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Tony1234567890
12-08-2007, 10:42 PM
I'd love to see the MJ legal like beer. Walk into a corner store and buy an 1/8th like you're buying six pack.

In all honesty, do you think we'll see that in our life time?

Sandman27
12-09-2007, 01:45 AM
No. Part of me thinks it would be AWESOME, but the other part of me fears it. If the government did it then prices would go up, there would be taxes also. Brands like cigarettes would take over the industry. It sounds alight, but considering pot is mostly enjoyed by those who dislike the government and big buisness, and we would be buying directly from them.

If it became legal some sort of system like a breatholizer must be needed for those driving impared. Sounds like alot of work to be done in lets say 80 years.

BlueNWhite
12-09-2007, 03:04 AM
no i wish

Droplet
12-09-2007, 04:15 AM
I herd Ron Paul is promising something like this.

GanjaMan7
12-09-2007, 05:32 AM
No. Part of me thinks it would be AWESOME, but the other part of me fears it. If the government did it then prices would go up, there would be taxes also. Brands like cigarettes would take over the industry. It sounds alight, but considering pot is mostly enjoyed by those who dislike the government and big buisness, and we would be buying directly from them.

If it became legal some sort of system like a breatholizer must be needed for those driving impared. Sounds like alot of work to be done in lets say 80 years.

Prices would actually drop dramatically. Marijuana is one of the most versatile plants on the planet. It is extremely easy to cultivate. Many places in South American where marijuana laws are slack or ignored, weed can go for a few bucks per pound. One con of legalization would be that the government would ban the cultivation of marijuana by citizens, in order to make a profit. They did this with tobacco too. But hey, that would still be much better than the insane laws we have in place now.

DAY-DREAMER-MAN
12-09-2007, 05:45 AM
in my dreams its legal already:hippy:

bobthenuker
12-09-2007, 06:11 PM
More decriminalization would be a better goal in my opinion, no one should go to jail for pot.

robo scat
12-09-2007, 06:15 PM
I dunno but we wouldn't have as much diversity in strains as we do on the illegal market today. Just a thought.

WaZ
12-10-2007, 01:35 AM
Some of my friends think so, but I don't know. It's already legal in the US in some states. Not all US citizens understand what that means, however.

4.2O
12-10-2007, 06:02 AM
I hope everyday that I see this.
I at least may want to move to Canada or a decriminalized state if it doesnt hppen.
I think there is a chance. Some people are finally starting to see the truth. Governors, Senators and even 08 presedential candidate, RON PAUL. Vote for him...theres hope for the country.

BlazedinBA
12-10-2007, 06:13 AM
yes ive heard the same about ron paul...hes got my vote!!! :stoned:


think about it, prohibition for alcohol could only last so long in america, why not the same for MJ?

WaZ
12-10-2007, 06:38 AM
yes ive heard the same about ron paul...hes got my vote!!! :stoned:


think about it, prohibition for alcohol could only last so long in america, why not the same for MJ?

It was easy for alcohol prohibition to be repealed because the people who were fighting against the ban could remember what it was like and that everybody did it. Everyone's just now slowly re-learning the mildness of Cannabis.

TheDefiler
12-10-2007, 02:59 PM
yes ive heard the same about ron paul...hes got my vote!!! :stoned:


think about it, prohibition for alcohol could only last so long in america, why not the same for MJ?

Because MJ has alot more forces working against it. Not like the old bags of the temperance movement. The Government, Pharmaceutical companies, and fiber producers (cotton, wood, etc) are all against MJ/Hemp.

Too bad, cause this world really would be a better place if everyone would just toke up. :jointsmile:

Infamous
12-10-2007, 03:11 PM
It wont happen. As GanjaMan7 rightly said...its one of the most versatile plants on the planet. This also means it can grow in even the most difficult environments and to be honest doesnt need really need any care to grow weed. You could go out and plant some clones, return a few months later and theres a very good chance of it having bud. This is where the problem lies. Anything that is that simple to grow cant be taxed. The government would tax the sale of it via their "official distributors" which would mean everyone would just go back to buying from the growers for less due to it being untaxed. Its a no win for the government.

TheDefiler
12-10-2007, 03:56 PM
That doesn't explain anything cause u can bootleg booze too but they still sell that. There are ways around everything, but there are also a shitload of people who don't know anyone who grows who will buy weed...maybe go into the convenience store and buy a pack of MaryJ brand joints or something...LOL!

