will you go to heaven or not

[blueburyboy]

if i do i hope ther will be weed ther and kfc

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Buddha will sit on God's knee, throwing peices of KFC into his mouth.

[Cannabis-Sativa]

no, because heaven is man made, and it is only in our minds.

[benvortec]

No God = No Heaven = stay high till the day that i die! :jointsmile:
I hope that makes sense... i'm soo baked :stoned:

[benvortec]

if i do i hope ther will be weed ther and kfc

I second that! That would be a kick ass heaven if it were real! :bonghit: :eat:

[DurbanStone]

religion was made by the rich, for the poor.

[LIP]

If heaven and hell WERE real, which they are not, i'd definatly be going to hell. Deep down im alright, but i can be a real c*nt, and am most of the time. Hey, at least my lighter will never run out down they're - and there will be plenty of ganja - that's IF it really IS the devils weed.

[Nochowderforyou]

Forget heaven, I want HELL! The searing heat, I'd love it personally. :p

[Stemis516]

how are u guys so certain in the lack of any heaven or hell?

[DurbanStone]

because humans made it up?

[Nochowderforyou]

how are u guys so certain in the lack of any heaven or hell?

Simply: There are people who believe and people who don't, so if I answer your question, you have to answer mine.

I am one who doesn't believe in God or the bible. That doesn't mean I am Athiest as they are just as close minded. I am not sure how we all got created, but I am not going to accept the first thing that is thrown at me. Why? Because the reason we are given why we are here is not logical. An invisable man in the sky and a ressurection is impossible logic. It is not proven. It is a man made prophecy and does not sound logical. I prefer to find these answers myself to why we were created and how we came about. That's my jouney to figure out. :)

Now, why are you so sure there is a heaven or a hell?

[beachguy in thongs]

If I die, I certainly wouldn't be subjected to hell's fury.

[geonagual]

What is heaven or hell?

[Gundari]

The way i see it is that hells gotta be the better place to hang out.
I mean the devils gotta have some danke ass weed and he's gotta throw some bomb parties.

I am an atheist so i dont really believe in heaven or hell but if they do exist. I certainly haven't done anything that would warrant me going to hell, I like to think Im a fairly good person, i volunteer and stuffs.

[blueburyboy]

well ther is only one way to find out and its not a nice way thats my theriy

[geonagual]

I want some pizza

[psychocat]

Heaven won't have me and Hell is scared I'll take over. :D :cool:

[cm8883]

I wonder about this kinda stuff all the time if I'm stoned and alone. Maybe "heaven" is whatever your mind perceives it to be...my idea of heaven would be endless water, endless relaxation, endless peace of mind.

[Purple Banana]

Nah, if you're always relaxed and peaceful, where's the variety? It's all good until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious. Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in a nicely and well preserved body; but rather, to skid in broadside, thoroughly fucked up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "FUCK YEAH! What a ride!"

[mfqr]

I have no idea if Heaven or Hell exists, or God exists or not. Simply put, none of us know what is awaiting us after this life. We can imagine, and make up our own ideas, but it does not matter - because it would never affect the end result.

If there is a hell or heaven, I'd probably be going to hell. Not because I'm a bad person, but because in this life I'd rather control my own mind the best that I can. I want to do whatever I want to do. That's my philosophy... enjoy life no matter what, as long as you are not doing it at the expense of someone else's enjoyment of life.

[Coelho]

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.


That's really interesting Coelho because I have the same belief! I don't actually know if and how you carry on after death, but if you do I believe the mindset you go out with affects whatever happens thereafter. And you're that dying is the ultimate trip, your body releases all it's seratonin/dopamine/endorphines hitting you harder than any hallucinogen could. As for DMT, I recall hearing about this, but doesn't it basically work by binding to certain seratonergic receptors?

[LIP]

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.


That's an EXTREMELY good explanation/theory. I like it! :rastasmoke::D

[Stemis516]

Simply: There are people who believe and people who don't, so if I answer your question, you have to answer mine.

