3 Week Old- problems

[Gatorade]

Looking Good?

[Bongojaz]

your plant has issues. how about some details so you can get some help. it doesn't look good, but the pics aren't too clear.

[Gatorade]

i think it might be nut burn but i didnt give it anything. ive been watering it with fresh rain water. The leafs were folded upward so i flushed it with hydrogen peroxide and fed her some water with epson salt. It looks better but the yellowing is persistent. It's in regular potting soil with a layer of lava rock at the bottom for drainage.

[klondike_bar]

may i suggest a possible relocation to the plant problems forums???

[stinkyattic]

Leaves folding upward indicates heat stress.
Flushing with peroxide- why did you do that?
Epsom salts is a good way to burn your plant and should only be used when you know you have a magnesium deficiency, and then I always recommend a foliar feed instead.
Now you have to flush all the salts out of there. You need lots of drain holes in your container. Lose the tinfoil- mylar or white paper is preferable. Get your temps down below 85 degrees TOPS.
Thank you KB for the WONDERFUL suggestion, I'll move this thread to plant problems just for you!

[Gatorade]

I flushed with hydrogen peroxide cause it kills the germs and put more oxygen in the soil
I read that if the leafs fold upwards it means it needs MG i put a pinch of salt to see if it would cure the folding leafs and it worked.
The Temp is around 65-70 Deg if not below 80 for sure, i have a fan in there.
I heard that putting foil inside prevents hot spots so i put it up.

[daihashi]

Tin foil creates hotspots, it doesn't prevent them. If you put the dull side out it helps to diffuse them but doesn't stop them.

I'm going to go with nute burn myself. What kind of soil is that?

I've read that rain water contains Nitrogen in it (I can't confirm if this is true). Which is what your burn looks like (I should know since I seem to be friggin notorious for burning my plants). Also what is the PH of the rain water you're adding to your plant?

If you could also tell us what kind of soil it is and type up the contents of the bag?

I'm no expert but just trying to get more information so the real guru's can help you. :)

[stinkyattic]

Rain water does contain N in the form of Nitric acid. And sulfur in the form of sulfuric acid. And carbon, in guess what form? :D
If you want to use rain water, you have to be prepared to pH test and adjust it every time.

'Praying for magnesium' is a myth. Mg def shows as very regular pale stripes between the veins.

You scorched the plants with Epsom salts.

[Gatorade]

I'm using scotts Farm and like i said i have a layer of lava rock at the bottom for extra drainage.The soil has no fertilizer at all just regular potting soil. i dont know the exact ph of the water cause i dont have any more ph kits atm. Its looking better its growing really fast. Here are more pics.

P.S Its very stinky

haha

[daihashi]

I'm using scotts Farm and like i said i have a layer of lava rock at the bottom for extra drainage.The soil has no fertilizer at all just regular potting soil. i dont know the exact ph of the water cause i dont have any more ph kits atm. Its looking better its growing really fast. Here are more pics.

P.S Its very stinky

haha

Which part of this is better? The edges of your leaves are curling more than they were in the previous pics. Maybe I just couldn't see it in the previous pics.

I just got back from shopping and I actually looked at the scotts farm stuff coincidentally (I hadn't read this post yet). All the packages contained ferts or plant foods of some sort. Maybe they don't sell the particular type of soil that you bought.

Again if you could type up the contents of the bag, front and back. I did so recently and someone was instantly able to help me find my problem.

And as far as ph kits. Go get one or a digital meter. I learned really fast that knowing your PH at all times is one of the most important things you can do. PH problems do some funky stuff.

I would ditch the rain water, go with distilled or get some tap water and PH it until the soil run off is between 6.3 - 6.8. The rain water may be too acidic for your soil and causing a number of issues.

That's all I can say with my limited knowledge. Hopefully someone will follow up and shed some more light.

Yay, all my massive screwups have not been in vain. I have learned a little bit.

[Gatorade]

I guess your right it has 0.08-0.05-0.05
Ingredients
Compost, sphagnum peat moss, a wetting agent and fertilizer
Total nitrogen (N)0.08%
0.02% ammoniacal nitrogen
0.02% nitrate nitrogen
0.04% urea nitrogen
Available phosphate (P2O5)0.05%
Soluble potash (K2O)0.05%
Derived from urea, ammonium phosphate, and
potassium nitrate.

The yellowing has somewhat stop spreading and is not as bad as before.
I'll stop using rain water and use distilled (aquafina Ok?).
I'm thinking about transplanting it into all organic BlackGold coco blend soil, is that any good?

[stinkyattic]

Looking much better. The plant is old enough and large enough now that it is appropriate for it to be in a soil with some ferts added. When it was younger, the exact same soil was too strong for it.
The leaf edge curl is only of limited concern at this time; keep your canopy temps down and the plant should recover.
Aquafina isn't distilled; it may have minerals in it that you don't want but that make the flavor better as drinking water. Just use plain old boring tap water. I even run HYDROPONICS on city water straight outta the tap, not even allowing it to sit out like many growers recommend. If your tap water is really unusually bad, rain water that you have adjusted to pH 6.5-6.8 before using is okay, or distilled water from the grocery store, but with both, you have to add calmag to it. Tap water is preferable. It already contains calcium that your plants need.

[Gatorade]

Here are some more pics
when the soil drys out im gonna try using sink water.
and soon i will be transplanting it into a 5 gallon pot.

[PharmaCan]

I grow in coco and I like it, but I don't know how coco mixed with soil would do???? They each have kind of different requirements. Whatever you choose for your medium, be sure to get some perlite and mix it in with the soil. It makes it drain better. You also need a pot with good drain holes. A regular, black plastic nursery pot is a lot better than the kind you have.

PC :smokin:

[stinkyattic]

Soil and coco do mix well; it's actually an ingredient in a couple of the better quality bagged soils. You just have to be certain that it's not going to scavenge calcium from your nutes. I'd mix in just a small amount of bone meal if you're going to add any significant amount of coco to a soil.

[daihashi]

your plant is looking much better. Glad to see it getting healthy again for you. :)

[Gatorade]

Thanks for all the help.
I try and put it in natural light whenever i can it reacts alot better than the artificial CFL lighting.
I took your advice and I drilled a few more holes at the bottom for more drainage.
I Havn't tried the sink water cause its still really moist.
As for the coco, i was talking about a bagged soil called black gold; coco blend.
Black gold being the brand, i wasnt gonna add coco by itself.

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