Molassas

[murktinez]

seen alot of people using it, but what exactly does it do?

[iriebowl]

im not really sure but its got micro nutes. im using it and i have noticed that my plants like it. they're a lot more sugary, stinky, bigger calyx's, and over all fullness from the mother plant i didnt use any molasses on.

[spongebobsmokepants]

It makes the smoke smoother and sweeter. It also makes the buds form trichs a little faster. 2 Tbsp of molasses per gallon will lower the ph a full point. Be mindful of that because nutes also lower the ph.

[Charles U Farley]

If Im not mistaken molasses is also a chelating (sp?)agent.There is a great article written by the three little birds on molasses and organic teas.Just google it and you should find it.If not let me know as I know I have the link laying around somewhere.

Here are a couple of paragraphs from the article,sorry I couldnt find the link but it should be an easy search.Take care,be well,and most of all be safe.

Molasses is a good, quick source of energy for the various forms of microbes and soil life in a compost pile or good living soil. As we said earlier, molasses is a carbon source that feeds the beneficial microbes that create greater natural soil fertility. But, if giving a sugar boost was the only goal, there would be lotâ??s of alternatives. We could even go with the old Milly Blunt story of using Coke on plants as a child, after all Coke would be a great source of sugar to feed microbes and it also contains phosphoric acid to provide phosphorus for strengthening roots and encouraging blooming. In our eyes though, the primary thing that makes molasses the best sugar for agricultural use is itâ??s trace minerals.

In addition to sugars, molasses contains significant amounts of potash, sulfur, and a variety of micronutrients. Because molasses is derived from plants, and because the manufacturing processes that create it remove mostly sugars, the majority of the mineral nutrients that were contained in the original sugar cane or sugar beet are still present in molasses. This is a critical factor because a balanced supply of mineral nutrients is essential for those â??beneficial beastiesâ?� to survive and thrive. Thatâ??s one of the secrets weâ??ve discovered to really successful organic gardening, the micronutrients found in organic amendments like molasses, kelp, and alfalfa were all derived from other plant sources and are quickly and easily available to our soil and plants. This is especially important for the soil â??micro-herdâ?� of critters who depend on tiny amounts of those trace minerals as catalysts to make the enzymes that create biochemical transformations. That last sentence was our fancy way of saying - itâ??s actually the critters in â??live soilâ?� that break down organic fertilizers and â??feedâ?� it to our plants.

[stinkyattic]

The simplest explanation is that it is a cheap, safe source of Carbon for the plants. Plants use carbon to put on mass and produce aromatics and resins.
Giving them more carbon means that they can make more resins. Add a carb synthesizer such as Sweet or TopMax for even more efficient use.

[PharmaCan]

The simplest explanation is that it is a cheap, safe source of Carbon for the plants. Plants use carbon to put on mass and produce aromatics and resins.
Giving them more carbon means that they can make more resins. Add a carb synthesizer such as Sweet or TopMax for even more efficient use.

Stinky, do you use the Sweet per label directions, or do you cut it back?

PC :smokin:

[Hennessy1414]

if u use molassas do u need to use ferts then? i sprayed my crops with molassas water and the leaves after they dried looked like some residue left on the leaves. too much molassas mabY? idk help would be cool :rastasmoke:

[mushaboom]

is it really such a good idea to spray your plants with molasses? seems to me like it would gunk up the stomata, leave the plants generally sticky ( not the good kind ), and probably attract bugs.

[klondike_bar]

i sprayed my plant with sugar water and it left shiny sugar residue crap on there that took 3 water spraying to get off

[Hennessy1414]

stinky would kno. stinky oh stinky.......:rastasmoke:

[stinkyattic]

I use sweet at levels up to the label instructions; I don't really measure carb supps.
You still need 'real' fertilizer. Molasses is not a proper source of NPK.
It's not really a good idea to foliar feed molasses because of the stick residue, risk of attracting pests, risk of suffocation, etc etc etc, plus it's just not really an efficient way to deliver the stuff.

[growbe]

I tried MOL as a foliar feed and it's not a good idea like stated above. I use a product caled heavy weight which is really just an expensive store bought MOL. It states to add it to the 3rd, 5th and 7th week of flower. I also tried it during veg (water not foliar) like a lot of people do on one plant, and I found that the plant did not respond very well at all.

[Hennessy1414]

I tried MOL as a foliar feed and it's not a good idea like stated above. I use a product caled heavy weight which is really just an expensive store bought MOL. It states to add it to the 3rd, 5th and 7th week of flower. I also tried it during veg (water not foliar) like a lot of people do on one plant, and I found that the plant did not respond very well at all.

ive heard of people using MOL the whole cycle using it every time they water. thats what im doin :greenthumb:

[erock0609]

ive heard of people using MOL the whole cycle using it every time they water. thats what im doin :greenthumb:

In the 7th week of flowering and Ive been watering with molassas every watering the past week (1 tsp per 325ml water). Seems to be doing wonders.

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[PharmaCan]

Here's some White Widow buds in the seventh week of flowering (ten week strain) that have been on molasses the whole time - 2 Tbsp/gallon. I've been using Sweet the whole time too.

The buds are a little bigger around than a golf ball, very solid and covered with trichs. ...and I still have three weeks to go. WooHoo - I think they're gonna be big ones in the end!