Infamous
12-10-2007, 04:00 PM
Of course they still sell booze. Who the hell is gonna buy bootleg booze for a few pence cheaper than the real deal? Its also to do with the large profits cannabis can reap in a very short amount of time. Its a lot LOT harder to do that with cheap bootleg booze that nobody wants to drink.

Tony1234567890
12-10-2007, 05:45 PM
The entire reason they didn't allow bootleg booze was because of the taxes. No other reason. Uncle Sam wanted his cut of people getting drunk. Same thing will happen with weed. It can't be legal because it's too easy to grow and the U.S. will get screwed out of it's precious taxes.

WaZ
12-10-2007, 06:21 PM
The US already taxes Cannabis.

AustinMan
12-11-2007, 04:10 PM
I would like to hope this could become reality.

Imagine this. They could brand their products (packs of cigs) with Light, Mild, or whatever to explain potency. You could get like whatever the fuck you wanted like different strains or stuff, For a nice price.

It seems to good to be true for me though.

mfqr
12-12-2007, 10:20 PM
No. Part of me thinks it would be AWESOME, but the other part of me fears it. If the government did it then prices would go up, there would be taxes also. Brands like cigarettes would take over the industry. It sounds alight, but considering pot is mostly enjoyed by those who dislike the government and big buisness, and we would be buying directly from them.

If it became legal some sort of system like a breatholizer must be needed for those driving impared. Sounds like alot of work to be done in lets say 80 years.

The taxes wouldn't be a problem, it would still cost less than it currently does in the black market. And I personally don't think that brands like cigarettes would take over the industry. I think it would end up being much more like it is in the netherlands... except 100% legal. By the way, if it came out to be the way you think it is, you wouldn't be buying it from the government... it would be from corporations like Marlboro.

Innominate
12-13-2007, 05:25 AM
If you want 100% legalized cannabis, we can all create our own country.

Call it, "Cannaba." :rastasmoke:

Dream of the iris
12-13-2007, 06:18 PM
Too bad, cause this world really would be a better place if everyone would just toke up. :jointsmile:


That doesn't make any damn sense. What about the criminals in ghettos? They smoke weed everyday, but go out and rob and kill people! I know that's a overstatement, but it's proof that the calming effects of weed is a personal thing. If you are a violent person to begin with, you will still be violent high.

TheDefiler
12-13-2007, 07:47 PM
Ya and all that violence is there because of the poverty and racial disparity. People wouldn't see the need to be violent if the could see a better way. But desperate people do desperate things.

Oh and mfgr: Marlboro is a brand name. The corporation you're thinking of is Philip Morris.

Mr. Clandestine
12-14-2007, 02:34 AM
If you are a violent person to begin with, you will still be violent high.

Bullshit. I know quite a few naturally high-strung (and inherently violent) people who smoke a bowl and just chill out completely. Maybe after napping, eating, then taking a shower, they'll become unstable again...but their initial reaction is to calm down, relax, and watch a movie, or something. You really want to see these people get violent? Give them some alcohol...and watch the games begin!

I've got bipolar disorder, had it since I was a kid. (I'm in my late 20's now.) I've tried every medication known to man to try and stabilize myself when I could feel an episode coming on, and the only prescription drugs that ever worked were practically narcotics that knocked me flat on my ass. Some drugs worked better than others, but many of them had side-effects that negated any of the benefits.

I'm a lot better at controlling my own symptoms now, without having to rely on experimental drugs, but am still prone to having a manic episode every once in a while. When this happens, I can simply take a few hits of some good herb, and go out for a 2-hour walk along a nature trail...and I'll bypass the episode almost completely. My mind is preoccupied with the relaxing buzz, the sounds/sights/smell of the outdoors, and in short order, a feeling of calm will sweep back over me.

Most drug-induced violent crimes stem from two sources: alcohol, or speed (meth, crack-cocaine, "crank", etc.)...and, of course, a predisposition to being violent in the first place.

headydankness
01-01-2008, 04:43 PM
yes, i mean I'm pretty young and i probly have allot of life ahead of me. And relay if you think about it allot can happen in say 50 years. But don't just dream about it, do something! and one day cannabis will be finally accepted throughout the world

WeedyBoyWonder
01-01-2008, 05:20 PM
I'd love to see the MJ legal like beer. Walk into a corner store and buy an 1/8th like you're buying six pack.

In all honesty, do you think we'll see that in our life time?

No. But, I would much like to see MJ entirely legal and free to use at will, unlike alcohol which I think should be put on the top shelf and highly regulated.

For the government the changes would be drastic but highly profitable, considering the amount of taxpayers money put into repairing things alcohol broke. How many thousands of people needing hospital treatment every weekend due to the effects and presence of alcohol. Not to mention the amount of money they would revenue in tax from the sale of legal cannabis, thousands and thousands of people having a good time socializing threw out the country, not being excessively sick on them selfs because they have drunk to much.

the image reaper
01-01-2008, 06:56 PM
NOPE ... marijuana will NOT be 'USA-legal' in my lifetime, and probably, never :wtf: ... and soon, our landmark 'foot-in-the-door' Medical Marijuana situation, will be taken away ... you can thank the 'gangsters in storefronts' Dispensaries, and crooked doctors that recommend pot to teenagers with pimple outbreaks, for the loss ... watch and see ...

D.U.M.B
01-01-2008, 10:52 PM
No it will probably not happen in my lifetime, decriminalisation is the best anyone can hope for. 100% legal weed in my lifetime is doubtful

Ironman
01-04-2008, 06:06 PM
AH, so true, get a bunch of stoners together you get "Love, Peace, and Music" (aka) "Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll". I know I was there:hippy:. Get a bunch of drunks together you get "Violence, Anger, and DEATH". I know, I was one.:rambo:. Thank GOD I made the SAFER CHOICE :jointsmile:.

midnite420toker
01-10-2008, 09:09 PM
I'd love to be able to just walk into a place like a coffeeshop in holland and scrore a bag of da real good... but the older i get, the crazier certain groups get, politics, etc... idk, i am starting to doubt it, but, i will never stop trying to make it happen and i will never give up the dream.

akimbo1013
01-10-2008, 10:01 PM
No, never, no shot

birdgirl73
01-10-2008, 10:12 PM
I tend to agree with Image Reaper and Akimbo. I rather doubt we'll see it recreationally legal in my lifetime, which is essentially going to last another 40 or so years. I agree with The Image Reaper that the storefronts, dispensaries and doctors who abuse the current system in states where it's medically legal, in combination with a pharmaceutical lobby that quite literally sets medical and drug policy for this county and will fight tooth-and-nail against the acceptance of a substance that threatens their profits, will keep it out of our reach.

I hope to see proper medical legality within my lifetime in many more states and decriminalization for recreational use. That's as optimistic as I can be (and I'm not even all that optimistic about that).

ceptictank
01-10-2008, 10:56 PM
I think it will slowly, very slowly, become decriminalized and made medically available in more states. I think soon (5-10 years) marijuana will be legal for 21+ years of age in states other than Alaska and Colorado, possibly Hawaii or California.

Also more states will become MMJ acceptable, such as Idaho (or Iowa, idk) which soon might be MMJ.

BUDSHOTS
01-11-2008, 04:11 PM
I hope before i die...i could go for a walk an pick as much WILD cannabis FREE because everyone will see this plant WILL BE LEGAL in 20 years all over the world..:rastasmoke:

beaner9192
01-14-2008, 01:08 AM
It wont happen. As GanjaMan7 rightly said...its one of the most versatile plants on the planet. This also means it can grow in even the most difficult environments and to be honest doesnt need really need any care to grow weed. You could go out and plant some clones, return a few months later and theres a very good chance of it having bud. This is where the problem lies. Anything that is that simple to grow cant be taxed. The government would tax the sale of it via their "official distributors" which would mean everyone would just go back to buying from the growers for less due to it being untaxed. Its a no win for the government.

it will be a win for the gov. if you take in mind that prisons are full of weed smokers/growers:smokin:

smokenss
01-14-2008, 02:34 AM
not in my life time (im hoping i have at least another 50 60 years)



