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4.2O
12-11-2007, 06:05 AM
The world population continues to rise at a very rapid pace.
The population will be like double what it is now in MY lifetime.

Eventually we will have to do SOMETHING.
What do you think the answer is?
Laws restricting the number of kids we can have?
Space Colonization?
Genocide?

Its scary to think about because you know something DRASTIC will have to happen. The Earth simply cannot support the number of people who will be living in this world in the not so distant future?

Interesting tidbit from a geography class last week:
1 out of every 6 people in the world is a chinese peasant!

Frickr
12-11-2007, 06:17 AM
aldeady started seeing the effects of it already. there are people starving all over the world for lack of food... the poorer countries are going to be what are the hardest hit... ones that cant afford all the advances in agriculture... quite simply we are going to run out of food and fresh water sometime soon. maybe the whole global warming issue that were dealing with now, is natures way of keeping the population in check. i live in north dakota, and this year was the first year since 1999 that we have had a decent wheat crop on my side of the state... the other side of the state has been dealing with flooding ours drought. now if it were to happen on a much broader scale, which it has started to happen already, the food shortage will be much more worse then it would be due to just population growth. now if on top of this all, we go through a couple of really hot years, then the temp plummits into an ice age, thing of how many people will die from that. if half the earth is covored in ice, there will be epic food shortages, epic water shortages, and genocide of many animals. whatever may happen, our generation is on the verge of something major happening for the worst. by the end of the centry, a epic disaster will happen. best we can do right now is try to live the best we can and hope we dont add anymore the problems that are starting to unfold

Htown2007
12-11-2007, 06:36 AM
All these poor people without food and here we our in America, thinking about which day of the week we wonna smoke mary jane on. My goodness. hah

dragonrider
12-11-2007, 08:00 AM
We will either solve the problem ourselves or nature will solve it for us through ecological collapse, economic collapse, social collapse, starvation, disease, and war. People in a lot of the world are intimately aware of hunger and they know exactly where thier food comes from. Most people in this country do not know where their food comes from or how the economy, the environment, and the climate contribute to what they eat. A sudden change in the cimate is likely to result in a lot of people in this country and the rest of the world getting a good lesson in hunger, starvation, and ultimately cannibalism.

Breukelen advocaat
12-11-2007, 08:23 AM
The Chinese have the right idea in their concept of no more than one child per marriage. They haven't acheived that goal yet, but at least they are trying.

There is an expression I've heard from parents who declare that by having children they've "contributed to the population". The exact opposite is true. The less you procreate, the better it is for the human race, the earth's ecology and other species.

beachguy in thongs
12-11-2007, 09:12 AM
We can all live on the estates of the rich people. They can't control all of us vagabonds.

stinkyattic
12-11-2007, 11:18 AM
The Chinese have the right idea in their concept of no more than one child per marriage. They haven't acheived that goal yet, but at least they are trying.

Yeah. Good idea, tragically implemented. I fail to see how forced hysterectomies for women who have had multiple pregnancies is the 'right idea'. And the issue that better-off Chinese families can now afford to have ultrasounds and abort the 'undesirable' female fetuses. It's just one happy place, huh?

Your new avatar, by the way, is in exceptionally poor taste. Maybe you should stick to the evils of grain as a cause- In case you haven't noticed, a lot of our members have, and cherish, their own families.

beachguy in thongs
12-11-2007, 11:20 AM
Your new avatar (breukelen advocaat), by the way, is in exceptionally poor taste. Maybe you should stick to the evils of grain as a cause- In case you haven't noticed, a lot of our members have, and cherish, their own families.

He's only trying to say that he doesn't want a baby with a beer-gut.

Or, bow legs. I can't tell.

fasterspider
12-11-2007, 01:34 PM
The world population continues to rise at a very rapid pace.
The population will be like double what it is now in MY lifetime.

Eventually we will have to do SOMETHING.
What do you think the answer is?
Laws restricting the number of kids we can have?
Space Colonization?
Genocide?

Its scary to think about because you know something DRASTIC will have to happen. The Earth simply cannot support the number of people who will be living in this world in the not so distant future?

Interesting tidbit from a geography class last week:
1 out of every 6 people in the world is a chinese peasant!

I am all for the genocide and totally eliminating all 3rd world countries.
Pretty much everyone on the planet would have to die if I had my way and only enough people would be allowed to keep me in oil & gas for my motorcycles, tires, riding gear and food.

geonagual
12-11-2007, 04:31 PM
the weight from all the people is going to knock the earth off its axis and send it hurdling toward the sun..We are ALL gonna die!

