Cloning Question

[saltrock1.]

Going to do some cloning soon. Need some opinions. Ive tryed cloning in the 0% success lol. But I read some stuff that attic wrote and one of the things he/she wrote was you need to flush your plants out with water. To deprive them of nitrogine, so they root faster. I just want a second oppinion. And also the times I ve tryed to clone Ive used rockwool, I was begining to think it was the RW and had consdered going to rapid rooter plugs. But If im doing something wrong to not prepare the plant for cloning then obviously need to do that.

Thanks
SALT

[PharmaCan]

If Stinky said it, you can take it to the bank!

PC :smokin:

[BlueBear]

Some do stop feeding N before cloning, but some don't. I get roots in 11 to 14 days using rooters and don't stop feeding N. I would switch to rooters though, to me they are simpler than RW. I just take mine out of the package, give a quick dunk into a mix of 1 ML per gal of Super Thrive and 3ML per gal of Liquid Karma and stick prepared clones into them. I place them into the humidity dome under a CFL and mist lid every morning and every night and don't even mess with the rooters for about 6 days. After they get their quick dunking they are wet enough not too have to water for that long. I also use a heating matt so that the cloning area stays at about 80D. I tried some different methods and I just had to come back to this one. One last thing, some will feed the plants that are about to be cloned from some bloom nutes a couple days before cutting in order to get a faster rooting time.
Adieu

[saltrock1.]

Thanks for the reply I am going to rapid rooters. got liquid karma already and need to get superthrive. But cool thxs

[cwesto]

If Stinky said it, you can take it to the bank!

PC :smokin:

I second that statement

[cwesto]

I also plan on taking my first clones ever soon as well. I am using RW, i have a dome and heat matt, and rootech gel. I also plan on sprinkling in a little bit of granulated mycorrhizal fungi in the water i will be soaking the RW in, to get the subcultures working on roots immediately. I need advice on when i start misting, I plan on misting the dome 1-2 times daily with 1/2 tsp/gal tigerbloom in my water.

Will that mixture be alright for misting my babies? or should i just mix the fert with the soaking water then mist with only Ph'd water??

[doco]

Cloning always seemed like an advanced technique and very mysterious to me until I'd done it a time or two. I went out and bought an aerocloner, read every post I could find, watched grow videos - I thought you had to be a scientist to do it or something.

Fact is, it's simple and anyone can do it. I use plain RO water, sometime with a drop or two of superthrive, a humidity dome, a plain ole 24" fluorescent shop light, Clonex rooting compound, usually rapid rooters (on stinkys advice) but I just used some rockwool with same 100% success. Summer heat seems to be harder on them and they take a little longer to perk back up but they always do eventually. The day after you clone them they often look dead but just keep misting them, they'll come back. I don't use any ferts until roots showing through the rooters, then start with 1/4 or 1/2 strength depending on strain.

[saltrock1.]

thanks for the posts cant go wrong with you guys.

Thanks
SALT

[PharmaCan]

I also plan on taking my first clones ever soon as well. I am using RW, i have a dome and heat matt, and rootech gel. I also plan on sprinkling in a little bit of granulated mycorrhizal fungi in the water i will be soaking the RW in, to get the subcultures working on roots immediately. I need advice on when i start misting, I plan on misting the dome 1-2 times daily with 1/2 tsp/gal tigerbloom in my water.

Will that mixture be alright for misting my babies? or should i just mix the fert with the soaking water then mist with only Ph'd water??

Don't give your clones any nutes if this is your first time cloning. Get some Clonex liquid and use it. Do soak your rockwool cubes in clonex (+ a drop of Superthrive if you have it) until you can maintain a pH of 5.5. R/w cubes usually have a high pH, so you need to start with your solution around pH 4.5 to equalize at 5.5. I often have to use pH down during the soaking because it creeps up over 5.5.

Start misting immediately. Mist the dome, not the plants. I mist with Clonex.

For step-by-step cloning instructions, with pics, go to this link:

http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/142258-clone-log-cloning-pics-using-master-kush-mom.html


PC :smokin:

[cwesto]

Don't give your clones any nutes if this is your first time cloning. Get some Clonex liquid and use it. Do soak your rockwool cubes in clonex (+ a drop of Superthrive if you have it) until you can maintain a pH of 5.5. R/w cubes usually have a high pH, so you need to start with your solution around pH 4.5 to equalize at 5.5. I often have to use pH down during the soaking because it creeps up over 5.5.

Start misting immediately. Mist the dome, not the plants. I mist with Clonex.

For step-by-step cloning instructions, with pics, go to this link:

http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/142258-clone-log-cloning-pics-using-master-kush-mom.html


PC :smokin:

Ok i dont have superthrive but i am confident my subcultures will do the trick..

But, if i were to omix nutes in my misting bottle, say some tiger bloom, how long does that mixture staty good???? is there anycertain way i should store the nute mix??

[stinkyattic]

No fert AT ALL.
Be sure the RW is at the correct pH.
Mycos are nice once you know you've got survival, but on your first go-round I'd leave them out.
STERILIZE your dome and tray before use.
Mist the leaves with wilt-pruf and allow to dry before putting the dome on, then mist the inside of the dome, not the plants.
Don't use the heat mat if your ambient temps are over about 72ish. It will be slightly warmer under the dome, and TOO MUCH heat can encourage fungus.

[cwesto]

Stinky, I have no wilt-pruf, so thats out the door. But i will heed ur words on the fert.... is that no ferts for the first couple of days, or no ferts until the clones are planted??

I cloned this morning, soaked in Ph 5 water (very hard H2O in Mich. were i live) with some mycos in the water for about 10 minutes. When i soaked the RW i sprinkled some mycos in the water while they were soaking, my thoughts were that the RW would accept the subcultures as they were soaking, dont know if that is right or nt but im sure it cant hurt em. Also used rootechgel. They are now under 2 CFL's one is a blueish daylight bulb, and the other has more yellows and oranges.

The clonoes right now are kinda tipping over, but the leaves havent wilted at all and look like they are keeping their riggidness, so i think they are alright. I woiuld imagine however that, those lil clones are pretty stressed right now tho, so i guess i cant blame them, hopefully their posture is better tomorow.

My temp in the dome has been hovering around 70F today and RH is about 45%. I would like to get the temp up, tomoro i think ill get a heat pad, but is tha tRH ok Stinky???? This is my first clones so its all new again..

Thnx, Westo :thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

RH under the dome should be a lot higher than that. Do you have a good seal around the edges? If you aren't using an anti-wilt, you will have to mist the inside of the dome more often.
I avoid nutes until the clones are rooted, planted, and showing signs of upward growth.
Finally, you really only need the single CFL. Too much light makes the plants active- photosynthesizing and using up stored nutes for vertical growth- and you really don't want that yet. It's like trying to go to work and the gym and the grocery store instead of staying in bed recovering from the flu. Let them tell YOU when thye are ready for nutes and strong light.

[cwesto]

K sounds like a plan SA, Thnx