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danielLOSERFACE
02-15-2005, 11:59 PM
my friend.. just bought a KILO-freakin-GRAM of salvia.
i cannot wait to take this, im planning on the chewing method.
it sure seems like a fun substance to take, but i had a question.
does it make your body feel good?? all the trip reports i hear from it usualy talk about euphoria. now.. im not exactaly sure what that is. im pretty sure its just complete bliss. right?? well.. ive studied the stuff extensively. i seriously am counting the days. should be here by thursday or friday.

Encatuse
02-16-2005, 04:23 AM
You haven't studied it extensively obviously. ^.^ Sorry man, but 99% chance that the kilo is not going to do shit for you. The idea is to make extract out of it. Euphoria is bliss.. and that's not at all the usual effect of salvia. It's occasionally one of the many though. You are going to be massively disappointed. He probably paid like 100+ for the kilo too. Unless you guys have the means ((it's not too hard)) to make extract, then you're kinda screwed. Anyway, I'll shorten what I'm saying

A kilo of plain leaf won't do shit for you most likely

Don't count the days man, it's a waste of time and you'll be disappointed

Salvia, the extracts, make you TRIP. Sometime euphoria comes with that, rarely.

Most people don't like Salvia.

Very few people consider it a "fun substance to take"

Using the chewing method with plain leaf will likely do even less then smoking plain-leaf.

www.sagewisdom.com

www.erowid.org

XTC
02-16-2005, 04:40 AM
Ya dude you have to use the Extract to trip. When I smoked Salvia, I wouldnt really call it Europhia. I would call it. What the Hell is happening and where am I? Who am I Do I even exist? Will this ever stop? I tell you one of the Salvia trips in short. Smoke it. became part of my buddy's carpet. Swallowed by a hole that was eating up time and everything else. Viewed my body in a third person view getting bursted into bubbles. But since I am assuming you have plain leaf. You might get a mild feeling of euphoria. All this during when my rat bastard psyhotic friend was playing-- "The End" by the Doors.

Brokedown Palace
02-16-2005, 04:02 PM
Yeah the plain leaf doesn't really do anything. If I were you, I would buy a gram or so each of 5x, 10x and maybe 20x Extract, each one more intense than the previous.

I liked salvia, and I want some 20x sometime soon.

For the 15 minutes you're tripping, you have no idea where you are or what you're doing for the most part. You have no idea you just smoked salvia.

The best salvia "trip" for me, was when i smoked it in my friends room, and then his dotted wallpaper was spinning around the room, and on my friends face and whatnot. I closed my eyes aand was lost in my own "dream world" if you will.

Crazy. The aftereffects are, you just feel a bit heavy and maybe "stoned". Well not realy, its hard to explain.

juggalo420
02-16-2005, 04:13 PM
leaf could work youll just have to get a bong ready and smoke a shit load of it, i dont know if this is scientific but heres my theory take 15-30 bong rips of the plain leaf and it should give you the equivallant of smoking a rip or two of salvia 15 extract.

Brokedown Palace
02-16-2005, 04:14 PM
That's probably right, but thats more work than its worth. Just get some 10x extract and go from there.

Dick Justice
02-16-2005, 07:08 PM
I wouldn't say it's absolutely useless, just not very useful. As everyone's already said, euphoria isn't a guarantee, nor even a very common effect. I think with a kilo of leaf you've still got the potential for some hardcore tripping, but you'll end up doing a lot of smoking before you reach that point.

If I were you, I'd make it into extract or sell it to make money to buy extract.

Buck268
02-16-2005, 08:02 PM
Ya dude you have to use the Extract to trip. When I smoked Salvia, I wouldnt really call it Europhia. I would call it. What the Hell is happening and where am I? Who am I Do I even exist? Will this ever stop? I tell you one of the Salvia trips in short. Smoke it. became part of my buddy's carpet. Swallowed by a hole that was eating up time and everything else. Viewed my body in a third person view getting bursted into bubbles. But since I am assuming you have plain leaf. You might get a mild feeling of euphoria. All this during when my rat bastard psyhotic friend was playing-- "The End" by the Doors.