:smokin:ss

Frickr
01-14-2008, 02:57 AM
i think it would be a free market type of thing, there would be a tax on the stuff sold in the stores. and places that distributed it would have to get a liscense. also i think for this system to be effective, you would have to apply for a growers license and pay a small tax. no big deal if you think about it. some farmers have to pickup licenses for crops they grow already, and any place that sells alcohol, have to get 2 licenses, one for beer and one for spirits. it would be about the same idea i think. yes there will be major companies in the game, then too, you will see alot of coffee shop type's, where they have their store "flavors". thats the only way i can really see the system to be effective. will I ever see it in my lifetime? im not sure. i would like to believe that i will. but the fact of the matter is, is the majority of the voting population are the babyboom generation. yes some of them smoke, but the majority believe all the propoganda junk that is out there. to get it legalized, we would have to sway the minds of all the older voting generation, and find and support cannidates that are for legalization.

start small by getting local people that support marijuana use into your local government, then from there move to the state level, at state level decriminalization will happen, lastly from that, vote in congressmen/women to fight for the right in washington. its not going to be something thats going to be won overnight, its going to have to start small. and spread from there.

think of it this way. if we can get around 30 states to decriminalize it, then those in legisllation can put in a bill to make it a national thing, being as they have the majority, it should sweep pretty quickly, from there, it wont take to much more to push over that last little hump.

angry nomad
01-14-2008, 01:39 PM
I think there is a strong possibility of weed becoming legal in our lifetime. We have to change the national zeitgeist toward it, like how the movie Philadelphia had a huge impact on our society.

For those of you who are worried about prices growing up, did you ever think, if it was legal, you could grow it yourself in your front yard or living room without fear of jail time or fines? The price would go down if it was legal. More supply, same demand, price goes down, especially with so many people just growing their own supply, and not buying. Also, how is the government going to tax something growing in your yard? See, this is part of the reason why it's illegal. They are making so much money throwing us in jail (think lawyers, police, prison guards, judges, bailiffs, an excuse to raise taxes because of overcrowded prisons), and fining us, and if they legalize it, it's impossible to tax personal use.

Rock.Steady
01-14-2008, 06:12 PM
Bullshit. I know quite a few naturally high-strung (and inherently violent) people who smoke a bowl and just chill out completely. Maybe after napping, eating, then taking a shower, they'll become unstable again...but their initial reaction is to calm down, relax, and watch a movie, or something. You really want to see these people get violent? Give them some alcohol...and watch the games begin!

I've got bipolar disorder, had it since I was a kid. (I'm in my late 20's now.) I've tried every medication known to man to try and stabilize myself when I could feel an episode coming on, and the only prescription drugs that ever worked were practically narcotics that knocked me flat on my ass. Some drugs worked better than others, but many of them had side-effects that negated any of the benefits.

I'm a lot better at controlling my own symptoms now, without having to rely on experimental drugs, but am still prone to having a manic episode every once in a while. When this happens, I can simply take a few hits of some good herb, and go out for a 2-hour walk along a nature trail...and I'll bypass the episode almost completely. My mind is preoccupied with the relaxing buzz, the sounds/sights/smell of the outdoors, and in short order, a feeling of calm will sweep back over me.

Most drug-induced violent crimes stem from two sources: alcohol, or speed (meth, crack-cocaine, "crank", etc.)...and, of course, a predisposition to being violent in the first place.

X2
and 'no' wont b legal, the best we can hope for is continued decriminalization in more states.

bigplants
01-14-2008, 10:13 PM
hell ya i hope so im 19 and i can honestly say 75% of our youth smoke marijuana, im not sure if this is anymore then in the 70's and 80's, maybe an elder smoker could inform me? But by the time my generation makes it to the white house and congress it will be 420 all day everyday. :jointsmile:

jrv128
01-15-2008, 01:28 AM
I live in Canada so I could definitely see it happening here within even 20 years. The Senate has already said a few years ago that it should be legalized and regulated.

But one thing I'm very afraid of is the insane amount of tax the Canadian and Provincial governments would place on it. For example, in my province 15 beer is 30 dollars or more, while a pack of smokes is 13 dollars, a lot of that expense is tax. The price of weed here is already low, with all the economists thinking that it actually sells here for 10 bucks a gram they see it as a way to make money. Which is why I'm actually in favour of it staying the way it is, not like the cops here are that hard on weed (atleast in Western Canada, not sure about the East), and keeping the government out of it (as if they don't tax us enough)!

