View Full Version : Simplistic, yet great hydro system.
DurbanStone
11-17-2007, 02:38 AM
Can you please suggest one? I want to try hydro, even aeroponics, but I'd rather get a feel for hydro before dabbling into that sort of thing. What is a simple hydro system that will teach you what you need to know? 1000watt light, 4x4 grow space. SOG most likely.
Opie Yutts
11-17-2007, 06:41 AM
Yes, I say it at least once a day. Emily's Garden. Run it through a search engine, then buy it for $85 or something, or build it for $35. This system is incredibly simple, and produces amazing results with little effort. Absolutely f-ing great for beginners. I think you could fit two in a space like that and do sog, which I highly recommend. Even better do Scrog while your at it. Of course for sog you will need two lights not one. Probably two 400 watters, one MH, one HPS.
Doc 007
11-17-2007, 03:41 PM
Emily's Garden works great.
Amazon for 79.95 and they ship it free.
Comes with everything but seeds and lights.
Amazon.com: Hydrofarm EMSYST Emily's Garden System: Home & Garden (http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-EMSYST-Emilys-Garden-System/dp/B000053F9E/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1195314032&sr=8-1)
the image reaper
11-17-2007, 03:46 PM
here's how to build a AquaFarm for just a few bucks apiece:
AquaFarm (http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/aquafarm.asp)
and, buckets, baskets and lids here: Discount Hydroponics - Grow Containers & Pots (http://www.discount-hydro.com/dept.php?navid=48)
hope that helps .. :jointsmile:
the image reaper
11-17-2007, 04:03 PM
Can you please suggest one? I want to try hydro, even aeroponics, but I'd rather get a feel for hydro before dabbling into that sort of thing. What is a simple hydro system that will teach you what you need to know? 1000watt light, 4x4 grow space. SOG most likely.
1000 watts is a bit of overkill for that small of a space (400-600) ... you CAN put too much light to them and regret it (I found out the hard way, and bleached some younguns pure-white) :wtf:
DurbanStone
11-19-2007, 11:38 PM
Yes, I say it at least once a day. Emily's Garden. Run it through a search engine, then buy it for $85 or something, or build it for $35. This system is incredibly simple, and produces amazing results with little effort. Absolutely f-ing great for beginners. I think you could fit two in a space like that and do sog, which I highly recommend. Even better do Scrog while your at it. Of course for sog you will need two lights not one. Probably two 400 watters, one MH, one HPS.
Pros and cons? I just want to get one light.
PharmaCan
11-20-2007, 02:51 AM
DS - I think what Opie is suggesting is that you have a MH bulb for vegging and an HPS for flower. If you get a digital or switchable ballast, you can use either bulb with the same ballast.
I use 1,000 watts per 4'x4' area and it works great! :thumbsup:
PC :smokin:
pastetea
11-20-2007, 03:29 AM
Hmm, Emilys garden System looks preety good but would you be able to fit six plants in there? Or would you have to transplant to bigger containers?
DurbanStone
11-20-2007, 03:54 AM
Hmm, Emilys garden System looks preety good but would you be able to fit six plants in there? Or would you have to transplant to bigger containers?
I wonder this as well, can 6 bigger plants roots fit in this? Also, a switchable ballast is a great idea. That way I would only need a mother room, and a flower room.
dejayou30
11-20-2007, 04:04 AM
You can build an Ebb and Flow system in like 15 minutes with about $25 (not including a pump).
I used an Emily's Garden before and the plants will be a bit crowded, unless you are growing shorties. The tray is 24 in x 16 in and it only holds a total of 2 gal of nutes. I wrote a thread on how to build a bubbler which is nearly identical to Emily's Garden but you can choose the number of net pots and it hold approx 5-6 gal of nute solution.. in other words it is more forgiving since there is more solution.
