Does the Certo method work? (Urgent)

[T bag]

I know this has been discussed on here before but i need fresh answers. i was told by a man claiming to be a forensic scientist who said certo along with asperin and vitamin b12 will gaurentee a pass on a urine test for pot. i havnt smoked in 24 hours, my test is tomorrow at 6 pm. do you think this method will work and why:

take 1 certo with bottle og gatorade 2 hrs prior to test with 2 asprin and 2 b12, drink bottle of water

1 hour before test repeat process. by now you'll have to piss bad. pee 3 times, drinking 8 oz of water after each piss and go to your test. give them a sample mid-stream and you should be fine.

[killerweed420]

Here I did your job for you this time.Next try the search. This is from the master of all that he surveys FBR.He does his momework.
C/P
WOW!!!

That is one of the most insane things I have ever read here.

Have you had any classes in biology and if you did were you paying attention in them?

Why would you think THC is stored in your stomach? Let me repeat that. Why would you think THC is stored in your stomach? Why would you think Certo creates a barrier in your stomach? Why would you think things go from your stomach straight into your urine? Think about what you just wrote and honestly tell me if any of that makes sense. Certo doesn't coat anything, not your stomach, not your blood vessels, not your kidneys, not your bladder, nothing. To think things enter your body and go through it untouched shows how horrible this explanation is on how you passed. Furthermore, to try to tell people this explanation is even worse because their freedom, jobs, or child may depend on passing a drug test.

I have done my research on Certo though and this is what I have found. Those that have passed usually are also diluting at the same time they take the certo. Many will mix it into a bottle of gatorade then fill the bottle with water and drink it down, which ends up being about the fluid amount used in dilution. Certo can also have a slight diuretic effect. Finally, certo contains fruit pectin, which is a form of soluble fiber. I have called the makers of certo, which I think is Kraft, and asked them how much soluble fiber is in a box of certo. All they can tell me is that it has soluble fiber in the form of pectin but they don't know how much (at least the operators for the 800 number didn't have access to that info). In fact, I think the product code is this: 4300029320. See, on the box it says less than 1 gram per serving but there are 64 servings in a box. So that could be anywhere from nearly 0 to almost 64 grams. Why is soluble fiber important. Your body eliminates most THC metabolites through renal and hepatic elimination (BenDover, that would be your kidneys and liver). Hepatic elimination results in THC metabolites excreted through your feces. Soluble fiber can help prevent these metabolites from being reabsorbed from your feces back into your body. Next, soluble fiber removes bile from your intestine. Your body must then replace the bile so your body pulls cholesterol from the blood to make bile. This process can help make more THC metabolites available for elimination by the liver and less metabolites available for elimination by the kidneys thus less in the urine.

So, most people who pass using certo are passing because they are diluting and adding fiber to the dilution process.

I would like for Kraft to tell me exactly how much fiber is in a box of certo but until then, I continue to recommend Metamucil because that is a good source of soluble fiber and I know how much fiber is in it per serving.

Still, better yet, forget smoking while on probation and substitute for your employment tests.

With your low post count and a post filled with incorrect info on human physiology, I hope people will understand the saying "consider the source" and not depend on your method to pass. Ballons, barriers, not touching your stomach walls, what a load of shit.

Naming this thread pass every time when you post such poor information on how the human body works is completely irresponsible.
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[Burnt Toast]

Fresh or not, the answer remains the same:

Certo is a myth! It plays no role in testing negative for THC!

[BUDSHOTS]

I like the WIZZENATOR 3000! or ...URINE LUCK. thats the name urine luck

[Burnt Toast]

I like the WIZZENATOR 3000! or ...URINE LUCK. thats the name urine luck By this, do you mean the Quick Fix? The Quick Fix and the Urineluck are two entirely different products manufactured by Spectrum Labs. The QF is the synthetic urine while the UL is a drop-in additive used to spike a dirty urine sample. The QF will work on any drug test and is not detectable when stored properly. The UL additive will not work on instant-type screens and is often detected when the lab runs a specimen integrity check on the sample.

Hope that helps some
:smokin:

[jeffman]

By this, do you mean the Quick Fix? The Quick Fix and the Urineluck are two entirely different products manufactured by Spectrum Labs. The QF is the synthetic urine while the UL is a drop-in additive used to spike a dirty urine sample. The QF will work on any drug test and is not detectable when stored properly. The UL additive will not work on instant-type screens and is often detected when the lab runs a specimen integrity check on the sample. Hope that helps some:smokin:

Very nice BT, I couldn't have said it any better..:smokin:..:stoned:

[Nikki420]

I havent heard it done that way, but just got back from a drug test and I passed. I woke up this morning and smoked. Then at about 2 I drank ONE packet of Certo mixed into a glass of water. It tastes really sweet but has NO flavor so this was not a plesant experiance. After that I drank about a half a gallon of water and peed 3 times between drinking the Certo and taking my test. I passed and I got the job. I know for sure that if I had just drank the water that this would have a different ending, I dont know why Certo works. But it seems to. But dont drink 2 packets of it, its rough enough on your stomach!

