First grow, berate me.

[Johnaldinho]

Growing a lowryder just to learn...
125w envirolite, DWC, IONIC grow soloutions..

Anyway, about 5 weeks into the grow... it's looking pretty poor.
What do the experts think?

http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/100_0316.jpg

[spongebobsmokepants]

berate you? It smells like a SKUNK in here! Is that you John?:)
looking good man keep it up.

[specs]

Not bad, your PPM might be off- do you have a meter? If not I would slowly build up to the max of the nute recommendation in 1/4 increments. Also maybe start lsting if you want a low bushy plant.

Good Growing
Bless
specs:rastasmoke:

[gainesvillegreen]

Soil? What size container is holding the soil (or other media)?

[klondike_bar]

it may seem short, but i guarentee its got more foliage than many plants 3X its height!

clearly loves the lighting

[Johnaldinho]

The PPM/EC whatever you want to call it probably is off, because thats the one peice of kit i don't have. Will it massively effect yeild?

To answer gaines question: I'm using Deep water culture, no soil. Plant in rockwool, in claypebbles in a small pot.... suspended in a reservoir of nutrient soloution, pump blowing air through the water 24/7 near the roots.

My reservoir is see-though, so had to cover it in bin bag to stop the roots getting light.

Better response than I expected from you guys, I thought my plant was looking really unhealthy, maybe im paranoid.

[specs]

The PPM/EC whatever you want to call it probably is off, because thats the one peice of kit i don't have. Will it massively effect yeild?


Yes it will, you could kill plants if you aren't careful. Check your roots also, but I think you have a ppm problem, like I suggested just scale down your feed and build up slowly.

Still looks fine though, I murdered a couple plants with my first couple of DWC attempts.

Keep it up just pay attention as those lower leaves look like they are changing color.

Bless
specs:rastasmoke:

[klondike_bar]

yeah. any pics w/o the bulb on? its hard to tell how green/yellow things are under those

[Johnaldinho]

Heres a photo without the light on, tell me what you guys think.

http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/100_0323.jpg

[YaYoKush]

Looking sexy hope for a female!

[whisky]

its doing fine, the small size is due to it being lowryder i guess. since it hasnt shown balls yet and lowryder goes right into flower from seed i guess that should be a female just in her last days before showing pubes and where flowering begins ... ( my amateur guess ).. you might want to get another light in there..somewhere :jointsmile:

[klondike_bar]

looks great. no nut deficiencies or burns, and plenty of foliage. itll grow a foot or more during flowering probly, so dont worry bout heigt

[Johnaldinho]

whats it likely to yield? I'd be happy with 15 grams

[CannabisCarl2134]

Yield is determined on Lights/ing, Nutes, etc.. It looks fine to me, my friend's lowryder is about that size and is only 4 weeks into veg. IMHO I would find a wider space, that looks a little narrow, and you can see the leaves resting against the back of your box. Otherwise it looks great, and hope for female.

I have read, and heard that when doing the 12/12 cycle, for 1 hour have your timer turn on the lights, and there is a better chance it will be Female.

What Nutes are you using?

One last thing, when its time to harvest, the "Wet Buds" Might way a lot, but guaranteed its going to weigh 75% less.

[klondike_bar]

if you want 15g, youll hpefully be in for a nice surprise. assuming you veg it for another 2 weeks, youll probly pull just uner an oz (28g)

[50ul }{4ck3r]

if you want 15g, youll hpefully be in for a nice surprise. assuming you veg it for another 2 weeks, youll probly pull just uner an oz (28g)

klondike It is a autoflower strain....its done when its done

[Gundari]

Not to out right contradict what carls saying, but DO NOT turn your lights on for an hour in the dark period, that stresses and confuses the plant and you usually end up with a hermie. That may not apply in this situation since lowryder is autoflowering and i know nothing about autoflowering plants, but id rather be safe then sorry.

As for berating you, man that looks great for a first grow! Much better then my first grow looked at that age.

Only thing i could suggest (as i know jack crap about hydro growing) is going with a little LSTing so you can get that plant to bend towards the back of that stealth pc box and thereby using your space to its maxium.