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dragonrider
12-11-2007, 04:55 PM
As standsrds of living rise, people tend to have fewer children. Some of the most developed countries actually have decreasing populations --- there are several with negative population growth in Europe. The US has nearly zero population growth due to birthrate --- it continues to grow through immigration.

If you live in a very poor country, children are your economic security, because they can go to work to help bring money into the family and they can support you in your old age.

If you live in a wealthy country, children are costly because you have to raise them in an expensive society and do things like pay for braces for their teeth and put them through college. And if your country has something like Social Security, or you earn enough to fund your retirement, you don't need children as much to see you through your old age.

If the rest of the world develops more economically, then maybe population growth will stabilize. Of course, if the rest of the world develops more economically, they will also want more consumer goods --- fewer people, but each one consuming more resources.

Markass
12-11-2007, 05:04 PM
The world population continues to rise at a very rapid pace.
The population will be like double what it is now in MY lifetime.

Eventually we will have to do SOMETHING.
What do you think the answer is?
Laws restricting the number of kids we can have?
Space Colonization?
Genocide?

Its scary to think about because you know something DRASTIC will have to happen. The Earth simply cannot support the number of people who will be living in this world in the not so distant future?

Interesting tidbit from a geography class last week:
1 out of every 6 people in the world is a chinese peasant!

I know what they're going to do about it in America...Tobacco is one of them...alcohol is another

Nation_1ne
12-11-2007, 05:07 PM
Theres so many different things to worry about I don't think much will ever get done.

Breukelen advocaat
12-11-2007, 05:14 PM
Here's an article from an Australian medical journal.

Parents should be taxed $5,000 for extra kids

Tamara McLean
December 10, 2007 05:17pm


Parents who have three or more babies should be charged a lifelong tax to offset the carbon emissions their extra children produce, a medical expert says.
A new report published in an Australian medical journal has called for parents to be charged $5,000 a head for every child after their second, and an annual tax of up to $800 every year thereafter.

And couples who get sterilised would be eligible for carbon credits under the controversial proposal.

Perth specialist Professor Barry Walters is heavily critical of the $4,000 baby bonus, saying that paying new parents extra for every baby fuels more children, more emissions and "greenhouse-unfriendly behaviour''.

Instead, it should be replaced with a "baby levy'' in the form of a carbon tax in line with the "polluter pays'' principle, he wrote in the latest Medical Journal of Australia.

"Every family choosing to have more than a defined number of children should be charged a carbon tax that would fund the planting of enough trees to offset the carbon cost generated by a new human being,'' said Prof Walters, an obstetrician at King Edward Memorial Hospital in Perth.

Sustainable Population Australia suggested a maximum of two, he said.

By the same reasoning, contraceptives like diaphragms and condoms, as well as sterilisation procedures, should attract carbon credits, the specialist said.

"As doctors, I believe we need to think this way,'' he wrote in a letter to the journal.

"As Australians I believe we need to be less arrogant."

"As citizens of the world, I believe we deserve no more population concessions than those in India or China.''

Professor Garry Egger, director of the NSW Centre for Health Promotion and Research, agreed with the call, saying former treasurer Peter Costello's request for three children per family - "one for mum, one for dad and one for the country'' - was too single-minded.

"Population remains crucial to all environmental considerations,'' wrote Prof Eggers, a leading advocate of the personal carbon trading debate.

"The debate (around population control) needs to be reopened as part of a second ecological revolution.''

Family groups have rejected the calls, saying larger families use less energy than smaller ones and therefore should not be penalised.

AAP

killerweed420
12-11-2007, 07:18 PM
All we need is another good old fashion world war to straighten the population problem out again. Elect Rudy he should be able to get the job done with his limited mental capabilities.

Coelho
12-11-2007, 08:19 PM
Have you heard about Thomas Malthus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus)?

"The power of population is so superior to the power of the earth to produce subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the human race. The vices of mankind are active and able ministers of depopulation. They are the precursors in the great army of destruction, and often finish the dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in this war of extermination, sickly seasons, epidemics, pestilence, and plague advance in terrific array, and sweep off their thousands and tens of thousands. Should success be still incomplete, gigantic inevitable famine stalks in the rear, and with one mighty blow levels the population with the food of the world."


I am all for the genocide and totally eliminating all 3rd world countries.