I am one who doesn't believe in God or the bible. That doesn't mean I am Athiest as they are just as close minded. I am not sure how we all got created, but I am not going to accept the first thing that is thrown at me. Why? Because the reason we are given why we are here is not logical. An invisable man in the sky and a ressurection is impossible logic. It is not proven. It is a man made prophecy and does not sound logical. I prefer to find these answers myself to why we were created and how we came about. That's my jouney to figure out. :)

Now, why are you so sure there is a heaven or a hell?


im not certain on the existence or the lackthereof of either heaven or hell.....my question was directed at those who claimed differently

[yoda]

If there's a heaven, I strongly believe I will be there.

[beachguy in thongs]

My definition of Heaven and Hell:

Well, sort of...

There was a time when all was normal. Then, when you can smell the roses, a piece of machinery introduces evil.

To me, hell is on Earth, but, not everyone sees it.

[tootsie roll]

Heaven or Hell?
Wow. Well, I grew up in a religion that does not believe in hell so I've always focused on Heaven.
There may be a sort of hell where a gacy or dahmer or rameriz may go but I dunno.:wtf:
All I do know is when I die, I want to go to where ever my pets have gone. The rainbow bridge of course!:hippy:

[EbelEyes]

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.

N,N-DMT to be exact. Present in almost every ecosystem on our planet.

"[The feeling of doing DMT] is as though one had been struck by noetic lightning. The ordinary world is almost instantaneously replaced, not only with a hallucination, but a hallucination whose alien character is its utter alienness. Nothing in this world can prepare one for the impressions that fill your mind when you enter the DMT sensorium."
-- Terence McKenna

[MadSativa]

But since it not here, these are my thoughts on the subject. And since they can be better illestrated through the words of BIG here it is

YouTube - The Notorious B.I.G. - Suicidal Thoughts (album version) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zad9f3eb0uM)

[Gundari]

In acceptance with the fact that I don't accept jesus christ as my savior? (I alone am responsible for my actions, not some cosmic jewish zombie that wants me to symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood and telepathically tell him I accept him as my master so he can remove some evil force present in my soul because some rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat some fruit.)

But based upon the way I live my life and the actions I take...yes I believe that I should be allowed into heaven. I am a good person. I don't judge people unless they give me a reason to do so, and I believe we are all equal, etc etc.

[twoguysupnorth]

Who really knows if either of these places really exist! It's a belief. Only one way to find out. And tell you what, I'm not ready to find the truth in of it. Sooooo guess I just keep doing what I'm doing, and have fun.

[Rose2Smoke]

You can make this your personal hell or heaven, does it exist? Nah!! The brain is powerful muscle.

[slavetopot]

Heaven and Hell, two biggies of the Christian religion. Not buying any of it, since I never understood why won't God heal amputees? No matter how many people pray. No matter how sincere those people are. No matter how much they believe. No matter how devout and deserving the recipient. Nothing will happen. The legs will not regenerate. Prayer does not restore the severed limbs of amputees. You can electronically search through all the medical journals ever written -- there is no documented case of an amputated leg being restored spontaneously. And we know that God ignores the prayers of amputees through our own observations of the world around us. If God were answering the prayers of amputees to regenerate their lost limbs, we would be seeing amputated legs growing back every day.

[Combine]

if i do i hope ther will be weed ther and kfc

That would be so awesome!

[psteve]

I'm not waiting around for some angel to take me to heaven.
I'm creating it right here.
YOU are the angel. Make your own heaven.

[Mississippi Steve]

Before Jesus, *EVERYBODY* went to hell.

[smokey91]

Your conscience is god, when you sleep you have good dreams that means you have a clean conscience. If you have a bad conscience you have nightmares. Death is permanent sleep, Only YOU know what you did with your life and you have to let it sit on your conscience for eternity, thus creating yourself a hell or a heaven in your own mind.

[melodious fellow]

I am one who doesn't believe in God. That doesn't mean I am Athiest as they are just as close minded.

The irony here is overwhelming.

[melodious fellow]

I do not believe of this "hell" I hear of

And I definitely believe in a God(s?)

I have not concluded as to acceptance of a heaven as of yet but I guess I would be down. :rastasmoke: