View Full Version : Are weed smokers really peace loving hippies?
Flameon
12-03-2007, 11:14 AM
I was down at my local head shop this weekend and couldn't help noticing that almost half of the paraphernalia for sale was covered in either: 'CND' symbols, or 'Hippie' type 'peace and love' imagery.
"Not that there is anything wrong in being a hippie", some of my best friends are tree huggers, and I always was in favour of a bit of 'free love'.
But, is this what the average stoner is really about these days, or is it just a tired old cliche that manufacturers assume is going to help sell their products.
Would a 'CND' logo on a grinder (for instance) make you more or less likely to buy it?
Silent Wolf
12-03-2007, 11:20 AM
Just a stereotype. It's like saying all those who drink beer are wife beating maniacs. weed is smoked by people from all walks of life. One of my firends is actually a right-wing conservative, and even he likes to smoke a bit of pot now and again.
cm8883
12-03-2007, 11:32 AM
I agree, a stereotype. It's probably done because the hippies are credited with starting the whole weed scene in the 60's.
We know it was smoked years earlier, but mainstream media still associates it with the counter culture movement.
RUTBpiping
12-03-2007, 12:56 PM
A total stereotype.......none of my mates are hippies and they almost all of them smoke. :thumbsup:
make it legal
12-03-2007, 01:22 PM
No, but I find people who smoke will be more on the hipiesh side of things. Not actual hippies, but still like peace, are very chill, don't flow with the "in" crowd. People nowadays who smoke are also more likely to be interested in hippie culture. I am. The only violent pot smokers I could think of are those stupid gangsta ass muthafuggas who just want to try to prove how tough they are.
If you think about it 90% of the things you buy are going to be marketed a certain way to make people buy them. But I don't care. I like that way hippie style shit looks. If I had to choose between a tie-die bong with a peace sign on it, or a bong with maybe flames or something like that; I'd take the tie-die.
geonagual
12-03-2007, 02:08 PM
I am not sure what "CND" is
cm8883
12-03-2007, 02:13 PM
I am not sure what "CND" is
Ha! I see I'm not the only one...had to wiki it...
Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CND)
Storm Crow
12-03-2007, 02:30 PM
Kids, the hippie stuff is because we are STILL HERE! Hippies are not extinct- we just changed our clothes! Now we got the cash to buy the do-dads, and we buy that "Genuwine" Indian Hookah, the sterling silver CND, whatever it was that we lusted over in our teens and 20s!
And I was not the only "elderly" person at the head shop last time I was there! ;) And besides, society is cyclical- all that stuff WILL come back in style, maybe slightly changed, but it will be back! - Granny :hippy: (straight looking on the outside- beads and flowers on the inside)
Old Stoner
12-03-2007, 03:26 PM
AMEN, Granny, amen! We (us "early" heads) ARE still here, and toking like a smokestack, LOL.
I wear a tye-dyed Aerosmith t-shirt a LOT, and then there's my UPS shirt that my lady just hates (you know, United Pot Smokers).
Last time I was in a head shop (last week) a VERY OLDER woman came in and bought a "stone" and a glass pipe. God bless her!
Bet she wasn't gonna smoke tobacky out of it, he, he, he...
Dutch Pimp
12-03-2007, 03:50 PM
Old hippies never die...they just go back underground; from wince they came.....:hippy:
Metaphor
12-03-2007, 04:00 PM
Fuck that, im deffinatley not a hippie, and i smoke alot of grass.
I mean im anti-war but that dosent make a me a hippie. it makes me a sane human being that dosent want to go shoot people for whatever resources they have.
plus i wear shoes..
whats with all the labels?
sarah louise
12-03-2007, 04:04 PM
As far as I'm concerned hippies were a phenomena of the cultural and social changes of the 1960's and (in Aus at least) the 1970's. I'm one of 8 children raised by a self identifying hippy of that time and an anarchist of Irish extraction. My father lived his political beliefs quietly and earned a respectable income that allowed my mother pursue her passion her social justice and generally run amok.
