Stages of Marijuana Smoking

[FindingTim]

These are the stages of smoking that I went through up until now, starting in my sophomore year of high school. I am now a freshmen at Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles, and I spent about 1/2 of the first semester completely baked. However, I hope this time my abstinence will be permanent. I am posting this in order to both promote my own decision to quit smoking, and to assist anyone who may be blind to their own similar experiences.

Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.

2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: â??itâ??s been long enough,â?� and â??Iâ??ll only use occasionally.â?�
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical â??welcome backâ?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.


More personal observations:

Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression

So, after four years and thousands of bowls (literally), I am done. Oh, and please excuse my signature; I made it a long time ago.

Final 10 cents:
---Dennis Kucinich 08'!--- (He happens to be the most reasonable and peace-minded candidate. Watch him in debates and you too may realize that he is the one candidate capable of making huge, positive change in this country.) :thumbsup:

[8182KSKUSH]

Wow, good luck to you I hope the best for you. If smoking is not in some way enriching your life then why do it? From what you have said the bad far out weighed the good and it sounds like you are doing the right thing.

[farmgirl]

buddy your smoking the wrong stuff if you have no sex drive,i fing my sex performance becomes somewhat enhanced!but then again us farm chicks smoke some wierd shit!

[LIP]

These are the stages of smoking that I went through up until now, starting in my sophomore year of high school. I am now a freshmen at Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles, and I spent about 1/2 of the first semester completely baked. However, I hope this time my abstinence will be permanent. I am posting this in order to both promote my own decision to quit smoking, and to assist anyone who may be blind to their own similar experiences.

Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.

2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: â??itâ??s been long enough,â?� and â??Iâ??ll only use occasionally.â?�
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical â??welcome backâ?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.


More personal observations:

Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression

So, after four years and thousands of bowls (literally), I am done. Oh, and please excuse my signature; I made it a long time ago.

Final 10 cents:
---Dennis Kucinich 08'!--- (He happens to be the most reasonable and peace-minded candidate. Watch him in debates and you too may realize that he is the one candidate capable of making huge, positive change in this country.) :thumbsup:

The weight gain is your problem, nothing to do with the weed.
Cannabis doesnt rob you of your emotions and motivation. Your just lazy.
I dont get droopy eyes unless im stoned - i REALLY fail to see how cannabis can change the way you look when sober.
How did cannabis weaken your social ability? Cannabis didnt, you did.
Cannabis DOES NOT lower sex drive.
Learning difficulty? Thats nothing to do with cannabis, maybe your just not the bright spark you thought you were.
How did smoking cannabis make you less confident? It's YOU, not the weed.
I dont see how cannabis can completely change you, it gets you stoned, and thats it. I dont see how/why it'd change your personality. [for the worse]
And cannabis doesnt stop you dreaming, you dream everynight - you just cant always remember them.


Moving onto withdrawl symptoms:


Complete appetite loss - so your not eating ANYTHING? You havnt lost your appetite - your eating the amounts a normal person would. You just think you've lost your appetite because your not eating tons and tons of food when you have the munchies.

Loss in condience? So, you've got none when your stoned, and when you quit, you've got none? Strange....



Have you EVER thought to stop and look at yourself!? Maybe it's not the weed, but YOU.

[FindingTim]

The weight gain is your problem, nothing to do with the weed.
Cannabis doesnt rob you of your emotions and motivation. Your just lazy.
I dont get droopy eyes unless im stoned - i REALLY fail to see how cannabis can change the way you look when sober.
How did cannabis weaken your social ability? Cannabis didnt, you did.
Cannabis DOES NOT lower sex drive.
Learning difficulty? Thats nothing to do with cannabis, maybe your just not the bright spark you thought you were.
How did smoking cannabis make you less confident? It's YOU, not the weed.
I dont see how cannabis can completely change you, it gets you stoned, and thats it. I dont see how/why it'd change your personality. [for the worse]
And cannabis doesnt stop you dreaming, you dream everynight - you just cant always remember them.


Moving onto withdrawl symptoms:


Complete appetite loss - so your not eating ANYTHING? You havnt lost your appetite - your eating the amounts a normal person would. You just think you've lost your appetite because your not eating tons and tons of food when you have the munchies.

Loss in condience? So, you've got none when your stoned, and when you quit, you've got none? Strange....



Have you EVER thought you stop, and look at yourself!? Maybe it's not the weed, but YOU.

Your only counter-argument that I even find slightly realistic is about my weight gain. But keep in mind, cannabis does increase appettite, so I'm not entirely to blame. I'm 6'0 165 though, which isn't overly large by any means.

So what I've gathered is that you think cannabis can do nothing beyond get you stoned, and that it cannot have any direct effect on mental functioning... honestly, it sounds like you are in COMPLETE denial. A year ago I likely would have completely agreed with you... but I suspect that your thoughts will change with time.

And as for marijuana, it contains chemicals that alter the way your brain works. How could you be so ignorant as to think that it cannot change your behavior, sleep, and appetite etc?

Also, what inspired you to take my initial post so damn personally? Your all-cap words and obvious disgust seem a bit dramatic...




The one statement I'd like to retract is that "(Weed) completely changed my personality." This is simply not true. It would be more accurate to say that it only allowed little flashes of my overall character to show through.

I'm also curious if there are any studies that support any of what I have observed. Google here I come...

[LIP]

Your only counter-argument that I even find slightly realistic is about my weight gain. But keep in mind, cannabis does increase appettite, so I'm not entirely to blame. I'm 6'0 165 though, which isn't overly large by any means.

So what I've gathered is that you think cannabis can do nothing beyond get you stoned, and that it cannot have any direct effect on mental functioning... honestly, it sounds like you are in COMPLETE denial. A year ago I likely would have completely agreed with you... but I suspect that your thoughts will change with time.

And as for marijuana, it contains chemicals that alter the way your brain works. How could you be so ignorant as to think that it cannot change your behavior, sleep, and appetite etc?

Lastly, what inspired you to take my initial post so damn personally? Your all-cap words and obvious disgust seem a bit dramatic...



Denial? You're how old? I've been smoking longer than you, more than you, and probably know more about it than you.

And yes, your right. It disgusts me that people would be as ignorant as YOU.

Your trying to blame your problems on weed, and THAT is pathetic.

Weed doesnt do half the things you seem to think it does.

Cannabis does increase your appetite - but it's YOUR choice to eat.

The same goes for pretty much the rest of your post. Cannabis isnt doing these things to you, YOUR doing them to yourself.

If cannabis caused all these problems, wouldnt everyone [ok, not everyone, but the majority] feel the same? Wouldn't the older smokers such as myself know ALL about this?

Weed doesnt make you lazy - it doesnt nail your feet to the floor. You make yourself lazy.

I dont think i mentioned anything about sleep, apart from dreaming - and what i said was 100% right.

So, you carry on blaming all your failings as a human on weed, and have fun while you do it! :thumbsup: hahahahaa

And if your going to try and prove me wrong, just make sure you stay away from the government sponcered/influenced websites, otherwise it's automatically void.

[FindingTim]

I'd also like to clarify one final thing: the section "Negatives of Marijuana abuse" does not mean the negatives perceived while stoned. It more accurately reflects the sober gaps of time in between smoke sessions.

[Da1One1]

I love it, you tokers love it, and we scream for ________ !

PEACE,

Da 01

[FindingTim]

Denial? You're how old? I've been smoking longer than you, more than you, and probably know more about it than you.

And yes, your right. It disgusts me that people would be as ignorant as YOU.

Your trying to blame your problems on weed, and THAT is pathetic.

Weed doesnt do half the things you seem to think it does.

Cannabis does increase your appetite - but it's YOUR choice to eat.

The same goes for pretty much the rest of your post. Cannabis isnt doing these things to you, YOUR doing them to yourself.

If cannabis caused all these problems, wouldnt everyone [ok, not everyone, but the majority] feel the same? Wouldn't the older smokers such as myself know ALL about this?

Weed doesnt make you lazy - it doesnt nail your feet to the floor. You make yourself lazy.

