The Daily Grow w/ Bud Fullotrichs

[basementbotany]

Ok, so i am new to the forum, and also new to the grow scene. I came across a 400w deep well MH lamp (cieling type) about 4 weeks back and decided i would put it to some use. I germ. about 10 seeds and 4 of them sprouted. I placed them in some soil until they got to be about 3-4 inches tall. Over that 2 week period of seedling time i gathered up supplies and built myself an ebb n flow table. I transplanted the soil plants into the ebb n flow and they seem to love it. Nice lush green, except for a little light burn, as i had them within 12" of the light the first few days, now raised up to 20" and doing good. Yesterday i topped 2 of the 4 plants and have seen very little, if any growth today. I have my res. mixed to half strenght nutes except for B1 Red i have mixed at full strenght. Pump kicks on for 15 mins. every 4 hours; takes 5 mins to drain, so a total of 20 mins. 6 times a day. (too much?) My plants have been vegging for about 14 days and have spent 4 days in e&f. I have multiple questions, so please bare with me here.

1. When should i expect growth to pick back up from the transplant and the topping, all being done within a 4 day period?

2. I'm using Technaflora brand nutes, should i just follow their grow chart for nute mixes, or should i go with half of what their grow chart recommends?

3. I have no EC meter, how important is this to have? I do have a pH test kit, pH seems to be around 6-6.5 constantly, good or not?

4. I'm 2 weeks into total veg. and plants are about 4" tall and about 10" in diameter (sorry no pics, maybe sometime soon) how long should i wait to sex them? 8"-12" seems like the norm for everyone in this forum.

5. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH MY FIRST GROW IF I DON'T HAVE PICS TO PROVIDE? I need to be someones uderstudy as i don't want to completely f*ck my first real grow up.

I am willing to do any and everything to get this right, except for shelling out a whole shitload of cash right now as i am currently laid off for part of the winter. I have no C02, no exhaust, only circulating fan in room with door open. have 4'x2' e&f. how many plants can i take on with this set up and still bring me about 4-5 oz. a month. Just need to supply my wife and i between each grow, no selling for me, so i want the best that my wife and i can grow with this set up. The seeds were supposedly "cali bud" per my gangster wanna be little pot shuffling cousin. I do know they are very dom. indicas b/c the fan leaves are very big. PLEASE HELP!!!! i will provide pics in the next few weeks.

[basementbotany]

4-5 oz. every 2 months i mean. not every month

[basementbotany]

Ya know, I thought since we were all into the same thing, I might get a little bit of help, guess I just need to do trial and error and risk losing my first crop. Thanks to all you viewers who "thought" about helping me.

[basementbotany]

Finally, got some up, any suggestions, i know i need a cover for my tray, getting that tonight.<a href="http://www.cannabis.com/"><img src="http://www.cannabis.com/files/photos/eefc9e10ebdc4a2L.jpg" border="0" width="2048" alt="New fella needs help" /></a>

[MVP]

If you are doing hydro, you REALLY should get a PPM meter. I got a cheap one on eBay and it makes a helluva difference. It was like driving at night without headlights, then I bought the meter and the headlights came on...

[basementbotany]

MVP, thanks for the reply, i will try to invest in one, i may not be able to do it this grow, but we'll see how the funds are in a few weeks or so. is there anyway you can help me upload these pics, can't seem to figure it out for some reason

[MVP]

This is the one I bought. HANNA Primo TDS Meter, PPM Tester, Conductivity - eBay (item 300188785269 end time Jan-18-08 00:25:36 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/HANNA-Primo-TDS-Meter-PPM-Tester-Conductivity_W0QQitemZ300188785269QQihZ020QQcatego ryZ42291QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem) It was worth every penny of the 20 bucks I spent. If it were me I would skip lunch a couple of days to save the cash to buy it, that is how important it is to have in hydro.

As far as uploading pics, start your post/message in Advanced Mode, click on the paperclip thingee in the toolbar/menu, and then attach the pics from your PC. Click upload, wait til it says upload completed, then shut the window.