marijuanavillebilly
01-16-2008, 04:23 AM
in my great state of kentucky we have tax stamps!
$3.50 for 1 gram
$100 for 1 ounce
$1000 for 1 plant
$250 for a hemp growing liscence

i pay my taxes and i got caught with the government stamped jars of pot, the judge looked at the jar and looked at me, he said "allow me to go into rescess so i can check a few laws." i waited in the court room for about 5 minutes when the judge walked back out, he looked at me and said come get your jar:D, and sign this paper." i read it over it was a agreement to continue payment of my taxes, and that if i was ever back in here again on drug charges i would be heavly fined.
i was free to go because he said i was a honest tax paying citizen trying to follow the law as close as possible.:D
he had never seen a tax stamp before. :D
the judge handed me my jar still loaded! i asked him if i was free to leave with this jar he said i gave it to you didn't I? i said "yes" he informed the guards to leave me alone and let him go.
this was all because i followed a law almost nobody knows about!
hope this helps someone :thumbsup:
P.S. if you purchase stamps take a empty jar or baggy. then either get them placed on them or keep them and place them on you belongings that contain cannabis. and the tax stamps are sealed records nobody can touch them.

Frickr
01-16-2008, 04:39 AM
in my great state of kentucky we have tax stamps!
$3.50 for 1 gram
$100 for 1 ounce
$1000 for 1 plant
$250 for a hemp growing liscence

i pay my taxes and i got caught with the government stamped jars of pot, the judge looked at the jar and looked at me, he said "allow me to go into rescess so i can check a few laws." i waited in the court room for about 5 minutes when the judge walked back out, he looked at me and said come get your jar:D, and sign this paper." i read it over it was a agreement to continue payment of my taxes, and that if i was ever back in here again on drug charges i would be heavly fined.
i was free to go because he said i was a honest tax paying citizen trying to follow the law as close as possible.:D
he had never seen a tax stamp before. :D
the judge handed me my jar still loaded! i asked him if i was free to leave with this jar he said i gave it to you didn't I? i said "yes" he informed the guards to leave me alone and let him go.
this was all because i followed a law almost nobody knows about!
hope this helps someone :thumbsup:
P.S. if you purchase stamps take a empty jar or baggy. then either get them placed on them or keep them and place them on you belongings that contain cannabis. and the tax stamps are sealed records nobody can touch them.


so your saying that if you live in ken. and you pay that tax, you can legally have your pot?? how the hell does that work??

smokenss
01-16-2008, 09:14 AM
im must admit that im a angry person most of the time and pot does calm me down but i need alot or some top shelf stuff to put me in my box ,if im drinking or on the meth look the fuck out, buy the way iv stopped using meth too many broken fingers from smashing and only have 1 or 2 drinks at a time these days .

marijuanavillebilly
01-16-2008, 10:49 PM
no no no!
the judge was like WTF is this.
and scence it was lagit and he had never seen it before he let me go.
but it was just pure luck, i dont recomend sparkin one up infront of you P.D. here, cops act like weed is anthrax.

Sir Bliss
01-16-2008, 11:08 PM
Wouldn't it be the greatest feeling in the world if one day we just woke up and Marijuana was decriminalized? I mean, obviously it's not going to happen..but just imagine. Pure joy.

Canada's looking strong these days. A lot stronger than the U.S. They'll have it decriminalized way before us, that's for sure.

In our lifetime...man, I just don't know. It's just too difficult to tell. It's a huge maybe, leaning slightly more towards 'no'. Oh, how I can wish though.

8182KSKUSH
01-17-2008, 08:05 AM
Nope

silkyblue
01-17-2008, 07:59 PM
I believe Pot will be legal in my 5 year old grandsons, lifetime


there will be wose things to deal with, like no air, for breathing!

growing veg,... etc

expandingeye
01-17-2008, 10:06 PM
I have to say alot of you are really really lame for just saying no.

Especially if your pretty old, great job contributing to the decrim/legal movement. Thats exactly the fucking problem, you all act like you would want something done but dont do jack shit. Well I wasnt born that long ago and I plan to actually try as much as i can to change stuff.
You guys act like you want them to win, look at how politicians cant hide from lies as much anymore, everything media is too integrated with the internet.

What happened to the sixties movement, oh weed and lsd was easy to get so everyone just said fuck it. well the mainstream america is slowly evolving and old people are dying. Lets stop this stupid fucking attitude of just agreeing with this bullshit.

silkyblue
01-18-2008, 02:40 AM
skip the fandangoIm turning cartwheels

what are you doing to contribute to legalizeing it?

hmmmm


Im not chaining myself to the pole if no one else does

if EVERYONE would 'come out' well just maybe !

thcbongman
01-18-2008, 03:17 AM
I have to say alot of you are really really lame for just saying no.