As a child I marched in the moratorium rallies holding the hands of my younger siblings, camped on the lawns of parliament house and was forced to drink fortifying milkshakes made from brewers yeast on winter mornings. My siblings and I went where ever my mother did, it was all part of our education. I went to open air rock concerts, sit ins and protest rallies and missed a lot of school.
Footwear and underwear was discouraged at home, nudity (semi nudity as we grew older and more modest) was the norm in warm weather. Prior to 12 years old, I didn't wear underwear at all, unless I was going to school or away to play at the homes of more conventional families.
We were encouraged to explore and experiment with the natural world, but also taught to respect the intrinsic value of all forms of life. Both my parents shunned any suggestion of monotheism, yet let us make up our own minds on the nature of the world.
Our neighbours hated us quietly, we were very noisy and were never admonished for foul language because my mother believed that words should not have power over the people who speak them. There was no shock value in swearing for us, but we probably caused our more conservative neighbours fairly continuous discomfort.
We had a huge veggie garden, dad brewed beer and made wine. Neither of them smoked dope because dad grew up on a sugar cane farm and had very set views about the appropriate uses for hemp. Mum would have loved to get her hands on some and during my teens, would ask my friends if they could supply. They usually thought she was testing them, she wasn't.
That's hippies to me.
I absolutely loathe the commercialisation of cannabis paraphernalia with 'hippy' logos, or the consumption of tie dyed clothing, soft environmentalism, or the eclectic approach to borrowing bits of other people's cultures, I see today as being related to the concept 'hippy'.
Like I said, my mother was a hippy :hippy:
Dutch Pimp
12-03-2007, 04:59 PM
Like I said, my mother was a hippy :hippy:
Well said ...Sarah.....:thumbsup:
Your momma was a hippy...but...you are hip, too...:hippy:
logie_boy
12-03-2007, 05:02 PM
im not a fan of hippys
Gundari
12-03-2007, 05:13 PM
I find that most people who smoke weed tend to be a bit more open minded and slightly more intelligent then most. As a result of that we tend to shy away from base violent desires and attempt to solve our problems with talking rather thing fighting. But overall...thats just a stereotype.
Dutch Pimp
12-03-2007, 05:30 PM
im not a fan of hippys
Thank God...judging from your avatar...I would hate to see what you are a fan of..
I find that most people who smoke weed tend to be a bit more open minded and slightly more intelligent then most. As a result of that we tend to shy away from base violent desires and attempt to solve our problems with talking rather thing fighting. But overall...thats just a stereotype.
You are closer to the truth..than you will ever know.
psychocat
12-03-2007, 05:49 PM
Psychobilly lovin' sociopath , so I guess I'm as far from the stereotype as you can get.
StickyfingahZ
12-03-2007, 06:04 PM
I dont think I have ever met a hippie.....or at least the kind you see on movies.But I know alot of guys who smoke that are peaceful.
Metaphor
12-03-2007, 06:09 PM
i think hippies give weed smokers a bad name, i dont want people to assume im a barefoot, dirt poor, tree hugging, tie dye wearing, not shaving, long haired, burnt out person thats only concerned with sitting in drum circles bashing the govt but being to scared to do anything about it. The whole hippie scene is terribly overrated
besides hippies were in the past, anyone that wants to be a modern day hippie should go live in a special compound in the middle of the desert. Havent you guys seen Easy Rider???, Thats what a real hippie should be like.
lol no offence to all you hippies, i hope its workin out for you guys. This is just my opinion :twocents::twocents::twocents::twocents:
snowblind
12-03-2007, 06:16 PM
whats CND ? obviosuly confirming this is somewhat of a sterotype.
Purple Banana
12-03-2007, 06:32 PM
Gotta love the old-school hippies... I get the best bud from 'em!
Flameon
12-03-2007, 06:32 PM
Sorry.
I keep forgetting I'm an 'old-timer'! lol
CND stands for 'Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament', very popular in the 80's. 'Ban the Bomb' and all that stuff.
Edit: I don't know. . . the younger generation today. . . they don't know there born! lol
Well im certainly not a peace loving hippie.