BUILD YOUR OWN BUBBLER LINK (http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/139724-building-rubbermaid-hydro-bubbler-unit-cheap-effective.html)
In the thread above I have 6 net pots, but I only used 4 max, and the 2 empty spots I left in the middle, filled with hydroton to prevent light into the res. It make checking and adjusting the solution a breeze - just lift out a pot, set it on top of the other middle one, adjust and replace.
hydrocannabis
11-20-2007, 06:03 AM
I would go with Deep Water Culture. or short way to say it is DWC.
and this is just about how it works.as I was told and it has worked this way for me good.
so the plants will roots hang down in the water. and the air bubbles comming UP from the airstones will give the roots oxygen thus makeing the plant grow. U will put the 2-10 air stones in the bottem of UR water bucket.
eze wat is to do it juss like in the first pic.
Opie Yutts
11-20-2007, 09:58 AM
If you are interested in seeing an Emily's Garden grow in progress, I'm doing a temporary DWC while I'm doing a grow room remodel. You can even see one I made myself.
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/140716-lsttt-low-stress-twisty-tie-training.html
I've not had a problem with them being too crowded, but I scrog. I actually grow 8 now in the same space I used to grow 6 with the Emily's Garden.
PharmaCan
11-20-2007, 04:55 PM
You might want to consider coco. Coco is considered a hydroponic medium and uses hydro nutes and hydro techniques, but you don't have all the hydro paraphernalia to deal with.
PC :smokin:
herbie the love bud
11-20-2007, 05:32 PM
I use a variation of the Emily system. It was made for me by HIDHut.com. However I only use it as a veg kit, for which it is perfect because when they become crowded they get switched to individual 5 gal buckets.
If you are interested in seeing an Emily's Garden grow in progress, I'm doing a temporary DWC while I'm doing a grow room remodel. You can even see one I made myself.
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/140716-lsttt-low-stress-twisty-tie-training.html
I've not had a problem with them being too crowded, but I scrog. I actually grow 8 now in the same space I used to grow 6 with the Emily's Garden.
A little bondage with the Emily... well, that sounds like something fun that I just might have to try soon
stinkyattic
11-20-2007, 07:15 PM
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/131118-stinkys-crash-course-noob-hydro-welcome-darkside.html
That's the one I'm running now, totally DIY, and working well so far. It's neat in that you can move the plants around in your SOG as they grow at different rates due to running multiple strains, as I do, or because of differences in light intensity in different spots. And it can be TOTALLY broken down in minutes and stuffed into the trunk of a car. Bonus.
Treetops
11-20-2007, 07:46 PM
A pic of one of my little Daddys Girls....Middle pic shows all the bubbles...I cut the outside edge off the smallest round air stone to fit in the bottom of the container....melted a hole in the side for the air hose to attach....Works like a charm...
Treetops
:thumbsup:
stinkyattic
11-20-2007, 08:00 PM
Treetops, that is super cool.
Wait until you get those Daddys Girls flowering. I was shocked at how grapefruity they smell. OMG. I can't wait to try out that strain!!!
Opie Yutts
11-20-2007, 08:53 PM
Treetops, very inventive. Cool air stone.
I would pull back that light a little for the first week or two.
Treetops
11-20-2007, 09:01 PM
Thanks Stinky...I cant wait either...Will make a nice addition to my gallery...She is 11 days old today :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Treetops
11-20-2007, 09:04 PM
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Peace,
Treetops
Opie Yutts
11-20-2007, 09:05 PM
I wonder this as well, can 6 bigger plants roots fit in this? Also, a switchable ballast is a great idea. That way I would only need a mother room, and a flower room.
The roots of 6 plants fit just fine in an Emily's garden. I have used it many times, vegging for 2 months then budding for 2 months. The roots get tangled toward the end, but that doesn't matter unless you like taking your plants out alot. If you take them out often they might not get tangled anyway, and you could cut them apart if you needed to. It happens in many systems, no biggie.
And you cannot do sog or scrog (which I highly recommend) with one light. With both styles, you have separated veg and bloom areas, with one light in each, hopefully MH for veg and HPS for bloom.