Good luck, would like to see the pics....

[basementbotany]

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[basementbotany]

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[basementbotany]

guess i still can't seem to figure it out, OH WELL, i give up! but, there's a pic

[MVP]

Is this the one?

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At least I got to see it thru the link above...

[MVP]

I am not skilled in Ebb/Flow, but you might be feeding them a bit too much for their age. I would go for 1/2 strength nute and 4x daily feeding until I got to see consistent growth and made sure I wasn't pushing them too much.

The key is to know the PPM so you can dial it back slightly when needed, rather than just mixing to the directions on the package. One size does NOT fit all due to strain/nute uptake differences. Get that cheapie PPM meter and your plants will thank you for it in 60-90 days...

[basementbotany]

ok, i am already feeding them half strenghth nutes, but i am feeding them 6x a day. that is one plant, there is another link up there where you can see all of them. i believe i put all of them through too much shock by transplanting them, but i would have guessed that the growth would have picked up considerably by now. i guess i will get that ppm meter when i can. thanks for helping me, please stay tuned, i will keep updated, also, i am going to turn my timer so that they only get fed 4x a day like you said.

[basementbotany]

i believe that 4x a day feeding sched. has already had an effect for the better on my plants, they already seemed to be a little more perky, leaves don't look like they're drowning within themselves now, so i'm pretty happy about that. thx for the good advice MVP, glad to know i have someone here when i have questions.

[MVP]

No prob amigo. Just be gentle with them until they start filling out. You don't wanna drown them in affection (or nutes :D).

Also play around with the Posting Pictures thing until you get it figured out. Read the site and search on posting pics using the google method (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-lounge/141983-please-read-google-search-before-posting-question.html). You'll get a lot better input from the knowledgable folks here when you provide photos to examine.

MVP :jointsmile:

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

I am not a hydro grower but I see you have a 4'x2' space, you should be able to get 4 to 6 good sized females in there producing 2 min 4 max ozs. per plant.
I suggest reading up on cloning so to cut out growing males and get the max out of your space.

[basementbotany]

i already have 7 clones going in the cloner. been there for about 12 days now and only have 3 of them just starting to root. not sure of strain. the only reason i am growing these seeds out is b/c i have been told they are "cali orange". so instead of having to fork the money over to buy seeds, just figure i would grow these out and see what i come up with. i do know that the bud was pretty descent from these seeds, so i have my fingers crossed. btw, thanks for the reply Jerry G, i am definately going to keep updated, probably do a week by week pic update once i figure this forum out.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

I am not a hydro grower but I see you have a 4'x2' space, you should be able to get 4 to 6 good sized females in there producing 2 min 4 max ozs. per plant.
I suggest reading up on cloning so to cut out growing males and get the max out of your space.

[basementbotany]

ok, just a quick update. so lastnight i set my timer for my light from 24/0 to 18/6 and it seems that it was the miracle drug for my plants. after the past 2 days of absolutley no growth, i wake up this morning to find an explosive undergrowth from all 4 plants. I moved some fan leaves around lastnight to expose all the undergrowth, and it seems that this did the trick. i will update my pics in a couple of days when things really start to fill out.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Sorry for the doulble post don't even know how I even did it. BB sounds like you are figureing things out, it is a lot of trial and error during your first grow that is the reason for a grow log so others can see what you are doing and aid when needed or compliment good work. Then when emergancy's happen or you have general questions place posts in the appropriate folders for a quicker response. Like your picture question put that in the feedback folder, that is where the site techs hang out. There is also a hydroponics subfolder for general questions, And a Plant Problems folder also. These are the main places I use.

[basementbotany]

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[basementbotany]

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[basementbotany]

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[basementbotany]

there we go, i finally figured this damn thing out...thanks to MVP...although my smoked out brain couldn't process the information

[basementbotany]

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[basementbotany]

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[MVP]

Looks good. Best suggestions I can give you are:

1. Patience
2. Don't Overfeed them
3. Slow and Steady
4. More Patience
5. Repeat steps 1-4 as needed.

If you encounter any issues, posting pics and a full decsription of your grow environment will get you the best answers and advice.