Especially if your pretty old, great job contributing to the decrim/legal movement. Thats exactly the fucking problem, you all act like you would want something done but dont do jack shit. Well I wasnt born that long ago and I plan to actually try as much as i can to change stuff.
You guys act like you want them to win, look at how politicians cant hide from lies as much anymore, everything media is too integrated with the internet.

What happened to the sixties movement, oh weed and lsd was easy to get so everyone just said fuck it. well the mainstream america is slowly evolving and old people are dying. Lets stop this stupid fucking attitude of just agreeing with this bullshit.

How do you plan to do this? There are people fighting it, most go about it in the wrong way. Ever been to a legalization rally? Even as a fellow toker, I had a hard time taking it seriously.

The real fight is in the court rooms. In labs conducting studies capturing the positives of marijuana. Lobbyists in the government. Venturists dedicated to the movement raising the necessary capital to fight this war. Sociologists conducting studies to study the effects of prohibition of marijuana. Economicists arguing the benefits of legalization. Much of the marijuana movement is focused on making money off the target market (us) rather than actually fighting for legalization.

One of the things that the mainstream of this movement hurts more than helps. The myth perpetuated that the government is evil just because marijuana is illegal is ridiculous. That image is what hurts the legalization the most. Rather than attacking the government, the focus should be on the benefits. This perception must be broken in order for the movement to be taken seriously.

In order to do something about it, you got to be smart, and get as well educated as you can. That's what the marijuana movement needs. Hippies chanting "LEGALIZE IT" and smoke a blunt are of abundance. Educated and well-funded people fighting this war is scarce. We got to stop dreaming. People got to start planning and taking real action to change laws, and public perception about marijuana. If you truly want to legalize it, you have be serious in the right way, not the wrong way.

jrv128
01-18-2008, 07:58 PM
Canada's looking strong these days. A lot stronger than the U.S. They'll have it decriminalized way before us, that's for sure.


It was almost decriminalized back on 03, but it wasn't brought up again because of strong pressure from the American gov't. :mad:

beginerbuddah
01-18-2008, 08:49 PM
i sure hope it does i would love to be able to smoke in peace :jointsmile:

StOnEdMoNk
01-18-2008, 09:40 PM
that would be so nice if it was legal like that i need some canna non filters please lmao the government would tax the shit out of it raise the prices and probally even lower the thc content as well if that ever happened i can see alot of potheads quitting cause the fun of smoking is the risk of getting caught just like alchohol i loved drinking at 15 i hit 21 and drinking sux now

8182KSKUSH
01-20-2008, 10:50 AM
100% Decriminalization is what everyone should be pushing for. The government loves to have the debate in the air over medical marijuana because it is easier to debate that and distract people from the more important issue of civil liberty. They cannot win that debate and do not want to have it.
And again,
Nope, not going to happen.

Dream of the iris
01-21-2008, 12:52 AM
I think there are more important issues around then whether weed will be legal and as such, no I do not see weed being anywhere near legal in the near future. Sorry, but that's just what I feel.

Toke'n
01-23-2008, 02:00 AM
Prices would actually drop dramatically. Marijuana is one of the most versatile plants on the planet. It is extremely easy to cultivate. Many places in South American where marijuana laws are slack or ignored, weed can go for a few bucks per pound. One con of legalization would be that the government would ban the cultivation of marijuana by citizens, in order to make a profit. They did this with tobacco too. But hey, that would still be much better than the insane laws we have in place now.

What about home brewing beer? I am allowed to produce 250 gallons of Finished beer in america, free of taxes and the like as long as i dont sell it to anyone. If i hand it out, that is ok, but i cant make any money off the deal.

Oh yeah, and it is able to be done by anyone (with the right equipment aka... Home GROWING).

Im going to say yes, so that i can win the bet :thumbsup: :cool:

cheapguy
01-23-2008, 03:01 AM
It wasnt too long ago that the liberal party in canada almost decriminalized marijuana what happened the american political goons threatened to close the border until the american elite change there stance it will never happen

GoodBush
01-27-2008, 07:40 AM
Vote for Ron Paul and you will. That means get up and make it happen!