PC :smokin:

[Hennessy1414]

Here's some White Widow buds in the seventh week of flowering (ten week strain) that have been on molasses the whole time - 2 Tbsp/gallon. I've been using Sweet the whole time too.

The buds are a little bigger around than a golf ball, very solid and covered with trichs. ...and I still have three weeks to go. WooHoo - I think they're gonna be big ones in the end!

PC :smokin:

o wanna munch those. what lights u using? how many crops? :rastasmoke:

[CannabisCarl2134]

^^ Nice. What other Nutes are you using?!?

[PharmaCan]

I'm using Latewood's formula.

http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/112898-basic-advice-additives-start-little-grow-big.html

PC :smokin:

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

I have been watching this thread and I did find this online, does anyone use this, it is very cheep, feed quality though, I don't know if it is better or the same as blackstrap mollasses. did a check and it does not take you directly to the page. Do a search for mollasses and you will find it for $5.95 a gallon.

I hope the link is there if not here it is this way
Horse Supplies & Horse Tack - Horse.com (http://www.horse.com/products/sku-BWL11GA_id124_scode-hbizrate.html)

[kdspecial]

Should I bother adding Molasses to my Nute Program If I am not going to Add Sweet?

I'm in Coco Using PureBLend Pro Bloom and BIO-GENSIS "HighTide" for my flowering needs. As well as Magi-Cal for Mico Suppliment,,,

Making the plants happier and tasting better sounds good to me. But I don't wanna add somthing that Isn't going to benifit me If I don't have Its counter part ie "Sweet"

THanks for any Help

Thanks Kindly

kd

[twoguysupnorth]

yes you can use mollases without sweet, thats stinkys thing. something about processing the goodies even better. just plain molasses still helps though. i use it all of the way through, lighter when it is in veg and heavier while in flower. i also quit the last week or so before harvest just because the first time i used it more heavily and untill the end. it seemed to me you could taste it in the finished bud.

[kdspecial]

Cool thanks for the replys... Im one week into flowering so Looks like im gonna Grab some from the local Food store.. Give it a try this grow.. See how My Papya Clones like it!!!..

kd

[cwesto]

Stinky, im using grow big right now and have only about 1 1/2 weeks veg to go. Im gonna start adding open sesme to the grow big, for a couple weeks. Then when i flower im gonna be using tiger bloom along with FF's tri-pack. Im not seeing any carbon on tiger bloom or any part of the tri-pack, should i throw in some mollassas to the mix????

[stinkyattic]

Carbon comes from a bunch of different sources and I've never seen it listed as a fertilizer component, even though any fertilizer that contains sugars obviously has C in it.

The soil, air, and even to a certain extent the water all carry Carbon in some form. Molasses is simply a nice safe way to guarantee that your plants have a good source that they can uptake through the roots. Go ahead and add some molasses, a couple tablespoons per gallon is PLENTY, and you don't need to add it at every watering.

My molasses schedule:
1 glob per economy-sized laundry detergent bottle approximately whenever I remember to/ feel like adding it... glob size is dependent upon ambient temperature... Oh, and I add sweet or topmax at a slightly lower dose than the manufacturers recommend along with teh molasses.
:D

[bud luv]

hey stinky do you do the same ratios of molassas in dirt/hydro?

[Subjekt]

Hey Stinky instead of me using the Kool Aid Method(remember that one :thumbsup: ) I've decided to use just a tsp of sugar in a gallon of water at least 1 out of 5 waterings.. That dosage should be good enough? And i haven't got molasses in my presence so sugar was the next best thing IMO...I learned a great deal when tampering with delicate strains and adding food coloring such as kool aid....But the sugar works wonders, thc has doubled in a matter of days and when harvest comes around, i'll let it sit with Apple peelings.....

peace

[klondike_bar]

i put some sugar in when watering, and had a VERY light surface white stuff. i naturally cried mold and lightly soaped it and that got rid of it. (was it mould/why?)

[twoguysupnorth]

it couldnt be easier, a little mollasses helps. (except in folliar) add some during your watering schedual and see if it doesnt. dirt, not hydro since i know nothing(or very much of the other)

[cwesto]

Carbon comes from a bunch of different sources and I've never seen it listed as a fertilizer component, even though any fertilizer that contains sugars obviously has C in it.

The soil, air, and even to a certain extent the water all carry Carbon in some form. Molasses is simply a nice safe way to guarantee that your plants have a good source that they can uptake through the roots. Go ahead and add some molasses, a couple tablespoons per gallon is PLENTY, and you don't need to add it at every watering.

My molasses schedule:
1 glob per economy-sized laundry detergent bottle approximately whenever I remember to/ feel like adding it... glob size is dependent upon ambient temperature... Oh, and I add sweet or topmax at a slightly lower dose than the manufacturers recommend along with teh molasses.
:D

I got some Blackstrap today and plan on getting some sweet also, which will both be used for next grow. I will probably use the mollasses every other feeding or once every three feedings. Should i use the sweet every feeding, or only when i use the mollasses???

Also, Stinky i was thinking of adding liquid karma, for over-all health of my plants, i figured they could use the vitamins. What else does liquid karma do for the plant?? and would it be suitable with mollasses, sweet, and FF 3-part liquids?? or is it not needed..