I dont think i mentioned anything about sleep, apart from dreaming - and what i said was 100% right.

So, you carry on blaming all your failings as a human on weed, and have fun while you do it! :thumbsup: hahahahaa

And if your going to try and prove me wrong, just make sure you stay away from the government sponcered/influenced websites, otherwise it's automatically void.

I am slightly offended by your remarks about my "failings as a human." Truthfully, my life is so incredible and I have such a wide variety of things going well for me that I would not trade my life situation for any other.

Here's a question for you since you are "older" and "more experienced." Have you ever considered that you may have been smoking for so long, that you have completely forgotten how you once functioned. Could you be so far removed from what you once knew as reality, that you now blindly bitch out 18 year olds on message boards in defense of your drug addiction?

Listen, what I wrote about is marijuana abuse. I believe that pot can be a positive substance when used in moderation. In terms of marijuana abuse, however, my observations are actually widely agreed with. I just did the googling...

You see, your main argument is that I am blaming my own issues on marijuana, when I am truly the one to blame. Well, technically you are right, because I am to blame for smoking heavy amounts of denk marijuana. See my reasoning?

Right now, I have been sober for a long enough time that I am passed the "withdrawal symptom" timetable. Literally, every single negative thing mentioned is no longer an issue for me.

Oh, and as for goverment websites, I know they are biased pieces of shit when it comes to marijuana. I rely more on studies published at universities... and studies in general.

[Da1One1]

I am Da 1 here talking to you.

WE ALL SCREAM FOR SOMETHING, RIGHT?

fill in the blank _______ , you feel me at least.

peace,

da' one

[FindingTim]

buddy your smoking the wrong stuff if you have no sex drive,i fing my sex performance becomes somewhat enhanced!but then again us farm chicks smoke some wierd shit!

Well, whatever it is you are smoking it is preventing you from correctly spelling "weird."

Just thought I'd help you out for future purposes...

[LIP]

I am slightly offended by your remarks about my "failings as a human." Truthfully, my life is so incredible and I have such a wide variety of things going well for me that I would not trade my life situation for any other.

Here's a question for you since you are "older" and "more experienced." Have you ever considered that you may have been smoking for so long, that you have completely forgotten how you once functioned. Could you be so far removed from what you once knew as reality, that you now blindly bitch out 18 year olds on message boards in defense of your drug addiction?

Listen, what I wrote about is marijuana abuse. I believe that pot can be a positive substance when used in moderation. In terms of marijuana abuse, however, my observations are actually widely agreed with. I just did the googling...

You see, your main argument is that I am blaming my own issues on marijuana, when I am truly the one to blame. Well, technically you are right, because I am to blame for smoking heavy amounts of denk marijuana. See my reasoning?

Right now, I have been sober for a long enough time that I am passed the "withdrawal symptom" timetable. Literally, every single negative thing mentioned is no longer an issue for me.

Oh, and as for goverment websites, I know they are biased pieces of shit when it comes to marijuana. I rely more on studies published at universities... and studies in general.


Well, your not as ignorant as i thought you were - well done!

Your right, everything in moderation. I got slightly heated because alot of the things you mentioned, you were blaming directly on the cannabis, when infact, it wasnt the cannabis.

I've been smoking heavily since my teens, i smoke all day, everyday.

It doesnt effect my life is any negative ways. I also smoke medicinally.

Now, i smoke more than the normal person for a few reasons, 1 my supply is abit cheaper, 2 i smoke medicainally and 3 i can afford to. I work full time as a manager, and im stoned while i do it. I'm not lazy, i havnt lost my emotions, my sleeping is fine, and appetite is fine, my memory is fine [although i agree, short term memeory can be affected by weed]

I'm certainly not addicted though. I dont crave cannabis, i choose to roll it up and get stoned. I enjoy every aspect of it, including the pain relief.

It's very rare that i ever take a break, but when i do, i dont feel lazy, un movtivaed. I dont feel tired all the time, and i dont eat less. I dont feel jumpy, and i dont crave my weed.

I know weed isnt for everyone. But just because you have problems, doesnt mean it's the weed thats causing them.

If weed DID do all these things [be it when your stoned or sober] surely i would have had some first hand experience, concidering i smoke what most people would probably call too much.

If there are any other older smokers reading this - give us your opinions.

[Da1One1]

thanx y'all

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peace

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[LIP]

thanx y'all

http://www.members.aol.com/mjremixed/private/mjravatarani10.gif

peace

1

Thankyou. Merry Christmas to you too. :rastasmoke:

[LIP]

I'm also sorry for offending you, FindingTim.

The trick with my posts is to ignore most of whats in them haha.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

LIP - Not accepting other peoples opinions since 06.

[PackAnotherBowl]

The weight gain is your problem, nothing to do with the weed.
Cannabis doesnt rob you of your emotions and motivation. Your just lazy.
I dont get droopy eyes unless im stoned - i REALLY fail to see how cannabis can change the way you look when sober.
How did cannabis weaken your social ability? Cannabis didnt, you did.
Cannabis DOES NOT lower sex drive.
Learning difficulty? Thats nothing to do with cannabis, maybe your just not the bright spark you thought you were.
How did smoking cannabis make you less confident? It's YOU, not the weed.
I dont see how cannabis can completely change you, it gets you stoned, and thats it. I dont see how/why it'd change your personality. [for the worse]
And cannabis doesnt stop you dreaming, you dream everynight - you just cant always remember them.


Moving onto withdrawl symptoms:


Complete appetite loss - so your not eating ANYTHING? You havnt lost your appetite - your eating the amounts a normal person would. You just think you've lost your appetite because your not eating tons and tons of food when you have the munchies.

Loss in condience? So, you've got none when your stoned, and when you quit, you've got none? Strange....



Have you EVER thought to stop and look at yourself!? Maybe it's not the weed, but YOU.I agree completly.

[PatrickHenry]

Very insightful post. Thank you for sharing, Tim.

I find myself on the same journey it seems. I haven't yet been able to quit though. I can't decide if I'm in denial or what.

My life seems ok, I have a job I love, wife I love, and a kid on the way. I have good friends and am able to maintain a life similar to before smoking weed, if not better. I just get this feeling that maybe I'm missing out by lighting up each day? I usually smoke a bowl each day after work and a bit on the weekends.

[lagstronaut]

Well Tim I'm at the exact same stage right now.

Before years of smoking ridiculous amounts every day, I was a bright, chipper, funny kid.

Pot was great in the first stages of my smoking it, but like you MANY negative effects started to surface after a while. And it only took not having a smoke for a few days to realise what these negative effects really were.

And now I have put all my bongs and pipes away, intentionally left my half-o at my buddys house, and I couldn't be happier. My mind is clearer, I have much more motivation, and I'm not a fumbling nervous wreck in social situations.

If I continued to smoke pot all-day every-day like I was, my life would continue to be shit. I don't want to work at some 9-to-5 retail shop doing stupid meaningless work so the owner of the company can make a little extra profit on top of his/her millions. I have dreams of my own, and they began to fade with chronic pot use.

[Storm Crow]

Having been toking for 40 odd years, the last 4 every day use for medical reasons, I have experienced very little of what you describe! My dreams are vivid, my energy levels are high, I've lost 60 pounds, I work in special education, am very artistic and creative and the brain seems to be functioning well at age 60. Everyone thinks I'm in my mid40s or 50s, when I just turned 60.

I don't have a lot of close friends, but I have friendships going back 30 years. My lack of having many truly close friends is by choice and I am well liked by my fellow workers and "ordinary" friends. I'm not a "social butterfly". I don't go to the frequent "potlucks" my school throws, but that is due to severe food allergies (not life threatening, but very unpleasant)- I don't want to end up in the hospital again! Eating anyone else's food can be a gamble!

I use every day and I feel my life is better for it emotionally and physically. For me it is the difference between a life plagued with migraines and cluster headaches, and a normal life. When I started this job at the school, I stayed pretty well "straight" for 3 years before the constant pain drove me to get "California legal" - for me, being "straight" is hellish!