Refer to steps 1-5 above frequently and you'll do just fine :D

[basementbotany]

i have been feeding them about every 6 hours, or 4x a day. thought about cutting back to 3 times just to see how they would respond, but i think 4x seems to be optimal right now. pH is constantly at a 5.8-6.0, temp. stays about 72-75 throughout the day. patients has been the easy thing for me b/c i really don't know how to get too technical into it, about the only thing i keep a close watch of is my resevoir level, ph, temps, and small things like that. I am amazed more and more everyday at the difference in hydro and soil. Definately more of a hydro guy now, though i still have some things to learn. Still need to invest in a ppm meter.

[basementbotany]

day 21 of veg. going 12/12 on the first of February i hope [attachment=o175629][attachment=o175630]
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[basementbotany]

2 of them have major catching up to do. will not effect when i put them into flower though, no matter what, they get until feb. 1st before flowering. quick question, i'm running through veg. with a 400w MH, how much would it decrease yield if i were to stay with the MH through flowering? just don't have $110 to spend on an HPS at the moment. i do have a friend that is contemplating letting me use his 360w HPS, but i would have to put off flowering for another 4 weeks, or until he finishes flowering. any suggestions?

[MVP]

I'm not sure how much, but it WILL affect the yield. I would suggest that you use Low Stress Training (LST) to tie down the tops of the taller plants and keep the canopy height even.

[basementbotany]

have already started with lst. i'm guessing that's why i'm getting more horizontal growth rather than vertical growth. thanks MVP for all of your responses, seems that i may be able to get that HPS afterall, well i do some more updates when i see changes and as i feel the need to......PLEASE STAY TUNED!

[basementbotany]

i'll post new pics of them lst'd tomorrow, they are looking nice, can't wait to flower. not that i'm in such a hurry to get bud, just want to see what these plants will do for me, or if i need to order seeds with good genetics.

[MVP]

It's definitely easy to get excited about them, as long as you don't put them on YOUR schedule you should do fine.

Remember steps 1-5 above.

MVP :jointsmile:

[basementbotany]

not exactly sure what it means to put them on MY schedule, but i think i get the "just" of it. i do get excited, i am already wanting to set up a dual flower room, but i will wait until i complete my noob grow. i want set up 2 trays for flower, weeks 1-4 in one tray, weeks 5-harvest in another tray. need to find a prominent strain that will fit in that schedule. i'm sure i'll get deeper into it after this first grow.

[MVP]

I know what ya mean amigo. However it is easier to learn starting slow and small, cuz when things go haywire (which they will at some point) you will be able to respond better. Putting them on YOUR schedule means rushing them into something they are not ready for yet. But of course you know better and will not do that, right? :D

[basementbotany]

absolutely will not do that! i am going on your guys' schedule, haha! i'm sure you all will let me know when it's go time for these bitches (hopeful bitches anyways) to flower. i will follow this forum throughout my whole grow so i have you all to set my ass straight when i'm putting them in harms way or prematurely doing this or that to them.

[basementbotany]

quick pic update, thing's are really starting to fill out nicely!
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[hydrocannabis]

holy cow thouse look beautiful.

so what kind of ferts R U useing on em. Cuz I need some good hydro ferts for mine.

well keep up the great work.

[basementbotany]

I use B.C. Grow, Micro, Bloom, and B1 Red. they are definately fun!

[basementbotany]

pic update. Veg. day 26
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[basementbotany]

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[basementbotany]

what do you guys think? probably start flower soon, can't wait!

[hydrocannabis]

hell yah bro. they look great.

keep up the great great work.

[basementbotany]

thx hydrocannabis! for some reason they aren't growing tall at all, i untied all the branches i had lst'd, and raised my light 6" in hopes that they would get a little taller. they just don't want to grow vertical, all horizontal growth, which isn't a bad thing at all, will just limit the number of plants i can grow at a time. right now i'm only set up for 4-6 plants, 10-12 in SOG. Post #43, the first pic there, i topped that plant yesterday, couldn't resist! was going to let it grow however it wanted, but it caught up with all the other's in height, so i had to top it. keep the feedback coming guys!