Well... i wont expose here my own opinion concerning your country... the very least that would happen to me is a perma ban (as most of mods here also are from u.s.a.)
Anyway... i will let the sands of the time revenge it. My 3rd world's country has NO natural catastrophes (NO hurricanes, NO uncontrolable fires, NO earthquakes)... my country is not target of crazy terrorists, nor of the worlds hate... it has a LOT of oil... it has a PLENTY of water (in fact it has most of the worlds drinkable water) and it will be a serious issue in the future... it has a very good climate, a very fertile land... so we dont need to buy food from another countries... in fact, we export food to many countries (including yours... if you drink coffee thank US!) And all this things are more important each day... so soon there will come the day when you from this so beloved country of yours will envy us here... and i sincerely hope live enough to see it all.

Zcomp
12-11-2007, 08:40 PM
First off, mother nature is all powerfull. She balances the in-balance. Gays and lesbians will not produce kids(for the most part). Disease is always an option. but if we don't want to end up on mother natures bad side, I suggest we start issuing licenses to birth. Alot of people are in no position to support a child mentally or financially.
But because sex is the only legal drug left(That actually makes you feel good), Child birth rates will continue to rise. Our only hope is to start thinking a little more realistically. Over population will kill all of us.

Breukelen advocaat
12-11-2007, 08:46 PM
Well... i wont expose here my own opinion concerning your country... the very least that would happen to me is a perma ban (as most of mods here also are from u.s.a.)
so soon there will come the day when you from this so beloved country of yours will envy us here... and i sincerely hope live enough to see it all.

The murder rate in your country, Brazil, is over four times higher than the United States'. Other crimes rates there are equally high, and most go unsolved.

Brazil (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1072.html)

MasterKief
12-11-2007, 08:47 PM
My father owns about 15 acres or so up in the Adirondacks... Worst comes to worse I'm moving up there and building 10' fences around the entire thing! :D

CanaDanKs Inc.
12-11-2007, 09:04 PM
We could start eating each other..
No more overcrowding, no more starving.

and that's a double whammy!

Breukelen advocaat
12-11-2007, 09:07 PM
We could start eating each other..


We may see that day sooner than we think.

Reefer Rogue
12-12-2007, 07:22 PM
Follow Chinas example.

Rusty Trichome
12-12-2007, 07:37 PM
The Chinese have the right idea in their concept of no more than one child per marriage. They haven't acheived that goal yet, but at least they are trying.

Yes, at least they are trying.
This is a rumor I heard not long ago on TV, but one of the problems with that Chinese law are, that if they don't get the baby (male) they want, it tends to turn-up dead. (can't remember the show, otherwise I wouldn't preface it with the rumor label)

Chong Version 2.0
12-12-2007, 08:59 PM
If everybody would just have a kid to replace themselves, the global population would stagnate in the next couple of generations. I blame religion for this careless multiplying. "We're going to Heaven y'all!"

homestar
12-12-2007, 09:09 PM
why are we having kids? we're just havin sex here, dammit!

StickyfingahZ
12-12-2007, 09:15 PM
The world population continues to rise at a very rapid pace.
The population will be like double what it is now in MY lifetime.

Eventually we will have to do SOMETHING.
What do you think the answer is?
Laws restricting the number of kids we can have?
Space Colonization?
Genocide?



Thats why we have places like Oakland....and Detroit.
I saw a thread in here where someone said there is a murder everyday in their city.....Baltimore....in that thread "Lady attacked on a public Bus"
Plus we have Tond of people dieing in Iraq and all over.....abortions and everything....I aint too worried.

Innominate
12-13-2007, 04:59 AM
Prepare for anything.

Hopefully people will be smart enough to learn that getting married and having children at a young age is a dumbfounded decision.

We need to stop motivating the people to get married and have children. We need other people to survive, but too much is enough, and what we are doing now is not helping.

4.2O
12-13-2007, 05:20 AM
The murder rate in your country, Brazil, is over four times higher than the United States'. Other crimes rates there are equally high, and most go unsolved.

Brazil (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1072.html)


nah man, Brazil is a pretty good country.
i read an article the other day that said they will be totally self-reliant on oil by 2011. Wish we could say that about the US. It is the economic and political power of Latin America. AND they have some hot chicks.