So, different strokes for different folks! The world would be dull if we were all alike (like the prohibs seem to want us to be). If you feel pot is detrimental for you at this stage of your life, by all means quit. It would be foolish not to. May you be happy :) - Granny:hippy:

[Breukelen advocaat]

I find that the older I get, the less marijuana it takes to have the desired effects. Two ounces a year of high quality stuff, which is about a gram a week, is more than enough to help me every day. Right now I'm doing fine on less. It probably helped to keep me going during the years that I had a chronic medical condition that was misdiagnosed. If this is an "addiction", then so be it.

If you don't like it anymore, then you shouldn't post about it here.

[birdgirl73]

If you don't like it anymore, then you shouldn't post about it here.
Of course he should. If he wants to. This isn't "There's only one way to feel about Cannabis.com."

I'm one of those people for whom it negatively affected my motivation and memory very noticeably. It also affected my heart rhythm in a frightening way and, if I used it now, would likely interact with the anti-arrhythmic medicine I take. So I abstain as well. I want to use it again later, and I really want it to be legal when that time comes. I like the way it feels and I found that, for me, although it depleted my motivation, it still did good things for my mood.

One of the things I always cringe at here is when one person tells of his experiences with cannabis and others jump in to tell him he's feeling the wrong thing or saying the wrong thing. Or that his personal experiences are somehow incorrect, all imagined, or invalid. If I could have a single wish granted for this site, it'd be for people to realize that cannabis affects different people different ways, not all of them positively. Just because it affects four people positively doesn't mean it does the same thing for the next four. It's like any other medicine. People are going to have both negative and positive responses to it, and that's as it should be since every person's body and neurochemistry are unique.

Anyway, that's my message. Live and let be. Let freedom ring. Let cannabis be discussed in the first person as people experience it and don't step over those boundaries and tell someone he's wrong for not feeling the same thing you feel. We'll be doing a heck of a lot more justice to cannabis if we acknowledge that it works well for some and not for others than pretending that it's the be-all end-all substance for everyone.

[Skrappie]

Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams


smoking does not make me feel like that at all.

Though, if you really feel all those i can see why you would want to quit. the only thing i really agree with you on on your list is memory loss, though for the most part, its simple stuff such as: forgetting where i put my glass of water when i'm getting ready to get to run.

I typically find in in 30 seconds or so.

Maybe one day you can enjoy the herb without smoking yourself into oblivion. It's always a bummer when someone hits rock bottom. Enjoy school bud!:hippy:

[Conehead]

Of course he should. If he wants to. This isn't "There's only one way to feel about Cannabis.com."

I'm one of those people for whom it negatively affected my motivation and memory very noticeably. It also affected my heart rhythm in a frightening way and, if I used it now, would likely interact with the anti-arrhythmic medicine I take. So I abstain as well. I want to use it again later, and I really want it to be legal when that time comes. I like the way it feels and I found that, for me, although it depleted my motivation, it still did good things for my mood.

One of the things I always cringe at here is when one person tells of his experiences with cannabis and others jump in to tell him he's feeling the wrong thing or saying the wrong thing. Or that his personal experiences are somehow incorrect, all imagined, or invalid. If I could have a single wish granted for this site, it'd be for people to realize that cannabis affects different people different ways, not all of them positively. Just because it affects four people positively doesn't mean it does the same thing for the next four. It's like any other medicine. People are going to have both negative and positive responses to it, and that's as it should be since every person's body and neurochemistry are unique.

Anyway, that's my message. Live and let be. Let freedom ring. Let cannabis be discussed in the first person as people experience it and don't step over those boundaries and tell someone he's wrong for not feeling the same thing you feel. We'll be doing a heck of a lot more justice to cannabis if we acknowledge that it works well for some and not for others than pretending that it's the be-all end-all substance for everyone.

Amen sista:thumbsup:
U should write a book or something :D

[lagstronaut]

Of course he should. If he wants to. This isn't "There's only one way to feel about Cannabis.com."


I seriously wanted to bitch that guy out for such a stupid and ignorant comment, but I thought he'd get his back up like the other guy in this thread. So kudos to knowing how to properly express how you feel without offending people!

[Reefer Rogue]

Quit for whatever reasons you want, as long as you don't slander those that continue with non factual information.

[GixxerRidinToker]

I quit last night actually, went out with a bang.

I will be smoking again, but my time of smoking has ended for while... not like years and years, but I have certain federal drug tests to pass in the next month.

So yeah.

I have never felt any of the negative effects of pot until I kinda hit rock bottom. I would wake'n'bake with 2 or 3 bowls of dankdank (I can post pics if y'all me too of the shit I smoke, its nose numbingly strong) and still was not obliterated, lunch would come, smoke two or three more, then before a venture outside to work or whatnot, smoke some more. I felt as if I could not get high, I could get stoned, but not ...as a kite. I waited three days one time before smoking again, and it was great, I got blazed as hell and whatnot, but it just didn't last as long as it used to, like 45 min. So yeah. Idk where I'm going with this, as it is my first sober post on the site. I am going to continue to partake on the site, as pot I believe WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF MY LIFE! I just turned 20. That is all. Thanks for reading.

Whoever sig was about being a bad person because they smoke, I liked that btw.

[affasd]

smoke weed all day

[ncnavguy]

I smoke alot. I grow my own very potent mj and I blaze it. When I was younger I used to smoke all the time and try to stay stoned 24/7. I took a 5 yr break and grew up. Now I smoke at night and only after I've accomplished my tasks for the day, MJ doesn't make me better socially or give me deeper thoughts, I am me with or without weed. I take it to ease my pain and sleep at night. I take it because I love the communion with nature and the nourishment of something from the earth that my hands have wrought. More power to you for quitting to improve yourself Tim, I understand and college is an important time to learn not just about academia but about your self and the man you will become. In the future if the time is right and you truely did love the plant I think you can come back to it with a better understanding and respect of your self that will transfer into all of the activities you do.

[Trip06]

shit, Im like a thrill seeker so naturaly the first time I got high I was exploring the high seeing what it did, Man after that you dont wanna know. But ill tell you anyways. It was fun all the time with friends and shit but after awhile its all I did and cared about. I tried to get as much as I could when ever, like a typical addict I smoked my self retarted for months on end. Then reality set in and I had to deal with all the bullshit and problumes I caused when I was fucking around off in space. Now when I smoke occasionaly Im more mature about it. Yeah I admit I was a drug addict not saying weed was my "drug" I did alotta other shit, But thats just how I was back then. Outta control and imature, I do believe in weed being a good positive tool even know Im not that reprensentation of it.

[fireworks]

very stimulating discussion. i've been asking all those questions to myself lately. that smoke session haze and wanting to be high all the time and change is crazy. i also wish we could know definitively if pot causes brain damage.

[4twentE]

More personal observations:

Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression



The weight gain is your problem, nothing to do with the weed.
Cannabis doesnt rob you of your emotions and motivation. Your just lazy.
I dont get droopy eyes unless im stoned - i REALLY fail to see how cannabis can change the way you look when sober.
How did cannabis weaken your social ability? Cannabis didnt, you did.
Cannabis DOES NOT lower sex drive.
Learning difficulty? Thats nothing to do with cannabis, maybe your just not the bright spark you thought you were.
How did smoking cannabis make you less confident? It's YOU, not the weed.
I dont see how cannabis can completely change you, it gets you stoned, and thats it. I dont see how/why it'd change your personality. [for the worse]
And cannabis doesnt stop you dreaming, you dream everynight - you just cant always remember them.


Moving onto withdrawl symptoms:


Complete appetite loss - so your not eating ANYTHING? You havnt lost your appetite - your eating the amounts a normal person would. You just think you've lost your appetite because your not eating tons and tons of food when you have the munchies.


I've been smoking pot for half my life now, almost as long as lots of you guys have been alive. These should not in any way be considered the definitive stages of pot smoking. I find both of you to be about half right and half wrong according to my personal experiences and non-biased research.