[Burnt Toast]

I know for sure that if I had just drank the water that this would have a different ending, I dont know why Certo works.And what makes you think that there would be a different ending, especially since you dont know why Certo works? :rolleyes:

[Burnt Toast]

Then at about 2 I drank ONE packet of Certo mixed into a glass of water. It tastes really sweet but has NO flavor so this was not a plesant experiance. After that I drank about a half a gallon of water and peed 3 times between drinking the Certo and taking my test. I passed and I got the job. I know for sure that if I had just drank the water that this would have a different ending, I dont know why Certo works. But it seems to. Youre merely assuming that Certo was the reason for you passing. An assumption based on others trying to keep an ancient, debunked internet myth alive. :rolleyes:
It obviously hasnt occurred to you that the copius amounts of water you drank (which in effect, diluted the THCA concentration in your urine to where the sample registered below the cutoff thresholds of the drug screen) was the actual hero.

[webdox]

I know for sure that if I had just drank the water that this would have a different ending, I dont know why Certo works. But it seems to. But dont drink 2 packets of it, its rough enough on your stomach!

Nonsense, you DON'T know this for sure so hush. Stop perpetuating this myth.

[Flstudio4512]

I read a post about a whole debate where they insisted water was the only factor but some chick (i think) used only 16 oz of water ( far from the usual amount used in the dilution technique) and pectin and she passed. Its somewhere in the forum i know yall insist theres no scientific proof but for whatever reason it worked with only 16 oz of water

[webdox]

I read a post about a whole debate where they insisted water was the only factor but some chick (i think) used only 16 oz of water ( far from the usual amount used in the dilution technique) and pectin and she passed. Its somewhere in the forum i know yall insist theres no scientific proof but for whatever reason it worked with only 16 oz of water

There is no proof that she wouldn't have passed drinking only 8 or drinking no oz of water. It's anecdotal. Knowing physiology and what pectin doesn't do (like coat the bladder, filter anything, mask anything) will always trump these random stories.

[gabec803]

so if it's possible to just drink alot of water and pass a test what was the point in starting an internet myth about certo in the first place?

doesn't make much sense to me. Even if it's just the fiber in CERTO that helps it's still CERTO that helped pass the test, along with drinking water etc.

[webdox]

Just because you don't understand how something came to be doesn't give it any credence. Again, certo/pectin does nothing to help you pass a drug test.

[Burnt Toast]

so if it's possible to just drink alot of water and pass a test what was the point in starting an internet myth about certo in the first place? Gee..that question has been directed towards the Pectin pushers many many times..:rolleyes:
My guess is that they have nothing else to do with their time.




doesn't make much sense to me. Even if it's just the fiber in CERTO that helps it's still CERTO that helped pass the test, along with drinking water etc. As pointed out in FBRs post, the amount of soluble fiber in a box of pectin is not known. Therefore, you cannot correctly conclude whether the fiber content in Pectin played a role in passing the test or not.

[daytimer69]

Does for me EVERY TIME. I even drank less water and did not eat anything greasy and still passed

[Burnt Toast]

Does for me EVERY TIME. I even drank less water and did not eat anything greasy and still passedAgain, youre merely assuming that the Certo was the reason for you passing. Just because B happened doesnt mean A caused it.
If you painted your toenails purple and passed the test, would you logically conclude that painting your toenails purple will cause a person to pass a U/A? :rolleyes:

[webdox]

Does for me EVERY TIME. I even drank less water and did not eat anything greasy and still passed

It's a huge logical fallacy to assume that correlation proves causation. Cum hoc ergo propter hoc. Anecdotal stories are evidence of nothing and science will always trump these urban myths.

Again, Certo did nothing to help you pass any drug test you or anyone else has ever taken. I honestly don't know why people go to such great lengths to keep this myth alive.

[smokeymonster11]

dude let everyone know how your test goes! the best way for us to find out answers to our questions is by sharing our successes and failures! hope the test goes well!!

[planetjanetem]

I used Certo brand fruit pectin and Niacin to clean out my ex for probation tests. It worked every time. You double the amount recommended on the bottle of Niacin and use 1 package of certo per 8 oz glass of water at least 2 hours before the test and another package 1 hour before the test.
Thank God we weren't scientists trying to figure out why or why not..

