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JDMBoy420
12-06-2007, 01:30 AM
okay so I transplanted this Afghan kush last night along with two others. It did well all night and this morning at 9 when I checked on it. Around 10:30ish I checked up on them, and this is what I found. It just fell over dramatically like a noodle.. any thoughts./.? temp is 75 F. 20% hum. FFOF soil. disti.water.

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Ophistello
12-06-2007, 02:10 AM
that's not so bad, i've had worse. it's just transplant shock and should recover in a day or two.

50ul }{4ck3r
12-06-2007, 02:12 AM
True True!!!!

Mr. Clandestine
12-06-2007, 02:13 AM
I'm assuming this is a clone. If so, it's pretty common for some clones to droop temporarily, but most will usually regain turgidity after a week or so. I keep clones in a humidity dome until a good root system has been established before planting into a medium. Also, cutting away half of the fan leaves from clones will help to reduce transpiration, and increase surface area available for light. Since clones don't immediately have a root system, it's much more difficult for water uptake through the main stem to take place. High humidity is actually a good method for reducing transpiration.

JDMBoy420
12-06-2007, 04:13 AM
oh ok good. glad it's that and not something more serious. thanks for info. appreciate it.
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JDMBoy420
12-06-2007, 05:33 PM
okay well just making sure if this is part of the transition..? lol got alot worse.. hmm.. ph is 6.1 , 73.F , 23%H . She looks pretty damn close to dead.. throw the lil og kush next to it in..?
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Ophistello
12-06-2007, 05:44 PM
if you're in soil, ph of 6.5 would be much better.

Mr. Clandestine
12-06-2007, 06:39 PM
Was the clone rooted before you transplanted it into soil? I wait until there are plenty of roots sticking out of the rockwool before I transplant.

Your soil looks a little on the dry side, too. If it is a recently transplanted clone, the roots aren't able to reach to the bottom of the pot yet, where the soil is still moist.

JDMBoy420
12-06-2007, 07:42 PM
yes, it was rooted before i transplanted. The very top layer is dry but moist when u go down. hmm.. maybe not a equal amount of water spread around..?

Mr. Clandestine
12-06-2007, 10:05 PM
Perhaps, or perhaps this clone just isn't as strong as the rest of them. A lot of times, when I find a clone that wilts more than the rest, I just go ahead and cull it to make room for the vibrant, more healthy ones. Try not to let the topsoil dry out for the next few days, just to ensure that the roots are able to get water. Hopefully it'll pull through on it's own volition.

Also, are you feeding it with a nutrient solution, or just plain water?

JDMBoy420
12-07-2007, 12:09 AM
distilled sparkletts waters.. now my belladona is starting to wilt. so i shouldnt wait for the surface to dry up before waterings..? i usually do..

Mr. Clandestine
12-07-2007, 03:01 AM
It's fine to let the topsoil get dry between watering, so you're not doing anything wrong there. I was only meaning that because the roots haven't yet had time to dig their way further down into the pots, the moist soil at the bottom isn't going to do them much good right now. And you also don't want to overwater, as I had to find out the hard way that clones don't like this very much. There has to be a balance, just like the wet/dry cycles of a fully rooted plant, in order for the clone to thrive. This is why it's usually best to transplant the newly rooted clone into a shallow container first, before transplanting into its final pot. It's more difficult to over/underwater that way.

Again, wilting is pretty common when cloning, due to the traumatic nature of the procedure. There are so many things that could be causing it, and I'd hate to recommend a procedure for one malady, and have it turn out to be something completely different that's ailing it. You may have an embolism (an air-bubble trapped inside the stem), or possibly a mold/fungus/bacterial issue, or maybe it's just taking longer than usual for the roots to become firmly established. It can take up to three weeks sometimes for a clone that's being stubborn to vigorously start producing roots.

If there wasn't an abundant root system before you transplanted, then just keep misting and watering as usual, and it should recover on its own...most do. Also, newly rooted clones don't need excessive light, as this also contributes to transpiration. If you're using a HID, moves the clones to the outer edge of the footprint of the light to keep transpiration to a minimum. Good luck, and be sure to let us know how things turn out.

JDMBoy420
12-07-2007, 05:37 AM
well as of this moment she is still wilting like a freshly cooked noodle. Im under some flourescents right now.. didnt want to give em all that hps watt power too soon. ill give her sometime to sort her shit out, if not theres a og kush waiting to take her spot lol