Paht_Hed
11-20-2007, 09:23 PM
One thing you have to realize is that your plants size is going to be limited to the rootball size. Go with a 5 gallon bucket to get maximum results hell you can even go get a 25-30 toy bucket from walmart, the ones with the rope handle, cut some styrofoam to fit the top, cut a hole in the styrofoam and put your net pot in there. I saw some guy grow a 32 oz plant using that setup. Take a look at my log (not updating it anymore) But it shows an easy DWC setup, a bucket a net pot and some tape. After that all you need is an airstone and a pump. I upgraded to solid black buckets recently b/c they are better than just black duct tape.
Opie Yutts
11-20-2007, 09:52 PM
Treetops, I'm just saying, careful, yesterday I checked a couple of my CFLs with a laser thermometer, and they had spots that were 145 degrees. I wouldn't want something that temp, that close to a struggling seed.
Then again, if aint broke don't fix it. Nice healthy-looking root mass.
Opie Yutts
11-20-2007, 10:19 PM
Go with a 5 gallon bucket to get maximum results hell you can even go get a 25-30 toy bucket...
There's no way you need 25 or 30 gallons for one plant. Sure the bigger the better, but there's a point where it gets a little ridiculous. Right now, using an Emily's Garden and a DIY Emily's Garden, I'm growing 9 plants in 3 gallons, or 6 plants in 2 gallons, whichever sounds the coolest. I have to add nutes every 4 days, at which point they are getting close to running dry. The good part about that is it's a complete reservoir change 7 times each month instead of 1. I've grown big beautiful crops using this method.
DurbanStone
11-21-2007, 02:23 AM
The roots of 6 plants fit just fine in an Emily's garden. I have used it many times, vegging for 2 months then budding for 2 months. The roots get tangled toward the end, but that doesn't matter unless you like taking your plants out alot. If you take them out often they might not get tangled anyway, and you could cut them apart if you needed to. It happens in many systems, no biggie.
And you cannot do sog or scrog (which I highly recommend) with one light. With both styles, you have separated veg and bloom areas, with one light in each, hopefully MH for veg and HPS for bloom.
I was thinking about getting a conversion ballast, and using a little room to clone, then right into vege?
Opie Yutts
11-21-2007, 03:47 AM
With a conversion ballast you will be harvesting half as often than as in a sog or scrog set up, which is fine, but it's also less weed. If you aren't going to sog or scrog then all you would need is a combo mother/clone area and a separate grow area. Take a clone from your mother plant, put it in your system, when it's time to bloom, switch your ballast from MH to HPS. 2 or 3 weeks before harvest get some cuttings from your mother and start them in the cloner so that they will be ready to go into your system as soon as harvest clean up is done. Keep in mind your HPS will be on 12 hours per day and mothers and clones will have 18 per day, and they can't interfere with each others' light schedule.
Paht_Hed
11-21-2007, 04:11 AM
There's no way you need 25 or 30 gallons for one plant. Sure the bigger the better, but there's a point where it gets a little ridiculous. Right now, using an Emily's Garden and a DIY Emily's Garden, I'm growing 9 plants in 3 gallons, or 6 plants in 2 gallons, whichever sounds the coolest. I have to add nutes every 4 days, at which point they are getting close to running dry. The good part about that is it's a complete reservoir change 7 times each month instead of 1. I've grown big beautiful crops using this method.
I ran a 5 gallon bucket DWC system for a single plant, the rootball took up the whole bucket within 6 weeks from a seed. I am sure given enough lumens I could easily fill a 25 gallon bucket with roots by the time flowering was done and that would make for a huge plant.
Treetops
11-21-2007, 04:45 AM
Opie, Thanks for the advice.....it was 80-81ish at dirt level...I raised them a little..best to safe than sorry with these "kids"..On the root mass, gotta be all the bubbles from that stone as the other one just has an ordinary air stone....less bubbles...
Opie Yutts
11-21-2007, 04:58 AM
I keep telling people oxygen to the roots is the key. I guess you helped prove it Treetops.