Breukelen advocaat
12-03-2007, 08:41 PM
There was only one real hippie, and that was Emmett Grogan, founder of the Diggers in Haight Ashbury, San Francisco, CA.
jagarr
12-03-2007, 09:23 PM
im not a hippie if by that you mean the tie dye clothes and the vinyl classic rock sleeves all over ones' walls type of hippie. i am pretty peaceful though sure and i make a conscious effort to not be a complete doosh rocket to everyone i come across. but i do like metal and ultra-violent video games...
im too young to really understand the 'hippie' mindset. sure ive seen a few history channel miniseries and my moms brother followed 'the dead' around the country to over 300 shows so hes got some great stories, but im sure factually im way off =P
i do wish people were less callous towards one another. i feel so sad when i see people be mean just for the sake of being mean, which is like every day =/
im guilty of it too though i suppose. everyone gets frustrated. but i try to acknowledge my anger... like just today at work i caught myself pissed and calmed myself down pretty fast. then i just felt bad, but then proud! proud that i didnt flip out and add unnecessarily to an already stressful situation. aaaand now, ill take a nap :D
Reefer Rogue
12-03-2007, 10:05 PM
Cannabis has enlightened me to the ways of pascifism.
no. spend the night in jail. everyone there will smoke weed, none will be peace loving hippies. im not saing all potheads are in jail im just speaking from recent experience
What's wrong with peace? Yes, I have become a pacifist. Before I smoked ganja, I was not. Is there something wrong with that? Hippie? Can anyone give an accurate definition of what a "hippie" is?
"someone who rejects the established culture; advocates extreme liberalism in politics and lifestyle" -- that's from google.com
I don't know if I'm an extreme liberal in politics and/or lifestyle... some would best describe me as a socialist. Anyway, umm...
All this negative shit about "peace loving hippies" is just pro-war propaganda. GG
Staurm
12-04-2007, 12:44 AM
Not necessarily, but I think all the tree hugger's imbibe it keenly.
Also, not all pot smokers are peace lovers. Maybe we can get P4B in here to shed some light on the subject :)
Purple Banana
12-04-2007, 01:39 AM
I love peace, I promote it, but I do not consider myself a 'hippie' simply because I was not alive when the original era took place... I'm a peace-loving lifelong learner, with a shitload of bumper stickers on my car, a dance in my step; my eyes drawn to the sky, and my feet traveling the earth :)
psychocat
12-04-2007, 02:35 AM
I love peace, I promote it, but I do not consider myself a 'hippie' simply because I was not alive when the original era took place... I'm a peace-loving lifelong learner, with a shitload of bumper stickers on my car, a dance in my step; my eyes drawn to the sky, and my feet traveling the earth :)
Then you is a hippy ,,, in spirit at least :D :thumbsup: :cool:
Nothing wrong with that !
birdgirl73
12-04-2007, 03:45 AM
I was alive when the original hippie era happened, although I was a little kid. I consider myself to possess a hippie soul. I'm a pacifist. An environmentalist. I advocate freedom of lifestyle choices and legalization of cannabis. I'm politically liberal. I'm spiritual rather than formally religious. On the surface, I look more like a yuppie soccer mom, so some people are very surprised when I reveal my social beliefs, which, I suppose, were molded by my academic, beatnik-era parents.
Doctor Whoov
12-04-2007, 04:13 AM
OK here's how I see the whole thing. You go into a head shop and there are racks of tie-dyes, Grateful Dead posters and peace sign bongs. It's a stereotype. I saw The Dead and it was a great show. Doesn't make me a Dead Head. I'm anti-war. (I fought in a war so I feel I have a right to that opinion) That doesn't make me a hippie. I disagree with the government. That doesn't make me an anarchist. When I buy a piece it isn't going to be adorned with a dancing bear. I like to smoke pot. That doesn't make me a loser. I have a job and I go to school full time. I go to the American Legion and listen to the old timers talk about how marijuana is bad and I try to help them understand that they have been misinformed. Hippies were a group of like minded people who were looking for a better way. For some of them they found it. Others fell back into society and managed to live productive lives. What I don't get is some 18 year old kid growing dreads and wearing dyes claiming they are a hippie while driving their dad's BMW to Grateful Dead tribute band concerts at $50 a clip and proclaiming themselves a hippie.
Unknown American
12-04-2007, 04:22 AM
I am no hippie.
I am a rouge Capitalist.
Peace and love are cool and all, especially if it can get you laid, but that is not me.
The hippie ideas failed. It is a total media generated stereotype that pot smokers are hippies.
chargrs83
12-04-2007, 04:33 AM
i think hippies give weed smokers a bad name, i dont want people to assume im a barefoot, dirt poor, tree hugging, tie dye wearing, not shaving, long haired, burnt out person thats only concerned with sitting in drum circles bashing the govt but being to scared to do anything about it. The whole hippie scene is terribly overrated
besides hippies were in the past, anyone that wants to be a modern day hippie should go live in a special compound in the middle of the desert. Havent you guys seen Easy Rider???, Thats what a real hippie should be like.
lol no offence to all you hippies, i hope its workin out for you guys. This is just my opinion :twocents::twocents::twocents::twocents:
i would agree. I don't think that hippies are bad, i just think its bad when people think everyone who smokes weed is a hippie, which i'm sure you all know is not the case. I don't think that stereotypes for pot smokers are that bad anymore. I think that people who don't smoke understand that its something we enjoy, just like w.e they do in their spare time. At least thats what I have encountered since smokin weed. Toke on:jointsmile:
TheSmokingMonkey
12-04-2007, 06:44 AM
It's true for me. I love love, I love peace, and I hug trees on a regular basis. I also like furry woodland creatures. I shop local, buy organic, and like to quote Gandhi and his ilk.
Call me a hippie if you must, but I like to think of it as being God-fearing and principled.
Oh, but you are right about tie-dye and Dead merchandise and whatnot. It's totally last generation. That's not me. I am into American Apparel and stuff like that. "Teacher clothes" is what one of my buddies would call my fashion taste. Lol.
TallulahGreen
12-04-2007, 08:36 PM
I couldn't tell ya, cause I am a freakin' tree hugger and so is everyone I know.
...but I don't think it's from the pot.
I work in a food co-op. I'm a vegetarian. I try to only eat organic.
...and I REALLY LIKE TO GO HIKING!!!!
..oh and...I listen to massive amounts of reggae and classic rock...and jam bands.
geonagual
12-04-2007, 10:07 PM
I am an open, free willed, nature lover...lover of mankind and the earth..I see the intricasys of the world and love them:)
at one time, I was not like that at all:(
I do believe that Marijuana has helped reach this state of being that I am in..I see what I have learned in the way of peace and harmony and it has passed on 2 both my daughters, so in an inadvertant way they have both benifited also:hippy:
Infamous
12-04-2007, 10:14 PM
Over here in England i'd say that about 50% of smokers are aged 12 to 21, wear burberry caps, tuck their tracky bottoms into their socks, wear fake gold earrings and would steal your shoelaces if they had half the chance. I dont go near them due to the fear of catching Stupid Dickhead's Disease. The only time they hug trees is when they are trying to gnaw the bark off so that they dont have to waste money on toilet paper.
Frickr
12-04-2007, 10:18 PM
I dont think that anyone from the younger generations can truely call themselves hippies. To me a hippie is someone who was there in the 60's, who were there protesting, lived in communities, gave up the whole life that was expected of them, and really changed the way Americans live their lives today.
People in the fallowing generations that do wear tiedye, and try to fallow that hippie generation, just are that, fallowing what they think is "cool". I think that they should go out and being themselves, most just are trying to be something they arent.
What i have noticed since i first started smoking, is that even I was trying to be the mainstream stoner. the one that is portrayed in the media. As i have grown older, i have devoloped my own path, my own style. Most people that know me dont even think that i smoke any more. they only think that im a nice outstanding person. I help out in my community, i am worried about some of the enviromental problems. but am no way a true hippie. may share the same beliefs, may live alot in the same way, but i was born 20 years after that era.