Oh yea, if possible mind giving us a shot of the computer case all closed up and stuff? Im toying around with the idea of buildling a stealth computer box to put some clones in or start seedlings in before i move'em over my rubber maid box.

[50ul }{4ck3r]

why are u guys putting lowryder on a dark period....they will bud with 24 hours with the lights on

[klondike_bar]

uhm...that sounds very odd. i believe autoflowers will indicate that they are mature, but require the 12/12 or similar periods. otherwise it wouldnt match up with many natural flowering periods in the wild and would die off without offspring

[50ul }{4ck3r]

lol WRONG....

"ndoors, Lowryder completely eliminates the need to induce flowering by reduction of day-light hours; indeed, it eliminates the need for a timer, period. Yes, it will grow consistently well and finish under 24 hours of light, from sprouting to harvest, in eight weeks. The point is, with Lowryder, there is no need for a change in the light period to induce flowering, nor is it necessary to have separate vegetative and flowering rooms."

[Gundari]

This is why i openly admit when i know nothing about a subject. ^^

[Johnaldinho]

I've used a feminized lowryder seed, i'm pretty sure it is a female, don't see any indication its a hermie.
I've gone for 24/7 lighting because I've read that lowryder doesnt require light cycles.
One of you wanted a picture of the whole case:

http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/100_0300.jpg

I'll post more pics of the plant in a few days.

[specs]

yeah. any pics w/o the bulb on? its hard to tell how green/yellow things are under those

Sorry light had me fooled!


Looking sexy hope for a female!

:thumbsup:

[Johnaldinho]

I came down this morning to find this yellow marking on one of the leaves of my plant
The reservoir containing the soloution was right down to like an inch, almost below the pump sponge thing, i've filled it back up now... whats caused the yellowing? Anything I can do, thanks for your help. Heres a pic of it...

http://gallery.cannabis.com/data/500/medium/100_03291.jpg

[Johnaldinho]

Also want to add/ask...
Like i say, its coming up to the end of week 5/early week six...... and i've changed my nut's from ionic grow, to ionic bloom...... don't suppose I started it too early on bloom? Should I go back to grow?

[specs]

I came down this morning to find this yellow marking on one of the leaves of my plant
The reservoir containing the soloution was right down to like an inch, almost below the pump sponge thing, i've filled it back up now... whats caused the yellowing? Anything I can do, thanks for your help. Heres a pic of it...



I'm sure others will give some more suggestions however, I liked to do a flush before switching over to flower nutes doind DWC. This also allowed me to assess the roots to make sure there is no "sludge" or algae on them which could prevent nute intake. Make sure you pay attention to the water level in DWC as this is the plants main intake of nutes and O2 via the bubbles and will surly hurt them if you allow your water level to get too low.


Hope that helps
Bless
Keep Growin'
specs:rastasmoke:

[Johnaldinho]

Starting week 7 of lowryders short life, it worries me a little there won't be enough time for it to flower a decent yield. Heres my latest photo... how's she doing?

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6857/newbbhb5.jpg

[Johnaldinho]

One more question, could really do with an answer:
My plants got lots of buds that arent getting any light because of how bushy/how many leaves the plant has... do i want to do a bit of trimming so they can get light? If so, look in the picture above and tell me where.

Thanks.

[Johnaldinho]

Uh oh..... now i REALLY need some help.
I just checked the dates of various pictures, and realised my plants only actually just finished week 4, which means its going to continue growing A LOT. (its drinking like a litre a day atm)..... my problem is:
It's going to continue growing, and will eventually touch the light.. and just keep going, it simply wont fit.
I have no where else to grow it, no other lights to give it..... it HAS to stay in the p.c case..... but its already almost touching the lights.

What the hell do i do?

heeelp.

[brad1028]

tie it down with twisty ties or some kind of string. search this site for LST. if you tie it down *hopefully* it will spread out and not be tall but all of the buds will still get light

[macro]

looks like youve got some room, tie it down so it's growing perpendicular to the light, could increase your yield too

[YaYoKush]

Yes LST has no down falls imo id suggest using this method although its late into the flowering stage it shouldnt cause too much stress. if done early you would have ended up with many colas with sticky icky.