Ate a bunch of shrooms on a totally empty stomach once, maybe 4 grams... They kicked in all was FUCKING SWEET until that song came on (The End)... Then all hell broke loose... Scariest trip i've ever had :eek:

danielLOSERFACE
02-16-2005, 08:21 PM
really?? on sagewisdom and.. really every other trip report ive read. they say this shit will do the trick. inhaling three MASSIVEhits and holding them for 20-30 seconds with a butane lighter works they say. also.. the quid has to work, cos im damn sure noones gonna make a quid with extract.

XTC
02-16-2005, 09:03 PM
I have known people who smoke plain leaf. They said it didnt do much. Like we all said before. Extract is the way to go.

Dick Justice
02-16-2005, 09:25 PM
Wait a minute. What do the Mexican tribal guys do? Do they chew like fifteen leaves at a time, or what? Cause whatever they do must work.

llamaman666
02-16-2005, 10:52 PM
smoking is better, and use a bubbler or bong cuz its harsh, smoke it and keep it in your lungs for like 20 seconds a hit and a boal will get you going. It is NOT a party drug or really that fun if your with people, do it alone.

Climbing High
02-17-2005, 12:46 AM
instead of 3 hits of the leaf man, if you want to actually tripp try more like 15 massive hits, all held in 20 seconds, with a butane lighte on the leaf the entire time you inhale. make sure to take them consecutively. or just buy some extract, oh yea and quids dont do SHIT. ive tried it before, i went through about an ounce and didnt even feel a little stoned.

Encatuse
02-17-2005, 01:44 AM
leaf could work youll just have to get a bong ready and smoke a shit load of it, i dont know if this is scientific but heres my theory take 15-30 bong rips of the plain leaf and it should give you the equivallant of smoking a rip or two of salvia 15 extract.

I don't know anyone who can take 15-30 bong rips in the two minutes the salvinorin will metabolize in. ^.^

Edit: And the quid method sucks. Booo Quid method. Sure Oaxacan mexican's do it.. but they do it while they're working. There's a big hint on if it makes em trip or anything.

Make an extract. It's not hard. Otherwise, I assure you, the kilo is essentially useless. I have just under 2 pounds of plain leaf sitting in my drawer.

sugarmagnolia
02-17-2005, 01:46 AM
roll the leaves into a tight little ball. and put so much pressure that it all fits in a bong bowl. then u will have the harshest hits in the world.

juggalo420
02-17-2005, 02:55 AM
I don't know anyone who can take 15-30 bong rips in the two minutes the salvinorin will metabolize in. ^.^

Edit: And the quid method sucks. Booo Quid method. Sure Oaxacan mexican's do it.. but they do it while they're working. There's a big hint on if it makes em trip or anything.

Make an extract. It's not hard. Otherwise, I assure you, the kilo is essentially useless. I have just under 2 pounds of plain leaf sitting in my drawer.
if your not gonna use it send me a pound ill give like $10

thcbongman
02-17-2005, 03:55 AM
I don't see the point of getting a kilo of salvia leaf other than to make extract! Yea it isn't that hard, my friend did with relative ease.

You shouldn't buy a lot of stuff doing it your friend time. You should've gotten a gram of 5-10x extract.

danielLOSERFACE
02-17-2005, 04:02 AM
so how do i make the extract??
ive looked but theres all these different ways.
really, if wrost comes to worst, ill jsut soak it in 100 proof and let it sit for a few days. then use that.

Encatuse
02-17-2005, 04:22 AM
Jugg - Naw man. Ill make extract when I need it. ^.^ I've got like 10 grams of 23x home-made and abunch of non-homemade I got from salvia-world.