[basementbotany]

just took 6 new clones from my hopeful mothers. first time cloning, think i have it set up pretty good, we'll see what happens. scraped the stems to reveal the soft tissue, let them soak in water for about 30 sec., dipped them in rooting hormone, then placed them in rockwool cubes and into my humidity dome. soaked the cubes in a mix of veg. & bloom ferts.

[MVP]

If it were me, I would wait 10 day - 2 weeks after the last pruning/topping to throw them into 12/12. That way they heal up from the trauma before you hit them with the Flower light cycle. It makes for a healthier plant, less chance of stress creating problems for ya...

[basementbotany]

yeah, i plan on putting 12/12 off for another couple weeks. guess i forgot to mention that. i may wait 2 weeks and take more clones, then flower about the first of march. OR, i may just wait a week (only a week b/c these plants seem to handle stress very well) and go ahead and flower them. probably go with the latter of the two since it is my first hydro grow and i'm quite anxious to see results. guess you could call it noob-itis!

[stinkyattic]

Doesn't look all that noobly to me! You have achieved the continuous canopy! Woot. Your grow looks good, the plants are healthy, and you should be patting yourself on the back.

[basementbotany]

thx for the kind words stinky! what are your opinions? what do you think i should do about flowering?

[stinkyattic]

Since it will be your first time taking cuttings, I think you should be fully satisfied that you have successfully rooted the cuttings and they WILL survive before you flower. This is just in case you have problems- I know how frustrating it can be to lose a set of genetics because you've flowered off your last female and failed to take viable cuts. I still kick myself for losing Sweet Tooth#3 when my mom got the rot and I had no healhty clones! ugh!

[basementbotany]

stinkyattic, you are right about flowering after i have rooted cuttings, i wouldn't dare dream of putting them in flowering if i didn't have children ready to follow. HOWEVER, i am not at all worried about losing the genetics since it was just some good bagseed. Plan on searching for a reputable company to get seeds i want once i finish my first 'solid' grow.

[stinkyattic]

I strongly suggest getting familiar with soil growing so that you can keep mothers in soil and provide all the clones you need for your hydro table. That's if you are ready to go to a 2-room grow. lol! It's a slippery slope. Soon you will be sleeping on the living room floor while your plants enjoy stretching their fans in all the OTHER rooms of your house... :D

[basementbotany]

haha, already purchased everything for that soil grow! just have to find a prespective mother, and i don't think it is coming from this round of plants. want to wait until i get good genetics before i pick my prespective mother. What would be the BEST strain a noob could grow with ease?

[stinkyattic]

I think you're past the pathetic noob stage. What effect do you most desire? Is there a specific ailment you would like to treat? Obviously there are a few twitchy strains that you want to steer clear of, but with a grow under your belt you have plenty of options.

[basementbotany]

ya know, i like the heady, social, imaginative high, but i also like the couch lock high. So maybe a strain that offer's a bit of both would be good.

[basementbotany]

or just steer me to a few GREAT strains that are couch lock OR heady!

[basementbotany]

hell, i'm too damn scared to order any seeds anyways!

[basementbotany]

so my clones look like they are on a 24 hour drinking binge, hungover, dehydration, or something! i don't know, i'm sure they will bounce back, just not looking promising. i believe i need anti-wilt spray, just not feesable for me to drive an hour to save a few clones. but will definately put that on my list of "shit to get" next time i get to the hydro shop.

[Shovelhandle]

ive heard that 'leaf shine' spray works for that, in a pinch. MG stuff avail all over.

best of luck

shov

[basementbotany]

thx shove, i'll check into that.

[basementbotany]

ok, i have a question! first a statement, then a question. ok, right now i have black plastic covering my plant tray. as stinky said, the plastic will slow cook my roots and turn them slimy. what if i replace the black plastic and covered my tray with straight aluminum foil, would this be as bad or maybe worse than the plastic, or would it be a step up from what i'm doing now?

