Plant With A Twist

[slogro]

I'm growing in a 15" x 12" x 35" old school speaker box.
2 x 26watt 6500k cfls daylight
2 x 26watt 2500k cfls soft
1 fan for air circulation (32cmu)
2 x intake/outtake w/ carbon filters on bottom of box.

Anyways...

What do you think my situation is? I'm a virgin grower. My pH is fine. The strand is Sour Diesel. Buddy cloned it for me, about a week after transplant.

[slogro]

haha i edited this at 4:20

[akon213]

looks good man. looks real good. :thumbsup:

[slogro]

looks good man. looks real good. :thumbsup:


So this is normal? I thought I could of been a victim of heat stress......

[whatsthatsmell]

Well, heat stress can cause that. What you need to do is remove that tin foil as a reflector. It is causing heat spots within your grow. If your gonna use a speaker box, you need to paint the inside white, or get some mylar. Also, put a fan in there so that you can get that plant to hold itself up as it gets older.

[stinkyattic]

Acute heat stress. Add ventilation. Lose the tinfoil. Be careful not to over or under water. I can't tell but that soil looks a little soggy. Just double check that.

[slogro]

Thanks guys, I'll remove that tin foil asap.. I already put a bigger fan in there.

Can anyone set me up on a watering schedule? It's a 1 gallon pot.

[whatsthatsmell]

water the plant when the soil is dry, to test that simply stick your finger in the dirt up to your second knuckle, if its wet you dont need to water, if its dry, you need to water. Simply water the plant until some comes out the bottom. Depending on your enviroment, medium drainage, etc, etc will determine how often you have to water. Once you see the 5th set of true leaf's start with the nutes at 25% strength and then about 2-3 days later or your next watering you jump up to like 50% and so on and so forth until you reach 100% strength on the nutes. Also, every 2 weeks do a soil run-off test to see where your plants soil pH is, that will keep your plant extremely happy.

Hope that helps

[slogro]

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Hope that helps

Thanks everyone. I will keep some extra attention to my little girl.
I work a full shift today, and I'm running my ventilation fans on high.

I'll Report Soon.

[slogro]

Alright guys.. Not looking good. Day 7

I watered them last night, pH of 6.0-6.5 abouts, gave them close to a liter. Now those twisty guys on top seem to of died off and wilted.... I have a computer fan blowing on them for air circulation, but doesn't seem to be helping.. I also removed the tin foil, but still need to paint the cab flat white. My soil seems a little dry and not sure if I should water them again, I don't want to over water. I just watered them last night. The little white guys in the soil turned orange/brownish.

Am I doing something wrong..?
I hate to be killing such a beautiful thing.

I moved my cfls about 3 inches from the top of the plant just a few minutes ago. Still on 24/0 light. 6 days since transplant.
They just don't look healthy...

[slogro]

bump b4 i goto bed..

anyone...?

[klondike_bar]

a litre is a lot of water

id suggest 1-2 cups every other day

[LuciferN]

I'm no expert but they look good to me, there is no yellow on the leaf, the tops one look like they are comming out, you're plant seem to be growing. What is the temp in that box ? The soil maybe dry because it is too hot in there, what is the humidity level ?

[Gundari]

*M. Night. Shamaylan voice*
WHAT A TWEEEST!

[spongebobsmokepants]

You are definately overwatering. The soil looked wet on the 19th and then on the 20th you said you watered again. At the stage your plant is in I water every6-8 days. Let the pot completely dry out before watering again. Shoot for around Nov. 26 or 27. feel the weight of the container. I bet it feels heavy. In a week it should be considerably lighter.

[klondike_bar]

a week is a long time unless your really soaking it. id say 2-3 days.

a good method is wait till the top inch has dried (b/c of plant, not lights heat) and you can jam your finger all the way down without having any wet dirt stick to it

[slogro]

Okay everyone. Hope everyone is haveing a good thanksgiving in the states. But in this little box things aren't just working right.
I included pics..

In the one of the leaves, they developed dark spots on the ends. But in all together, they just seem like they lost their will to live.

