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The Student
02-08-2005, 10:00 PM
Hello,
I had our old thread deleted so that everyone's email accounts were not just out in the open.
We can all use this thread to keep one another updated on the LR grows.
I have had eight members email me back with addy's to ship to. I have five of them packed and ready to go.
For the others who have not emailed me back yet...please do so ASAP. I want to get everything ready and out so that we can get this show started.
The package is around the size of a CD case. If receiving a package of this size is a problem for you please let me know.
Each pack contains seven seeds.
Take care all
Peace
newgroweroldsmoker
02-08-2005, 10:10 PM
can i get some as well?
newgroweroldsmoker
02-08-2005, 10:10 PM
if so , my e-mail is
[email protected]!
The Student
02-08-2005, 10:56 PM
Hello,
newgroweroldsmoker - Sorry I am maxed out for now. You will be on the list for the next go around though.
Take care
Peace
king1033
02-09-2005, 02:27 AM
HOLY NO WAY can i please have the honor to grow some lowryder i would promise to have a online grow journal i have web cams setup in my grow room to take pictures i have a 430 watt son agro light with a 2x4 foot growing area around 12 plants in 10 inch pots would fit perfectly under my light my email is
[email protected] I CANT TAKE THE SUSPENSE ANYMORE I MUST GROW LOWRYDER PLEASe lemme know thanks man keep on growing :)
OVERGROW THE GOVERNMENT
newgroweroldsmoker
02-09-2005, 04:33 AM
student thanx very much.....i will be looking for next year to come.....hopefully i will get to grow the Lowryder together with some Dolce vita....they should finish around the same time i suppose...anyways...i have posted my BIG question earlier and would like your opinion if that's no trouble for you.....thanx again!
llamaman666
02-09-2005, 04:36 AM
thanks for the concern about us student :) did you get my email, I was a bit slow, I know....... As I said I will grow outdoors so It will be a little. This will be good for germ too I bet
The Student
02-09-2005, 07:09 AM
Hello,
Llama - I got it. Thanks for the reply. You will be pleased with their production outside.
Newgroweroldsmoker and king1033 - I will go ahead and send you guys some also, but I really can not afford to spare any others.
I will be emailing you two tonight. Please respond with a safe addy ASAP. Most of the packages are ready to go out now, I would like to send them Friday at the latest.
Take care everyone.
Peace
potsmoker101
02-09-2005, 06:31 PM
Hi their student.. I would really like it if I to get some of these Lowryder seed's.. Im tired of growing this scwag dirt weed.. Lowryder seems to be a good choice..Plz could ya spare me some.. Email me at [email]
[email protected] ..thanks an Im growing with a 400watt mh conversion bulb..
The Student
02-09-2005, 06:35 PM
Hello,
potsmoker101 - Sorry bro, I will get some to you next go round. I have already gone over my original amount.
Just keep checking this thread, there will be future giveaways also.
Take care
Peace
king1033
02-09-2005, 09:22 PM
hey the student i wanna thank you so much for giving me this opprotunity. for everyone else on this thread im trying to figure out ways to stream video from my web cams in my grow room of my lowryder growing process im trying to figure out a way where you can control the camera which i thought would be prettty cool but one problem me+electronics= idiot so if there is a computer wizz or somthing that might have an idea lemme know or ill just post pics every 3 days. thanks alot
~Keep on growing~
~OVERGROW THE GOVERNMENT!!!~
The Student
02-09-2005, 09:42 PM
Hello,
king1033 - I got your email. Thanks for the quick reply.
The seeds are pure Lowryder. All of the parents, two males and three females, showed sex at 18 days. They are of the larger more sativa pheno.
As mentioned before, if anyone is having problems with germination using your regular methods, I would suggest GENTLY squeezing the seeds between your teeth, along the natural seem. Once you crack the shell a little put them back to germ and they should shoot out tap roots soon after.
Take care all.
Peace
king1033
02-09-2005, 11:16 PM
the student- whats up man this strain keeps osunding better and better what would you say the average yeild would be for the plants since you said they were big and is the high high or stoned? also if i wanted to get seeds how from a male could i seperate the best male from the females in flower and put it in my veg room on the same time schedule will it still flower. woah i hope that all made sense im typing my best cant really consentrate to good :D
The Student
02-09-2005, 11:36 PM
Hello,
King -
1) The average yield that I have experienced is between a half to a whole ounce per plant. That is with the bigger pheno, the smaller pheno yields around a quarter ounce.
2) LR gives a nice mellow stone. I would not consider it an all day smoke, more of an after dinner bowl type smoke.
3) The males do develop quicker than the females so I would suggest collecting pollen and "painting" it onto the females. They will still be producing pollen for a while after they start so "natural" polenation is possible also.
Take care
Peace
king1033
02-09-2005, 11:44 PM
i have never breeded before so u mean the female i like the most polinate it with the best male so like if its the big phenoplant with the half to full oz yeild so would those seeds gatherd from the female when those seeds are grown and they create males and femals wil the female be the same females as the big female i pollinaed for the seeds somthing like that and would it be a good idea to grow my males n the veg rom and the females in the flower room? thanks alot
shaddr3
02-10-2005, 12:08 AM
hey the student i wanna thank you so much for giving me this opprotunity. for everyone else on this thread im trying to figure out ways to stream video from my <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=5&k=web%20cams" onmouseover="window.status='web cams'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">web cams</a> in my grow room of my lowryder growing process im trying to figure out a way where you can control the camera which i thought would be prettty cool but one problem me+electronics= idiot so if there is a computer wizz or somthing that might have an idea lemme know or ill just post pics every 3 days. thanks alot
~Keep on growing~
~OVERGROW THE GOVERNMENT!!!~
I could maybe help ya out with that. www.trackercam.com works pretty good, i have one.
king1033
02-10-2005, 12:15 AM
checked out the site a tad exspensive i think im just gonna save my money and post the pics thank you though for your help i appreaciate it
The Student
02-10-2005, 05:36 AM
Hello,
King - Yes just leave your plants together and they will polinate one another. You can also just "paint" the pollen on after collecting it from the male if you choose to do so.
The plants will not come out exactly like the parents because they need to be stabilized through inbreeding and backcrossing. You will get more and more plants that resemble the parents through continuing to breed them for several generations.
Take care.
Peace
The Student
02-10-2005, 05:37 AM
Some pics...
dylan
02-10-2005, 06:04 AM
i've been hearing alot of hype about lowryder recently, so what's the scoop? do they just flower automaticly like ruderellous(sp)? and i've heard the auto flowering trait is a wild trait from low potency natural outdoor crops....is this true? if so how is the potency?
btw, nice pics student...your seeded crop i guess.
Bspectral
02-10-2005, 06:48 AM
i've been hearing alot of hype about lowryder recently, so what's the scoop? do they just flower automaticly like ruderellous(sp)? and i've heard the auto flowering trait is a wild trait from low potency natural outdoor crops....is this true? if so how is the potency?
btw, nice pics student...your seeded crop i guess.they will probably give 2 harvests in 1 season outside wouldnt they dylan you gotto try them but if you want to, stick with your own strain(i seen the nice outdoor pics)
MrLzyBones
02-10-2005, 03:49 PM
Have you started sending out the seeds yet ??
The Student
02-10-2005, 06:32 PM
Hello,
I will be getting the seeds out at the earliest convenience. I am still waiting on one address, and will not ship out any until they are all ready.
Don't you already have some LR going at the moment anyway MrLzyBones?
The international packages will be going out a day or so later.
Take care all
Peace
littleguitar
02-10-2005, 10:41 PM
awesome pics of those lowryders, Student, wow! do you have a favorite EARLY strain for outdoors? am reading about all these early strains and wonder if they are all they're advertised? got some feminised purple power seeds...hmmm....really curious about them :)
MrLzyBones
02-11-2005, 12:01 AM
Yeah I was gonna say send them to someone else....I got mine going and barring anything major happening ( my first grow ) that kills them all I'll have some seed shortly too. I just couldn't pass up getting some more LR seeds since they can't be cloned as long as you have two seeds left there is a chance to get more. I figure with 14 going I should be ok....course that could be famous last words kinda thing lol.
MrLzyBones
02-11-2005, 12:22 AM
If ya get any good X's of LR and have some extra seeds you got my addy and maybe I can hook you with some of the seeds I'm growing. g13 x Hashplant x LR
The Student
02-11-2005, 05:50 AM
Hello,
MrLzyBones - The seeds are yours if you still want them. I do not mind. I have them packaged and addressed already.
I do have one LR cross that is in production. I will let you know when the seeds are ready. It is the same genetics that Mdanzig is using for Master Low. I got seeds from him quite a while back, grew them out, got one autoflowerer and crossed it with my best pure LR. So to be exact the strain is LR/MK/LR x LR/MK/LR x LR. I am expecting to see some nice autoflowering traits come through.
If you would like I will hit you up with some when they are ready. When the time comes I will need your addy though. I have already erased all of the emails. Addy's are written out on the packages, and they will be out as soon as possible.
How are the g13 x hp x lr growing. This cross seems like it has a lot of potential.
little guitar - Thanks for the compliment on the pics. They are of two of the three mothers that everyones seeds are coming from.
If you need an early strain for outdoor growth then I would suggest Mighty Mite and anything crossed with it. Lowryder crosses generally flower and finish early also.
Take care everyone.
Peace
MrLzyBones
02-11-2005, 09:38 AM
Well the little ones are doing great 2 inches tall now I think gonna put them in gallon pots tomorrow sometime. I'm heading down with the guy accross the street to the club he got a couple white russian clones and they are suppose to have some more. But yeah I'll still take them always willing to keep a good stock up I'm planning on maybe 20 plants growing outside this summer. I figure April-May, June-July, August-Sept so maybe three crops? Kinda wondering what the seed production well be like with a LR and LR x's......when the time comes I'll spread the wealth so to speak myself.
king1033
02-12-2005, 12:14 AM
hey student - when your done perfecting your strain the one mdanzig making master low are they gona 100% autoflower and yeild a bit more and how is the smoke gonna be. I was curious if i could also test those out when they are ready? lemme know thanks man.
-peace
if there is anything else there is to know about this strian im curious
king1033
02-12-2005, 12:16 AM
mrlzybones - i was also curious if i could have the honor to test your g13 x hp x lr i could just imagine hoe good the smoke is going to be and will they have a 100% autoflowering rate? thanks man
llamaman666
02-12-2005, 12:27 AM
they will not have autoflower, and student, what country are you in , Im in the US, so is that domestic or international? and are they sent yet, I beleive friday from when you poseted happened???
im fried
MrLzyBones
02-12-2005, 12:57 AM
king all I can say for now is to watch for my postings on LR and after they are grown and cured I'll pass some around depending on what kinda seed count I end up with. But as it sits now I only have 6 more beans so I'm gonna hold onto them....goto www.treatingyourself.com and look at the seed bank and MD has a LR adventure mix that is suppose to be asst. LR crosses http://www.highbred.net/index.php?showtopic=346
http://treatingyourself.com/cgi-bin/online/storepro.php
king1033
02-12-2005, 02:43 AM
mrlzybones - thanks for the info
does any one know what the average yeild would be on the plant power stout that is coming out soon?
The Student
02-12-2005, 05:32 AM
Hello,
king - The cross that I am growing out is solely Mdanzig's. I do not want to sound like I am taking credit for his work. I am just growing his material, and plan on sharing it with everyone.
If you stick with this grow and keep everyone updated then you will be pretty much guartenteed a spot on the next giveaway. It's the people that take and run who will be left out next go round.
The smoke from the cross is certainly better than pure LR. The plant that was used as the mother (LRxMKxLR x LRxMKxLR) grew out to be around two feet tall and very bushy. She started autoflowering at five weeks old. This cross should yield quite well.
I am not sure at all what the autoflowering % will be. Probably somewhere around 25-30% if I am lucky. It will take about a year of inbreeding to come up with a stablized hybrid.
Llama - I am also in the U.S. I just have a few packages going overseas. I am still waiting on the last member to send me their address. If I do not here back from them by Monday then I will ship out without them.
I work all day Sat. and Sun. So Monday is the earliest that I can do it even if I do get the last addy in time.
I am glad to see so much interest in this strain.
This is the way that the boards should work. A bunch of members get together and work on the same strains, helping out one another, teaching one another, and in the end all smoke the same quality herb (virtually) together.
I have several tandum grows lined up for us in the future. I like to make seed with every crop so we should be set as far as that goes. All in good time though....
Take care everyone
Peace
Bspectral
02-12-2005, 06:49 AM
i never tried LR grow or smoke i wonder how it would cross with n-lights? but i got to say this n-lights girl autoflowered in 5-6 weeks so it got12/12 right away and a then a transplant in a bigger pot. I killed the 6 males that showed at the same time though. look at her now 26 days and about 30 buds that look like a 1/4 oz each already and weeks to grow yet! The second pic is her when she started autoflower before 12/12 mmmmmmm they started frosting a few days ago
The Student
02-12-2005, 07:36 AM
Hello,
Nice looking lady.
LR has Northern Lights in it's parentage. The Joint Doctor (creator or LR) has stated that it is made up of NL x Williams wonder x a mexican ruderalis type. So I would imagine that it would cross very nicely.
Take care
Peace
Bspectral
02-12-2005, 08:00 AM
right on to hear that---if all goes well maybe it'l be a grow to show one day
The Student
02-12-2005, 04:42 PM
Hello,
Time for a quick update.
All addy's have been received. All packages will be going out on Monday.
I will post again once they are in the mail just to let everyone know.
Please post here when you receive them.
For those who can start growing them as soon as they get them.....
....I would apreciate if you keep this thread updated with your progress. If you keep up with this grow I will be sure to hook you up with seeds for the next project we come up with.
Take care
Peace
king1033
02-12-2005, 04:48 PM
YOU GOT IT STUDENT OF COURSE since you were nice enough to let me have these seeds its the least i can do but i still have a question about getting seeds couldnt i just get seeds from the male plant, now if i painted it on the female what would the difference be and since i will be starting out with 7 seeds i dont want bud full of seeds cause i would like to enjoy the lr smoke myself. thanks again man peace my friend is coming by in about 10 minutes with a 8th of haze the goooooood shit :D this blunt is for all of the people on this thread
robert42
02-12-2005, 05:06 PM
DO YALL REKON A 70W HPS WOULD GROW LOWYRDERS? I SAW SUM GD REPORTS ON OVERGROW WITH 70W HPS. JUST WANTED TO SEE WT U THINK?
THANK YOU
newgroweroldsmoker
02-12-2005, 11:32 PM
if you put a 70watt hps into a space 1ftx1ft and a pot(maybe two) with any cannabis strain in, yes it will grow!
MrLzyBones
02-13-2005, 05:02 AM
LR's are pretty tough....I left the door open and the freakin cat got in and ate off one plants starter leaf leaving but one and bit into another one kinking it over. I just put the light behind it and it has turned back up and looks like it well be fine.
Student?? If I have a g13 x Hashplant x LR and it being female using the pollen from another straight LR would that make my chances for autoflower better ?
I have a 400w HPS coming via UPS on Thursday and these babies should take off. I can't believe how fast these seedlings are growing both my LR's and crosses under a make shift combo of ultra cheap toss together lighting.
newgroweroldsmoker
02-13-2005, 07:56 AM
Hello,
Time for a quick update.
All addy's have been received. All packages will be going out on Monday.
I will post again once they are in the mail just to let everyone know.
Please post here when you receive them.
For those who can start growing them as soon as they get them.....
....I would apreciate if you keep this thread updated with your progress. If you keep up with this grow I will be sure to hook you up with seeds for the next project we come up with.
Take care
Peace
sure thing STUDENT.....i will do it......i have a question though....let's say that i receive the seeds and plant them staight away along with my other plants which in a few days time (propably wednesday) will go into flowering....around how long will i need to pick them up (the LR)????? is it in 2,5 months like the say about LR? if i get males will they affect the already female population? is it safer to grow them as the next growth?
The Student
02-13-2005, 08:00 AM
Hello,
King - Seeds do not grow out on the male plant. The male produces the pollen that then impregnates the females pistils (pistils are the hairs), then from there the female plant produces the seeds. So pollenating the female with the male is vital. Here is a link to some info on pollination techniques (http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/t13).
robert42 - I think that a 70 watt hps could grow out 2 nice LR's at a time. With the addition of a couple fluoro's you would be able to grow a couple more at a time.
MrLzyBones - Sorry to hear about the cat going a little crazy. My cat has taken a bite or two out of plants before. Cats no what they want...lol.
If I were you I would take a male and a female autoflowering g13 x hp x lr and cross them. If you only get one or the other then yes I would backcross to a pure lr.
This is the plan of action that I would take (assuming I got a male and female g13 cross.
- Breed the autoflowering male and female together.
- Grow out resulting seed, pick from crop and breed the two best autoflowering plants
- Grow out resulting seed, pick from crop and breed the two best autoflowering plants
- Grow out resulting seed, pick from crop and breed the two best autoflowering plants
- Grow out resulting seed, pick from crop the best female and breed with an apropriate pure LR male. (This is your backcross, this helps to finalize the autoflowering gene).
- Grow out resulting seed, pick from crop and breed the best two autoflowering plants
- Etc., until you end up with 100% autoflowering plants.
At this point you could continue to refine your strain by picking out certain plants for breeding for more specialized traits such as flavor, aroma, etc.
Here is a link to OG's faqs on different breeding strategies (http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/browse.php?topic=3).
Kick ass on the 400 watter! You will love the production these babies can put out.
Take care everyone.
Peace
Torog
02-13-2005, 12:39 PM
Howdy Student,
I'm curious,what's the high like from LowRyders ? Is it very potent-or are ya just using it for it's auto-flowering trait ?
Have a good one...Torog
robert42
02-13-2005, 12:48 PM
thanks for the feedback ill just haveto try and see and let u lot know what happens :-) thank you.
The Student
02-13-2005, 03:42 PM
Hello,
Torog - I would still clasify the Lowryder high as a quality couchlock type of high. Just on the lower end of quality. It is certainly better than mid-grade, just not as good as some other quality strains.
robert42 - No prob. I am confident that just the HPS will do you well. LR's grow out to be pretty bushy, and mine were around 14-16" tall when done.
Take care everyone.
Peace
king1033
02-13-2005, 05:34 PM
student - thank you soooo much for helping me with the polination techniques i used to not know about it but with your helpful resource ive got it all figured out thank you. plus i may have some good news i might have some power stout growing up with my lr ill keep you updated.
king1033
02-13-2005, 06:49 PM
student - i was just wodering the email addy that ive emailed to i sent a couple more emails threw out like 3 days i didnt know if you just opened that email address just for the addys or if you dont plan on using it again could u erase the emeails ive sent cause i dont want them just sitting there u know, it sketches me out. thanks man cant wait til i get those beans as soon as i get em straight into germination :D . peace
chattersjb
02-13-2005, 11:54 PM
Hi Student, sorry about delay, I'm moving soon and with hospital and trying to arrange everything! man! thanks again and you'll get grow pics and report from Tas Oz
:o
thechronic
02-14-2005, 01:57 AM
hey man umm i sent you an addy. hopefully you can ship it this week because im going to be gone this weekend and dont want the seeds to sit in my mail box. oo and also cant wait till they get here so i can get them up and growing so i can post the pics on here. i hope the seeds go threw the mail good. i would fucking kill my self if anything happend to them, here is my addy again
[email protected].
-thechronic :D
The Student
02-14-2005, 05:05 AM
Hello,
chattersjb - No prob. I hope the hospital trip is not a serious one. Thanks for your interest in the project.
thechronic - Please take a minute to read the posts that I have written. I know you sent me an addy and I have stated in this very thread that the seeds will go out on Monday.
Furthermore, in Heart's thread I told you that if you were not in a position (living with someone who is not O.K. with growing) to be receiving the seeds without incident, that I would not ship them. Sorry.
I will not put safety or security on the line.
Take care everyone
Peace
Bspectral
02-14-2005, 05:33 AM
well reading up on the n-lights info posted in this thread by my new good buddy thestudent I figure my n-lights plant is a northern lights 2X5.----look now at the 1 plant
The Student
02-14-2005, 05:39 AM
Hello,
Bspectral - I have said it once and I will say it again...That is one nice lookin' plant! You really seem to have her dialed in.
Take care
Peace
king1033
02-14-2005, 12:33 PM
everything is set up and ready to go just waitin for some beans im sooooo EXCITED!!!!!!!! :D
MrLzyBones
02-14-2005, 06:46 PM
www.treatingyourself.com is having a couple contests and are giving away LR seeds as prizes two different contest so possible to win 20 seeds. Goto the forum and look under what?? CONTESTS....lol
thechronic
02-14-2005, 10:06 PM
well my sis dosent care. she smokes weed to but yeah the mailing thing is ok.
she said she would help me out to, shes 25 and has a creidt card so i can get what i want of line. but anyways thanks for sending them
-thechronic
king1033
02-14-2005, 11:18 PM
the chronic - be careful where and what you buy offline not everyone can be trusted its not that easy buying lights from the right place without your name going on a DEA list these days so my advice buy from reputable places well known for their service. its always better to be safe than sorry. o and good luck with your grow. -peace
~OVERGROW THE GOVERNMENT~
KronicKing
02-15-2005, 02:56 AM
Bspectral those leaves look a little thin to be NL did you buy them from a seed company or get them from a sack of good weed someone called northern lights?
The Student
02-15-2005, 05:20 AM
Hello,
thechronic - In Heart's thread you said to me that you needed to know when the seeds would arrive so your sister did not find out. Now you are saying she is o.k. with it.
I do not feel safe sending seeds to you knowing this.
If you have access to a credit card then you can purchase a cheap strain from a reputable seed bank for your grow.
Take care
Peace
littleguitar
02-15-2005, 12:20 PM
Thanks Student, i'll check out the Mighty Mite strain, sound yummy. now check this out: i ordered some passion # 1 seeds from Pharmaweed (u.k.) some time ago...well yesterday i get this plain white envelope, no return address, from Pharmaweed....said envelope was taped and stapeled shut. i opened with great anticipation (as you might imagine) and instead of seeds, i got a NOTICE OF REMOVAL from u.s. customs and border protection! basically, it said that they intercepted this package containing illegal contrabrand. so naturally i freaked! wrote to Pharmaweed and they are very nice.they replied and said not to worry, no consequences since i didn't formally request them. and they told me to scan the document and send it to them and they will ship my seeds half-price. thay also said this had never happened to them before. it must be that terrorism stuff. anyway, alls well that ends well, i guess. regards, mark
king1033
02-15-2005, 12:24 PM
heyy student just curious did the seeds go out yesterday on monday? thanks again. peace
~OVERGROW THE GOVERNMENT~
The Student
02-15-2005, 03:53 PM
Hello,
Littleguitar - I am sorry to hear about customs taking your beans. It is nice that the seedbank is working with you. If I may suggest something, next time try out Seedsdirect.to or seedbay.com. Both of these sites are ran by Gypsy Nirvana, a very trustworthy person.
If your seeds are seized by customs Gypsy will replace them for FREE. Which has only happened to me once out of a ton of orders. They ship very stealthy.
Excellent choice on strains. Passion #1 is a strain that a buddy of mine grows out. He has been working with that strain for a couple years now. The smoke is nice and lemon/citrus like. The buds are sticky as hell.
King - Start checking your mailbox.
All seeds have been shipped out. Everyone should start to see them show up within the next few days.
Take care
Peace
littleguitar
02-15-2005, 07:38 PM
Student....i wrote those 2 seed sites down and thank you alot. question about ur friend's passion # 1's: growing outside and how early are they? don't have a long growing season here in mich and i'm trying all early strains for the first time, hope they work. yeah, i freaked about that letter from customs for a few minutes, then i got ahold of myself and told the wife...what, if they want to bust me for 10 seeds, they can go ahead...its all good tho...thanks again :)
littleguitar
02-15-2005, 07:44 PM
b.t.w. i DID order some beans from Gypsy Nirvana and they sent free beans with both orders....the bomb!
king1033
02-15-2005, 08:39 PM
went to my mailbox today no luck guess ill have to hold the suspense til tomorrow
ilovelife
02-15-2005, 10:25 PM
anyone no any good sites to order lowriders online? i wanna get some asap so wats a good site that has it currently in stock?
thanks for the help
king1033
02-15-2005, 10:30 PM
well ilovelife - treatingyourself.com has a good selection of pure lowryder and lowryder crosses drchronic.com also has them
hope this helped
thechronic
02-16-2005, 03:08 AM
hey student email me
[email protected] i want to chat with you on this subject.
-thechronic
p.s. im sad :(
potsmoker101
02-16-2005, 03:54 AM
Hey Student.. Just checking.. Really interested in this lowryder strain.. Could ya email me..
[email protected] thanks man see ya..
FUNKYRHINO
02-16-2005, 06:45 AM
[QUOTE=king1033]well ilovelife - treatingyourself.com has a good selection of pure lowryder and lowryder crosses drchronic.com also has them
hope this helped[/QUOTE
hey king how many days since your order
Bspectral
02-17-2005, 12:17 AM
Bspectral those leaves look a little thin to be NL did you buy them from a seed company or get them from a sack of good weed someone called northern lights?
from a buddy of buddies table setup of mixed male and female.....like 1 seed out of 7 was a girl for me.
Bspectral
02-17-2005, 12:55 AM
well i checked up on the idea a bit and ,,,well i could of had brainwreck seeds mixed in i just found out ,,,,its a female brainwreck i got 1 out of seven.....i'l stick with that ,,,and for sure no mazar ones fell in
king1033
02-17-2005, 04:54 PM
o i havent orderd from them but i do know they both supply amazing service because i have heard nothing but good news from these companys
king1033
02-17-2005, 04:55 PM
o by the way that was addressed to funkrhino
o went down to my mailbox today still no luck im hoping tomorrow friday will be the day! ill keep my fingers crossed
llamaman666
02-17-2005, 06:43 PM
i have ordered lowryder/ducksfoot by mdanzig or w.e. from ty, very fast and good shipping. good prices
The Student
02-17-2005, 07:20 PM
Hello,
The seeds should be showing up soon. I can not wait for everyone to get them going.
The next lil' project will probably be the lr/mk/lr x lr/mk/lr x lr. I checked on a seed count of them a couple of days ago and it looks like there will be a decent amount. These will have some autoflowering, but more than likely not all. Only time will tell.
Take care
Peace
robert42
02-17-2005, 07:24 PM
:D i cant wait either student to get them goin :D
king1033
02-17-2005, 07:39 PM
ME NIETHER
potsmoker101
02-17-2005, 08:25 PM
Hey student. Dont you need my address ??? If the next time you get some seeds ???
The Student
02-17-2005, 09:51 PM
Hello,
potsmoker101 - I do not want to get your address yet and then have to keep track of it. I will post in this thread when the next round is ready to begin and at that point I will accept seed testers. Do not worry though, as I said before, you will be one of the next.
Take care
Peace
Asesino
02-17-2005, 10:44 PM
Quick question -do you still use ferts/nutes on Lowryder? Or does the short auto-flowering period mean that the strain grows well regardless of light cycle, nutrients, etc.?
Totalpain
02-18-2005, 12:57 AM
Hey, i heard ur givin out some free seeds student? man u guys are lucky, i wish i had some... my seed situation is looking pretty bad now though... dealers licking their asses and not doing much to find some, ill have to go check out shops around a street they told me, hopefully i will, guy said theres 3 shops on this huge street... lets hope there is... can anyone get me a site, witch they have used, in canada, and delivers in Montreal, qc, a trusty site, and how would u pay? via. credit card? or what? could u get a internet money bill for things like ebay, a gift card or something? any good site that sells some good small growing seeds for a very small scale operation? some good deals? not too much money though, planning on spending 50$ on a few seeds, thanks...
MrLzyBones
02-18-2005, 01:10 AM
www.treatingyourself.com check the seed bank they have some things going on.
newgroweroldsmoker
02-18-2005, 02:16 AM
Totalpain try http://www.thebcsc.com/index.asp it is based in Canada...they send everywhere
THESTUDENT....how long does a letter need to cross the atlantic? just curious....if autoflowering does not take place, then , if i let them grow in veg for at least a month under 18/6 will that increase height and yield?
BSPECTRAL....i got 9 out of 9 females YEAH!(Dutch Passion)but i am going to dispose one for being too weak to hope anything from her...:(
king1033
02-18-2005, 03:27 AM
This is where the magic will go down :D hope you like my setup....
NowhereMan
02-18-2005, 04:29 AM
hey folks
found hell of a deal on some that strian mixed with some other nice ones
http://seedbank.klozitking.com/product_info.php?products_id=136
MTester's Mix
12 pack
$8
This is a mix of crosses, Low Ryder/Ice, California Orange/Ice, and some Top 44 added for good harvest.
that sounds very nice to me
peace
newgroweroldsmoker
02-18-2005, 05:29 AM
KING1033 nice setup you got there.....when are you starting?
king1033
02-18-2005, 05:43 AM
hey newgroweroldsmoker - thanks glad you like it my lowryder beans should be here I wouldnt be surprised if they show up tomorrow and I will also be getting some 100% AF power stout which im really excited to grow. I can't wait til I see the plants full potential.
king1033
02-18-2005, 06:04 AM
student - do you have any good germination techniques for the lowrder i remember you mentioning somthing but i forgot.
o forgot to mention the power stout will be arriving a couple days after the lowryder so both these strains are going to be grown togeather. im sooo excited i cant wait til I get started. well im tired i need some sleep I have a big day tomorrow pending on if those lowryder beans come. need to get some rest.
peace
Bspectral
02-18-2005, 06:15 AM
Totalpain try http://www.thebcsc.com/index.asp it is based in Canada...they send everywhere
THESTUDENT....how long does a letter need to cross the atlantic? just curious....if autoflowering does not take place, then , if i let them grow in veg for at least a month under 18/6 will that increase height and yield?
BSPECTRAL....i got 9 out of 9 females YEAH!(Dutch Passion)but i am going to dispose one for being too weak to hope anything from her...:(
thats such good news to hear about so many young healthy girls and no males...,,..so fortunate...,,..and ur gonna get a grow done that good too i hope....,,,..great news
Bspectral
02-18-2005, 06:20 AM
its a female brainwreck ...not n-lights-----almost 5 weeks flowering now-----
Bspectral
02-18-2005, 06:29 AM
33 days flowering now-----
newgroweroldsmoker
02-18-2005, 10:17 AM
i counted all the future bud-sites in the 4 big ones....it seems that i will have (hopefully) a total of 71 tops (i guess you call them stems)......i wonder if my 400 hps will be able to grow them in fully matured buds like the ones that BSPECTRAL has in his girl.....i think that by week six i will start picking some of them out.....any thoughts? the space i have them is now around the limits that a 400 hps can cover...total of 12 square ft....that's around 33 watts per square foot.....not optimal but above the minimum required for growth!
king1033
02-18-2005, 04:54 PM
hey student whats up i have a question would topping a female LR make any difference from not topping it?
The Student
02-18-2005, 05:35 PM
Hello,
King - I think that since LR has such a "set" amount of time to grow that if you were to use some of its time on topping that it would lose out on time for budding. I am not 100% sure though.
Sounds like a good experiment for our Lowryder Grow Project.
potsmoker101 - Hey, check your email. ;)
Take care everyone
Peace
king1033
02-18-2005, 06:12 PM
hey student whats up man i think ill try it out with the LR and the power stout i also have another question if i used advanced nuitrients big bud from when the plant showed its sex how much more of a yeild do u think i could exspect like a 50% increase? because they say big bud nuetrients has beaten all its competators in that category. o what do u think about my setup any suggestions? PLUS I THINK TODAY IS THE DAY :eek: O SHITT HERES THE MAIL MAN PEACE!!!!!!!!!
MrLzyBones
02-18-2005, 08:30 PM
I was hoping the seeds would be here today but hopefully tomorrow....
The Student
02-18-2005, 08:43 PM
Hello,
King - The grow space looks like it will work wonders.
I use Advanced Nutrients, however not any on lowryder yet. This next go around I will be following nutrients on the LR to see how they respond.
-Sensi Bloom A + B
-Mother Earth Super Tea Bloom
-Dr. Hornby's Big Bud
-Overdrive
-Carboload
-Piranha
-Voodoo Juice
I will follow the lightest feeding schedule that is recommended, and work up the amounts from there.
I am hoping to see a huge jump in production with the LR's and The AN nutrients.
Take care
Peace
lordsoth666
02-18-2005, 10:48 PM
Yo Student, I regret to inform you that I cannot accept the LR seeds, as I no longer have a good place to send them, give them to someone else. :(
king1033
02-19-2005, 05:12 AM
hey student whats up i went ahead and order 1 liter of the dr. hornberrys big bud and also today i found a pretty good deal n some bud but little did i know the bag i got looked very little about the size of a thumb nail i couldnt bieleve it was a gram but little to my amazment it was i was amazed as i smoked it i was high like crazy sry im describing this weird its because im high up off my ass i feel like a crazy guy that likes weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed alot! sry for taking up so much room off this thread for some silling nonsense youll have to forgive me o plus i smoked this blunt of ? (but awesomely amazing) to all people who suport weed in any which way and form. ok i guess ill just stop talking now take care everyone
peace
The Student
02-19-2005, 05:48 AM
Hello,
King - I do not think that you will be disapointed. Advanced Nutrients is an awesome company that stands by what they say.
Lordsoth666 - Hey bro, if you were on the list then the seeds are already in route. Save them for a time when you will be able to grow, or give them to a trusted friend that can grow for the both of you. I am sorry to hear that you will not be able to join in on the LR project.
Take care
Peace
king1033
02-19-2005, 05:53 AM
hey student another qestion say if i had a LR plant that yeilded 21 grams grown threw regular soil how much would the yeild be if that same grow in soil was waterd with that big bud nuitrients from when the plant showed its female sex how much more yeild would i exspect would ya say?
king1033
02-19-2005, 07:27 AM
hey student email me at
[email protected] i have a question for you its really important
The Student
02-19-2005, 07:33 AM
Hello,
King - I just emailed you.
What's up?
Take care
Peace
king1033
02-19-2005, 08:35 AM
hey student whats up man sent you the email back lemme know what you think email me thanks man alot peace
Totalpain
02-19-2005, 10:06 PM
Alright those seed banks seem to have great seeds but HOW THE FUCK DO I PAY THEM? i dont know how to get them shipped to around my post office and i dont have a credit card or anything of the sort... and whats the shipping time/ cost on the seed banks u guys gave me? oh and thanks for answering my question student...
Cheers
Total
Totalpain
02-19-2005, 10:33 PM
Nowwhereman, hey dude, id like to ask u a few things. so i sign up for the site, write an email to the owner, and send him my adress or what? then he sends it to me? how do i pay the in cash? thx man hurry plz i need to know im starting to grow in a week
NowhereMan
02-19-2005, 11:31 PM
Nowwhereman, hey dude, id like to ask u a few things. so i sign up for the site, write an email to the owner, and send him my adress or what? then he sends it to me? how do i pay the in cash? thx man hurry plz i need to know im starting to grow in a week
klozitkings is cool.
your addy is safe with him,
i use cash ,simplyfies things and he knows some folks want no paper trails ;)
.and he will give ya all the grow help ya need.
visit his website forums,(much like these)
ive not seen better service.
or better prices,and i will swear by the magnum 44 and afganni shark,to be nice hardy strains,so far nearly every seed i got from them germinated,
ive used his service for a few years now,
he does new growers a good deed with his starter packs too
learn on good but inexpensive seeds,i have totall fiath in his products
or i wouldnt recomend him.
i just placed a order for Cinderella's Nightmare
cinderella 99 female pollenated by a #1 skunk,
my dream strian in fact,so this year i be trying new stuff .
peace
Totalpain
02-19-2005, 11:46 PM
how do you pay him though? in how much time does he ship? where does he send it, to your house? and if so, a delivery guy just says package for *NAME*? he has some decent quality stuff right? and he does send to canada too? thx z
Totalpain
02-20-2005, 01:20 AM
oh ok, i read about how to on his forum, so you give him the money through a card and then he just sends it to ya i suppose? sounds good, you sure this guy isnt a scam/ wont fuck choppers on you? thx z
Cheers
Total
thechronic
02-20-2005, 02:51 AM
hey student umm i would like for you to email me. i have a set up and waited for the seeds but i guess im not going to get them from you. i just want to talk to you throw email. umm if you could that would be nice. instead of annyoning me...... i just dont want to give any information out about me on the fourm.
-nox
The Student
02-20-2005, 07:26 AM
Hello,
Totalpain - Your welcome.
the chronic - I just emailed you. I am not trying to annoy you, that is not the kind of person that I am. I am open to hearing you out, and hope to soon (via email is cool with me :)).
Take care everyone.
Peace
Bspectral
02-20-2005, 07:51 AM
mail used to take only 2 days,,,then more days ,,,more days ,,,now it probably takes more than 7 days ,,,patience
The Student
02-21-2005, 03:45 PM
Hello,
O.K., I am betting that a lot of you receive the seeds today. It has been a week now. Surely they will start showing up.
Here is to hoping.
Peace
MrLzyBones
02-21-2005, 07:11 PM
No mail today....Holiday
MrLzyBones
02-21-2005, 07:13 PM
Did you see the posting about Trainwreck x LR coming out in the summer ? Now thats one I can't wait to try just in time for the last chance at a summer outside grow.
The Student
02-21-2005, 08:52 PM
Hello,
MrLzyBones - Where is the post? Here, or at Highbred?
Peace
MrLzyBones
02-21-2005, 10:10 PM
I sent an email to you since I cannot send PM's on here..........please confirm you got it or not.
potsmoker101
02-21-2005, 10:23 PM
Nope.. No mail for me either today.. sent you a reply .wit addy.. Am i even on the list ???
The Student
02-22-2005, 04:33 AM
Hello,
MrLzyBones - Email received, thanks bro.
potsmoker101 - Your seeds are on the way. They went out later than everyone elses since you were added to the list later. They will get there soon enough.
Take care
Peace
Bspectral
02-22-2005, 06:03 AM
it'l be 8 days today''''''i bumped into some female BC BIGBUD clones this past weekend''''''and i'l veg them for a week. They might be in the flower room by the time i even start to germinate the LR,if i even do get the LR
robert42
02-22-2005, 11:52 AM
Hey i still not recieved nothin yet? i did send you my email addy.
maybe there just a bit late. hope so.
thanx
The Student
02-22-2005, 03:36 PM
Hello,
Robert - They should be there soon.
Don't worry. Everyone who was on the list has had their seeds sent to them.
Take care
Peace
MrLzyBones
02-22-2005, 06:33 PM
Well I just finally managed to open the package...damn that was some good stealth packing there ( and the Oscar goes to, The Student ). I was hoping for some other seeds to come as well but they didn't hopefully tomorrow. As soon as the seedlings I have now go for another week or two I'll get these babies going. Thanks....again
potsmoker101
02-22-2005, 09:00 PM
Thanks student. I shall keep an update on the lr grow..Will keep in post..
littleguitar
02-22-2005, 10:13 PM
Hi Student....the L.R.'s arrived in the mail today :):):) a BIG thank you and great surprize! they look very healthy and nice, and great stealth packaging, ingenius! we're doing an outdoor grow and i'll keep ya updated and post some pics, hopefully. dumb question: are the seeds mixed sex or ? anyway, its totally exciting here and thanks again, you have restored my faith in humanity :)
The Student
02-22-2005, 10:38 PM
Hello,
I am glad that everyone is starting to get their seeds. Soon it will be LR pandemonium!
littleguitar - The seeds are mixed sex. This way you can find a nice male and female to cross to create your own seeds.
- REMEMBER -
If your seeds seem to be having a hard time germinating then you can gently crack them down the natural seem by placing them in between your teeth and ever so gently apply presure until you hear the shell crack. Once it cracks put it back to germ. Using this method I have gotten excellent germ rates.
Take care everyone.
Peace
king1033
02-23-2005, 12:06 AM
hey sry havent been to a computer latly its feb 22 still no package any day now it has to be ill keep on the look out
littleguitar
02-23-2005, 12:55 AM
ok student...will remember that about germing. cool. question, somewhat off topic, what is the general school of thought here about cutting ur light to 12/12 to sex plants? i am reading a lot of people say that this method stresses plants and may cause hermies. anyone? ty namaste
Bspectral
02-23-2005, 01:11 AM
ok student...will remember that about germing. cool. question, somewhat off topic, what is the general school of thought here about cutting ur light to 12/12 to sex plants? i am reading a lot of people say that this method stresses plants and may cause hermies. anyone? ty namaste
i'l tell u flower them for as long it takes to weed out the males. then u decide if u have only 1 or a few girls what will u do? continue? or if u get alot of females,separate the best ones and continue and veg the others for clones
MrLzyBones
02-23-2005, 03:48 AM
I germed 14 on 2/5/05 and ALL of them were females I had wanted to do a seed crop but it don't look like it now.....when was the last time someone complained about only getting females?
llamaman666
02-23-2005, 09:09 AM
I got them, nice shipping, hard to open man
littleguitar
02-23-2005, 11:05 AM
freezing here, about 4 below and seems like spring is soo far away but getting daylight earlier :) thank you alot for the advice, guys....so its safe to assume that 12/12 prolly won't cause hermies, ok. i don't mean to ask rookie questions, been outdoor growing for a LONG time but never had a forum to go to to ask questions and refine my technique, so i really appreciate this board, believe me :) my neighbor and i started seeds for outdoors on 2/2/05, a bit early i'm afraid, but should be alright. got some 4' flouros but afraid the plants may outgrow them by May. should be interesting and thanks for good company, guyz!
The Student
02-23-2005, 03:25 PM
Hello,
Littleguitar - If your outdoor plants start to get to big, then just clone them out. That will help to control the density and height of your (hopefully) ladies.
Take care
Peace
king1033
02-23-2005, 04:20 PM
IT HAS ARRIVED :D AWESOME PACKAGING STUDENT THANK YOU SOOO MUCH GOTTA RUN GOT SOME WORK TO DO :) GEMINATION TIME PICS WILL BE UP VERY SOON FOR MY GROW HAS BEGUN :D
littleguitar
02-23-2005, 06:42 PM
that is reassuring, thank you all. can't tell you how much i appreciate help from experienced growers like yourselves :) there is alot to learn, obviously. been reading about the PIM pruning method, looks like a winner! take care, little.
littleguitar
02-23-2005, 09:40 PM
er.....that's FIM silly me. live and learn :)
king1033
02-24-2005, 03:25 AM
:D day one: germination
filled a 16 oz. cup half way with poland springs water then dropped all seven seeds in but first cracked the natural seem with my teeth. hey student-what did cracking it with you teeth do again?
pics of germination
Bspectral
02-24-2005, 07:37 AM
maybe 6 girls and a boy ,u can get ur own bunch of seeds then king1033
D4NK3sT
02-24-2005, 05:51 PM
this site Rocks!!! KickAss Job "the student" ive always been fascinated by the characteristics of this strain, if your offer is still open my email is
[email protected] would be more than willing 2 help accomadate some of your expenses....Happy 420 evryone...
king1033
02-24-2005, 11:48 PM
hey student some seeds i cracked before germ is that good or bad and say if i do get 6 females and 1 male how many seeds could i exspect per plant?
i hoping they go into soil tomorrow :D see student told ya i wouldnt let ya down. ;)
MrLzyBones
02-24-2005, 11:55 PM
I have heard 150 from someone and over 300 on a plant from someone....
chattersjb
02-25-2005, 01:59 AM
Damn, hate living down under sometimes! Always the last to get anything! hahahaha
Oh well will have to wait the mail on monday now :( Have a good weekend everyone.
Bspectral
02-25-2005, 03:30 AM
not even here yet to canada either-maybe next week
king1033
02-25-2005, 05:02 PM
its second day of germinating one seed popped the 1st day and was put intot eh grow room last night still waiting for these other 6 seeds to show life i wonder if there is anything i did wrong cause its taking like 2 days so far any suggestions lemme know thanks guys
MrLzyBones
02-25-2005, 05:59 PM
Most of mine popped within 48 hours that was with the papertowel method...I just got the towel wet put it in a glad plastic container and put them on the shelf above my light for warmth. Now I just wet the peat disk and drop in the seed and put in the container and they all have popped open. I have been real lucky in all aspects of Lowryders so far....oh chit I shouldn't have said that now I'm open for a problem.....lol...
MrLzyBones
02-25-2005, 06:16 PM
- Student ?
Do you have any male LR pollen you could send me? Is it even possible to collect and ship it ? and if so whats its shelf life?
king1033
02-25-2005, 08:25 PM
im very happy all seeds have popped and are ready to go into soil i will update with pics later tonight when the light start.
MrLzyBones
02-25-2005, 08:50 PM
Kewl.....GL king
MrLzyBones
02-25-2005, 09:20 PM
Here is a young one....
The Student
02-26-2005, 05:30 AM
Hello,
King - KICK ASS, I am glad you got your babies up and going.
MrLzyBones - I just used up the rest of my LR pollen on another project that I am putting together. I will ask a friend of mine if they will let go of any, but I would not hold my breath. He hates to waste space on males, so the chance of him letting go of some pollen is quite slim.
I am very happy that everyone is having such good germination rates.
Take care
Peace
MrLzyBones
02-26-2005, 05:54 AM
If it is to be it well be....
Bspectral
02-26-2005, 06:17 AM
they still didnt show up
king1033
02-26-2005, 06:29 AM
hey student i have got a question can you email me again thanks alot
robert42
02-26-2005, 02:28 PM
i still aint got mine but im from UK alwasy last to get shit :P
ride n get high
02-26-2005, 02:30 PM
hey student can u send me an email at
[email protected] i gota ask u a question
The Student
02-26-2005, 03:47 PM
Hello,
Bspectral - Please keep me updated if they do not show up soon I will resend. Sorry its taking so long.
Robert42 - Same for you my friend. If you do not receive your seeds soon please just let me know and I will resend them.
I figured the postage on my own, so I may have miscalculated. I think that I got it right though. I always just figure it on my own, and have not had a problem before.
I hope they show up soon though, it costs around three bucks to ship to Canada and right at five dollars to ship to the UK. I ended up sending three to the Uk, two to Canada, and one to Australia.
King - I just emailed you. Talk to you soon my friend.
ride n get high - I emailed you also.
Take care
Peace
robert42
02-26-2005, 04:20 PM
No worries student bro im sure theyll turn up mate UK postman are lazy lol ill let you kno what happens next week.
Thanks
Take care.
king1033
02-26-2005, 05:55 PM
Hey student whats up sry the question i was gonna ask has just been answerd by my mail today a very good friend of mine has just sent me 5 ak47xlrxlr seeds and some power stout 8 seeds and a kickass demo i guess from his band. so their is gonna be some wonders happening in the grow room the next couple of months im gonna have lr ak47xlr and power stout ahhhhhh im soo excited. ill keep you updated
peace
Inferno1540
02-27-2005, 09:13 PM
Hey!
I would absoultely love some LR Seeds!
[email protected]
chattersjb
02-28-2005, 08:59 AM
Once apon a time in a little country, a sad little grower sat and watched the postman walk on past again :( "oh well maby tomorrow" he thinks to himself, reaching for the cone. :)
Hi all, be good
The Student
02-28-2005, 03:45 PM
Hello,
chatter - Where do you live? I think that I may have screwed up the internationals, by not applying enough postage, and will have to resend.
A couple other members (international) are still waiting on theirs also, and I know they should be ariving by now.
Let me know, if you would like to email me at the old address that I had that is fine also.
Take care
Peace
I
robert42
02-28-2005, 03:56 PM
Maybe u did make a mistake up on the international orders has any international orders been recieved? maybe there just taking time. if u did make a mistake of not applying enoght postage and u didnt put a return adress on the envelope then they could be at the dead letter office. that would make sense.
ill keep a eye out.
The Student
02-28-2005, 06:01 PM
Hello,
Robert42 - To the best of my knowledge no internationals have shown up. I am not possitive though.
Alot of the people that said they would keep in touch have not. So it is hard to determine who has received and who has not.
I think that I may have to resend.
- EXECUTIVE DECISION -
If international packages are not received by Wednesday then I will re-ship.
Here's to project lowryder!:)
Take care
Peace
Inferno1540
02-28-2005, 07:41 PM
When is the next go around? I would love to get some LR seeds!
The Student
02-28-2005, 08:31 PM
Hello,
The next project will begin in a couple of months, at the earliest. We will wait until this run is over, then we can work on something new.
Take care
Peace
chattersjb
03-01-2005, 01:51 AM
Student
The L/R is stil MIA hahahaha love the code? hahaha
Seedsdirect usually use $1.61 UK (cheap assed k/board has no pound sign!) for a padded envelope, don't know if it helps, they send from UK fri, arrive here Aust, mon.
Will keep eyes glued to mail box, makes walking hard! hahaha
Peace all
The Student
03-01-2005, 04:54 AM
Hello,
When Seedsdirect sends international they use other methods that involve a bit more cost to ship.
It is a very smart manner to ship, and I do not want to say how exactly on the boards. In the end (when packaged how seedsdirect sends to me) it costs right at four dollars to ship to the UK. It was the slightest bit more to send to Australia.
I do think that I am at fault though. Sorry this is taking so long guys.
Take care
Peace
chattersjb
03-01-2005, 04:56 AM
Hey student
Not a prob "mate" hahaha
Umm drop me a line at my email if you can?
Bspectral
03-01-2005, 05:38 AM
[QUOTE=The Student]Hello,
Robert42 - To the best of my knowledge no internationals have shown up. I am not possitive though.
Alot of the people that said they would keep in touch have not. So it is hard to determine who has received and who has not.
I think that I may have to resend.
- EXECUTIVE DECISION -
If international packages are not received by Wednesday then I will re-ship.
Here's to project lowryder!:)
Take care
Peace[/QUOTE its another week and nothing, monday is gone, i'l see today
newgroweroldsmoker
03-01-2005, 11:55 AM
nothing has shown yet :(
The Student
03-01-2005, 03:39 PM
Hello,
chattersjb - Hey bro, I do not know your email, sorry, I can't find it anywhere in this thread, and I delete the emails as I read them.
You can email me at
[email protected], and I will respond.
Throw in your safe address again so that I can reship tomorrow, if you don't receive the seeds.
To Everyone Still Waiting On Seeds
Please email me at the above address (LRGiveaway) with your safe addy's so that I can reship your packages.
I will be sure to let the lady at the post office apply the proper amount of postage this time.
Take care everyone
Peace
The Student
03-01-2005, 05:20 PM
Hello,
Robert42 - Email received. Thanks for the quick response.
Take care
Peace
robert42
03-01-2005, 05:38 PM
No worries m8 ;)
thanks for the oppurtunity to be involved in the project :)
Peace
The Student
03-01-2005, 08:40 PM
Hello,
chatters - I have received your email. Thanks for the quick response.
Both yours and Robert42's have been packaged and are ready for round 2.
Talk to you soon.
Peace
Bspectral
03-02-2005, 04:59 AM
Hello,
chatters - I have received your email. Thanks for the quick response.
Both yours and Robert42's have been packaged and are ready for round 2.
Talk to you soon.
Peace
nothing yet,,,tuesday is gone,,,i wonder about tomorrow
The Student
03-02-2005, 05:57 AM
Hello,
Bspectral - Email me at the address above and I will reship your seeds to you.
If I get it before I go to the post office tomorrow then I will ship out with the other two that I am resending.
Take care
Peace
smokinlowrider4u
03-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Has anyone ever ordered L r seeds from www.helpyourself.com Are they good and do they deliver for you..
The Student
03-02-2005, 10:55 PM
Hello,
I think that you are meaning to ask about www.treatingyourself.com. They are in fact trustworthy, not only do they deliver in a timely fashion, they provide forums for you to ask/talk/discuss whatever with them.
Hope this helps
Peace
newgroweroldsmoker
03-03-2005, 12:50 AM
wednesday is gone as well.....still here waiting..... :(
smokinlowrider4u
03-03-2005, 01:43 AM
Thanks student i ment that .I am gonna order tomorrow
king1033
03-03-2005, 02:43 AM
student for those who have seeds and are currently growing do you think we should post our grow in a different post because there alot of people asking for seeds here and things can easily get clutterd o plus i will be posting pics of my little babies later tomorrow 5/7 popped through soil plus i am waiting to see which ones live through the 5 ak47xlr i planted and 8 power stout i have planted peace i got to go my munchies are ready downstairs mmmmm hungry
The Student
03-03-2005, 03:34 AM
Hello,
Yeah, good idea. Start up a grow diary for all of us to post in and discuss the different aspects of growing LR. We will try to keep it strictly grow related, I am sure the mods will help us by deleting unrelated posts.
Take care
Peace
The Student
03-03-2005, 03:37 AM
Hello,
Newgrower - Just hit me up with your safe addy again and I will reship.
Take care
Peace
Bspectral
03-03-2005, 03:51 AM
Hello,
Bspectral - Email me at the address above and I will reship your seeds to you.
If I get it before I go to the post office tomorrow then I will ship out with the other two that I am resending.
Take care
Peace
i dont remember where to email you
Bspectral
03-03-2005, 04:08 AM
hmmm page 7 i just found it
Bspectral
03-03-2005, 04:22 AM
the email i tryed to
[email protected] wouldn't go through---------try me at this
[email protected]
The Student
03-03-2005, 05:18 AM
Hello,
Hey bro, you missed the "e" in Giveaway, no prob though I will email you asap.
Take care
Peace
thechronic
03-04-2005, 03:05 AM
hey student hows the growing? man i could use a batch of seeds right now when will you have some more seeds? also i email u and you didnt email me back. well hope yalls growing gose well
-nox
The Student
03-04-2005, 05:47 AM
Hello,
thechronic - I will admit that once I read what you wrote in Hearts thead I got a bit headstrong. I did not feel comfortable sending seeds to you at that point.
However, if you stick around and we continue to chat and whatnot, then next round (around 2 months, maybe a bit sooner) I will be sure to hook you up.
I think that you and the other growers will be pleasantly happy with our next project.
Take care
Peace
newgroweroldsmoker
03-04-2005, 09:03 AM
The student, I will do that....thanx again... :)
Jonny5
03-04-2005, 04:32 PM
a while back i said i put up some pics of my LR hydroponic grow. heres one of my females @ 20 days from germ....
vote4pedro
03-05-2005, 05:47 AM
hey i want some of these! can i get sum? how tall they get? how much and wat ur email?
Bspectral
03-05-2005, 07:17 AM
i am correcting all my posts. The 1 plant in my pics is a Amsterdam Flame X Highway Delight female here's some bud shots at almost 7 weeks
The Student
03-05-2005, 04:16 PM
Hello,
How were you able to figure out the genetics? I thought that it was Northern Lights?
Either way, she is looking good.
Take care
Peace
Bspectral
03-06-2005, 06:37 AM
Hello,
How were you able to figure out the genetics? I thought that it was Northern Lights?
Either way, she is looking good.
Take care
Peace
i just heard from who i got it from that that strain seed was mixed in too so the 1 girl thats going at buddies resembles the characteristics , looks and so she is named.
FUNKYRHINO
03-06-2005, 07:53 AM
hey student i would be very interested in gettin some of those LR seeds man . i would even trade . ive been hereing alot of good things about LR . Well let me know whats up man later
chattersjb
03-06-2005, 12:12 PM
So to those that are already growing L/R from the student, how goes it? Come on guys, student was nice enough to spread the seeds, give us all some feed back! hahahaha
peace all
littleguitar
03-06-2005, 12:23 PM
ur so right, chattersjb.....i am a recipient of the student's generosity also :). been following the thread here and waiting to do my outdoor grow with my l.r. seeds. still a foot of snow here and zero degrees y'day morning....but it is getting daylight alot earlier and almost 30 degrees this morning :) personally, i think it is way cool to be provided some unique seeds and have an ongoing experiment where everyone reports varied results....groovy. got my digital cam charged up and ready to go.....THINK SPRING :)
king1033
03-07-2005, 12:40 PM
this is my crop so far....germination pics of lowryder were posted earlier in this thread
day 9 of growing
king1033
03-07-2005, 12:42 PM
some more pics :D enjoy any questions lemme know sry im not really exsplaining everything i have work in 10 minutes i tried my best exsplaining in the pics any questions i see ill be more than happy to answer peace
chattersjb
03-08-2005, 02:18 AM
Student
You will be pleased to hear that the L/R seeds arrived, safe and undamaged in Oz! WOO HOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (leaps in the air and clicks heels!) :D
Nice big seeds huh, well 8weeks and greenhouse is finished, I'll germ and start to join in the feed back. ;)
Hey King, what you got your seeds in? I like the the Power stout kids, good strong lookin stems, where did you get the seeds from?
Finaly getting medical to grow, so hey ............ let the fun begin! :cool:
Peace
king1033
03-08-2005, 02:44 AM
hey chattersjb - i recieved the seeds from the creator mdanzig my friend i am currently growing 8 of them I re potted them so it all looks alot more organized pictures will be updated soon but if i remember correctly i dont think power stout is out yet im doing test growing for him and putting up alot of grow journals ill be updated my pictures really soon ill keep you all posted
chattersjb
03-08-2005, 02:49 AM
hey chattersjb - i recieved the seeds from the creator mdanzig my friend i am currently growing 8 of them I re potted them so it all looks alot more organized pictures will be updated soon but if i remember correctly i dont think power stout is out yet im doing test growing for him and putting up alot of grow journals ill be updated my pictures really soon ill keep you all posted
Thanks for the info about stout, send us a yell when it goes out to us ok.
peace
Bspectral
03-08-2005, 06:10 AM
king1033 looks like u got em well under control man,happy growing , well maybe i'l get the LR this week,,i'l be way behind , some will be flowering by the time mine'l show roots it seems.===amsterdam flameXhighway delight
The Student
03-08-2005, 06:15 AM
Hello,
Bspectral - I am surprised that the seeds made it to Australia before they made it to you.
I am sorry about the wait. I know what you mean about being behind. I wanted to try and keep everyone at around the same time so that we can all move on to the next project together.
chattersjb - Do you like the music I put on the disc? Glad you got the seeds my friend.
Take care
Peace
llamaman666
03-08-2005, 08:29 AM
next project? too bad ill be behind :(
Im going to sometime do something like this, but that will have to wait for a while
Im going to post a thread with options on what I will breed, it will be a small scale thing that will be mostly for the cannabis.com community.
ill post a link soon
chattersjb
03-08-2005, 12:47 PM
Student
Yes like the music, must admit, never heard it here in Oz before, thanks for enlarging choices, :)
About the seeds, any special instructions, apart from cracking if needed, also
how strong is the L/R genes when crossing(both L/R male x ? and Female L/R x ?)
The main question is I suppose is : Is the "auto open" gene, in male and female L/R a dominant or recessive?
While we are at it, what in your opinion, are some of the best strains to cross L/R with to enhance
A.flovour
B.increase yield
C.strengthen the "auto" gene eg:( Ruderalis Indica flowers not in relation to daylength like al other strains but to age. The Ruderalis Indica hybrid is a very early and short but also potent hybrid)
Have fun
peace
Jonny5
03-08-2005, 05:54 PM
hey,
my loft lowryder grows getting a little impractical now, so decided it is time i build a cabinet, i havent had much experience in making grow cabinets but my wood works pretty good so thought id come up with a design using some equiptment i have got and the rest i can easily get hold of.
i only plan to be growing lowryder or any other dwarfs which is why i have put this in this thread as you guys really seem to know the score.
i only have budget ballasts at the mo that have really bad hums, so ill be chucking them, if any one can suggest any particular quality 250w ballast that would work with my design, would be much appreciated.
cheers
FUNKYRHINO
03-08-2005, 05:58 PM
HEY STUDENT bout when do u think we could talk about hookin me up with some of those LR seeds i would even trade.
newgroweroldsmoker
03-08-2005, 06:02 PM
HEY STUDENT bout when do u think we could talk about hookin me up with some of those LR seeds i would even trade.
you can send mine to FUNKYRHINO.....i have decided not to participate in this round.....going on holidays shortly after harvesting this grow....thanx anyway though for the gesture :)
thechronic
03-09-2005, 04:38 AM
man student thanks i could use them right now i was thinking of growing some of the seeds dro and some reg. i have heard that if you grow out doors you get a better pick is that true? well its nice of you just to even think of sending them to me. man i have like no seeds i was looking in my guts and shit and couldnt find any and yes i do keep my guts=from the left over blunt they say it gets you higher when you smoke it with your weed well it is nice just to stop in and see hows the growin going well it looks like everyone is doing really good. hope to see more ooo and to day i got my d/c to take some pics of the LR student might send me lol well l8.
-TheChronic
Bspectral
03-09-2005, 05:26 AM
Hello,
Bspectral - I am surprised that the seeds made it to Australia before they made it to you.
I am sorry about the wait. I know what you mean about being behind. I wanted to try and keep everyone at around the same time so that we can all move on to the next project together.
chattersjb - Do you like the music I put on the disc? Glad you got the seeds my friend.
Take car
Peacemaybe tomorrow i'm still hoping
FUNKYRHINO
03-09-2005, 04:05 PM
hey old smoker that is very generous of you bro . We will have to keep in contact maybe we can do some trading of our own i have 3 strains right now and would love some of that LR would love to do my part in the next round. LR seems like its takin over these days and i would liek to be a part of it im not sure on how to contact STUDENT so any help would be appreciated thanks guys how do u guys think a cross of LR and cali-orange would do ??
Bspectral
03-10-2005, 04:24 AM
they still didn't arive yet===well i wonder which i'l get going soon ===i got some swiss bliss and some amsterdam flame but still waiting for the LR
robert42
03-10-2005, 02:40 PM
still wating on mine any day i rekon :D
Bspectral
03-11-2005, 07:14 AM
its friday today and if they dont show its another week gone waiting/ heres a swiss bliss on its way to replacing the 1 amsterdam flameXhighway delight in my pics unless i get em today
king1033
03-12-2005, 12:06 AM
hey guys bad news garden got taken by my parents first time in 3 years no worries tho already found a really secure spot so student i was wondering if we can arrange me getting some LR again because i shall not give up same safe addy or just email me for it again if you dont have it anymore
The Student
03-12-2005, 05:51 AM
Hello,
King - I am sorry to hear that you had problems with the grow. Email me at the same address as before, and we will work something out.