1. First off, I can't believe you could only find two positives about smoking weed. Why the hell did you keep smoking? One of them is social involvement. Then you go to say in the negatives that it weakens social involvement. Make up your mind. I personally find it increases your social involvement as you have something to do with people. You're rarely excluded from non pot smoking crowds because you may smoke on your own time.

2. Weight gain. It's a positive aspect for cancer and leukemia (or whathaveyou) patients. Weight gain shouldn't be a problem unless you're already on the verge of being fat. It can be counteracted if you just get off your ass and do something physical. And you can eat nutitious munchies if you're that worried about weight gain.

3. Loss of motivation. OK, yeah, I can see that. It's called amotivational syndrome. I personally experience this all the time and do believe it could be pot related. As for loss of emotions, BS.

4. Worse physical appearance. More BS. Might come with amotivational syndrome, but if you're too sorry to groom and dress in the morning, you're probably an ugly f__ker anyway. You've got problems besides pot.

5. Memory loss. Definitely. Still got long term though. And can be counteracted by keeping your head busy. Read, write, do something. If you don't your brain rots away without pot.

6. Sex drive stays the same with or without pot. Sometimes I'm too stoned to wanna have sex, but when I sober up, it's on.

7. Never heard the increased estrogen thing so I will neither confirm nor deny it.

8. Learning difficulty. Comes with short term memory loss. But I still have no problem learning anything I halfway want to learn. Just pay attention in class.

9. Loss of confidence in what? I'm still confident I can do anything I could do before i started smoking whether I'm high or sober.

10. Personality. It changes with time anyway. Probably attributed to your crowd more than the drugs they do. Influence of peers, not drugs.

11. I sleep way better stoned. I'm sure i dream, jus don't remember them. The average person has 5 dreams a night but doesn't remember one no mater what chemicals they put in their body.

12. Wrestlessness. Learn to spell.

So yeah, that's my two cents.

[FindingTim]

I've been smoking pot for half my life now, almost as long as lots of you guys have been alive. These should not in any way be considered the definitive stages of pot smoking. I find both of you to be about half right and half wrong according to my personal experiences and non-biased research.

1. First off, I can't believe you could only find two positives about smoking weed. Why the hell did you keep smoking? One of them is social involvement. Then you go to say in the negatives that it weakens social involvement. Make up your mind. I personally find it increases your social involvement as you have something to do with people. You're rarely excluded from non pot smoking crowds because you may smoke on your own time.

2. Weight gain. It's a positive aspect for cancer and leukemia (or whathaveyou) patients. Weight gain shouldn't be a problem unless you're already on the verge of being fat. It can be counteracted if you just get off your ass and do something physical. And you can eat nutitious munchies if you're that worried about weight gain.

3. Loss of motivation. OK, yeah, I can see that. It's called amotivational syndrome. I personally experience this all the time and do believe it could be pot related. As for loss of emotions, BS.

4. Worse physical appearance. More BS. Might come with amotivational syndrome, but if you're too sorry to groom and dress in the morning, you're probably an ugly f__ker anyway. You've got problems besides pot.

5. Memory loss. Definitely. Still got long term though. And can be counteracted by keeping your head busy. Read, write, do something. If you don't your brain rots away without pot.

6. Sex drive stays the same with or without pot. Sometimes I'm too stoned to wanna have sex, but when I sober up, it's on.

7. Never heard the increased estrogen thing so I will neither confirm nor deny it.

8. Learning difficulty. Comes with short term memory loss. But I still have no problem learning anything I halfway want to learn. Just pay attention in class.

9. Loss of confidence in what? I'm still confident I can do anything I could do before i started smoking whether I'm high or sober.

10. Personality. It changes with time anyway. Probably attributed to your crowd more than the drugs they do. Influence of peers, not drugs.

11. I sleep way better stoned. I'm sure i dream, jus don't remember them. The average person has 5 dreams a night but doesn't remember one no mater what chemicals they put in their body.

12. Wrestlessness. Learn to spell.

So yeah, that's my two cents.

You present a good point about me listing only 2 positives about smoking. You see, "get high" is very broad. "Get high" includes everything from enhanced creative thought to food taste enhancement. I didn't feel the need to list every positive aspect of being stoned, so that is why I merely said "get high." Can you guys think of any other positives about smoking aside from the obvious?

[birdgirl73]

Mine were all the obvious (and mostly medical) ones: enhanced appetite, suppressed nausea, improvement in mood/relief of depression, relaxation. The non-medical effect that I found most unique in myself was enhanced the creativity/inventiveness, but you already covered that.

[beachguy in thongs]

Positive:
It moderates all my crazy brain cells.

[yhelothar]

I think the problem is when you base your activities around smoking weed. I think it should only be secondary to whatever whether it be socializing with friends or whooping your friend's ass in a video game. You shouldn't smoke just to smoke and do nothing. That is addiction.

Marijuana IS addictive if you have an addictive personality. You could have been addicted to alcohol or sleep aids. You could be addicted to anything else too.

Weed shouldn't be your life, it should be a insignificant part of it or a hobby. Growing weed should be considered the same as a gardening hobby, without much to do with weed.

Good for you Tim. It isn't for everyone and you got yourself away from something that was negatively affecting your life. It probably isn't the same for most people, but you are your own person. Life is too short and too big to spend in your basement smoking when there is a whole world out there.

Too much of anything is bad for you, even if it isn't physically bad for you. Think about that for awhile.

[Nuglove]

sounds like its straight out of the dea's teen section of their website...

[yhelothar]

No, DEA's teens would be like this: "I smoked pot once and almost everyone died. Everyone that survived rejected Jesus and then became a communist and a threat to the United States."

Oh and i forgot in my last post. I've been smoking weed everyday for about a month now and the only thing it has affected is my will to work out. I used to lift weights everyday and now I'm like "i'll smoke and then go work out when I'm sober." Which never works because I'm like screw it, i'll go tomorrow lol. I'm going to be quitting after New Years before class starts up again. I'm going to be doing 17 hours of classes and it is going to be an insane amount of work, I don't need any distractions.

Other than that, I haven't had any negative effects but definitely seen people that are complete fucking losers because they smoke everyday. Don't be one of those people, because you are going to ruin the cause and become another one of DEA's statistics.

[chisme]

well cmon man , anything too much will kill you,

coffee, beer,cough syrup,water even

[4twentE]

You present a good point about me listing only 2 positives about smoking. You see, "get high" is very broad. "Get high" includes everything from enhanced creative thought to food taste enhancement. I didn't feel the need to list every positive aspect of being stoned, so that is why I merely said "get high." Can you guys think of any other positives about smoking aside from the obvious?

yeah. just that only listing two makes your post seem very biased. i'll start with your two positives:

enhanced creativity, better food taste, relaxation, euphoria, drive slower, drink less, eat more, more medical uses than i can name, better sleep, social enhancement, cultural exposure, cures boredom, cooking, more patience, stress relief, makes movies, games and other activities more fun...i could name more if i really wanted to think about it. not everybody experiences things the same way but these are a few ways pot has enhanced my life.

[CaptainDank]

My best friend is going through the same thing you are. He did smoke a lot of pot in his time, but all of a sudden he quit because he thought it was gonna kill him. Since then, he's become an anti-weed advocate, but we are still friends. The reason he had to quit was not because the ganj was affecting him adversely, but all the propaganda and BS in the media made him scared. He got scared of something harmless, and his mind tricked him into believing that the weed smoking was ruining his life. Beware of misinformation and how much of it you are led to believe.

[FindingTim]

My best friend is going through the same thing you are. He did smoke a lot of pot in his time, but all of a sudden he quit because he thought it was gonna kill him. Since then, he's become an anti-weed advocate, but we are still friends. The reason he had to quit was not because the ganj was affecting him adversely, but all the propaganda and BS in the media made him scared. He got scared of something harmless, and his mind tricked him into believing that the weed smoking was ruining his life. Beware of misinformation and how much of it you are led to believe.