Also...the average person is supposed to drink six 8 oz glasses of water daily.
Hardly anyone does. If you did drink that much water and cut out the things that make you dehydrated like soda and caffeine it'd be easier to clean out quicker. Pot is a fat soluble drug so it stores in your liver.
If you're dedicated to the six 8 oz's of water put about 2 teaspoons of Apple Cider Vinegar in one of the glasses. It'll help. Make sure you mix it very well before drinking it.

[Burnt Toast]

I used Certo brand fruit pectin and Niacin to clean out my ex for probation tests. It worked every time. You double the amount recommended on the bottle of Niacin and use 1 package of certo per 8 oz glass of water at least 2 hours before the test and another package 1 hour before the test.
Thank God we weren't scientists trying to figure out why or why not..

Also...the average person is supposed to drink six 8 oz glasses of water daily.
Hardly anyone does. If you did drink that much water and cut out the things that make you dehydrated like soda and caffeine it'd be easier to clean out quicker. Pot is a fat soluble drug so it stores in your liver.
If you're dedicated to the six 8 oz's of water put about 2 teaspoons of Apple Cider Vinegar in one of the glasses. It'll help. Make sure you mix it very well before drinking it. Again for the gazillionth time, youve passed because youve diluted the THCA concentration in your bladder with all the fluids youve drank. The Certo, vinegar and niacin had nothing to do with you passing, so stop perpetuating the myth.

[webdox]

Thank God we weren't scientists trying to figure out why or why not.

It's a good thing you aren't or you'd know just how patently ridiculous the claims are that certo/pectin/niacin does jack when it comes to helping one pass a drug test.

[sammyacw]

I think its amazing how rude your reply was. Just so you know... not everybody lives in the science world and took A&P or any bio courses for that matter. If you feel the need to share your findings there is no reason to insult people that believe that certo works. Most of them just hear from a friend. Also, probation sucks. Dont need anybody making you feel worse for mistakes you made. Not your place to add insult to injury. I can understand why some people on probation want to smoke weed. I am a biology major and I think its awesome that you took the time to do the "research" but no need to be little anybody. Thanks for the info.

Really.... if you want to pass a UA test..... dont smoke 5 days prior and night before and morning of drink lots of water.... that will do it. no biggie. (The time does depend on your metabolic rate) 2-3 weeks is very safe. Time is really the only way to be positive you will pass. I dont feel the need to site my sources. lol just friendly advice.



Here I did your job for you this time.Next try the search. This is from the master of all that he surveys FBR.He does his momework.
C/P
WOW!!!

That is one of the most insane things I have ever read here.

Have you had any classes in biology and if you did were you paying attention in them?

Why would you think THC is stored in your stomach? Let me repeat that. Why would you think THC is stored in your stomach? Why would you think Certo creates a barrier in your stomach? Why would you think things go from your stomach straight into your urine? Think about what you just wrote and honestly tell me if any of that makes sense. Certo doesn't coat anything, not your stomach, not your blood vessels, not your kidneys, not your bladder, nothing. To think things enter your body and go through it untouched shows how horrible this explanation is on how you passed. Furthermore, to try to tell people this explanation is even worse because their freedom, jobs, or child may depend on passing a drug test.

I have done my research on Certo though and this is what I have found. Those that have passed usually are also diluting at the same time they take the certo. Many will mix it into a bottle of gatorade then fill the bottle with water and drink it down, which ends up being about the fluid amount used in dilution. Certo can also have a slight diuretic effect. Finally, certo contains fruit pectin, which is a form of soluble fiber. I have called the makers of certo, which I think is Kraft, and asked them how much soluble fiber is in a box of certo. All they can tell me is that it has soluble fiber in the form of pectin but they don't know how much (at least the operators for the 800 number didn't have access to that info). In fact, I think the product code is this: 4300029320. See, on the box it says less than 1 gram per serving but there are 64 servings in a box. So that could be anywhere from nearly 0 to almost 64 grams. Why is soluble fiber important. Your body eliminates most THC metabolites through renal and hepatic elimination (BenDover, that would be your kidneys and liver). Hepatic elimination results in THC metabolites excreted through your feces. Soluble fiber can help prevent these metabolites from being reabsorbed from your feces back into your body. Next, soluble fiber removes bile from your intestine. Your body must then replace the bile so your body pulls cholesterol from the blood to make bile. This process can help make more THC metabolites available for elimination by the liver and less metabolites available for elimination by the kidneys thus less in the urine.