Opie Yutts
11-21-2007, 05:10 AM
I ran a 5 gallon bucket DWC system for a single plant, the rootball took up the whole bucket within 6 weeks from a seed. I am sure given enough lumens I could easily fill a 25 gallon bucket with roots by the time flowering was done and that would make for a huge plant.
The whole idea of hydroponics is to grow bigger plants with smaller root masses.
Oh well, I guess this grow is impossible as well, since there's no way that 3 plants could grow in less than a quart of nutrients:
the image reaper
11-21-2007, 03:50 PM
Treetops, that is super cool.
Wait until you get those Daddys Girls flowering. I was shocked at how grapefruity they smell. OMG. I can't wait to try out that strain!!!
hee hee hee :weedpoke:
Earthy Dank
11-21-2007, 06:18 PM
The whole idea of hydroponics is to grow bigger plants with smaller root masses.
Oh well, I guess this grow is impossible as well, since there's no way that 3 plants could grow in less than a quart of nutrients:
Really i thought the point of hydroponics was to provide more Oxygen, Water, and nutrients to increase photosysthesis Thereby increasing growth and vigor. When I do hydro i usually give them more room for the roots.
DurbanStone
11-21-2007, 08:34 PM
hmm, I am still not decided.
One thing is fact, I will be living in an apt for months, so I can't build any rooms, they have to be temperary.
PharmaCan
11-21-2007, 09:10 PM
hmm, I am still not decided.
One thing is fact, I will be living in an apt for months, so I can't build any rooms, they have to be temperary.
Check out hydro huts. They make great temporary rooms. :thumbsup:
PC :smokin:
Check out hydro huts. They make great temporary rooms. :thumbsup:
PC :smokin:
I have a Hydro Hut Mini that is 39 in x 39 in x 6.5 feet tall and it works very nicely for my personal consumption needs. It is well made and sturdy.
My advice is to buy one locally if you can, and check that all the parts are there before leaving the store... Either that or if you order it have the store owner check and verify all of the parts are in the box...
HERE'S WHY:
When I bought mine, it was missing 2 pieces and I had to drive it back to Green Coast Hydro and get the missing stuff. They were super cool about it and said that every once in a while that happens. If I would have checked prior to leaving the store it would have saved me an hour of driving and 10 bucks in gas.
MVP :jointsmile:
Opie Yutts
11-21-2007, 10:03 PM
Really i thought the point of hydroponics was to provide more Oxygen, Water, and nutrients to increase photosysthesis Thereby increasing growth and vigor. When I do hydro i usually give them more room for the roots.
Oh I know, hydro is so mysterious isn't it. So many options on the way to big beautiful buds.
Opie Yutts
11-21-2007, 10:13 PM
hmm, I am still not decided.
One thing is fact, I will be living in an apt for months, so I can't build any rooms, they have to be temperary.
Hmmmm, let's see. Oh I know! An Emily's Garden-type set up would be perfect for you! Hydro huts are a pretty awesome idea, but your closet is already there and it's free. It might even have an electrical outlet in it, but if not, it's real easy to cut through the drywall to get to the wiring from an outlet from an adjoining room, and mount an outlet for the closet on the same stud. Or if it's got a light on the ceiling you can get to some wiring that way. Or you can get a stud finder that shows where wiring is also. Or maybe I'm just going on and on, and will never, ever shut up...
Hell yeah, closets work great! I have a Flower closet (48 in x 24 in x 6.5 ft tall), a Veg closet (24 in x 24 in x 5 ft tall), and a Hydro Hut for my moms and clones. Soon I'll be switching the Flower to the Hut, Moms and clones to the small closet, Vegging to the big closet. And 85% of all the plants are hydro, only Moms are in dirt.
The only real pain with closets IMO is that my door openings are smaller than the actual grow space and its difficult to get stuff in and out of there and reach the back when inspecting plants. A pain yes, but it doesn't keep me from growing in them!
MVP :jointsmile:
Opie Yutts
11-21-2007, 11:09 PM
"...i thought the point of hydroponics was to provide more Oxygen, Water, and nutrients to increase photosysthesis Thereby increasing growth and vigor..."
OK, here's the deal for Paht Hed, Earthy Dank, and any other nonbeliever. Hydro has many advantages over dirt. There is not any one point of hydro, there are a plethora. The whole point of hydro for one person might be to provide more oxygen and nutrients in an attempt to increase growth and vigor. That is certainly one of my points, but also I do it because it's fun and interesting, I can do it all year, and it can produce an increased yield in a very small space. The reason for this last one is because I am supplying oxygen and nutrients directly to the roots, therefore they do not have to search for it, therefore they do not need to grow very big root masses in order produce big, healthy plants, therefore I can grow a whole bunch of tomatoes in a very small footprint.
I'm not trying to win an argument here or have the last word. I just want beginners and people like DurbanStone to know the whole truth so that they can make informed and proper decisions. Not everybody has the space for a 5 gallon bucket for each plant (myself included), and you certainly don't need that to produce da danknes, chronic, the shit, you know, tomatoes. If you've got the room, then by all means, have a 50 gallon drum for each plant. You could veg that for a year and fill up the drum with roots, if that's the kind of thing you want to do, and more power to you.
About the space thing:
Growing plants hydroponically helps gardeners and farmers grow more food more rapidly in smaller areas (greenhouses, living rooms, classrooms, and rooftops, for instance) and to produce food in parts of the world where space, good soil, and/or water are limited.
Welcome to KidsGardening! Garden Resources, Gardening for Families, Teacher's Garden and Shopping for Gardening (http://www.kidsgardening.com/HYDROPONICSGUIDE/hydro1-1-intro.asp)
In hydroponics, plant spacing can be intensive, allowing you to grow more plants in a given space than soil grown produce.
Lesson 1-1 (http://www.hydroponicsonline.com/lessons/Introduction/lesson1-1intro.htm)
The plant does not have to search in the soil for the nutrients that it requires. Those nutrients are being delivered to the plant several times per day. The hydroponic plant requires very little energy to find and break down food. The plant then uses this saved energy to grow faster and to produce more fruit.
Hydroponic gardening for beginners - Greentrees Hydroponics (http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/hydroponic_gardening_for_beginners.asp)
More intense cropping technique requires less space.
Benefits of hydroponic food production (http://www.hydroponics.com/hydroponics/benefitsofood.html)
SUMMARY: Space/Room = one hydroponics benefit.
DurbanStone
11-21-2007, 11:48 PM
Closet won't work, we need somewhere to put our clothes :) and with the hut, I can put the charcoal filter and fans in the hut without cutting things. I was thinking about getting the one that's 4.5 feet long and 2.5 feet wide, 6 .5 feet tall. I still want something continuous, and I dont want another grow room, so I was thinking about a SOG grow, root them in whatever (coconut or rockwool) then veg for a week or two, then right onto budding. I just need to figure out what light.
DurbanStone
11-21-2007, 11:52 PM
I want to produce about 3/4lbs a month with whatever set up I choose.
DurbanStone
11-21-2007, 11:54 PM
oh, can you take the hydro hut apart after?
DurbanStone
11-22-2007, 12:04 AM
two more questions.
With a conversion ballast, is there any such thing as a smaller MH to HPS? like a 250watt veger and a 600 watt flowerer or something?
One more :)...
What if I revegged after a flower? Would that save the extra room need? Just a thought.
klondike_bar
11-22-2007, 01:52 AM
pretty sure the pc case grows are more beneficial to small plants in the first month of veg, ntil heres no room left
what is the best form of hydroponics? Ive been looking at DWC and it appears the simplest
Paht_Hed
11-22-2007, 06:33 AM
No one is saying that you can't grow a large number of plants in a small amount of root space, I am saying that the bigger the rootball the bigger the plant is going to be. Once your rootball has grown completely to fill your intended space the plant will stunt its growth b/c for one, it doesnt have the root system to support being any bigger. Bigger rootball = bigger plant, thats all I am saying.
Opie Yutts
11-22-2007, 06:40 AM
I'm pretty sure they hydro huts come apart about as easy as they go together.
As far as I know, and I'm pretty sure this is the case, there are no switchable ballasts that run two different wattages. Please be sure to let me know if I am wrong here.
Yes, you can reveg after flowering. I've done it many times and so have many other people. Theoretically, you could have no mothers or clones, and of course that would save a lot of room as well as the other costs to keep them, such as your time and the cost of lighting. If you do real well and get 4 oz per plant, you would need 6 plants in a sog set up, or 12 in a regular set up, in order to get you the 12 oz per month you desire. I'll assume sog, since that's what you keep talking about. As soon as harvest is done, you move your revegged plants into the flowering section, and you put your recently harvested plants, which have been properly prepared for revegging, back into the veg section. Assuming you are growing the proper strain for this style, within 2 or 3 weeks the ladies will start showing some new growth, then hopefully with the 6 weeks left they will veg enough to give you what you want in flowering.
This can be done and I would really like to see a tutorial or guide about it. If you go this route, please post your comments and photos for all to learn from. I don't every remember seeing a grow log or anything about this, and I'm kinda surprised. I think it could really work. In theory, you can reveg most weed plants forever. There is a bunch of debate about this naturally, but I don't see why it couldn't work for at least 15 harvests. The reason I chose that number is because that pops into my head as the greatest amount of successful reveggings I've ever seen documented, and if I remember right, the guy just had to stop the experiment for some reason.
I say, hell yeah! Go for it! I want to see a CPSG, or cloneless perpetual sog grow. Who's with me?
I hope I'm not out of line here, but you keep talking about doing sog, and I'm not convinced that you know completely what that entails. If I am wrong please forgive me, but that's the vibe I'm picking up on. Again, you cannot do a sog grow with only one light. In sog you have one light for vegging and one light for blooming (or more of course), and they are going on at the same time, and they have different schedules which cannot interfere with each other. You have a section for vegging and a section for budding and usually the budding section is the completely light-proof one, because cloning, mothering and vegging can all be done on the same lighting schedule, but it's a different schedule then for vegging. Since you are vegging and budding simultaneously, you get to harvest every 2 months instead of every 4 (on average).
Also you talk of 600W of light, buy say you can't cut any holes. Have you thought about where the heat from this and the other lights and equipment are going to go? If this is in a bedroom with the door shut, it aint going to work unless you also use a nice big air conditioner. Your plants will die from heat stroke. You probably know that you should keep your grow 80 degrees or below, but it aint happening unless you vent that out of the room somewhere, and I'm thinking out of the building, which means a hole. Perhaps you could do what I did and make a hole in the building and put a nice professional vent covering over it, and your landlord might not ever notice the difference. I probably wouldn't bet on it though. Also you can help lower your grow area temps by getting a digital ballast, but I digress.
I hope that I answered you questions and didn't confuse you. Just trying to help.
oh, can you take the hydro hut apart after?
Yeah, it assembles and disassembles pretty easily. The parts are numbered and instructions, although kinda crude, are included.
The first time you put it together plan 30 minutes prep (read directions, lay out parts, etc.) and 30 minutes assembly unless you are high. In that case you might need 45 minutes prep time and 60 minutes assembly. This from first hand experience. Really, no shit.
After the first time it will take you probably 15 minutes total to put this baby together....
Opie Yutts
11-22-2007, 06:52 AM
PS.
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/137345-flowering-2-master-kush-6.html
Just in case you want to look at the 6th page of Weedhounds current grow, where we talk more about revegging, and she has a before and after photo of her girl that she just gone done hacking around on. (Not really hacking, she did good IMO.)
Opie Yutts
11-22-2007, 06:56 AM
...unless you are high. In that case you might need 45 minutes prep time and 60 minutes assembly.
Or for guys that are stoned, and have been hit in the head too many times, 90 and 120.
DurbanStone
11-22-2007, 08:41 PM
ahh I am so confused. I understand SOG. I understand everything, I just don't know what to do.
Opie Yutts
11-24-2007, 04:51 AM
So you're so confused, but you understand everything. Now I'm confused. Look, it don't have to be like this. It's really pretty easy and simple. If you know the concepts, pick which one is likely to work the best for you, modifying and improvising where needed. Figure out some way to get the heat out or go for fluoros. You can do some amazing stuff with them if you know what you're doing, and you don't have to cut any holes in the house.
Opie Yutts
11-24-2007, 04:56 AM
And we're here to help. Just relax and take a deep breath.
You are going to get differences of opinions, that's just the way it has to be. It's up to you to figure out which is best for you. Try to start with something simple and temporary for your first grow and get a feel for it. Don't try for 12 Oz your first time. Trust me, your main set up will benefit greatly from the knowledge you would gain.
Opie Yutts
11-24-2007, 05:01 AM
PS, it's not that 12 Oz is out of reach, far from it. Just have the mindset that you are just trying to learn on the first one, and as a bonus you're going to end up with some weed to smoke. If you don't put a bunch of pressure on yourself, you and your plants will love and reward you for it.
DurbanStone
11-24-2007, 10:19 AM
I am planning on buying a hydrohut, that way I wouldn't have to cut any holes. Also, I have grown plants many a time, just not with a large HID indoor, I have tones of experience with floros and small HID's, cloning and whatnot. I am new to hydro and large HID's however.
Big len
11-24-2007, 02:36 PM
I use a 10 pot baby bloomer ebb and flow 6 gal resivior it does a good job once males are taken out there is plenty of room for the girls, easy to maintain and change the nutes. I believe gen hydroponics makes it.
the image reaper
11-24-2007, 03:36 PM
And we're here to help. Just relax and take a deep breath.
You are going to get differences of opinions, that's just the way it has to be. It's up to you to figure out which is best for you. Try to start with something simple and temporary for your first grow and get a feel for it. Don't try for 12 Oz your first time. Trust me, your main set up will benefit greatly from the knowledge you would gain.
that's some of the best advice I've ever read in here, Opie knows his stuff, pay close attention :thumbsup:
Opie Yutts
11-24-2007, 07:50 PM
Also, I have grown plants many a time, just not with a large HID indoor, I have tones of experience with floros and small HID's, cloning and whatnot. I am new to hydro and large HID's however.
Sorry Durban, I hope I didn't offend you.
I still recommend starting small and simple for your first hydro grow.
Opie Yutts
11-24-2007, 07:52 PM
Durban, are those your real guns in the AV or stunt guns? It almost makes me wish I hadn't stopped lifting. Nice. I'm not gay, but if i were...
DurbanStone
11-26-2007, 03:20 AM
It's me. I'm 20, been lifting for 2 years.
Bulster
11-27-2007, 06:06 AM
Hey Durban, are you familiar with the Hempy Bucket?
I'm no expert but as far as I know it's hands down the easiest way to do hydro... no pumps, no hoses, no nothing...just a bucket. I have a few plants going in it that I started a week ago and they're doing great!
Do a google search or if you can't find it post a reply and I'll find you some links.
There are no size restrictions or any other restrictions for that matter on a hempy bucket!
DurbanStone
11-28-2007, 03:44 AM
Hey Durban, are you familiar with the Hempy Bucket?
I'm no expert but as far as I know it's hands down the easiest way to do hydro... no pumps, no hoses, no nothing...just a bucket. I have a few plants going in it that I started a week ago and they're doing great!
Do a google search or if you can't find it post a reply and I'll find you some links.
There are no size restrictions or any other restrictions for that matter on a hempy bucket!
Why thank you good sir :)
Looks like I'm doing the hempy bucket!
I've seen pics and these bucks were a couple galons and the plants were MASSIVE. It's simple, some verm, perl and a few bucks, all I need to do now is get some lights and nutes and I'm ready to grow, thanks everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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