WHITE WIDOW & K2 IN THE SHED

[rottenfork]

Well its been a few months since my last harvest of K2 and they were spot on. i had 2 k2 seeds left and i got 10 White widow seeds from the dam.
I germinated them last week 5 white widow and 1 of the k2 seeds popped i have transferred them to pots and they have broke soil into 6 nice little seedlings.
Ive got a 400w MH system over them soil is peat moss with a mix of perlite an vermaculite ratio 1/4 parts perl +verm to3/4 peat.
ive been using superthrive since germination.
The rest of the seeds havent germinated but im not too bothered im bound to get a few females too clone in a few weeks. the shed is lined one half with mylar the other half is shelving which im going to block off and use for flowering when the time comes.
As far as nutes are concerned im using two only Bio-grow for veg and Bio-bloom for flower ive used them before and always got good results so why start messing around with something that works?
Ill get a few pics up of the set up and seedlings when they grow a bit more and theres something to see C YA LATER:thumbsup:

[rottenfork]

Think imay have got my seeds mixed up! 2 of them have the same rounder leaves and are growing quicker than the other four whose leaves are pointier and more detailed.So i seem to have 2 K2 plants and 4 white widow. Lets hope theres afew girls in amongst them!!!!

[tokr2153]

cant wait to see those pictures sounds good to me

[rottenfork]

week and a half into veg , i gave 4 of them a 1\4 dose of bio-grow yesterday the look strong enough to handle it. The other two are having trouble getting started they are tiny i hope they pick up ill just keep an eye on them. Ill get some pics up after the weekend and you can tell me what you think!

[rottenfork]

ok so i took a few pics of the grow space and the plants, the space is narrow but roomy 1m deep x 6m wide 3m high. im on light schedule 18/6 fan is on intermittently throughout day temps are 28 degrees during day and they drop to around 9 at night its winter over here. I might put a heater on timer during the night if it gets colder. 4 of the plants are coming along nicely and have just had there full dose of nutes every 2 waterings , the smaller less developed ones are still on water only but they are starting to liven up......
Well here a few pics hope you like.......?

[rottenfork]

more pics

[Shovelhandle]

Nice set-up, RF. I'm sure your grow will be a winner.

Shov

[rottenfork]

cheers mate lets hope so!

[rottenfork]

first alarm today- three of them are looking droopy i havent over watered, every second day so far i think it might be getting too cold temps at 28 when the fan is off but when its on i watched them drop to 20 after around 15 mins. as i said earlier its winter and we are dropping to freezing over night .... So ive put a small heater out there on a timer 1 hour on 1 hour off i gave them a feed aswell. So all i can do now is wait and see..........!!!!

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

It does sound like it is getting to cold, the best way that I have seen to keep the temp up is to get one of those liquid filled radiator type space heaters and set it to I guess 22C not sure I am not familiar with celcius. These heaters are very efficiant meaning very low wattage and produce a lower heat that won't shock or burn your plants and are alot less of a fire hazard.

Another way is to go to a 24/0 light cycle for your veg that way your light keeps the room warm until you go to flower. ( I use a 24/0 cycle in my grow during veg.)

LOL and looking good so far.

[rottenfork]

Jerry i had a heater lying around and i put it in last night, they still looked the same this morning, checked them again this evening and they look much better the leaves have raised themselves back up towards the light temps are holding between 27c - 29c during the day and only dropped to 19c last night. So the heater stays, more elec costs but what the f**k, as long as the babies are happy!!!!!!!

[stinkyattic]

Just a hint, get some shipping pallets and raise the pots up off the ground if they aren't already. Contact with cold ground will make your plants act weird- you will see slowed water use, lockouts, and symptoms similar to overwatering.

I had to keep my mothers in a cold basement for a couple months last winter and set the heater so air circulated UNDER the pallets and kept the soil reasonably warm. The space was already set up and had previously hosted a grow, and the pallets were already there. Apparently the previous occupants had discovered that trick themselves!

[scagster]

Haha stinky, that reminds me of survival training back in boy scouts....making bedding out of leaves and such to keep yourself off of the cold ground while lost in the wilderness. :stoned: Oh my mind is wandering today.

[rottenfork]

Yeah have them off the ground, they seem to have recovered must have been the cold weather thats the first hurdle negotiated..........!!!!!!!!

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Glad to here they recovered!!!

[rottenfork]

Still worried they dont look too happy some of them are still drooping and the lower leaves are turning slightly yellow cant figure it out temps are good and the soil ph is fine, dont understand it ?????????

[rottenfork]

ok so i havent posted for a while, been busy , but im glad to say that i now have a miniature forest growing in my shed!!!
They are 10 weeks into veg now, all of which have been LSTed around the edges of the pots and there is a lovely little canopy of fresh shoots reaching for the light.
All of which will turn into juicy colas.
Im going to veg for 2 more weeks before I switch to 12/12 and pop in the HPS.
I will put up some pics tomorrow cant get my hands on the camera tonight.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[rottenfork]

ok so heres individual pics of each plant and two group photos

[rottenfork]

group photo

[stinkyattic]

They look generally healthy, if slightly underwatered in those earlier pics. Keep up the good work!

[BigWeed]

Those plants are looking good man. Ill be sticking around for this.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[rottenfork]

i need help the plants are now 3 weeks into flower, i have 4 females got rid of the 2 males they have stopped growing all except 1 the leaves are folding down and they look in pretty poor shape , one of my timers was on the blink its the one that switchs the heater on during dark period and the thermometer has shown that it has dropped as low as 4c overnight this must be going on for a week or so now! ive changed the timer but the plants dont seem to be recovering im feeding every 2nd watering and watering every 3 days ph is fine could the cold overnight have done this much damage? i need some advice dont want to lose them day time temps are holding 28-30c . take a look for yourself the last pic is the only half healthy one left!!!!

[zebulon]

Be careful whit low temps...and put something under the pots, so the roots don't get too cold....:thumbsup:

[rottenfork]

ok so i think i have them back on track, got a new timer and have night temps holding at 16-18c and day temps 27-30c the plants have perked up and seem to doing well
Lets hope teres no more problems!!!!!

[rottenfork]

Everything seems to be going smoothly now the plants have perked up and are blooming again, theyve come on more in the last two days than in the 7 days previous since i got the temps sorted.
I tied the taller colas down and spread them out, its a fairly even canopy spread over about 1 metre square.
Im half way through week 4 of flowering now, so im lloking forward to some steady improvement.
Ill get some pics up in the next day or two!!

[rottenfork]

Ive transplanted for the final time, i know i know i shouldnt really have because they are well into flower but i was thinking last night, my pots are the smallest ive used for flower
mmmmm maybe i should break out the old reliables and i did.
The old pots were stuffed full of rootage so lets hope they burst out and fill these new ones.
Getting a lot of yellow leaves with red veins and stems?
is this from too many nutes?
Im not too worried at the moment the leaves in question are lower down and the buds are coming along nicely.
Anyway check them out for yourself,
Peace:rasta:

[Shovelhandle]

looking very nice, rf

shv

[boone]

Those plants are looking good man. Ill be sticking around for this.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:
I know what you meen brother.If it is'nt good weed then it's not for me.Hope you have the right stuff like I do at this moment.Im allways looking for the best.Please keep me in mind,as I will you while Im doing my tokeing.Have a good time.Wish I was there.Im in Missouri where you realy have to know the right people.Take care and God be with you.

[dgsgandalf]

one of my timers was on the blink its the one that switchs the heater on during dark period and the thermometer has shown that it has dropped as low as 4c overnight this must be going on for a week or so now!

This is my first time reading your thread. Good lookin buds man!

4' C is pretty dang cold. Since marijuana is approx 80% water, freezing temps cause permanent damage to leaves and stems. Anything below, say, 10' C can cause stress to the plants and slow down the flowering or growth process. Fortunately, it doesn't look like any permanent damage was done.

Good luck, and happy smoking!
Peace!

[BlazedinBA]

looking good RF, i just purchased some ww seeds i hope mine turn out like yours!

[smok3y]

Looking good man

[rottenfork]

Shit i hate the Irish weather, its march and we got a snow fall today one day its 12 degrees outside the next its 6.
Im having to adjust the fan and heater timers daily to try and keep the grow space stabilized, my last grow was in the house and i didnt have this hassle.
Any way every thing looks good except the yellowing of leaves with the red veins and stems is getting more wide spread , anybody got any thoughts on this??????

[rottenfork]

O.K. heres a pic update , were 33 days into flower
everything seems fine , just fed them bio-bloom 5 mls per litre of water
ph is around 6.5
temps at 29c
still getting yellowing of leaves with red veins and stems???

Peace:rasta:

[metalirock]

Lovin those fat buds! :thumbsup:

-not an expert, but i think yellow leaves= N deficiency

[zebulon]

Hey RF....your plants look awesome, beautiful buds :thumbsup:
I heard that some strains get yellow leafs during flowering....

[tha del sound]

probably N deficiency, because it looks like the yellowing is starting at the tips and working its way back towards the node.

Check This Out. Good source for finding out what's wrong with your plants. (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688)

:rastasmoke:

[rottenfork]

Cheers, checked out link think you guys are right looks like n-deficiency to me.
going to give a feed of A Bowers fish blood and bone,
hopefully that will sort them out.
Im expecting the leaves to yellow and die around 2-3 weeks before harvest. Im five weeks into flower tomorrow,
This strain of WW black label usually has a 10 week flower period, PEACE!!

[smok3y]

Buds are looking beutiful dude..

[FireTheft]

lookin' sweet

don't stress about the veins or yellowing.....you're in flowering mode a little yellowing is normal.

veins are signs of an older mature plant

[stinkyattic]

Don't give any Nitrogen now! It's too late in flower. Jsut keep giving a bloom fert, and check that your soil pH is correct.
Re-potting was the best thing you could have done actually. You have no idea how much worse those plants would look if you hadn't; old soil that has peat in it DOES eventually cause pH problems, and putting your plant in fresh soil gives them a new lease on life. The bud development is very good and the plants look only a TINY bit more yellow than you would want... don't stress it... you want some yellowing near harvest.

[rottenfork]

Don't give any Nitrogen now! It's too late in flower. Jsut keep giving a bloom fert, and check that your soil pH is correct.
Re-potting was the best thing you could have done actually. You have no idea how much worse those plants would look if you hadn't; old soil that has peat in it DOES eventually cause pH problems, and putting your plant in fresh soil gives them a new lease on life. The bud development is very good and the plants look only a TINY bit more yellow than you would want... don't stress it... you want some yellowing near harvest.

OOPS! I JUST GAVE THEM SOME FISH BLOOB & BONE
gav them 1/4 ounce mixed with 1/4 litre of water each
is that a little bad or really bad?????
SHIT SHIT SHIT

[stinkyattic]

Do a real heavy watering with tap water at pH 6.8, until a decent amount of water comes out the holes in the bottom of the pot, and then do another watering right away with your bloom fert.
You just want to be really careful giving N in flower, especially late flower, because you will get more foliage you don't really want, and the plant will make a bunch of chlorophyll. It might even make the plant flower longer.
It's not the end of the world though... just a good heavy watering like I said above.

[rottenfork]

On my way to flush now,
thanks stinky oh yeah did you get that plastering done on your ceiling yet lol !!!!

[stinkyattic]

Not yet, I am the biggest procrastinatrix on the planet and still waiting for my tenants to buy a house and move out so I can move into their apartment, which I renovated when I bought the house so I could rent it out and live in my squalid mud hut upstairs... then I can renovate my mud hut hopefully in time for the economy and housing market to turn around. I figure I have about 6-8 years before that happens, lol... more if the wrong sort makes his way into the White House on the next go-round... :D

[rottenfork]

lol
all flushed an fed,

PEACE

[tha del sound]

hey rotten you should post a super close up of a cola :jointsmile:

[Sjapp]

one of my timers was on the blink its the one that switchs the heater on during dark period and the thermometer has shown that it has dropped as low as 4c overnight this must be going on for a week or so now!

hey how do you control your heater?

i have a digital heater that i have plugged in, but it only starts to run as soon as i hit power, and then there is a thermometer in it or something that shuts it down when it gets to like 75 and starts it back up once it gets below 75.

so the problem is i cant set it up to a timer, because even if i did, i would still have to press power. so how do you do yours because its a pain in the ass to get up before 7 every morning so i can turn it on.

[rottenfork]

hey rotten you should post a super close up of a cola :jointsmile:
Dont know how to use the camera properly!! its on auto focus and im shit with gadgets:rasta: ill see if i can find the manual around and get some pics up for your viewing pleasure!!!:thumbsup:

hey how do you control your heater?

i how do you do yours because its a pain in the ass to get up before 7 every morning so i can turn it on.

I have a normal plug in blow heater that is plugged straight into a normal timer, check out pic below
Ive 4 timers
1for light
1for fan
1 for extractor fan
and one for the heater
You can pick them up from any hardware store;)
good luck

[rottenfork]

O.K. so six a weeks of flower are just up, the buds are starting to fatten up and put some weight on.
The shed is wafting with a sweet aroma of herb, havent watered in nearly a week, since the day i flushed!!
The soil in the pots is still moist so im not going to feed till it dries out a bit, i think:smokin:
ill get some pics up next post, i still havent figured out how to get some super close ups out of the camera, but im working on it.:thumbsup:
C YA !!!!

[Love2Chief]

wow thats a very nice patch of forest you got there!

[rottenfork]

:thumbsup:its been a while since my last post ,im in the eight week of flower now and oh boy are those buds fattening up!!:D
As from the pics you will see that ive added 2 x 250 watt envirolites as side lighting ive never done this before and i cant see it doing any harm?????
theve been in there for a two days now
As i said before this strain of white widow has a 10 week flowering period so its one more feed before i flush and then its H2O all the way.
Trichs are all cmostly clear with some cloudy its hard to tell with my microscope, but i have a jewellers 15x eye piece on the way it should be here mid week so ill be able to time them perfectly any way heres a few pics , what do you think of these babies :rastasmoke::thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

You've got some beauty buds there, Bub! Nice work. I love the harvest part of these grow logs. Yum! <G>

Sho

[rottenfork]

yeah its all those weeks of TLC coming together, to produce loads more weeks of smoking THC he he:D

[SnSstealth]

lookin lovely!!! 10 week WW...is it WW#2 dutchmen? i had a long WW...its a HEAVY hitter, i would harvest at about 60% amber for serious nighttime slam....congrats;)....had some K2 in amsterdam, stable typical dutch....i would definitely water only last few weeks...you want your leaves to yellow towards the end...the plant completes its natural cycle better...harvesting all green plants will give ya that fresh grass taste forever...I like straight water last 2-3 weeks, 20% of leaves yellow...trust, your flavors and terpenes will mature so much nicer...IMHO

:smokebong:
whisekytango

[rottenfork]

SnSstealth, its WW black label cannabis cup winner picked up a few seeds in the dam last year, have 3 ww and 1 k2 well into 9th week of flower now, trichs around 60% milky 40% clear, havent spotted any amber yet but im keeping my eyes peeled

[SnSstealth]

sweet man ;)...i dont really go by days, i harvest by trichs too
WT

[marksgotgreens]

just a quick question, you only use this 'shed' for the plants right?
:jointsmile:

[rottenfork]

just a quick question, you only use this 'shed' for the plants right?
:jointsmile:

Yeah my shed is split into two sections a 3m x 3m section for tools and stuff and a 1m x 3m section with a hidden door on the side as my grow room, its pretty cool because nobody can notise the extra section from the front.

Any way its 9 weeks exactly since i switched to 12/12 trichs are almst all milky i havent spotted any amber,
The buds have swelled out nicely and the stems are folding back on some of the colas because of the weight.
I might harvest one in two days time and stagger my harvest of the rest over the next 10 days, just as an experiment.

i put my jewellers eye piece on the end of my camera to try and get some trich pics they didnt turn out to well but hey check them out any way

alsi i took one of the smaller buds off one plant today im going to dry it out over the next few days and smoke it at the weekend as a tester:jointsmile:
Catch you later

[Shovelhandle]

I've gone through the temperatuer control problems with the same result (stunted growth). Looks like that's all behind you now!

NICE!

Shvl

[smok3y]

Buds have gone nice n frosty and have nicely fattend up dude.. :thumbsup:

[marksgotgreens]

Yeah my shed is split into two sections a 3m x 3m section for tools and stuff and a 1m x 3m section with a hidden door on the side as my grow room, its pretty cool because nobody can notise the extra section from the front.

Any way its 9 weeks exactly since i switched to 12/12 trichs are almst all milky i havent spotted any amber,
The buds have swelled out nicely and the stems are folding back on some of the colas because of the weight.
I might harvest one in two days time and stagger my harvest of the rest over the next 10 days, just as an experiment.

i put my jewellers eye piece on the end of my camera to try and get some trich pics they didnt turn out to well but hey check them out any way

alsi i took one of the smaller buds off one plant today im going to dry it out over the next few days and smoke it at the weekend as a tester:jointsmile:
Catch you later


nice! perfect setup it sounds like! i envy you;)
damn those buds def look about ready i would say 5 to 6 more days?

arent some trichs already amber?