I actually do not think your friend is going through a similar thing at all. He seems to be quitting because of what the government has told him, where I am quitting because of my own observations. Truthfully, I don't take the government seriously at all when they bust out there ridiculous scare tactics.

[MRB041]

Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.

2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: â??itâ??s been long enough,â?� and â??Iâ??ll only use occasionally.â?�
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical â??welcome backâ?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.





I too have felt these stages, almost exactly lol, but its all about moderation. If i smoke 24/7 my social skills do lack and i am lazy and all that stuff. Its all about moderation.

And some of you guys are being waaaaayyy too harsh to a man just voicing his opinion. Weed affects everyone diferently so just back off and stop trying to dictate people's thoughts.

[Atkeni]

Sounds to me like you have a real problem with self control, putting any drug into your system on too regular a basis for a long time will change a person (for better, for worse)

it sounds like you developed a psychological addiction to MJ, and you let it take over your life.


be thankful of one thing, if this was Booze, you would be a lot worse off right now, and possibly even dead (people might smirk, but people do drink themselves to death, be it by too much, or intoxication leading to the last wrong choice they will ever make)

MJ isnt the problem, you are- its good your taking positives steps, but remember nobody but you chose to abuse MJ, and if you dont learn self control, you could end up doing a lot more damage

Good luck man

[JaMakin07]

hm essentially the positive and negative affects of marijuana after being used long term are subjective and vary from person to person

[crudemood]

I think the problem is when you base your activities around smoking weed. I think it should only be secondary to whatever whether it be socializing with friends or whooping your friend's ass in a video game. You shouldn't smoke just to smoke and do nothing. That is addiction.

Marijuana IS addictive if you have an addictive personality. You could have been addicted to alcohol or sleep aids. You could be addicted to anything else too.

Weed shouldn't be your life, it should be a insignificant part of it or a hobby. Growing weed should be considered the same as a gardening hobby, without much to do with weed.

Good for you Tim. It isn't for everyone and you got yourself away from something that was negatively affecting your life. It probably isn't the same for most people, but you are your own person. Life is too short and too big to spend in your basement smoking when there is a whole world out there.

Too much of anything is bad for you, even if it isn't physically bad for you. Think about that for awhile.

If I had to relate to anything in this thread it would be that. I found myself always going out to mainly get high with friends but after I was stoned I'd just eat then sleep. I always wantedd to use it just as an enhancement drug but then I found that i started to use it to enhance EVERYTHING so it just became an everyday/all day thing.

And then one day after a week of ssmoking I smoked for the first time and this was the very first time I realized that I've been wasting my life just smoking/eaating/sleeping all day. And from then on the trips would focus on all the negative things about me: no friends because that I'm ugly, that I'm not good enough..etc. All those my insecurities amplified and so the smoking decreased immensely.

I admit I started to get lazy and zombie like day after smoking. I wouldn't dress as nicely or socialize as well as I did sober. I definitely was able to socialize VERY well while high because of all my creative thoughts and the food was great! But for the most part, I thought it changed me personality wise and just whole new me over all.

So, now my mind is clearer, I only do it on special occasions, you know like in moderation, along with drinking. Its not longer a top priority for me in life just a tiny part of it.

[Godzilla123]

I find that the older I get, the less marijuana it takes to have the desired effects. Two ounces a year of high quality stuff, which is about a gram a week, is more than enough to help me every day. Right now I'm doing fine on less. It probably helped to keep me going during the years that I had a chronic medical condition that was misdiagnosed. If this is an "addiction", then so be it.

If you don't like it anymore, then you shouldn't post about it here.

Hmmm, two ounces a year/a gram a week... isn't that a bit low?
If possible, I'd do two grams daily.

How much do you smoke per day?

[Pie_man]

I remember reading a thread similar to this a couple months ago and the person had similar positives/negatives about quitting smoking. I'll see if I can find the thread.

[beachguy in thongs]

Stop smoking blunts by yourself!

Buy a one-hitter bowl. One hit is all that is needed to activate your cannabinoid receptors.

[TheSmokingMonkey]

"Moderation in all things, including moderation"

Secret is, you can't let yourself become addicted. Cannabis is not addictive physically, but mentally, one could become dependent on it. Where there's a will, there's a way, and I agree with LIP when he says a lot of the problems chronic smokers have stem from their tempraments, rather than the weed itself.

However, that's not to say one can blithely go through one's entire life stoned.

My personal feeling is that one should use weed like one would use alcohol: for unwinding after a hard day of work, for partying with friends, and for medicine.

This means a responsible user is sober: at work, at school, when supervising children, when operating heavy machinery, when doing a risky physical activity.

Just my opinion, but I agree with LIP for the most part.

[marleystoned]

"Moderation in all things, including moderation"

Secret is, you can't let yourself become addicted. Cannabis is not addictive physically, but mentally, one could become dependent on it. Where there's a will, there's a way, and I agree with LIP when he says a lot of the problems chronic smokers have stem from their tempraments, rather than the weed itself.

However, that's not to say one can blithely go through one's entire life stoned.

My personal feeling is that one should use weed like one would use alcohol: for unwinding after a hard day of work, for partying with friends, and for medicine.

This means a responsible user is sober: at work, at school, when supervising children, when operating heavy machinery, when doing a risky physical activity.

Just my opinion, but I agree with LIP for the most part.

I've been reading this thread from the beginning and this is the most intellegent post yet. Smoking pot is what you make of it. I smoke pot to relax after a long day, many smoke it to soothe their pain. Dont blame weed for your addiction, blame yourself. I have smoked since highschool and never have I gone to work or school high. Some people can work or learn high just like LIP said, but if you noticed that you cannot perform your best at school if your high then don't smoke before school. Your agruments against marijuana disgust me, you should have just written that you have not an ounce of self-control. The one agruement that you can back up is short term memory. But before i began smoking i talked to people and read articles so i knew any consequences of smoking MJ. Maybe you should read some articles and maybe you can prove to me that MJ is linked to weight gain. It may increase your appetite but it all comes back to self-control.

[FindingTim]

I would like to add one more important note to this post: The negative effects that I perceived were somewhat subtle. It wasn't like, "wow, my social skills are a complete mess after tons of smoking." It was something that I had to pay close attention to, and I've been paying attention to it very closely for some time now. The key word here is subtle, because the negative effects of pot are not obvious. In fact, if one is obsessed with pot (like I was), it is easy to dismiss the negative aspects. Before I began to notice all the negatives, I had to come to terms with the fact that marijuana isn't the perfect, god-sent miracle that I once thought it to be (I am actually agnostic, but that's besides the point). Based on observations of myself and my close weed-smoking friends, marijuana slowly creeps up on you, and before you know it, you aren't who you thought you were or who you want to be. I really think huge potheads would be doing themselves a favor by asking themselves, "Is this truly the person I want to be?"

Luckily, I have found that the heavy smoking seems to have little long-term effects, if any. Having not smoked for some time now, my mind is in its original state of clarity, and thankfully, I am once again who I truly want to be...

If any of you are at all questioning your pot habit, I strongly recommend not smoking for a week or two. You will be blown away at the improvement in mental clarity and overall life quality.

Of course, everything I've mentioned is based on marijuana abuse. I have never experimented with just taking a couple of rips off a joint every now and then. In my situation, it was either get way faded, or don't smoke.

[Reefer Rogue]

I would like to add one more important note to this post: The negative effects that I perceived were somewhat subtle. It wasn't like, "wow, my social skills are a complete mess after tons of smoking." It was something that I had to pay close attention to, and I've been paying attention to it very closely for some time now. The key word here is subtle, because the negative effects of pot are not obvious. In fact, if one is obsessed with pot (like I was), it is easy to dismiss the negative aspects. Before I began to notice all the negatives, I had to come to terms with the fact that marijuana isn't the perfect, god-sent miracle that I once thought it to be (I am actually agnostic, but that's besides the point). Based on observations of myself and my close weed-smoking friends, marijuana slowly creeps up on you, and before you know it, you aren't who you thought you were or who you want to be. I really think huge potheads would be doing themselves a favor by asking themselves, "Is this truly the person I want to be?"