[stinkyattic]

Walmart or a florist shop will often have wilt-pruf in stock. Put your dome on and spary under it!

Tinfoil actually scares me- acidic solution splashes on tinfoil, Al gets into nute solution... uck.
HAve you checked the actual temps under the plastic? If they are not unreasonably high (more than a couple degrees above ambient), it's not an emergency.

[basementbotany]

i have not checked actual temps under the plastic, but buy the feeling under it, it seems maybe a bit warmer, but not crazy hot or anything. i have actually already switched from plastic to foil, going to see how that works for a few days. have plastic i can switch back to if all goes bad. just thought the foil would be a good reflecting material, just not sure if it will produce heat underneath it.

[basementbotany]

First day back to work! WOOHOO....so, i get home from work today and check the babies to find.........NOTHING, absolutely nothing. not a damn bit of new growth of any sort. Every thing seems to be exactly the same with them. No taller, no wider, no new shoots, just nothing. Hmmmmm....not exactly sure why, guessing it could POSSIBLY be from taking clones 2 or 3 days ago, but in that case, why was there new growth the day after i took them? Baffled

[basementbotany]

stinky babe, my clones are lookin pretty shotty! haven't perked up since i took em. followed your advice to the T, and BLEH!

[weedos]

hey there basement botany nice looking crop man i c the resembelance in my little babies is that ak48 it sure looks like it man.they lookin real healthy too:thumbsup: keep updating we can watch them bitches grow:D

[basementbotany]

nope, no AK48 for me, though i would love to have some. these are an unknown strain, my guy said they are cali orange bud, how much of that i actually believe, still not sure! but they are growing beautifully, i'm going to try and post more pics today, haven't really seen much new growth, though i am down there about 2 hours a day, so it's hard to 'watch' em gro.

[basementbotany]

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not a crazy amount of growth in the past couple days or anything, but we're progressing slowly but surely!

[hydrocannabis]

sp do U have thouse right on the floor. isn't that bad for the roots?

other than that they all look great.

[basementbotany]

thanks hydro, no, i sit them on a dip can (just quit all tobacco products btw). haven't had any tobacco of any kind for two weeks now :thumbsup:. Thank you Thank you, i'm pretty proud of myself. Oh yeah, the shoe is a size 12 if anyone wanted to know ;)

[basementbotany]

my sad little clones!
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[MVP]

Dude, I have totally seen worse. Maybe they are sad since they don't ahve a huge family surrounding them right now....

[basementbotany]

hope you're right about that one. it's been 3 or 4 days and they still haven't perked up. not looking any worse either, so that's a plus:rolleyes:. just changed my nutes today. using everything at full strength now. I know i should have already been doing this, was just a little too scared, being as that it's my first time getting my feet wet!

[basementbotany]

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[basementbotany]

12/12 starts tonight. switched out my MH bulb for my HPS bulb already this morning. will do a nute change after first week of flowering. HOW EXCITING:jointsmile:

[MVP]

Nice work, it will be fun to watch your grow as it kicks into flowering...

[basementbotany]

yeah, i can't wait. i was going to wait another week before i started flowering, but i just got over anxious. about how long before i'll know the sex of these babies? one or two weeks i'm assuming! i'll post pics when i figure out the sex.

[MVP]

yeah, i can't wait. i was going to wait another week before i started flowering, but i just got over anxious. about how long before i'll know the sex of these babies? one or two weeks i'm assuming! i'll post pics when i figure out the sex.

Depends on the strain and growing conditions, but generally between 10-14 days. Up to 21 days in some cases.

[basementbotany]

ok, just got a new temp & humid. guage. today is officially the first full 12/12 they have been through. i get home from work today and temps are 73-74, and humid. was 68%, that's probably a little too high isn't it? turned the dehumidifier down to 40%, is that a better area for my humidity to be in?

[MVP]

I try to keep RH at or below 40 when flowering. During veg up to 60 is okay, but I rarely get that high.

[basementbotany]

this is day 2 of flowering, and all of my new growth is a pale yellow. what is this caused from? also, i put a dehumidifier in the room and i still can't get the RH down below 65%, i don't know what to do. is this terribly bad for them if i keep it at 65%? that seems to be as low as i can get it. i'll post pics of the yellow shoots here in a little bit, maybe someone out there can diagnose this problem.

[basementbotany]

is there any problems with these?
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[MVP]

Dude, post those last 2 in the Plant Problem area to get more help. I haven't experienced that before so I can't help too much...

[basementbotany]

i'm not sure if it's the strain or not. throughout the veg. cycle a lot of the new growth was that pale green color. i'm wondering if it is just more noticeable since i have them under an HPS now. i sure as hell hope that's the case. still can't seem to get my humidity down below 60%. have a dehumidifier running constantly, can't seem to figure it out.

[basementbotany]

any takers? anyone have any idea if this is a problem or not? they still seem to be growing a little at a time, just can't figure out why all the new growth is so pale.

[MVP]

Like I said earlier, post in the Plant Problem section and you'll get more advice, much quicker...

[basementbotany]

i posted it there, stinky says that my plants look completely normal, she said it's not uncommon for new growth to be so light. now the humidity thing i still can't get under control, no clue what to do there, even the dehumidifier will not keep the humidity down below 60%, and it's set to run continuosly.

[MVP]

I live out here in the West where I don't ever encounter too much humidity. I take it you posted that question there and did not get an answer? You might search the forums using the word HUMIDITY or DEHUMIDIFIER and get some results...

[atl01]

Hey basementbotany!!! your grow looks great. Is that a portable ac unit in your pic above? I just bought one and am thinking about using it in my room. If it will fit.

[basementbotany]

thanks atl, no it's not a portable ac, it's a dehumidifier. humidity was kickin' my ass this week until i got that thing in there. it's still at 51%, but atleast it's not back up in the 70's. haven't seen much growth from yesterday, not sure if they are putting their energy into showing their sex, or some kind of nutrient def. we'll see what tomorrow brings.

[hydrocannabis]

Hey basementbotany!!! your grow looks great. Is that a portable ac unit in your pic above? I just bought one and am thinking about using it in my room. If it will fit.



I sure wish ppl would come over to my grow log.
anf yah basementbotany!!! your grow does look realy great.

[basementbotany]

thx hydro, i'll come check out your grow....

[weedos]

yo man dats some nice crops u got there much better than mine:(i had another 3 males only 1 female left so i started afew more off. happy growing man:hippy:

[basementbotany]

weedos, thought you were moving soon man? wouldn't start anything up until after the move! finish out what you have. like i said in your thread, wouldn't be a bad idea to put your best male with your best female and get some quality seeds for after the move. or you can just pollenate one of the buds on the female and only that bud will seed. the reason i say to let the female get pollenated is b/c you started them in flowering so early that you probably won't get much smoke out of it. just my opinion though, i'm sure other's will tell you different.

[basementbotany]

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[basementbotany]

can't believe that little chica has survived this long. Oh, humidity is under control finally!
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[hydrocannabis]

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they look great.

[basementbotany]

thx, i think i found a male tonight. on the upside, i think my biggest best looking plant, is a fem. and that little runt is a female clone from a friend. i'll prob. know more in the days to come.

[basementbotany]

WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!:dance: i'm so f*ing stoked now, i found another female, that makes 3 fems. and 1 him. still awaiting on the other one to show. i bet if i look hard enough i could find some sign of what it is. the pistils are sooo small you can barely see it with the naked eye, but i believe those are what i'm seeing. i know FOR SURE that the one is a male, looks like a female flower with a little ball on top of it, does that sound right?

[basementbotany]

going to buy a photographer's loupe today, will haven 'guarenteed' answers tonight hopefully.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Does sound like you have a male there. If you have more than one ball on either side of the node it is more than likely male. the Loupe will definetly help I use mine alot. It really helps during harvest to.