The others are just to show my grow box to see if I'm making any mistakes. And how to fix anything.

The soil was bone dry when I opened the cab. But I gave them a lot of water the other night. Over a liter.

The fan is on 24/0 lights 24/0

[Indico]

If you stick your finger in the soil up to your second knuckle you're going to damage the roots. It happenned to me on my first attempt and the plant never recovered, it looked just like yours. You do have a big pot but there are roots everywhere. Best wishes.

[stinkyattic]

Something is going wrong with your soil chemistry.
Flush that sucker out WELL. 3 times the volume of the pot, using water at pH6.7, adn if you are feeling sassy, drill extra drain holes in the sides of the pot.

[PharmaCan]

a litre is a lot of water

id suggest 1-2 cups every other day

Klondike - you know next to nothing about growing, and you have never grown a single gram of mj, yet you are all over this forum posting bogus "advice" on almost every thread.

Slogro wants some solid advice on how to save his/her plant - something about which you have absolutely no knowledge or experience whatsoever. So why don't you quit pretending like you are an expert, you aren't impressing anyone.

PC :smokin:

[slogro]

hahaha

Thanks for the replies guys.

I came home today and she looks pretty dead..... I'm going to flush her out and see where that takes me. If this doesn't work, I'll just assume the transplant was a complete failure.... but for now I'm just running 2 26watt 6500k daylights to bring them back... A little water for now, and tonight when I can open my cab, she'll get a nice flush.

Thanks for the help guys.


EDIT: This is my first grow. I don't expect much, but a good learning process.

[klondike_bar]

ow...comon pharma. im giving my honest opinion, and i do infact have several girls growing right now.

in my experience, a cup of water every other day is just enough to let the soil dry in the top 1/2 inch and then redampen

[PharmaCan]

ow...comon pharma. im giving my honest opinion, and i do infact have several girls growing right now.

in my experience, a cup of water every other day is just enough to let the soil dry in the top 1/2 inch and then redampen

The point is, your only experience is the couple plants you have going right now. These forums aren't for your opinions - they are for people to get solid advice from growers with experience. The problem is that you feel the necessity to respond to almost every thread with totally bogus "advice" and some poor soul with a problem might just think you know what you are talking about and follow your "advice" and damage their grow.

You seem to think of all this as harmless fun. You don't seem to understand, or care, that someone probably put a lot of time, effort and money into their grow and that you could spoil all of that for them.

PC

[slogro]

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PC


Thanks PC

And yes. Alot of resources went into this grow, regardless of it's progress.

I just want to have fun and gain a little green from it.

[stinkyattic]

Well sorry to hear your plant is bummin'.
A couple words of advice since you are now starting from scratch:
-Don't re-use the soil.
-Get the new seedlings off to a good start in either an UNFERTILIZED seedling mix or rapidrooter plugs
-Check out the soil mix in the link in my siggy for the first transplant; it's HARD to screw up
-Don't feed ANYTHING until after the 4th set of leaves has unfolded fully
-The first feeding should always be very weak

To put an end to the argument over watering, everyones' plants will use water at different rates dependent upon the following factors:
-Size of plant
-Life stage
-%RH and temperature in room
-Composition of soil
-Plant health
-Distance to lights

To say 'use xxx amount of water every xxx days' is misleading, at best.

A grower should ALWAYS judge watering schedules by how light the pot feels. Avoid sticking your finger in there repeatedly- you'll damage the roots.
Never use a pot larger than your plant needs, because the moisture in the parts where there are no roots will just sit there and stagnate. Start off in a pot no larger than a party cup and transplant as needed.

[andy1212]

Dude i think you should take a temp reading of your box. I have a similar size grow box and with two vent holes and a small fan i hit 95f with two cfl's.

[shoneedog]

Slogro- learn to grow something, anything else first before trying to grow something you really care about. Try some bag seed or even cheaper is tomatoe seeds. Tomatoes will grow alot like weed- fast when conditions are right and they suck the water and fertilizer too.
Happy learning.........:)