So, most people who pass using certo are passing because they are diluting and adding fiber to the dilution process.

I would like for Kraft to tell me exactly how much fiber is in a box of certo but until then, I continue to recommend Metamucil because that is a good source of soluble fiber and I know how much fiber is in it per serving.

Still, better yet, forget smoking while on probation and substitute for your employment tests.

With your low post count and a post filled with incorrect info on human physiology, I hope people will understand the saying "consider the source" and not depend on your method to pass. Ballons, barriers, not touching your stomach walls, what a load of shit.

Naming this thread pass every time when you post such poor information on how the human body works is completely irresponsible.
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[Burnt Toast]

I think its amazing how rude your reply was. Just so you know... not everybody lives in the science world and took A&P or any bio courses for that matter. If you feel the need to share your findings there is no reason to insult people that believe that certo works. Theres nothing insulting or rude in FBRs post that was C&P'd by KW. FBR had pointed out the misinfo and did a darn good job of it.
Just so that you know, we prefer to stick with factual info in the drug testing forum. Thats because theres people with careers, families and freedoms riding on the outcome of a U/A. The drug testing forum is not a playground. Misinformation can quickly land an uninformed reader in the unemployment line, or worse, jail. If you dont like the idea that we hold the poster to a high standard of fact, well sorry. Thats how it is here and shall remain. And if that idea is not your cup of tea, then perhaps the drug testing forum is not for you.

[webdox]

I think its amazing how rude your reply was. Just so you know... not everybody lives in the science world and took A&P or any bio courses for that matter. If you feel the need to share your findings there is no reason to insult people that believe that certo works.

When lives, jobs, freedoms are on the line, it's a little more important to stick to facts than worrying about offending those giving anecdotal evidence as proof of anything. Once it has been pointed out just how wrong it is and it continues, it becomes irresponsible.

[GloryDayReject]

How about this...
I stopped smoking about 2 weeks ago. my drug test is on december 7th. I took a test yesterday and I am still very full of thc. Im 5'6" and i weigh about 160, so average. Ive been drinking water like crazy but kind of slowed down recently. So drinking water doesnt really help, especially if you smoke about a week before. Last time it took me about 5 weeks total for it to be out of my system. my friend recommended certo, so what im going to do is drink it, wait a bit, and take a test. if i pass, certo works, if i dont, then its a myth. Will that solve the debate?

[Jerry G]

Nope, you still drink a chitload of water day of...

[GloryDayReject]

I can drink enough to drown my cells, it still wont make me pass. Im joining the navy and im still nervous. if it was that easy i wouldnt be on this site

[webdox]

Will that solve the debate?

Nope. You will still have diluted. It doesn't matter if you drink water with certo with it or with Tang. It's still just dilution.

[Burnt Toast]

I stopped smoking about 2 weeks ago. my drug test is on december 7th. I took a test yesterday and I am still very full of thc. Im 5'6" and i weigh about 160, so average. Ive been drinking water like crazy but kind of slowed down recently. So drinking water doesnt really help, especially if you smoke about a week before.

I can drink enough to drown my cells, it still wont make me pass. Thats because youve been drinking water days before the test, which is of no help. Drinking fluids is only good for the day of the test.
THC is fat-soluble and not water soluble, so you cannot wash THC from your fat cells like you can was dirt from a car. The purpose of drinking fluids is to dilute (thin out) the THCA concentration that is present in the bladder. The idea is to thin out the concentration enough for the urine sample to register below the cutoff thresholds of the drug screen. You are not permanently ridding the body of THC. Dilution techniques (whether its with Pectin, magic detox drinks, etc) are only temporary - once the fluids consumed had all been urinated out, a "dirty" donor will resume testing positive for THC.

There is nothing that can permanently rid the body of THC except for time and fat-burning exercise.

[Jerry G]

I can drink enough to drown my cells, it still wont make me pass. Im joining the navy and im still nervous. if it was that easy i wouldnt be on this site


You don't seem to get how dilution works and how to use it to successfully pass a UA...

It ain't brain surgery...

[GloryDayReject]

Drinking a lot of fluids helps speed it up but i dont have that kind of time

[Jerry G]

Drinking a lot of fluids helps speed it up but i dont have that kind of time

That's not how it works...

[Burnt Toast]

Drinking a lot of fluids helps speed it up but i dont have that kind of time Apparently youve failed to read and understand what Ive stated in my post above:


THC is fat-soluble and not water soluble, so you cannot wash THC from your fat cells like you can was dirt from a car. The purpose of drinking fluids is to dilute (thin out) the THCA concentration that is present in the bladder. The idea is to thin out the concentration enough for the urine sample to register below the cutoff thresholds of the drug screen. You are not permanently ridding the body of THC. Dilution techniques (whether its with Pectin, magic detox drinks, etc) are only temporary - once the fluids consumed had all been urinated out, a "dirty" donor will resume testing positive for THC.

[GloryDayReject]

Okay then, ill drink a gallon of water and nothing else and take a piss test after peeing like 3 times. guaranteed Ill still fail

[Deige]

Okay then, ill drink a gallon of water and nothing else and take a piss test after peeing like 3 times. guaranteed Ill still fail

Why don't you just read the Dilution thread and follow the routine. It's really simple and you can take back the Detox drink and spend that money on weed.

[Jerry G]

Okay then, ill drink a gallon of water and nothing else and take a piss test after peeing like 3 times. guaranteed Ill still fail

You will probably fail with any dilution method...

You should substitute...

[GloryDayReject]

I'm going to try anything I can. I also heard they make shit that you use to clean out bongs and bowls, but you can drink it at your own risk. I just need to be clean in about 1-2 weeks. It fucken sucks

[Jerry G]

Really, in the time frame you have, you will fail no matter what you drink.

Just study up on substitution. Reports from several west coast states indicate that there may be issues with most synthetic urine on the market right now. You just need to obtain clean urine from a friend(male or female).

Several very knowlegable people are trying to help you. Do yourself a favor and let us.

[Jerry G]

On further thought, unless you are in Hawaii or Oregon, I'd be good using synthetic...

[Burnt Toast]

Okay then, ill drink a gallon of water and nothing else and take a piss test after peeing like 3 times. guaranteed Ill still fail If thats truly the case, then you would fail if you drank a gallon of certo/water cocktail, considering that certo "works" because of the dilution factor.


I also heard they make shit that you use to clean out bongs and bowls, but you can drink it at your own risk. There is no product that can rid the body of THC. Drug tests look at drug metabolites - not residues, especially the type of residues found in bowls and bongs. Two different pair of shoes dude.

As I stated earlier, only time and exercise can permanently rid the body of THC.

[GloryDayReject]

Well, fuck...
I have to pee in front of someone, theres no way I can even fake it

[anitajay]

Again for the gazillionth time, youve passed because youve diluted the THCA concentration in your bladder with all the fluids youve drank. The Certo, vinegar and niacin had nothing to do with you passing, so stop perpetuating the myth.

You can't keep saying that it was the water if we can't say that it was the certo. You keep saying that we have no scientific proof to prove the certo...but i think more people here have stories about certo working than only water.

[Burnt Toast]

You can't keep saying that it was the water if we can't say that it was the certo. Care to explain why not?

This goes back to the question I had previously asked in this thread: What if youve painted your toenails purple before taking a U/A and passed? Would you sit there and illogically conclude that the painting of your toenails purple was responsible for passing and that everyone should start painting their toenails purple now? :rolleyes:




You keep saying that we have no scientific proof to prove the certo...but i think more people here have stories about certo working than only water. Keyword: stories. Nothing but anecdotes. To quote Rhizome: "Multiple pieces of anecdotal evidence do not equal scientific fact."

[webdox]

You can't keep saying that it was the water if we can't say that it was the certo. You keep saying that we have no scientific proof to prove the certo...but i think more people here have stories about certo working than only water.

You are 100% wrong. It HAS been proven that certo does not do what people claim it does and does NOTHING to help you pass a drug test regardless of whether you grasp that or not. If you care to use the search button you'll read why.

[braddaddy8100]

My understanding is that certo is a gel or a coagulant which draws out the THC in your bladder helping to thin in out. I am not sure if this is correct, anyone have any idea if this is correct and please don't call me stupid and ask me to think about what I just said.

[Burnt Toast]

My understanding is that certo is a gel or a coagulant which draws out the THC in your bladder helping to thin in out. I am not sure if this is correct, anyone have any idea if this is correct and please don't call me stupid and ask me to think about what I just said. No, I won't call you any names because its against the rules to do so. But I will ask you to think about what youve just said. And give your understanding of the matter a little "going over".

Whats not occurring to your understanding is that the "thinning out" of the THCA concentration in the bladder is the result of the copius amounts of water/fluids consumed - which would be accomplished by itself without the certo thrown in the mix.

THCA metabolites are deposited in the bladder by the kidneys after being filtered from the bloodstream. So those claims of the certo "drawing out the THC" are not only ludicrously explained, but dont hold to not even a cup of water, or a pound of air.

Go back and re-read post #30.