Luckily, I have found that the heavy smoking seems to have little long-term effects, if any. Having not smoked for some time now, my mind is in its original state of clarity, and thankfully, I am once again who I truly want to be...

If any of you are at all questioning your pot habit, I strongly recommend not smoking for a week or two. You will be blown away at the improvement in mental clarity and overall life quality.

Of course, everything I've mentioned is based on marijuana abuse. I have never experimented with just taking a couple of rips off a joint every now and then. In my situation, it was either get way faded, or don't smoke.

I am that I am and that is who i want to be. I don't think what you're saying there necessarily holds, the effects are different with everyone in some subtle ways like you say. I know that if i continue to smoke i'll know exactly who i am and who i want to be and who i have already become. To know oneself one must assert oneself.

[LIP]

I would like to add one more important note to this post: The negative effects that I perceived were somewhat subtle. It wasn't like, "wow, my social skills are a complete mess after tons of smoking." It was something that I had to pay close attention to, and I've been paying attention to it very closely for some time now. The key word here is subtle, because the negative effects of pot are not obvious. In fact, if one is obsessed with pot (like I was), it is easy to dismiss the negative aspects. Before I began to notice all the negatives, I had to come to terms with the fact that marijuana isn't the perfect, god-sent miracle that I once thought it to be (I am actually agnostic, but that's besides the point). Based on observations of myself and my close weed-smoking friends, marijuana slowly creeps up on you, and before you know it, you aren't who you thought you were or who you want to be. I really think huge potheads would be doing themselves a favor by asking themselves, "Is this truly the person I want to be?"

Luckily, I have found that the heavy smoking seems to have little long-term effects, if any. Having not smoked for some time now, my mind is in its original state of clarity, and thankfully, I am once again who I truly want to be...

If any of you are at all questioning your pot habit, I strongly recommend not smoking for a week or two. You will be blown away at the improvement in mental clarity and overall life quality.

Of course, everything I've mentioned is based on marijuana abuse. I have never experimented with just taking a couple of rips off a joint every now and then. In my situation, it was either get way faded, or don't smoke.



I'm Alex. I smoke roughly 14 grams of cannabis a day, be it hash or weed, or both. Im 6'2", i drive a van, i have 2 properties. I have an advanced driving licence, and im a miserable person. I'm a marine engineer/boatbuilder. I have a girlfriend who has a similar name to me. I was born in East London, and lived there ever since. I'm a cockney. I have 3 vehicles. I have brown hair. I have 2 rings and a necklace that i wear. 10 of my front teeth are crooked. I'm a VERY angry person. I'm a VERY violent person. I do drink, but not excessively. I love my beer. I used to bare knuckle box, and was into organised fighting. From a legal standpoint, im an ex hooligan. I play snooker. I cant stand ANYTHING the Government say or do, and i believe that deserve public execution. I left school at 14. I have a twin diesel 600HP speedboat, and im looking into buying another bigger boat. My favourite aftershave is D&G. I like fishing.

I know exactly who i am. THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD CHANGE, IS THE FACT I WOULDNT BE SMOKING WEED.

Although, something i didnt mention is, i smoke weed medicinally as well as recreationally because of back trouble, knee trouble and headaches. I broke my back, i have something wrong with the cartilidge in my knee. So i smoke to surpress the pain. If i was to stop smoking, i wouldnt be able to drive, and i wouldnt be able to work. So really, if i didnt smoke weed, i'd be poor.

The point is, weed makes my life better in everyway, and couldnt make anything worse if it tried. Weed is just that, it's weed. It's not heroin.

Cannabis, if it has changed me AT ALL, has only changed me for the better.


If you dont like weed, just stop smoking it. But REALLY, stop trying to get people to feel bad for smoking it, or trying to trick them into thinking it's having negative effects on them. If it WAS having negative effects on them, they'll see it themselves. This is a pro cannabis website. Bear that in mind..:thumbsup:

[Reefer Rogue]

Legend

[theelectrician]

although people with medical prob luv a little more i wish i never smoked it and luved it so much it changed my life:wtf: i think its all a heinz 57 mix and there r sum general trues memory loss, yall now :cool: willing to settle for less yess the social ability thing is different, i think some of the people are potheads cause there not real comfy in social sets so they they smoke 2 deal i think weed should be an antidepressant really stoned ud never find ur gun &bullets then on the way to the killin ud stop at wendys eat like 12$ of grub and then decide to go home and play video games and smoke another bowl of the kind:D weed aint a positive but we all do the best we can to our life good and 4 some of us this is the shiiit. the best 2 yall

[smok3y]

Emmm what we talking about again? :D

I think every person has a diffrent effect from smoking weed, some people tend to feel or genarly are lazy and will blame it on weed, and others will smoke and still go out and do what needs to be done.. Its the person itself who has these problem not the weed thats causin the problem, so people need to stop making excusses and tryin to blame weed on there own lazy or confussed minds..:stoned:

[NextLineIsMine]

Well, whatever it is you are smoking it is preventing you from correctly spelling "weird."

Just thought I'd help you out for future purposes...


You come across as an arrogant dick right about here.

This is a classic freshman in college "I understand the world now" moment



Youre conveying your points as if youve come to some great realization and the rest of us are blinded by our addictions and love of cannabis because we cant relate to you. I find arrogance one of the most repulisive traits one can have, you seem to have it in spades.

[SFGurrilla]

These are the stages of smoking that I went through up until now, starting in my sophomore year of high school. I am now a freshmen at Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles, and I spent about 1/2 of the first semester completely baked. However, I hope this time my abstinence will be permanent. I am posting this in order to both promote my own decision to quit smoking, and to assist anyone who may be blind to their own similar experiences.

Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.

2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: â??itâ??s been long enough,â?� and â??Iâ??ll only use occasionally.â?�
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical â??welcome backâ?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.


More personal observations:

Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression

So, after four years and thousands of bowls (literally), I am done. Oh, and please excuse my signature; I made it a long time ago.

Final 10 cents:
---Dennis Kucinich 08'!--- (He happens to be the most reasonable and peace-minded candidate. Watch him in debates and you too may realize that he is the one candidate capable of making huge, positive change in this country.) :thumbsup:

Makes since in the back of my head I think these thngs but while im smoking, its the complete opposite.

[Euphoric7]

Did you smoke pure indica? :stoned:

[Storm Crow]

Pure BS put out by the gov! Here's the truth!

Effects of chronic marijuana use on testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone, prolactin and cortisol in men and women.
University of Iowa Anesthesia Publications (http://www.anesth.uiowa.edu/readabstract.asp?PMID=1935564)

- Granny:hippy:

[gocryemokid]

The bottom line - bud can't be abused by everyone! I've been saying this for years. I smoke every day and don't have barely any negative symptoms other than laziness, which surprise surprise is nothing new. I was always lazy.

[Xyz505]

u go grany i was gonna say something like that :hippy: but anyway have fun not tokin and rip jane. :jointsmile:

[FreshNugz]

but if you're too sorry to groom and dress in the morning, you're probably an ugly f__ker anyway. You've got problems besides pot.



LOL...i'd have to agree with that.

But to FindingTim:
I think you just need to find your own ways of 'productive smoking'. If you have a positive outlook on your cannabis use, you'll find its benefits outweigh the negative feelings you had before.
Cannabis expands your mind...that is one positive attribute you didn't mention.
Good luck..you'll smoke your way back:jointsmile:

[pyrar]

These are the stages of smoking that I went through up until now, starting in my sophomore year of high school. I am now a freshmen at Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles, and I spent about 1/2 of the first semester completely baked. However, I hope this time my abstinence will be permanent. I am posting this in order to both promote my own decision to quit smoking, and to assist anyone who may be blind to their own similar experiences.

Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.

2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: â??itâ??s been long enough,â?� and â??Iâ??ll only use occasionally.â?�
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical â??welcome backâ?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.


More personal observations:

Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression

So, after four years and thousands of bowls (literally), I am done. Oh, and please excuse my signature; I made it a long time ago.

Final 10 cents:
---Dennis Kucinich 08'!--- (He happens to be the most reasonable and peace-minded candidate. Watch him in debates and you too may realize that he is the one candidate capable of making huge, positive change in this country.) :thumbsup:

There are so many problems with your logic I don't even know where to start.

I'm 20 years old, and a sophomore in college. I have been smoking almost every day for the past year. Prior to that, I was a very casual smoker, some months smoking once or twice, or none at all. Less than 25 times per year. That was up until about a year ago.

Now, I smoke ONLY once per day, and always at night about an hour or two before sleep. Personally, I use it because I like the effects: relaxation, altered state of mind, increased laughter, etc,. I use it at night prior to sleep because it is the time of the day when I DON'T NEED to be productive: this is time I had previously spent watching tv sober, using the computer, etc,.

Now, I've made the decision to not smoke during the day, because I understand that would be irresponsible for me, and for my life. Marijuana isn't MAKING me use it all the time, I am the one that controls its usage. If you don't have the ability to exercise that discipline, you shouldn't be using it. Period. Learn to be accountable for your actions, something you probably have no concept of.

I have plenty of friends that use marijuana just as often, if not more, than I do. Some of them have problems managing their usage(being high during the day, in school, etc,.). I also have other friends who use it responsibly as I do, and they have no problems with it in their life.

Reality check: You're in college, you're young, you don't know what your talking about(an exaggeration, of course).

You say you go to LMU? I've got some friends there, some do some crazy drugs over there. You in a frat(99.99% chance)?

You say you spent 1/2 a semester baked? That doesn't seem very smart to me. You were responsible for choosing to smoke for that period of time. Marijuana didn't entice you. You most likely have other psychological issues that need sorting out, and your outlet for your problems was marijuana at that time.

You attempted to persuade others to smoke? I'm assuming you peer-pressured them? Another clue you might be in a frat. If you are consciously peer-pressuring people like that, see a therapist. Bully, anyone?

The point is that you are obviously ABUSING marijuana, just like people abuse every other drug on this planet, but you chose pot.

I'm not saying marijuana abuse doesn't cause any ill effects, because it obviously has to you. You need to understand that when you started ABUSING it, you should have said to yourself, hey, what am I doing? Anytime you make a lifestyle change such as smoking every day, you NEED to analyze it. That's what a responsible person does.

I really hope this isn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 years you end up with a vicodin addiction, because that is what "people were doing" at the time, and you were just a psychological mess, so you abused it. For your sake, don't let this abuse problem manifest itself in another drug, activity, [insert commonly abused thing here].


Overall, you probably used the following logic in your post:

Cause: Started smoking marijuana a lot.
Effect: It ruined my life.
Reality: You weren't happy with yourself prior to smoking a lot(that's a problem), and you ended up abusing marijuana, masking your emotional distress. Now here you are, complaining about marijuana hurting your life, when what really is hurting you isn't even in the post at all.

Also, about your "negative effects":

Those are the effects of depression(give or take a few).

You were depressed, you started smoking, it made it even worse, and here you are now. Probably still depressed inside, but hopefully finally accepting that. The world is a lot bigger than LMU, TRUST ME.

BTW:

I don't mean to sound like an asshole, I'm just laying it all on the table for you. I could be completely wrong about everything I said, because I don't know you, but maybe you will pull a little insight out of this post.

In response to this:

"Based on observations of myself and my close weed-smoking friends, marijuana slowly creeps up on you, and before you know it, you aren't who you thought you were or who you want to be. I really think huge potheads would be doing themselves a favor by asking themselves, "Is this truly the person I want to be?"

Listen. Smoking all day, every day, is a lifestyle change. Lifestyle changes CHANGE WHO YOU ARE. That's why they are called lifestyle changes. Its your conscious decision to change your life, by smoking every day, that is what actually catalyzes the changes.

All of my close friends, who have known me since WAY before I started smoking, tell me that I haven't changed at all. Why? Because I do the same shit I've always done from 9am - 9pm, except for when I smoke, usually by myself, at night.

Significance: It hasn't changed my life, or creeped up on me(lol), at all.

I don't tell people I smoke, and they would never notice. I enjoy it, my life is enriched, and life goes on.

Who Am I?

College student.
Self-employed, and own an IT consulting company.
On my way, to *hopefully* expanding my business(booo recession), and some day a family and kids.

Have my dreams been ruined by pot? You be the judge. As far as I'm concerned I'm right on track ;).

PEACE OUT

[Coelho]

^^^^ Excellent post! :thumbsup:

[maxsuperdanks]

Weed doesn't MAKE ANYONE DO/BE ANYTHING!


Weed doesn't hold you down and keep you from cleaning your room

Weed doesn't make you jump out of a window thinking you can fly (if you do this, you deserve to die anyways in my oppinion, via natural law, because you didn't try taking off from the ground first)

Weed doesn't MAKE you eat




Weed gives people an excuse to let themselves fuck their lives up.

[babyfaceisLEGAL]

It's just weed man. If you don't like it, don't do it; don't make it our problem. I understand that a bunch of you are all worked up over some kid's opinion of our precious greenery but it's just an opinion, he doesn't like it so like I said, it's his problem. I like the controversy though. I would say my famous "It's just pot, weed ain't.." but it'll just get deleted, so hopefully you all know what I'm getting at. It's only harmful if you let it get that way. Take care of yourselves and don't become a statistic.

I had my first joint at 13, making it five years since I've started smoking. I smoke daily, it's a part of who I am. I've never blamed weed for anything in my life, anything negative I brought on myself, not pot. Pot is a plant, nothing more to me. I smoke roughly 2 g's a day and when I was younger it was more. The only problem I've had with the goddess mary jane is that the bitch is too expensive. :P

[jdmarcus59]

:)
These are the stages of smoking that I went through up until now, starting in my sophomore year of high school. I am now a freshmen at Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles, and I spent about 1/2 of the first semester completely baked. However, I hope this time my abstinence will be permanent. I am posting this in order to both promote my own decision to quit smoking, and to assist anyone who may be blind to their own similar experiences.

Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.

2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: â??itâ??s been long enough,â?� and â??Iâ??ll only use occasionally.â?�
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical â??welcome backâ?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.


More personal observations:

Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression

So, after four years and thousands of bowls (literally), I am done. Oh, and please excuse my signature; I made it a long time ago.

Final 10 cents:
---Dennis Kucinich 08'!--- (He happens to be the most reasonable and peace-minded candidate. Watch him in debates and you too may realize that he is the one candidate capable of making huge, positive change in this country.) :thumbsup:
I belive that many times we blame a drug or a strong drink, when we should blame are selfs, we all have to ask are selfs why did we try this are that in the first place. mabey there is somthing wrong with us that makes us want to try somthing that will make us feel better, what wrong with us if we feel that we need somthing to make us feel better, in other words if it ant broke dont fix it.
so if you feel fine then why take somthing to change the way you feel?

[smokinjoe22]

this is a bunch of bs, ive smoked 1000's of bowls myself and i dont have these problems. but if you think it causes all of these problems why do u keep going back to it? because you like getting high so u dont realize your an idiot.

[FindingTim]

You come across as an arrogant dick right about here.

This is a classic freshman in college "I understand the world now" moment



Youre conveying your points as if youve come to some great realization and the rest of us are blinded by our addictions and love of cannabis because we cant relate to you. I find arrogance one of the most repulisive traits one can have, you seem to have it in spades.

First of all, I am amazed that this thread is still running... I started it in December, and tonight is my first time back on the web site.

As for your comment, I completely agree. As I was reading back over the thread I thought to myself, "that was a dickhead thing to say." So i apologize.

Anyways, I think many of you are making one crucial misjudgment: So many people continue to say, "It's you, not the weed." Listen, I am comfortable with my life and who I am as a person! That was never an issue.

Looking back, I think the best explanation is abuse. I never smoked lightly. It was always marathon-like smoking that lasted for weeks. I assume that this can cause mental issues for even the most intellectually gifted of people.