And if there are lots of murders that would only help contribute to the problem my thread wanted to discuss. People need to realize that if we said certain things now it would be considered "distasteful" or "unsympathetic" but eventually we will have no option. The sad truth is that I personally believe we will have to start killing off those people who are statistically less likely to do anything good for the world. It's terrible but the Earth's carrying capacity simply isn't high enough for the rate we are making babies. Sex just feels too good i guess..

Mother Nature or a war wont stop the population rise. If I am lucky enough to live to see 110 there will be 4 times as many people on this planet as there currently are. Check out the graph....

Everyday Struggle
12-13-2007, 06:14 AM
If you want to help then don't have kids and just adopt some!!!
You can love them just the same! :)

mamma puffpuff420
12-13-2007, 09:43 AM
it is sad 2c what we r doing 2 our world
this is all there is folk's
we need 2 start takeing better care of it
any way we can
it kinda scare's the fuck outta me ta tell ya the truth
and make's me terribley sad
the older people have already fucked up
it's up 2 our young people 2 take controll and start helpin our furure, or what there is left of it
God b with our younger generation

Staurm
12-13-2007, 11:06 AM
Laws restricting the number of kids we can have?


There was a discussion on this on the radio recently, and someone pointed out a major flaw in this strategy - we would eventually end up with an increasingly aged population and too few young healthy adults to look after them.

For starters I'd say get rid off the war mongering totalitarian governments of the world? How? Don't ask me that.

More seriously, it might help if everyone stopped eating so much meat. I'm not suggesting everyone turns vegetarian, but we need to cut down our consumption of meat since it requires a lot more land to produce than vegetarian sources of nutrition.

Secondly, we need to start rolling out sustainable technologies to meet global energy demands, I think we should be developing solar power technology whilst we still have enough fossil fuels to do so.

Peruvian Devil
12-13-2007, 01:18 PM
hmm if there was a way to control our population it would probably be a virus, a virus that completely destroys our immune so that other virus can easily kill us, oh and also it probably will be transfered when people try to procreate that way everyone trying to make more of us will be in danger. Lets face it nature is controlling the population already, at least i hope its nature :stoned:

Stemis516
12-13-2007, 01:52 PM
meh, if everyone in the world gathered in the same place and stood an arms length apart form each other we could fit us all in texas.....do the calculations, seriously


were not running out of room

clearly, as demonstrated here in the states and other well off nations were not running out of food either.....its just the issue of equal and fair distribution that we need to worry about because everyone deserves food

420izzle
12-13-2007, 05:23 PM
Eugenics. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&q=endgame&total=2579&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1) WAKE UP PEOPLE! The Endgame...It's already underway! And you are part of it, one way or another. Educate yourselves, draw your line in the sand and be ready.

Ron Paul 2008 (http://www.ronpaul2008.com)

Nightcrewman
12-13-2007, 05:39 PM
We will have to build bigger cities in what we consider unhospitable places, like in the desert, under the sea or floating on the sea, that would take care of the where to put people situation, we would then have to find a better source of energy something clean like solar or wind power on a bigger scale than we do now.
Feeding the population would need to be by using genetically modified crops that could grow say in the desert.
We could move into space either on another planet or on huge cities floating above the earth, failing that we could all just kill and eat our neighbours, there are lots of viable solutions.

Cheers

NCM

Coelho
12-13-2007, 08:16 PM
hmm if there was a way to control our population it would probably be a virus, a virus that completely destroys our immune so that other virus can easily kill us, oh and also it probably will be transfered when people try to procreate that way everyone trying to make more of us will be in danger. Lets face it nature is controlling the population already, at least i hope its nature :stoned:

This virus already exists... its called HIV. And i also would like to think that it is a nature creation, but im sure its not...

BudGrower
12-13-2007, 09:29 PM
The world would be much better off with only about 4 or 5 Billion. As population grows, there will eventually be some kind of compulsory social engineering, and hopefully it will be humane, not like Hitler's Germany.

Tony1234567890
12-13-2007, 09:58 PM
What will we do? Go 50 miles in ANY direction and you will be in the middle of fucking nowehere :) buy property, when you get old you can sell it and retire.

There is no such thing as over crowding or over population except in Tokyo. I live in the suburbs of Los Angeles and if I take the I10 (main east/west artery in SoCal) east for 20 miles I am in the middle of nowhere. If I take the I5 (again, major north/south artery in SoCal) more then 30 miles, I am in the middle of nowhere and this is Los Angeles, not Iowa, Montana, Nebreska, Idaho, Dakotas, Colorado, etc.

The population could explode by 20 in the next 100 years and we still wouldn't run out of space.