[basementbotany]

it has been confirmed, 3 fems. and one male. bought a 10x loupe today and there are a few spots showing sex on each plant. i'm pretty happy about that ratio.

[smok3y]

Lookin good man...:D

[basementbotany]

thanx smok3y, if i were a lil' more camera savvy, i'd take closeup's with the loupe so you guys could see the pistils. they are on day 6 of 12/12, that's pretty early to show sex isn't it? added an aquarium heater today, resevoir temp was down in the 60's, try to bring it up to 70-72.

[basementbotany]

i have a question, with molasses, do i want to buy unsulphured molasses?

[basementbotany]

also, with the mollasses, do i start using it this early in flowering? probably be best to go ahead and start using it, correct? How much would i put in a 15 gal. res.?

[basementbotany]

are these what i think they are?
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[basementbotany]

4/5 Females. 3/4 from seed + 1 Clone from a friend. SHOULD BE IN VEGAS!

[MVP]

are these what i think they are?
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Too early to be certain. One looks like it is, the other (#2) looks like it might be a boy....

[basementbotany]

actually, those are both of the same plants, and it's def. a female. i have all females but one, which i already tossed.

[MVP]

I sure hope you are right, it's too early after 6 days to know for sure... good luck

[hydrocannabis]

well I don't think 6 days is too early to see the sex of a plant.

because mine R only 5 days into 12-12 and they both have showed there lil pussy.

so I think it could happen under the right growing conditions.

:D :stoned: :rasta: :thumbsup: :jointsmile:

[basementbotany]

i'll get some much better pics today through that loupe so you all can see each and every plant's sex. i'm am 99.9% positive that the rest of my plants are all female. they each have about 5-6 places showing female parts.

[basementbotany]

ok, so this morning, after lights on, i go down to check my ph, and all that good shit. i open the lid to the res. and the solution is almost bleached white and kinda smells like bleach/chlorine. what the hell was that? on a good note, after MVP made me second guess myself about sex, i checked all 4 plants i still have going, and it is absolutely confirmed that all 4 are female. ok, back to the resevoir, the only thing i added to it was a thermometer, an aquarium heater (which kept the water at 75) and a bit of mollasses to the solution. It's already a 6 part solution with added sugar daddy, do you think the added mollasses f*ed it up? i added the shit 2 days ago, and it turned to hell overnight i'm assuming, since i found it all jacked up this morning.

[basementbotany]

ARE THEY?
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[gainesvillegreen]

Yes, females. Every one of the last four pictures shows female preflowers.

[basementbotany]

LOVIN' IT! great odds for my first grow, eh!:D i got the male out before any pods opened up on it. should have some good sensimillia (spell check)

[basementbotany]

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Sorry guys, i get bored on the days i'm off!

[basementbotany]

quick update, pistils are starting to shoot out at each node. i'm not going to post pics for awhile, as they are still quite un-exciting. temps. are starting to get up in the high 70's to low 80's. can't seem to figure out why my night temps are hotter than my day temps. right when lights came on it was 81, with lights on for an hour temp dropped to 75, confused? do you think the dehumidifier is keeping it that warm in there during lights out? all i have going during the night cycle is a dehumidifier and an oscillating fan, i also close the door on the room at night, should i leave it open?

[fosomker]

Looks good.

Yes the DH will cause heat, though I am not sure that much, it would depend on venting.

One thing I notice and I am a noobie, but you dont have a lot of roots (at least in the pics I seen). I am going to go take pictures of mine right now and post them in my growlog to show you the difference. Both my grows have been this way because I do DWC, more roots = more buds.

I tried e&f was not happy, so I switched it back to DWC. I think e&f are a little harder, DWC is is almost like plug and play. Run your pump 24/7, recirc you water every few hours, and check eviroment (RH, PPM,PH,Temp).

You shit looks good, I will be watching this throughout your flower. As several has mentioned the method to growing is patients, dont give too much nutes too fast, dont do big changes, let the plants tell you what they want. I use a simple system, new nutes 1 a week, check PH twice a day and add some water (they get thirsty). I only increase the nutes if they are all happy, at the first sign of changes (bad ones) since I look daily, I am slow and methotical (sp?) about reversing anything I have done. Basically I keep telling myself keep it simple stupid..:D It has seemed to work.

