New growth curl?

[JoeSmoe]

I just got this plant from a friends friend about two days ago. It looks like a reveg to me seeing it has crystals all over it with some resin sacks also and of course all the weird leaves. I have it under 4 27w daylight cfls 24/7 along with a sour d clone and all the new growth seems to be curling under. The clone looks like it is going to do the same. They were bone dry when I got them so I watered with some natural spring water. Whats up with the under curl?? They seem to be growing fast.

[JoeSmoe]

Oh and temps in the cab are between 75-80F

[JoeSmoe]

Maybe lack of POTASSIUM???

[Weedhound]

abnormal ph/overwatering/overfert.....one or even ALL of them.

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[JoeSmoe]

How do I check the ph of the soil without watering again? I just watered a few days ago. How can I tell if its overferted? Im new to indoor growing and usually never have problems with the great outdoors.

[dr4bud]

Over watering and under watering often look the same. You recently received these plants from a friend? They can go through an adjustment in the environment change. They seem to be growing at an angle try using a chop stick or small stake to straighten it up.

[stinkyattic]

It's probably a good idea to flush now because you don't know what the previous owner was feeding the plant.

Check the runoff pH and then flush with water adjusted to compensate for any problems. Tap water is fine.

The final part of the flush should be a weak solution of a complete grow fert with micros, at 1/4 of what the bottle recommends.

Drill extra holes in the sides of the pot if you are concerned that the plant is not using water fast enough to dry the soil properly between waterings. This will increase oxygen to the root zone and plant health WILL improve.

[JoeSmoe]

Thanks for all the advice, Its growing at an angle because I bent it over so I could clone all the top shoots. I planned on getting clones and my cab just doesnt have the height to stand it up straight. Once I get it growing right I plan on cloning it and making some bonsai moms. I just checked the ph of the soil and its between 6-6.5. Im using spring water because I have sulphur well water. I havent flushed yet. Should I use the same spring water to flush with?

[stinkyattic]

Spring water from what source? Is it bottled mineral drinking water? That's likely to have added minerals for flavor, and can interfere with your feeding. Use distilled or RO water with added calmag, and bring your pH up to 6.5-6.8.

[JoeSmoe]

Its Hood Natural Spring water from good old Vermont. Ill look for distilled or RO water around town.

[stinkyattic]

Distilled water you can find at a supermarket or pharmacy. Vermont, eh? Howdy neighbah.
You might try a test plant (bagseeds are good for this) using your tap water with the sulfur in it. Plants DO need sulfur, and deficiency symptoms include reddish petioles.

[JoeSmoe]

I just got my soil reports from the lab lol(in the bathroom) on my run off water from little clone with spring water.

Soil Tester ratings

4 Surplus
3 Sufficient
2 Adequate
1 Deficient
0 Depleted

Nitrogen - 4 Surplus off the chart

Potassium - 1 Deficient

Phosphorus - 3 Sufficient

PH - 6-6.5 closer to 6.5

Ill be flushing the bigger plant with RO or distilled water

[JoeSmoe]

I like to see Vermonts on the site. I have some bagseed waiting to sprout. We call it the bush. I got the seeds from an oldtimer thats been working on his strain since the 80s. Shit smells like you have a pissed off skunk in your pocket!

[stinkyattic]

Deep green very soft growth is consistent with N toxicity. You in Southern VT? Head down to the little shop behind the laundromat in Putney Center, right on Rt. 5 across from the paper mill, pick up some nice cannabis-specific fert, the shopkeeper has a huge selection and competitive prices. Plus you get to see an Omega garden set up, bonus!
Pissed off skunk? 80's? Local dude? Lucky you... an acclimated classic local Skunk relative!!! Man if we all had bagseeds like that, 'bagseed' wouldn't be a complaint.
You ever run across something called VT Green Lifesaver? That's running up more towards Bellows Falls/White River.
I'm not a Vermonter yet, I'm just across into MA, but I used to tend bar at the Pub Out Back in East Burke and lived in Wheelock (just SW of Lyndonville). I'll be moving to southern VT permanently in a couple years if all goes as planned.

[JoeSmoe]

Im more central VT. Ya he says that its original skunkxafganixhashxbigbud years of breeding = the BUSH. Never heard of VT Green Lifesaver. Seems like everyone around here and I mean everyone has there own special blends, well it is Vermont.

[JoeSmoe]

Calmag? Where would I pick some up? I dont live near any grow shops, is it a common fert?

[JoeSmoe]

Today day one after the flush and now all stems main and leaf are now purple, along with purple on some of the leaves. The new growth hasnt changed at all. Since my Phosphorus test was ok Im thinking a Magnesium Def? Or maybe Potassium Def? What do you think??

[stinkyattic]

For the last step of the flush, did you water with a weak solution of a complete fertilizer with micros? That's an important step. In your case, I'd use a bloom fert for the flush, since I see no evidence that the plant is N deficient at all. I'd also drill some extra holes in that pot to dry it out faster. This is especially important in winter when it's cold. I'm seeing a lot of cold/wet combo related issues come through here since the weather has turned wintry.

[JoeSmoe]

I wasnt able to cmplete the lush with a fertilizer all I have is 10-50-10. Would that work if I did a 1/4 of what they recommend? It has boron, copper, iron, manganese, molybdenum and zinc. Is it to late maybe wait till next watering. And yes I drilled extra holes

[stinkyattic]

Good. Yeah, you can use that fert for the last flush step, and 1/4 is good strength.

[JoeSmoe]

Should I wait till the next watering or water with fert now? I flushed 2 days ago. Also the fert says 1 tble spoon for outdoor plants and 1 teaspoons for indoor should I use 1/4 tble or 1/4 teaspoon?

[stinkyattic]

Split the difference and go for a half teaspoon. You're growing your herb more aggressively, and under far more intense light, than Auntie Bess grows her geraniums! :D
Now's the time to do it, too.

[JoeSmoe]

I just gave them a good dose. Would it help if I sprayed it on the leaves also. I hope all this stress on them doesnt turn them hermi. And thank you for all your help.

[Weedhound]

my aunt Bessie grows the HELL out of her geraniums....:D

[JoeSmoe]

Here is a picture update. Ive noticed on the revegged one it is still producing white hairs on the new growth. It has been under 24/7 light for 11 days now is this normal? Leaves are picking up some but still have the claw shape. As you can see leaves are still turning purple then brown. Most are starting on the tips. From everything I have read says Magnesium def. what do you think??