More housing = more jobs = more stores = more everything.

Breukelen advocaat
12-13-2007, 10:07 PM
Overpopulation has caused starvation, disease, genocide and many other problems that a significant percentage of the world is going through. We don't see it much in our society, but it's very much out there if you care to look. And, it's going to get worse if measures aren't taken to control it.

meatw4d
12-13-2007, 10:56 PM
The ground is getting crowded? No problem...

solid6
12-14-2007, 02:30 AM
meh, if everyone in the world gathered in the same place and stood an arms length apart form each other we could fit us all in texas.....do the calculations, seriously

carbon dioxide.

dragonrider
12-14-2007, 06:06 PM
People need to realize that if we said certain things now it would be considered "distasteful" or "unsympathetic" but eventually we will have no option. The sad truth is that I personally believe we will have to start killing off those people who are statistically less likely to do anything good for the world. It's terrible but the Earth's carrying capacity simply isn't high enough for the rate we are making babies. Sex just feels too good i guess...

This sounds a bit Nazi too me. Who is going to decide who deserves to live? You? A bunch of white guys? A bunch of black guys?

Don't worry too much about this. After The Collapse, natural selection will decide who is fit enough to survive, so there's no need to get a jump on it by killing off the weak.


meh, if everyone in the world gathered in the same place and stood an arms length apart form each other we could fit us all in texas.....do the calculations, seriously


were not running out of room

The problem is not running out of space to stand. The problem is running out of resources and places to put our waste. It takes many acres of land to produce all that a single person consumes. And apparenlty the entire planet is not enough space to put all of our CO2. As you said, "do the calculations, seriously."


clearly, as demonstrated here in the states and other well off nations were not running out of food either.....its just the issue of equal and fair distribution that we need to worry about because everyone deserves food

People eat well in the developed countries, but a lot of that food comes from other places. You are right that "everyone deserves food." But in many cases we eat well BECAUSE of unfair and unequal distribution that takes food away from other people.

One example is fish that are caught by large commercial fishing business and are frozen and sold in the US and in Europe --- the fish are overfished in other countries, leaving nothing for locals to eat, causing starvation, disease, and death. There are many examples of this kind of thing, not just in relation to fishing --- it happens when a commercial interest can take control of a local resource and sell it to the highest bidder all over the globe. Local poor people lose out, and rich developed countries get the resource and are seldom even aware where it came from. You might think there is no food problem, because your store is always stocked, but that food came from somewhere --- maybe right out of someone elses mouth.


Go 50 miles in ANY direction and you will be in the middle of fucking nowehere :) buy property, when you get old you can sell it and retire.

There is no such thing as over crowding or over population except in Tokyo. I live in the suburbs of Los Angeles and if I take the I10 (main east/west artery in SoCal) east for 20 miles I am in the middle of nowhere. If I take the I5 (again, major north/south artery in SoCal) more then 30 miles, I am in the middle of nowhere and this is Los Angeles, not Iowa, Montana, Nebreska, Idaho, Dakotas, Colorado, etc.

The population could explode by 20 in the next 100 years and we still wouldn't run out of space.

More housing = more jobs = more stores = more everything.

The problem is not space, it is resources. You live in LA, which is a prime example. There is plenty of room for the people, and plenty of room to build more houses, shopping malls, etc., but not enough water. Even 60 years ago there was not enough water.

You say you can go 50 miles in any direction and you will be in the middle of nowhere. Years ago, LA bought water rights in the Owens valley and destroyed the agricultural industry there. It may have seemed like the middle of nowhere to people in LA, but people did make a nice life there in the middle of nowhere, and overpopulation in LA caused LA to take those people's resources and destroy those people's nice lives. Now LA draws water from hundreds of miles away, and draws other resources from all over the planet.

Overpopulation is the root of all the other enviromental problems. There is not enough food, water, fuel and other resources for all the people. In the developed world, our economies allow us to get those resources from other places, but all the money in the world won't buy us any more when the planet just plain runs out.

dragonrider
12-14-2007, 07:57 PM
Have you heard about Thomas Malthus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus)?

"The power of population is so superior to the power of the earth to produce subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the human race. The vices of mankind are active and able ministers of depopulation. They are the precursors in the great army of destruction, and often finish the dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in this war of extermination, sickly seasons, epidemics, pestilence, and plague advance in terrific array, and sweep off their thousands and tens of thousands. Should success be still incomplete, gigantic inevitable famine stalks in the rear, and with one mighty blow levels the population with the food of the world."