Not only that, but among many other great things, he will release all non-violent offenders from prison! That means someone you know could get out of prison because YOU voted for Ron Paul.

He is a great man. I advise you look into him.

By voting for RON PAUL, you vote to de-criminalize if not legalize MJ and release all non violent offenders from fuck me in the ass prison.

Also might add........if anyone else besides Ron Paul is elected, we'll all be in prison for just writing these posts in here!

Join the Revolution! :hippy:

llamapunch
01-30-2008, 10:23 PM
Ron Paul - Only candidate I don't think is a complete douche. If you haven't heard of him or aren't planning to help him in any way please go to Ron Paul 2008 — Hope for America (http://www.ronpaul2008.com) just once!

Canada - Haha the U.S. knows the kind of trouble there would be if pot was o.k. in Canada. I mean, imagine how many Americans would all of a sudden be going to Canada. I'd probably move... or at least move up north where i could go to Canada every day or something. Plus all the smuggling which is even going on now. There would be probably be a lot more smuggling problems for U.S. if it was legal/decrim in Canada. Prob why U.S. pressured Can. or w.e. I hope Canada does it soon ! :rastasmoke:

Oh yea people were saying big companies and shit would take over and we wouldn't have the variation we have now and etc etc I always thought that if weed was legalized then everyone would just go crazy and that free market shit would kick in. I mean look at all the diff kinds of cigs you can buy. Think of all the diff. genetics and things that could be discovered if weed was acceptable in the first place. We would have scientists figuring that plant out all day. That's how I imagined it anyway

Economics - I had an economics prof. who used to talk about pot a lot. He said it would be better for the government to have it where they could tax and regulate it. Makes sense to me. My worry is if they make it where they have control you know the gov. will be doing some sort of shady shit to fuck with us and make that dollar. Imagine how much money could be diverted from the war on drugs (marijuana part) and used for some real shit like schools or something. What if we had Iraq war money too? Damn that'd be a lot right?

Anyway, just some thoughts I had after reading all the posts. I know it will happen in my lifetime! Be positive people, hasn't weed taught you anything? :hippy:

johnjacob
03-06-2008, 01:51 AM
We can only dream...I honostly believe it will never be 100% legal...reason being MONEY!!! What would the people who depend on busting the MJ smokers and growers do for a job?? How many pot smokers who get caught end up on probation and have to pay some kind of fine then probation,piss test,and everyother thing they can come up with. Just follow the money.

ijustloveweed
03-06-2008, 03:17 AM
If you want 100% legalized cannabis, we can all create our own country.

Call it, "Cannaba." :rastasmoke:

I have seriously thought of that before, if someone created a country 1000 years ago and just decided to worship pot...and everyone in that country was a stoner

johnjacob
03-06-2008, 03:44 PM
LLamapunch....is that anything like a donkey punch? My question to you is why did Ron Paul do so bad in his home state? Before you get on you soap box let me tell you I too am a Paul supporter and I'm totally dissappointed with the big news stations. We the people had the prime opportunity to get our country back from the neo-cons and idiot liberals. But what happened....they believe and trust in the box, people are afraid to do their own research into the "canidates". But why such a bad showing in Texas?

HighTy
04-11-2008, 12:50 AM
I've always thought this. Glad to hear someone thinking the same thing because it's TRUE. It depends who you are in the first place.


That doesn't make any damn sense. What about the criminals in ghettos? They smoke weed everyday, but go out and rob and kill people! I know that's a overstatement, but it's proof that the calming effects of weed is a personal thing. If you are a violent person to begin with, you will still be violent high.

netdog
04-16-2008, 01:34 PM
Well it's come a long way in the 35 years I've been toking..

For example, 30 years ago there's no way they would let a guy like Willie run around smoking pot across the country, they would have made sure to bust him hard and make an example.. The DEA knows they could bust him any time at all, why don't they? They don't want the backlash, and publicity.

They know they are playing a losing game.

We need to get practical though. We should gain strong allies like turning on the tobacco industry to the goldmine that could open up for them and get their heavy duty lobbyists on our side.

We should lobby folks like Micheal Moore who have drawing power to get people to watch his films, to make a film like F911 on the lunacy, lies and deception the government is putting on us about pot and get the public educated, and enraged if possible at the taxes they are being forced to pay for this prohibition and prisons bursting at the seams.