[basementbotany]

that's about the way i've been playing it too.....keep it simple...with that being said, i'm also down there about once an hour just to have a peak! When you ran the E&F were your roots anything like mine? or were they much bigger? i have recently seen 1 of my buddy's e&f's and his roots look about like mine. i did start adding H2o2, maybe that will give them a bit of a boost. I started with this system, as i was told by my amigo that it's the most simple, so being new to hydro this is my entry way to a bigger and better playing field. have done LOADS of research on RDWC, and have come to the conclusion that i may go with a DWC/E&F hybrid and have an air pump kick on during the flood cycle, and buy about 30 of thos 1" airstones and line the bottom of my flood table with them. any thoughts?

[fosomker]

Okay I more than twice on most days, but that is my minimum looks a day.

So that is kinda what i did with my veg station. I do e&f until a few roots are out of the baskets (7-14 days), then I switch the drain tube to a shorter one and basically recric all the time but have an air stone in each bucket, cycle the pumps off at night and let drain. When doing the e&f I have the air stones running. I focus on getting good roots. I figure that is what makes the rest of it grow and if you are seeing those grow nice a fast, the rest tends to follow...:D And the way to get monster roots is air.

For the air pump I would get some long air stones, I like the 12" for resivors. I had some 4" ones and they cloge in just one cycle and were weak. In my buckets I run 5" round in the center. I like the AP40 pump, it has plenty of air and is QUITE. I run 10 stones in the veg and still have ports blocked off and I get great bubbles. You can find them on ebay for 100-120.

[basementbotany]

so basically, i would drop my overflow drain down an inch or 2, buy a kick ass air pump, about 6-8 12" stones, place around the 3 plants, flood constantly, except during night cycle, and i basically have a recirculating dwc....do i have that correct? believe i'm going to do something like that, sounds much better for root development! MUCHO GRACIAS AMIGO!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[fosomker]

I have been looking at just running a 30-40% duty cyle. Run for 90 minutes off for 270?? But basically yeah that is all I do in veg. The rockwool clones seemed to do better too over the bubbler, not sure if it was just because how they would act like a wick.

[basementbotany]

hell yeah, thx fosomker, believe i'm going to go ahead and do something like that for this grow, maybe i can bulk them up a lot more than what they will be before harvest. though, i do want to see how the e&f turns out on it's own; i also don't want to decrease final yield just to see how the hell my e&f turns out the way i have it.

[gainesvillegreen]

I have been looking at just running a 30-40% duty cyle. Run for 90 minutes off for 270?? But basically yeah that is all I do in veg. The rockwool clones seemed to do better too over the bubbler, not sure if it was just because how they would act like a wick.

Just a forewarning: duty cycles for tools and such are calculated on a period of 10 minutes, not whatever time period you want. So, at 40% duty cycle, it is designed to run for no more than 4 minutes at a time before overheating.

[fosomker]

I only meant on time.

[gainesvillegreen]

I only meant on time.

Cool. I wasn't trying to be rude, I've just seen a lot of people break good stuff by misunderstanding what duty cycle means.

[weedos]

helo bb hows things growin down your end iv had some serious probs wid my baby but she seems to be sortying herself out PRAISE THE LORD i noticed you havent posted any pics lately everyting ok widdem just little worried holla bak :hippy:

[basementbotany]

hey weedos, i appreciate the concern. thing's are going pretty good this way, i've had quite a few nute problems lately, trying to keep pH and all that shit in check, it's climbing a point every couple hours. so constant nute changes have taken place the last few weeks. i believe i finally have it in check, washed my roots, res. tubing, pump, stones, everything, and i believe i nipped it in the butt finally. on a positive note, i have buds filling in from top to bottom on each plants. i hope these plants are going to be as big of yielders as i think they are. i'll try to update pics when i can get my laptop to read my digi-cam card. get back to ya'll later:stoned: