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timmyD123
11-28-2007, 01:57 AM
Does anyone know where I can find original c99 seeds? I don't understand genetics, but is it possible to find an "original" c99 mommy in a pack of f5's or f whatevers? If so, roughly how many packs would I have to grow out to find what BrosGrimm called c99? Sorry, I don't understand genetics or breeding at all, I just want this strain.
Also, can anyone recomend a fast, mold-resistant strain for me?
And more...I live around 20 degrees north of the equator, very hot and humid. How will my plants know when to flower if there is always around 12 hours of sunlight? Do I have to fake wintertime? If so, how can I force flower them (outdoors) without covering them? I worry it would cause almost instant mold to cover my biggest girls with plastic.
One last thing! How are Jamaicans able to grow pure indicas outdoors? I always thought they only grew stringy sativas until I went there and found out that they have the same american/dutch indica heavy hybrids...grown outdoors in a humid ass farm! How do they pull it off?
greenhorngrower
11-28-2007, 02:51 AM
Hemp Depot.. Joey weed has it.. dunno if its f1 though
zebulon
11-28-2007, 02:58 AM
Hey buddy...most plans don't simply just start to mold in high humidity...only in the end of the flowering is there a high risk of molding. If the plant has some dead matter, the mold gonna develop there, and if you do nothing about it, it will grow... but the plants mostly don't have dead parts, just in the flowering cycle can some dead matter develop...
But this is just my opinion, so it's not 100%.....:postreadfaq:
Roughrider
11-28-2007, 03:06 AM
The switch to 12/12 is based on fall approaching in Northern Latitudes, when the length of the day goes from having around 14/15 hours of daylight in summer to 9/10 hours of daylight in winter. Even if you're at 20 degrees north, there's enough of a shift between the length of a day during the summer and winter for your plants to "know" when to flower. As an example, I'll use Puebla, Mexico. It's at 20 degrees 11 minutes longitude...about what you're talking about. In mid-June, the day is 13 and half hours long. By mid-September, it's an hour and a half shorter. The plant will flower when it senses the day getting shorter. The farther from the equator, the faster that drop happens. this means shorter grow seasons. Shorter grow seasons = less veg time and smaller plants. Longer grow seasons = longer veg time and plant growth. Essentially, where you are, you'll have to wait a while for your plants--because you've got a really long grow seasons--but you'll get big ass plants.
F1 and F2 are used to refer to how uniform a hybrid plant is. A simple way of looking at it is with human eye color. A man with "pure" straight hair marries a woman with "pure" curly hair and they have kids. If straight hair is dominant, all of their kids will have straight hair. You get a uniform trait. The kids are considered to be the F1 generation of the hybrid. But if one of the F1 kids with straight hair married someone with straight hair from another family that was also an F1, they have a 1 in 4 chance of their child having the recessive trait...in this case, curly hair. So you got more variance with their kids, who are the F2 generation. Now multiply that by hundreds of traits. The more generations you have that get away from pure stock (F2, F3, F4), the more variance you have. The point of plant genetics is to have uniform plants with good qualities and keep out the variance. If a plant is "stable" or "uniform," it means it's still near the original F1. Older strains, like Northern Lights, have been bred pretty true...it's hard to go wrong with something like that.
As to mold and stuff like that...there's too much to choose from to recommend one strain. Just do some research and see what appeals to you.
rhizome
11-28-2007, 03:21 AM
I don't think you're going to find any original Grimm stock anywhere, without some very serious connections. It'd probabley be easier to find a cut off of somebody's maintained mom.
You ask an interesting question, as Cindy is a " stabilized selfing" of an individual named Princess- A mature seed was found (in, believe it or not, a bag- admittedly a very special bag in a very special place where there are NEVER seeds in your bag), said seed was popped, cuttings were taken and flowered- and they were special.
So Princess was bred against I don't even remember what- a JH maybe?, long time ago, stoned... to produce 50%Princess ( hereafter P)/50%Other(hereafter X).
A male from this union was used to pollinate Princess again- the seed from this gen is now 75% P/25% X.
Again, a selected male was used to pollinate a third run of seed from Princess- This one is 87.5% P/12.5% X.
And so on, and so on, until a seed generation that was genetically 99% Princess was achieved, tested, and released as Cinderella 99. Why Cinderella? I don't know. I kinda like the sound of " Princess 99".
Anyway, assuming that nobodies done anything to introduce genetic material to their version of the strain, it should remain pretty consistant.
I've run BG Cindy and the 1st gen Nirvana knock-offs- there was the inconsistancy that you'd expect in an F2 generation, but the Nirvana was real Cindy, at least in the middle of the Bell curve. I'm sure that it's been run off a couple of times by now, so I can't speak for the current batch- but I'm sure you can find what you're after in their stock. Cindy was never perfectly uniform- I saw at least two phenos, and arguably more.
The Federation stuff is pretty mold resistant, and some is fairly quick.
If you always have 12 hours of darkness, you may find that you have to fake summertime- give them an artificially long day- to get a decently sized plant before flowering. Or you could just grow a lot of small ones.
Outdoor grows with good air circulation and few long rainy periods in flower shouldn't have mold problems- They're associated with poor airflow and tissue that remains wet for extended periods.
Hope this helps.
norkali
11-28-2007, 03:36 AM
To add to Rhizome's answer....
The J(ack) H(erer) seed was crossed with Shivaskunk in order to give it heartier stems.....
The Cinderella 99 Story (http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=61)
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