YO Stinky

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

whats up, i got a question for you about that cannazym, i got it and used it on those moldy plants but i think they were too far gone because i decided to chop the plants and when i did the inside of the main shoot was filled with mold, but anyway i got a new system/light and gave the old to a friend and cleaned it very well before i did she planted some bag seeds, and the new roots coming out are covered in mold:wtf:, i dont understand how its still there (can only think maby the pvc tube that the dripper attatch to still had a little water in it) but i gave her some cannazym and some hydroguard and now there look like there dieing. but i wanted to know if cannazym/hydroguard harmful to young plants? there a couple weeks old and not even adding nutes yet.

thanks

[PharmaCan]

Jimmy - I've never used Cannazyme or Hydrogaurd, but if you've got mold in your old system your friend needs to clean everything real well with a solution of water and bleach. She should even run the system for a few hours with the bleach solution (without any plants in there, of course).

PC :smokin:

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

She should even run the system for a few hours with the bleach solution (without any plants in there, of course).

PC :smokin:

that i didnt think of...... but i scrubed that thing with 10 parts water / 1 part bleach for like an hour, but that will clean out the pump, and everything real good, thanks

[Opie Yutts]

that i didnt think of...... but i scrubed that thing with 10 parts water / 1 part bleach for like an hour, but that will clean out the pump, and everything real good, thanks

It's not good enough to scrub the stuff, you need to have bleach going through everything. The lines, nozzles, wait, I'm just repeating stuff. OK not repeating. I just want to reiterate.

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

yea, i sent along the msg, hope it work sbut my thought is just to start over once mold starts its a bitch

[Opie Yutts]

Also, dehumidify. You can get the humidity down to 30 and the plants still grow fine. No mold problems at that level. At least for me.

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

yea but the only problem is under the lid, where most mold i ever has started, with the water and heat the open space is at like 80%, mold loves that

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

or apparently like what word has, mold growing in the water, im still convinced thats some kind of algie/fungus/mold mix,

my dehumdifier broke the otherday, but in winter time here and the humidity is very low so i dont think it would be a hudge prob and also she has it in the attic

[cwesto]

Opie, I am guessing mold is more common in bloom since the plant is thick and resiny. At what humidity range does mold start to grow?? I am in a closet thats about 2' x 4' x 8', and in soil..

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

30% +

[Opie Yutts]

I don't know if mold is more common during budding, but the simple fact that there is more foliage to trap moisture under and in the canopy, seems like it would make sense. Also, I've never had mold issues and haven't read much about them. I don't know what RH mold needs in order to start growing, so I'll have to take oldjims word for it. Weed plants seem to prefer 60% RH, and I know that's plenty of moisture for mold.

And yes oldjim, I get that message all the time. Especially during forum "rush hours". It is extremely frustrating when you type some long thing out, then loose it all. That's one reason I like to compose my stuff in word or something, if it's going to be a fairly long post. Also, if you hit control-A, then control-C before you press submit, if it does go away you'll still have it on your clipboard. Then just start again and hit control-V for it to all come back. But you probably already knew that.

[stinkyattic]

Mold risk begins at about 45% humidity (it's rare to see mold at that %RH though! You have to be screwing something else up pretty seriously) depending on a couple other factors:
-bud density- fluffy buds= less risk
-strain's natural resistance to pathogens
-plant's immune system health (potassium and silica are important)
-air flow- more flow= less stagnation= less risk
-difference between night and day temps- Minimizing temperature swing between night and day will decrease your mold risk and allow you to run a higher %RH because you won't get dewfall.
Generally, keeping your flower room under 50% with all other conditions being reasonable you should never see mold in your buds.
I don't know about how young you can go using cannazyme. HAve you tried peroxide treatment yet?
Finally, consider something like SubCulture innoculant (just looked it up and it's listed interchangeably with hydroguard)... here's a link to some basic considerations for use:
Beneficial Bacteria Explained | BGHydro (http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/static/articles/1105_bacteria.asp)

Would you like me to clean up this thread a bit?

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

Would you like me to clean up this thread a bit?


sure (you kno what a spike of anger can do)



but back to business thanks for all the responces, but its all pointless since these dam seeds wont germ :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf: :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

i bought some nice feminized ww seeds and fem haze and they wont germ, i got in in a ziplock and damp paper towel for prob more than a month, nothing i tryed to germ at reg room temp (70f) them moved up grad to now 102f and nothing, got my new system waiting for them and they werent cheap.

i chucked the pagcage they came in so i dont remember the brand but it was in this circle thing with a spinning clear plastic front to realease them.... i try to look up my order and find out

but if anyone has any ideas i would greatly appreaciate them i really want to get these going.

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

whats up with the board, did you guys update it? i have to quote somthing to reply or it says: Please click one of the Quick Reply icons in the posts above to activate Quick Reply.

but anyway they were Greenhouse Seeds 5 packs (feminized)

[Weedhound]

Jimmy....try some rapid rooters....you just toss the seed in the whole and water.....keep the rr about as wet as a sponge.....more than damp but nothing dripping.....they should germinate for you. I've never had a problem with my rapid rooters.

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

Jimmy....try some rapid rooters....you just toss the seed in the whole and water.....keep the rr about as wet as a sponge.....more than damp but nothing dripping.....they should germinate for you. I've never had a problem with my rapid rooters.


thanks about to now, but 2 questions, you put them in a h dome or anything or just keep them out and wet? also could germ be effected buy the fact they they have been wet/(tryin to germ) for the last month?..

[stinkyattic]

After a month, those seeds are beyond hope.
A humidity dome isn't necessary to germ, just keep the medium moist but not wet, and it can actually help create the conditions for damping-off (pythium) which will kill seedlings- air flow is important.
A nice thing about rapidrooters is that they are inoculated with beneficial soil bacteria and these bacteria prevent fungus from attacking the little plants. So if you are having problems, it's worth a shot.
Practice on bagseeds for now until you are certain that you have fixed the problem. There are probably some in your buddy's ashtray or the shifter-boot of his car... :D

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

Practice on bagseeds for now until you are certain that you have fixed the problem. :D

i usaky germ prity quick and easly but when ever i buy seeds theres alawys a problem, i could germ bagseeds with sucess til im dead but these fem seeds are a bitch for some reason


but no luck with the rr so far


could i dry thses seeds and re germ, since they didnt germ?......

[Opie Yutts]

If your seeds have never touched moisture, you have a chance of germinating them. Otherwise they will never root. I've tried many methods, and by far the most success I've had is to stick the seeds about 1/4 inch into soil, keep the soil warm and moist, not wet. The seeds won't have a choice but to sprout, and they're already transplanted as well, which will help reduce transplant shock and growth slow down.

[Opie Yutts]

PS, some strains are harder to grow all around. But whenever you buy seed the project goes bad? That's expensive. Maybe try a plant known for it's hardiness. It's hard to kill Blueberry or AK-47.

[BobBong]

It sounds like this was a serious mold problem, it'd be next to impossible to ensure all the spores are off and out of that plastic or vinyl material.

You need to replace everything if you've had a mold problem this bad. It can seep right into the reservoir plastic not to mention the inside of pumps, and vinyl lining.

It sucks , but until you do replace everything i think you'll consistently have this problem.

Bob.

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

PS, some strains are harder to grow all around. But whenever you buy seed the project goes bad? That's expensive. Maybe try a plant known for it's hardiness. It's hard to kill Blueberry or AK-47.

yea it deff is, havent even gotten to try my new sys/light out yet <sux. which fem pref ww seeds are good? any specific brands? if not wat about the ak47, theres many brands and i would have to say they all cant suck

[stinkyattic]

You need to get some seedy brick, sterilize your equipment with foaming bathroom cleaner (it's great stuff- Scrubbing Bubbles works like a charm on prop equipment), and do a test run of bagseed, up to about week 3 when they become less vulnerable, to prove that your technique is correct.
BAAAAAAG SEEEEEEED....
No matter how hardy a strain, all seedlings are susceptible to rot in poor conditions.

[stinkyattic]

How'd it go?
;)

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

not bad..

[Opie Yutts]

Glad to see you up and running. How do you like the coco? Been thinking about giving it a go, maybe half and half with hydroton. It's still sitting over there in the corner in a bag. Has been for a year. I like experimenting, but when something works as well as hydroton does for me, I find it a little hard to change.

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

Glad to see you up and running. How do you like the coco? Been thinking about giving it a go, maybe half and half with hydroton. It's still sitting over there in the corner in a bag. Has been for a year. I like experimenting, but when something works as well as hydroton does for me, I find it a little hard to change.


Thanks, i needed this badly i just started going back to school and this is EXTREMELY THERAPEUTIC, it relaxes me. but an yway i figured out the key to the cocoa tech, from what i leaned its not suposto take in water its actualy for the oppisate, its purpus it to just wet the roots for some reason, so i scoop up a cup of water and pour one in each to water them until the roots poke through (1 has already) but a cocoa tech, filled with hydrotron and a rr hidden in the middle works great.

im cant wait to see the results of a true aeroponics tank

i just ordered all new nutes/ph calbration solution, im doing this grow by the book, and next time ill start expirmenting with the grow.

btw my seed problems are with fem seeds, i ordered ww seeds not fem and fem ww seeds and agian with rr only the un fem seeds sprouted :wtf: guess ill just have to get cloning down and ill be set