[FindingTim]

There are so many problems with your logic I don't even know where to start.

I'm 20 years old, and a sophomore in college. I have been smoking almost every day for the past year. Prior to that, I was a very casual smoker, some months smoking once or twice, or none at all. Less than 25 times per year. That was up until about a year ago.

Now, I smoke ONLY once per day, and always at night about an hour or two before sleep. Personally, I use it because I like the effects: relaxation, altered state of mind, increased laughter, etc,. I use it at night prior to sleep because it is the time of the day when I DON'T NEED to be productive: this is time I had previously spent watching tv sober, using the computer, etc,.

Now, I've made the decision to not smoke during the day, because I understand that would be irresponsible for me, and for my life. Marijuana isn't MAKING me use it all the time, I am the one that controls its usage. If you don't have the ability to exercise that discipline, you shouldn't be using it. Period. Learn to be accountable for your actions, something you probably have no concept of.

I have plenty of friends that use marijuana just as often, if not more, than I do. Some of them have problems managing their usage(being high during the day, in school, etc,.). I also have other friends who use it responsibly as I do, and they have no problems with it in their life.

Reality check: You're in college, you're young, you don't know what your talking about(an exaggeration, of course).

You say you go to LMU? I've got some friends there, some do some crazy drugs over there. You in a frat(99.99% chance)?

You say you spent 1/2 a semester baked? That doesn't seem very smart to me. You were responsible for choosing to smoke for that period of time. Marijuana didn't entice you. You most likely have other psychological issues that need sorting out, and your outlet for your problems was marijuana at that time.

You attempted to persuade others to smoke? I'm assuming you peer-pressured them? Another clue you might be in a frat. If you are consciously peer-pressuring people like that, see a therapist. Bully, anyone?

The point is that you are obviously ABUSING marijuana, just like people abuse every other drug on this planet, but you chose pot.

I'm not saying marijuana abuse doesn't cause any ill effects, because it obviously has to you. You need to understand that when you started ABUSING it, you should have said to yourself, hey, what am I doing? Anytime you make a lifestyle change such as smoking every day, you NEED to analyze it. That's what a responsible person does.

I really hope this isn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 years you end up with a vicodin addiction, because that is what "people were doing" at the time, and you were just a psychological mess, so you abused it. For your sake, don't let this abuse problem manifest itself in another drug, activity, [insert commonly abused thing here].


Overall, you probably used the following logic in your post:

Cause: Started smoking marijuana a lot.
Effect: It ruined my life.
Reality: You weren't happy with yourself prior to smoking a lot(that's a problem), and you ended up abusing marijuana, masking your emotional distress. Now here you are, complaining about marijuana hurting your life, when what really is hurting you isn't even in the post at all.

Also, about your "negative effects":

Those are the effects of depression(give or take a few).

You were depressed, you started smoking, it made it even worse, and here you are now. Probably still depressed inside, but hopefully finally accepting that. The world is a lot bigger than LMU, TRUST ME.

BTW:

I don't mean to sound like an asshole, I'm just laying it all on the table for you. I could be completely wrong about everything I said, because I don't know you, but maybe you will pull a little insight out of this post.

In response to this:

"Based on observations of myself and my close weed-smoking friends, marijuana slowly creeps up on you, and before you know it, you aren't who you thought you were or who you want to be. I really think huge potheads would be doing themselves a favor by asking themselves, "Is this truly the person I want to be?"

Listen. Smoking all day, every day, is a lifestyle change. Lifestyle changes CHANGE WHO YOU ARE. That's why they are called lifestyle changes. Its your conscious decision to change your life, by smoking every day, that is what actually catalyzes the changes.

All of my close friends, who have known me since WAY before I started smoking, tell me that I haven't changed at all. Why? Because I do the same shit I've always done from 9am - 9pm, except for when I smoke, usually by myself, at night.

Significance: It hasn't changed my life, or creeped up on me(lol), at all.

I don't tell people I smoke, and they would never notice. I enjoy it, my life is enriched, and life goes on.

Who Am I?

College student.
Self-employed, and own an IT consulting company.
On my way, to *hopefully* expanding my business(booo recession), and some day a family and kids.

Have my dreams been ruined by pot? You be the judge. As far as I'm concerned I'm right on track ;).

PEACE OUT


Does anyone else find the irony in this person calling me a "know-it-all."

Let's take a minute to reflect on some of his comments in his post:

"You say you spent 1/2 a semester baked? That doesn't seem very smart to me. You were responsible for choosing to smoke for that period of time. Marijuana didn't entice you. You most likely have other psychological issues that need sorting out, and your outlet for your problems was marijuana at that time.

You attempted to persuade others to smoke? I'm assuming you peer-pressured them? Another clue you might be in a frat. If you are consciously peer-pressuring people like that, see a therapist. Bully, anyone?


I really hope this isn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 years you end up with a vicodin addiction, because that is what "people were doing" at the time, and you were just a psychological mess, so you abused it. For your sake, don't let this abuse problem manifest itself in another drug, activity, [insert commonly abused thing here]."


I think that is all I need to say...

oh wait- there's more! Your vicodin prediction was proven incorrect when I dislocated my knee and was given loads of vicodin. As soon as the pain went away, I never thought about vicodin again.

[pyrar]

Does anyone else find the irony in this person calling me a "know-it-all."

Let's take a minute to reflect on some of his comments in his post:

"You say you spent 1/2 a semester baked? That doesn't seem very smart to me. You were responsible for choosing to smoke for that period of time. Marijuana didn't entice you. You most likely have other psychological issues that need sorting out, and your outlet for your problems was marijuana at that time.

You attempted to persuade others to smoke? I'm assuming you peer-pressured them? Another clue you might be in a frat. If you are consciously peer-pressuring people like that, see a therapist. Bully, anyone?


I really hope this isn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 years you end up with a vicodin addiction, because that is what "people were doing" at the time, and you were just a psychological mess, so you abused it. For your sake, don't let this abuse problem manifest itself in another drug, activity, [insert commonly abused thing here]."


I think that is all I need to say...

oh wait- there's more! Your vicodin prediction was proven incorrect when I dislocated my knee and was given loads of vicodin. As soon as the pain went away, I never thought about vicodin again.

I'm glad the vicodin wasn't a problem for you, opiates can be very addictive. Also, I didn't predict you would abuse vicodin, I said "I wouldn't be surprised". This assertion was based on the original post, in which you described yourself as an unstable addict. Was I way off base?

And you quoted some of my post...where was your reflection(it helps to be explicit)?

By the way, you in a frat? You never answered that question, and at this point, I'm just curious.

[pyrar]

Sorry to post again.

I wish you the best with your life and obviously I'm being the "asshole", but please understand everything I'm saying is for your own benefit. I'm not a know it all, I'd like to think I am in some things, but that's besides the point. I've seen a lot of friends have drug problems and so I've seen what it can do.

Also, you remind me of my best friend, who I've known for 15 years. He is an EXTREMELY intelligent person, but sometimes doesn't have complete focus. I noticed every 6 months to 1 year he would be a little bit different. Same person, but at one time he was smoking pot way too much. The next semester it was drinking too much. I'm not saying that's how you are, I just got that vibe from you. He was also in a frat(sigma chi), but he got over that. Point is, people change, they are continuously growing, and that's great.

Anyway, good luck to you, no hard feelings, and have fun in college!

[FindingTim]

I appreciate that you took the time to respond. Some of your assumptions are way off the mark (I am not in a frat), but some of what you say is reasonable and applicable to the situation. My plan, if anyone cares, is to smoke once a day at most, and only in the evening.


btw, thanks to everyone for feedback (both positive and negative)

[FindingTim]

actually, I was reading through your post again, and very little actually applies to me. You are so sure that I am depressed, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I think that if I was depressed at any time, it was because I realized that getting high was my top priority. That is a good reason to be depressed.

But I guarantee that if there was depression, it followed the marijuana use, and didn't lead up to it.