
Hair color is meaningless.
What you are looking for looks like little clear mushrooms.
Then they'll turn cloudy, then they will start to turn amber.
That's when I harvest.
muddywaters
01-31-2008, 04:06 PM
ya, maybe a pic will help you out.
my cam doesn't do macro that well but here's a pic. the hairs are the long drown things the bud is the purple veg and the leafs are the green things.
the trich's are the things all over.
[IMG=http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7493/nlxshivajv8.th.jpg] (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nlxshivajv8.jpg)
psteve
01-31-2008, 04:27 PM
the trich's are the things all over.
Correct.
If you look at them through the scope at 70 power, you should see the mushroom shapes, and color.
They will always look white to the naked eye.
Be sure to check trich's under fluorescent or metal halide light, not under HPS. The color of the HPS light can disguise the amber trich's and fool you into waiting longer than necessary.
PlantHeadJ
01-31-2008, 04:33 PM
Hey take it from me, post everything you can about your system, timeline and everything you've done. The experience here can help you A LOT if you provide info..pics too. Just trying to help.
Stinky posted a form that may help you now let me find the link...
De7406
01-31-2008, 04:35 PM
are they alwasy mushroom shaped or do they mushroom up later in flowering
psteve
01-31-2008, 04:37 PM
are they alwasy mushroom shaped or do they mushroom up later in floweringThey are always more or less mushroom shaped, with the heads getting larger as time goes by and the weed gets stronger.
Dutch Pimp
01-31-2008, 04:39 PM
:)...Text (http://cannabis.com/growing/curing-what-are-trichomes-trichome-101.html)
De7406
02-01-2008, 08:19 PM
i noticed that my trichs dont look like the ones in the pictures, the stipe cell part starts thicker on the bottom and slims down towards the top, and the heads havent really swollen too much... what does this tell me, and how often should i look at them.
thanks
De7406
02-02-2008, 05:10 PM
nobody's looking at my thread any more =/
psteve
02-02-2008, 05:41 PM
i noticed that my trichs dont look like the ones in the pictures, the stipe cell part starts thicker on the bottom and slims down towards the top, and the heads havent really swollen too much... what does this tell me, and how often should i look at them.
thanksIt tells you one of two things.
Either your trichs are not fully developed (either due to not enough time yet, or not enough light), or, the strain you are growing isn't very vigorous.
I check my trichs every time I water.
De7406
02-02-2008, 06:01 PM
well i have 2 150w cfls and 1 100w cfl on a like 14" plant, sufficient?
if i checked them once a week thats not enough time for anything drastic to happen right?
aprieciate your replies.
psteve
02-02-2008, 06:27 PM
Is that the actual wattage? Or the 'equivalent' wattage?
And how big is your space?
De7406
02-02-2008, 07:10 PM
thats what its equal 2, the space is 25" X25"x 14" deep
psteve
02-03-2008, 01:38 AM
thats what its equal 2, the space is 25" X25"x 14" deep
Then you're only running about +/- 100 actual watts, so no. You need more light. About double actually.
Equivalent watts are meaningless. It's only the real watts that count. ;)
De7406
02-03-2008, 07:03 PM
oo, good to know, the only thing is the house im in scares the shit out of me when it comes to fire hazards, if i was to double the light would that be a big load of electricity? maybe something it'd be equivilent to would help.
De7406
02-03-2008, 08:49 PM
also i was planning to do 5 verysmall plants next grow, how much light would be recommended for this?
psteve
02-03-2008, 09:45 PM
The general rule of thumb is, use more than 50 watts per square foot of canopy.
When using all CFL's, it's more like 70 watts per square foot.
I wouldn't worry about fire hazards until you're using more than 250 actual watts.
De7406
02-03-2008, 10:22 PM
alright, much apreciated...
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