[CannabisCarl2134]

Space is too small, more light! LST FTW

[Johnaldinho]

Latest pic

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3443/wambl1.jpg

I have looked into LST, but it's my first grow and I guess I am just overly worried something will go wrong if I stray too far from the beaten path.

[spongebobsmokepants]

LST won't hurt anything. You are just tying down the top and limbs that are getting too tall.
I think you are doing great. Thats a nice hiding spot you have there!
Peace!
:jointsmile:

[Johnaldinho]

New pic

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5493/plantsxo8.jpg

[Johnaldinho]

quick question;
I had a look in my reservoir earlier, huge bunch of white roots :thumbsup:, but one tiny bit of one root looks black. If you took a percentage of the whole root system, the black part would probably account for half of 1% of the whole lot. Am I just being paranoid, or could something be wrong?

[klondike_bar]

see how its falling out of the box? YOU NEED MORE SPACE!

[SantaClawz]

Yeah you need more space, those computer case grows wont even work for lowryder. Not too stealthy either, "Hey why is your computer case glowing like the sun, why do you need those huge cooling fans?"

[Johnaldinho]

I'd read lowryder would only grow between 12 and 16 inches. I guess it's different in DWC.
You say it won't work, but it kinda looks like it is working. (i hope)

[Johnaldinho]

Updated pic of my plant.
She's getting a lot of yellowing on her upper leaves. Is this normal?

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6023/aplantym4.jpg

[klondike_bar]

well considering that the yellowing is ALL ON THE LIT SIDE, you may want to get the bulb out of the case and centered on the plant first of all

[Johnaldinho]

Getting that light out would a lot of hassle, i'm just going to see what happpens. Going for a big ol grow tent on my next grow.

What does it look like i'm gonna yield ;s?

[SantaClawz]

Nothing if you keep burning your leaves.

[CannabisCarl2134]

^^ Ya that thing looks hellas heat stressed, and burnt. Rig up a Box with plenty of room, and use that light, maybe + 1-42w CFL Too.

Keep the lights at least 10 inches or so away from the leaves. maybe 8-9 in your case.

The yellowing. is like stated above, Burnt, or heat stresed. She should be fine when its in a bigger box with the lights off the leaves.

[Johnaldinho]

Got some new pics of the lowryder. She's going ok i think :stoned:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9931/1plantgo7.jpg

[Johnaldinho]

The bud
:jointsmile:

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9628/3plantxe3.jpg

[EXP13]

Looks good.

But you need to cool her down. She's way too hot. That's why she's drinking so much. The hotter it gets the more water the plant will take up.

Do you have a thermometer?

If you can get the temperatures down you may be able to get more than what you expected.

They should be down around 68-70*F right about now.

[Johnaldinho]

She is drinking a lot actually hahaha, impressive call.
I don't have a thermometer, I should probably get one I guess.

[EXP13]

She is drinking a lot actually hahaha, impressive call.
I don't have a thermometer, I should probably get one I guess.

I'm not a hydro cultivator at all but I know heat stress when I see it. When your leaves curl up like that and the tips feel a little rough, that means the plant is too hot and is expending too much water through it's leaves. (water evaporates out of plants) The reason for this is that the roots cannot absorb the water fast enough for the rest of the plant to maintain the moisture level throughout the leaves. Basically it's so hot the water is evaporating out of the leaves before it is being absorbed by the roots. :cool:

All in all though, she doesn't look bad. Easy fix.

Just get a thermometer and you'll be good to go.

NOTE- WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO COOL HER DOWN OR REHYDRATE HER BY SPRAYING THE LEAVES WITH WATER. DOING THIS WILL COMPLICATE THINGS.

[Johnaldinho]

Latest pic of the budding lowryder :jointsmile:
I'd say she has about 10-14 days left before harvest ;)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7141/buddingaf8.jpg

[Johnaldinho]

Harvested today :jointsmile:

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7967/kidi1.jpg

Hope I didnt harvest too late, Lowryder... probably a total of 9 - 10 weeks old
Any predictions on what my yield might be after it drys?