Many people thought Malthus was wrong because he predicted a huge collapse of population long ago, and it did not happen. But the reason it did not happen was that during the colonial era, more and more resources were disocevered around the world, and new industrial farming techniques were discovered that increased crop yields, and those factors delayed the day of reconing. Now there are no new undiscovered resources to exploit, and we find that those industrial farmng techniques actually deplete the land to the point where they become less productive over time, and still our population grows. Malthus will probably be proved right within our own lifetimes.

snowblind
12-15-2007, 12:07 AM
how about rather than western countries wasting massive budgets on the military, we invest it in nations that need it. then help them stabalise their economies and develop themselves.

then we will have places to migrate.

i also think there should be no social benefits for people who get pregnent and are under 21 in the uk.

and benefits should be drastically cut after the first child, with nothing for the 3rd child and any after.

you want kids you should be able to pay for them

SantaClawz
12-15-2007, 12:18 AM
Survival of the fittest.

MadSativa
12-15-2007, 12:22 AM
Their is still enough room for everybody, Even if the population doubles, tripples, the major citties will build bigger housing more everything, We wont have yards or things like that anymore but, people who live in Shanghigh usualy dont even have kitchens just a closet with a bed and a toilet. In Tokyo they are building the first building city, I think in the next 100 years or so these building cities will be everywhere. If the Space aliens or the Religons dont kill us then Sky City in Japan is the future. It is only logical before we can colinize space we will have to live here.

Sky City 1000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_City_1000)

it says a possible future but they have already laid out foundation and started building, it is very impresive, everything from water purification, housing and food distibution, jobs, shops, are their. No need for a car if you work, and live in the sky city.

dragonrider
12-15-2007, 07:56 AM
Things like the Sky City relieve the problems of overcrowding, not the problems of overpopulation. We will always have enough room to put people, even without things like the Sky City. But we will not always have enough food, water and energy if population keeps growing.

LazySmoking420
12-15-2007, 08:10 AM
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

marijuanavillebilly
12-15-2007, 12:36 PM
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

hell yeah but off subject.

start a war. only people that fight are middle and lower class of the economy.

Box215
12-15-2007, 05:07 PM
United States:
Population 302,993,000
Land Area 3,793,079

China:
Population 1,321,851,888
Land Area 3,704,427

in other words, at least here, theres still A LOT of room left. Not really worried about overcrowding

twitch
12-15-2007, 05:14 PM
United States:
Population 302,993,000
Land Area 3,793,079

China:
Population 1,321,851,888
Land Area 3,704,427

in other words, at least here, theres still A LOT of room left. Not really worried about overcrowding

i cant speak for other countries but there is still a whole mess of room here lol

no that is not an invitation...

Chronisseur
12-15-2007, 05:34 PM
I say we execute the rapists, pedophiles, murderers and Michael Vicks of the world...

FUCK 'EM ALL!


...of course then we would have to rebuild the whole white house!;)

snowblind
12-15-2007, 06:33 PM
shoot everyone with an iq less than 120


:)

solid6
12-19-2007, 05:50 PM
The problem is not running out of space to stand. The problem is running out of resources and places to put our waste. It takes many acres of land to produce all that a single person consumes. And apparenlty the entire planet is not enough space to put all of our CO2. As you said, "do the calculations, seriously."

Well said. And overpopulation is a big problem, using the biologic rule it would be estimated that the population doubles in 60 years.

Oil_Man
12-19-2007, 06:00 PM
were gonna need another hitler to even things out, but hit a larger mass of people, i say the christains and catholics

Oil_Man
12-19-2007, 06:01 PM
shoot everyone with an iq less than 120


:)

That would be a really good idea probley lol, are world wouldnt be as dumb maybe, but smart people do alot of stupid shit to, they ussally have the money to

Zcomp
12-19-2007, 08:28 PM
If we're gonna make the world smarter, why not thinner too, say everyone thats "morbidly obese" goes too.

40oz
12-19-2007, 08:34 PM
heres my solution, illustrated nicely by this calvin and hobbes comic which is great....

Breukelen advocaat
12-19-2007, 08:36 PM
shoot everyone with an iq less than 120


:)

Would you really be willing to be shot?:rasta:

stinkyattic
12-19-2007, 08:38 PM
BA thank you for that snide commentary on snowblind's intelligence. That sort of thing doesn't go unnoticed.