Take care
Peace
Bspectral
03-12-2005, 11:54 AM
The Student\well thanx for trying to get em to me ,and u lost postage$ but they didnt come,better not try again ,u'l lose postage again
robert42
03-12-2005, 01:17 PM
Got my seeds today!
Great packaging v.stealth
thanks allow student
i plan to start them off in april and ill keep a thread running wen i do.
Thanks Student :-)
king1033
03-12-2005, 05:59 PM
hey student i have erased all my emails awhile ago cause i r=erase whatever is in my mailbox every 3 days so i no longer have your email any more but if you still have mine can you email me so i can send you the safe addy and i also had another question for you ill ask em in the email if you forgot my email its
[email protected] thanks again student and im sorry for creating more work for you its just that i was sooo upset my little babies were destroyed at 15 days old :( poor plants also i gotta see if the person who gave me power stout and lr x ak-47 will still hit me up with the same deal thats why im soo disappointed i had such a great garden with wonderful LR cross selections and the other thing is out of all 20 seeds i got 18 sprouted and grew i hope ill be just as lucky next go around.
diablo4311
03-13-2005, 12:25 AM
Hi all Im new here and I was thinking of getting some lowryder for my first grow that is if you still have any extra seeds. Its going to be an indoor grow with 4 shoplights. My e-mail is
[email protected]. E-mail me an answer, Would be glad to hear from you even if the answers no.
Thanks,
DP
FUNKYRHINO
03-13-2005, 01:43 AM
Student was wondering if u could email me at
[email protected] so we can talk about them seeds ya got i wanna try crossing LR with g-13 or shiva shanti anyway would love to get some fo those seeds STUDENT will post pics threw out the whole process thanks student
MrLzyBones
03-13-2005, 02:07 AM
I wanna try crossing LR with g-13
I have 4 g13 x hashplant x LR going now and out of those I have 1 male and 3 female and I'm gonna seed those babies...I would post pics but I loaned out my camera.
The Student
03-13-2005, 05:49 AM
Hello,
If you have asked for seeds and left an email address for me to contact you with please read the following.
I have three packs left to hand out.
Email me at
[email protected] for your chance to get them. I will choose (at my own discression) who receives and who does not.
KING and FunkyRhino you two are excluded from this, you both are being taken care of seperately. You both have incoming emails.
AFTER THIS LAST SHORT GIVEAWAY I WILL NOT HAVE ANY OTHER SEEDS TO SPARE.
I encourage anyone who is interested to email me stating:
- Growth style
- How soon you can start
- Camera availability
- Anything else that pops into your head
Take care everyone.
Peace
FUNKYRHINO
03-13-2005, 07:30 AM
I have 4 g13 x hashplant x LR going now and out of those I have 1 male and 3 female and I'm gonna seed those babies...I would post pics but I loaned out my camera.
hey lzy bones that sounds like a killer cross man , will u be posting pics ,, since you crossed LR with g-13x hashplant (which i was gonna do) but ill change it up let some people in here decide which strain i should cross it with ok here is the choices LR x Inca Spirit , LR x Shiva Shanti, LR x Cali-orange , and of course LR x G-13 x Hashplant so everyone let me know what ya think ..... this is gonna be a good yr lol . I wanna thank Student for bringing this community grow together as 1 big learning experiance for all of us through different types of growths GL to everyone .
FUNKYRHINO
03-13-2005, 07:32 AM
what i really wanna try would be a blueberry haze x LR
MrLzyBones
03-13-2005, 08:02 AM
hey lzy bones since you crossed LR with g-13x hashplant
No I did not cross it I just was lucky enough to get some of the beans....Yeah I'm gonna see about getting my camera back tomorrow.
chattersjb
03-13-2005, 03:22 PM
I think we should all send a big "thank you" to The Student, especialy ones like me that he ended up sending twice.
peace
The Student
03-13-2005, 03:45 PM
Hello,
Chatters - Thank you my friend. I am excited to be able to turn this many people on to this strain.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
Take care everyone.
Peace
FUNKYRHINO
03-14-2005, 02:04 AM
HEY Student i sent you an email not sure if u got it or not so just wanted to let ya know i recieved your email thanks man
Bspectral
03-14-2005, 03:26 AM
well i might be the last to get, but i got. |||Thankyou |||The Student||| u are about the friendliest,most generous and sensible person my roots tangled with and i'l get (got)some going tonight along with the Amsterdam Flame i started(my Swiss Bliss died) now i'm Feeling Groovy man||| Thanx Again===and heres a couple pics of my girl 8weeks flowering today
thechronic
03-14-2005, 06:32 AM
fucking awesome just to fucking awesome
The Student
03-14-2005, 06:36 AM
Hello,
Thechronic - Hey bro, email me.
Take care
Peace
Weedbuddy91
03-14-2005, 10:27 PM
Hey student could you send me some seeds when you send them all out
shmoko
03-15-2005, 11:42 AM
student can i have some m8 my email is ...
[email protected]
shmoko
03-15-2005, 11:44 AM
student can i have some seeds my email is ..
[email protected]
littleguitar
03-15-2005, 12:14 PM
still hangin' here, Student...gettin' ready to germ those l.r.'s for outdoor grow....wife has a nice spot saved for me in her flowerbeds....very grateful for those beans. got spring fever worse than i can ever remember, lol.
king1033
03-15-2005, 02:35 PM
:D HEY EVERYONE looks like im gonna be back in action thanks to my friend the student so far the news is same setup as posted earlier in this thread but as far as the garden goes LR so far cant seem to reach mdanzig who hooked me up with power stout and LR x ak-47. So i was gonna ask if you had some other strains to go along with the LR if not its totally fine because you have done way enough for me already and i greatly appreciate it. So just let me know o and i just sent me email to ya (student).
DROSKI187
03-16-2005, 06:49 PM
hey student i know we were best friends in a past lifetime...im one of the biggest growers here in the midwest ROCKFORD, ILL!!! i was wondering we would reallllly love some of those LR seeds!!!! plz reply than :cool:
NwoodE
03-16-2005, 10:26 PM
Hey!
I am looking for a spring hydro grow and would be interested in LowRider seeds.
Email -
[email protected]
thechronic
03-18-2005, 01:28 AM
hey student i emailed you
Bspectral
03-18-2005, 06:19 AM
well i might be the last to get, but i got. |||Thankyou |||The Student||| u are about the friendliest,most generous and sensible person my roots tangled with and i'l get (got)some going tonight along with the Amsterdam Flame i started(my Swiss Bliss died) now i'm Feeling Groovy man||| Thanx Again===and heres a couple pics of my girl 8weeks flowering today
1 LR seed has sprouted nicely ,2 others just peeping out of the shell.The earliest one will be in soil within 24hrs. I harvested my 1 girl this week at 58 days flowered. She's cut off but still flowering 3 bottom buds for a bunch of seeds maybe. If i get some ,if u want ,i'l return u some Amsterdams.
notanovice
03-18-2005, 12:27 PM
student, i commend you on doing such a great job.
here`s a short grow and smoke report on pure lowryder from joint dr.
for those of you who want to know
dwc
rockwool
1000wt hps
custom mixture(my own)nutes
9 weeks from seedling to harvest
harvest-11grm-17grm per, dried
very frosty
smoke report
potency seeded- 5 on a 1-10 scale
potency sensi- 7 on a scale from 1-10
taste- smooth and slighly citrussy
it`s a very very easy plant to grow
grows well under 18/6 light regiment
powerstout from mdanzig is my next lowryder cross , it should have a bigger yield and be more potent with 100% auto flower
thanx a milion student fro your generousity. if we had more people like you out there, we would be able to change the world :)
:) :) :) :)
MrLzyBones
03-18-2005, 02:34 PM
Yeah the Stout is gonna be great when its out for the general public.
king1033
03-18-2005, 07:52 PM
damn im pretty mad i had 5 power stout growing in my garden one was a trileave when it was small 3 inches tall when destroyed by the parents :mad: but hopfully mdanzig will help me out again because of this new location i have found this time i know for sure no one will be stopping me half way into my grow.
hey notanovice whats up man you talk to mdanzig i tried emailing him im guessing hes busy will you let him know that king1033 has a question for him he'll know who I am. thanks a bunch
:D OVERGROW THE MOTHER FU***** GOVERNMENT THOSE BASTARDS!!! :D
FUNKYRHINO
03-20-2005, 07:23 PM
hey Student was wondering if u had shipped those out yet good buddy . Im very excited to start these lowriders so let me know whats up bro
FUNKY
Bspectral
03-21-2005, 04:39 AM
PIC 1---1st LR sprouted March 20/05................PIC 2---Amsterdam Flame, 1 week ahead.
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