[stinkyattic]

GORGEOUS.
No beration? Berating? lol whatever anyway no need to berate you; you did very well in that tiny little box! Holy cow!

[hydrocannabis]

yah holy crap. this is the best looking grow in a pc case I have ever seen.

[Johnaldinho]

:) thanks

I wish I was better with the digi cam. Take pictures of the buds with more clarity. I'll post again when I figure out how ;)

[deaner]

That was pretty fuckin cool! I wish I'd have had an idea like that when I was livin at home. That woulda been tits! You did an awesome job I'd say concidering the tiny space, but it looks like you got a pretty good yield and I'm sure you will enjoy smoking your own shit. Maybe next grow you could go smaller, a shoebox or something.. A speaker.. Hope you get something bigger soon dude.

[smokenss]

cool grow mate well done :thumbsup: interested in ur yield its looks like a good about 4 a "lowryder" , iv bn thinking about getting "master low" ,any way good luck with what ever u do next.



:smokin:ss

[fUNKYcDOG]

nice, cant believe you grew that out of a old pc box.

[Enemy of Real1ty]

Very Very Nice! I can't wait to start a batch of my own, going to be some mids seeds from a few baggies, but I figure il practice before i buy the real thing. Kudos :jointsmile:

[Atkeni]

Well done, that is pretty damn impressive for a pc grow

hope it smokes well for ya ;)

[Shovelhandle]

WOW, had to see it to believe it.
You did awesome. Beauty buds, man.

Shov

[Johnaldinho]

I'll be back with a weigh in when it's all dry.

[dgsgandalf]

How was the smell? Did you have some kind of an air filter or was it just blowing the regular air out of the box? Also, does anyone know what kind of a high lowrider gives you?
Peace!

[phixion]

im just away to try the lowrider plant next week
and if it turns out anything like that i will be super happy.

i will get pics up when it is up and running and hopefully get some helpfull feedback
:rasta:

[Johnaldinho]

Not air filter, just a scented tub of anti smell stuff next to it.

While i've got people replying to this..
I'm going to grow bigbud next, having succesfully grown lowryder i'm quite confident. Since big bud is not an autoflower I know im going to have to go 20/4 and then 12/12... How long do I want to veg and flower for?

[cwesto]

Theyre GRRRRRRRRRRREAT says Tony the tiger

[Ganj]

you're a piece of shit! you're like gum on the bottoms of my shoes! scumbag!

what?? you said berate you.

[cwesto]

Yea i thought berate meant literally, to rate something. Sounds like i was WRONGG pshhh

[Ganj]

no. i guess he was worried that he might sound arrogant if he came out and said, "it's my first grow and i'm already mastered." of course, that would sound arrogant coming from any first-time grower's mouth, however impressive that grow might be.

[smok3y]

Nice grow dude, looks like you got some real nice frosty buds there dude.. What did it all weigh when dry?:thumbsup:

[Johnaldinho]

They're still hanging up, its day 3.... will they be dry enough to weigh yet?

[braeh420]

They're still hanging up, its day 3.... will they be dry enough to weigh yet?

no wait at least a week, then u should cure them.

[Chriffles]

Congratulations. xD You make me confident.

[firstgrower]

Harvested today :jointsmile:

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7967/kidi1.jpg

Hope I didnt harvest too late, Lowryder... probably a total of 9 - 10 weeks old
Any predictions on what my yield might be after it drys?
Hello Jonaldinho,

Congrads for your harvest. Looks like nice buds. I am also new at growing. So far no success. How did you solve the skunk odor(smell) problem. PC case is nice, where did you get from ?

Firstgrower

[Johnaldinho]

Congrads for your harvest. Looks like nice buds. I am also new at growing. So far no success. How did you solve the skunk odor(smell) problem. PC case is nice, where did you get from ?


I used 'ONA' Odor Neutralizing agent ' Block.

And I am not sure of the rules here on linking people directly to sites.... so just to be safe:
Google > hydroponic-growrooms

[dgsgandalf]

Do you get the ONA at the grocery store, or do you have to go to a specialty store? Did it kill all of the odor or just most of it. I've always vented outside, so i guess i'm kinda paranoid about my room reeking of delightfulness :)

[marijuanavillebilly]

Sunlight Sheds Hydroponics Systems (http://www.sunlightsheds.com/turn_key_units.htm?gclid=CNbRqOCI4pACFQUsPAodBDFxX Q)

second to last product.
its a updated version

[tokr2153]

congrats on the nice harvest im predicting a most 32 to 40 grams good job

[firstgrower]

Sunlight Sheds Hydroponics Systems (http://www.sunlightsheds.com/turn_key_units.htm?gclid=CNbRqOCI4pACFQUsPAodBDFxX Q)

second to last product.
its a updated version

hi marijuanavillebilly,

thanks for the link. i am looking for a cheap grow room equipment webstore in europe, because i don't want to use converter for voltage(220 to 110) and so on. I already found one, Hydroponics Shop - Indoor gardening hydroponic systems and equipment. (http://www.hydroponics.eu) but shipping cost is quite expensive 79 â?¬ (DHL). Also I found items also quite expensive. Do you know any webstore similar to Hydroponics Shop - Indoor gardening hydroponic systems and equipment. (http://www.hydroponics.eu) but cheaper in shipping and in general ? If not thanks anyway.

Firstgrower

[SantaClawz]

I have to say, in the begining I doubted that this would work as well as it did. The best harvest from a lowryder ive ever seen.
Good Job, any word on that dry weight or did you smoke it all before it made it onto the scale?

[medicinegivers]

Latest pic of the budding lowryder :jointsmile:
I'd say she has about 10-14 days left before harvest ;)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7141/buddingaf8.jpg

Is that a computer case? Nice covert grow!

[dgsgandalf]

Smoked any of the goods yet? And any word on the dried weight?

Another thing... How did you set up the DWC? I've always done plain old soil but i would like to try a hydro setup and DWC seems to be the easiest and cheapest way to do it. I know the basics, but is there any way you could take a picture or draw a diagram?

Peace!

[StOnEdMoNk]

i wish i could see the pics they arent showing on my cpu but from what every1 is saying sure they look fine and all

[Johnaldinho]

Sorry I havent been replying to my own thread ... :stoned:

Dried weigh in WAS around 38 grams.

I did it in a DWC, and what i'll do this weekend is get my camera and take a picture of the DWC setup. I'll include an explaination for what everything did/does.
(for those who have asked)

[dgsgandalf]

Hey John, you still with us buddy? Lol, i'm sure you're just distracted smokin' your fine lookin bud. I ordered some Lowrider seeds the other day (unfortunately all i have space for), and i was still wondering how you put together that DWC system you used.

Thanks and happy chiefin'!

[deaner]

wow, thats an incredible yeild concidering! i am amazed, this was an interesting log, i want to see what you can do with a bigger growspace.

[Johnaldinho]

Right, sorry I havent been about. Busy smoking and real life stuff :stoned:

I started my second grow last week, same computer case and DWC system, but this time with Lowryder #2, and this time two plants instead of one.

Soon as I get my camera up n running again i'll be back here to log it on a regular basis.

I'll also take some pics of the DWC system for people who are curious.

I'll be putting the new pics up on this thread.

[dgsgandalf]

How are those LR2's lookin? Any pics?

[dgsgandalf]

I just got some new LR2 seeds. I'll be growing mine outside. You mentioned you were getting some LR2 seeds soon, so lets compare your indoor product and my outdoor grow.

[ChronicE]

If i have not seen your pictures i would not of believed that That could of been done in such a small confinement WOW hella nice grow heh your leaves look like saw blades thats badass

Chronice

[stinkyattic]

GREAT work- I wouldn't have expected such great results in such a small space. I guess it all depends how much ya want it.

[lanyslinas]

If you really want to berate someone, Berate Me (http://berate.me/?target=10020)!

:S2:

[danish]

hey is those pictures coming you got my fingers all criply for a home project as i have both a carbon sealed noice reduced casing and lowjacked 250psu which could run the 125 and fans :D

PLEASE! ... looked realy good would like to see how i can meassure up...