I admire those old stoners that talk about the years of free love, of free life. Maybe when im old, and i have a fw younger people sitting around me, maybe they too will admire my stories as much as i admired the stories from my elders. And maybe too, there will be a media "lable" for our generation that later generations will view as "cool"
TheSmokingMonkey
12-05-2007, 01:45 AM
I couldn't tell ya, cause I am a freakin' tree hugger and so is everyone I know.
...but I don't think it's from the pot.
I work in a food co-op. I'm a vegetarian. I try to only eat organic.
...and I REALLY LIKE TO GO HIKING!!!!
..oh and...I listen to massive amounts of reggae and classic rock...and jam bands.
I heart you! And I identify with everything you said, especially that it's not the weed. I was like this before the weed.
TheSmokingMonkey
12-05-2007, 01:47 AM
Over here in England i'd say that about 50% of smokers are aged 12 to 21, wear burberry caps, tuck their tracky bottoms into their socks, wear fake gold earrings and would steal your shoelaces if they had half the chance. I dont go near them due to the fear of catching Stupid Dickhead's Disease. The only time they hug trees is when they are trying to gnaw the bark off so that they dont have to waste money on toilet paper.
LOL that is true of some of the dumbass urban dealers where I live, but whatever. I think it's human nature to be a greedy, insensitive dumbass, and some people fall victim to this tendency.
peacefrog14
12-06-2007, 03:41 PM
"hippies" got a bad rep in the 60's cuz the media usually showed the bad sides of them. its just a sterotype. it was part of the culture though. if i was growing up the 60's, i probably would be considered a "hippy" but that is just a label "society" would give me. now, i do like a lot of things that have to do with "peace" and "love", i have some items that says those things. oh well, lol.
beachguy in thongs
12-06-2007, 06:57 PM
I would say that all people who smoke weed, and only weed, love peace. So they are peace-loving weed smokers. It is the pills, beer, and, other supplements, which take out the love in the people, I mean, hippy.
tedsmoke
12-07-2007, 05:45 PM
my theory is that people who smoke pot have a small chance of
changing into hippies by some sort, cuz if they are in a headshop full of beads and colored pipes and stuff, theyd prolly be attracted the colors and everything is so much cooler looking when your high, i know thats what happened to me
silkyblue
12-07-2007, 06:42 PM
yes herb smokers are peace lovin hippies ~~ u betcha :thumbsup:
Im one of em!
folks dont fear a pot smokin hippy
folks dont lock the doors when the hippies are loosed
hippies are the boss applesauce !
Diary of a Madman
12-07-2007, 06:43 PM
Rednecks are basicly the opposite of hippies, and there are an endless supply of reefer smoking rednecks in the south these days. These are different times, keep your fingers crossed everyone.
Easy Rider would not happen today, they would all just chief in the woods with Jack now.
Reefer Rogue
12-07-2007, 06:58 PM
Give peace a chance
crudemood
12-07-2007, 10:43 PM
Yes, when they're high. But when they're sober, they're cranky and irritable. The best of both worlds? Lol.
TheGreenBuddy
12-07-2007, 10:53 PM
Granny is the shit, listen to her, she is smart an as wisdom.
Fuck yeh legalize!
smokerofweed420
12-08-2007, 05:08 AM
I like all the peace signs and stuff like that but too much of it is just cliche. Like i wouldn't mind having a bong or a grinder with a peace sign on it, but if my room was covered in them i'd feel kind of retarded. That being said, I think people who smoke weed are definetly more open minded and peaceful. Many of us have a little bit of hippy in us. Personally i'm a pretty peaceful guy who trys to avoid confrontation and maintain calm at all times. Am i an environmentalist? No. Am I a vegetarian or Peta member? No.
Just because you aren't a full fledged freakish hippy doesn't mean you don't have a little inside you. Or I could be completely wrong. Plus, if marketing that hippy stuff didn't work, they wouldn't do it.
cjshamrock
12-13-2007, 04:49 AM
I'm not a hippie, but I love the hippie lifestyle, and specially their ideals. For that short time, there was a sense of hope that I don't think has been replicated since.
I'm really all for peace and love... I'm a liberal. There are no strangers, only friends you haven't met yet.
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