Enjoying my first Hydro grow ...

[the image reaper]

so far, anyway ... had a couple early pH scares ... but, overall, the plants have done as good as expected, and a clone taken directly from the mother to the other hydro-pot, seems to be doing just fine ... lots of helpful info both from reading the Forums, and friends here ... thanks :thumbsup: ... I am enjoying this, after soil over and over, it's kinda cool to 'go back to school' to learn new stuff, makes it interesting again ... :jointsmile: ...

[gainesvillegreen]

Those are the ones transplanted from soil into hydro? My friend is considering that soon with an awesome soil plant he has.

[Opie Yutts]

Welcome to the club, I hope you enjoy your stay.

[the image reaper]

Those are the ones transplanted from soil into hydro? My friend is considering that soon with an awesome soil plant he has.

yup, had two plants in soil for about 6 weeks, terribly stunted from light-bleaching ... the one was male, and has since disappeared :wtf: ... I took a cutting from the mother on the right, and planted it in the newly-empty pot ... strains differ, but mine doesn't seem to mind the changes one bit ... when I pulled the male from the pot, he already had good white roots growing after only 4 days in the hydroton ... :jointsmile:

[the image reaper]

Opie, I really dig your 'disclaimer' ... finally, a well-worded notice :D :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

Reaper put a cup or a plate around that little scamper or those constantly wet leaves will burn....you can take it away when she's tall enough.

[Weedhound]

PS....they look great and happy :thumbsup:

[Opie Yutts]

Reaper put a cup or a plate around that little scamper or those constantly wet leaves will burn....you can take it away when she's tall enough.

This is probably a good idea. I notice that when I put my babies in the clay pellets, wherever the leaves touch the hydroton they burn and die. I think this will happen if there is any nutrients in your system. I start them at 1/4 strength, and even that is enough to leave nutrients on the individual pellets. Even when they look dry there is usually a slight bit of moisture in them, and I think the new leaves just can't handle being in constant contact.

Thanks for the compliment.

[the image reaper]

yeah, I have a clear bowl I occasionally put over it, was off for photo ... I purposely let it get soaking wet frequently, etc., and the clone is in full-strength nutes, too (I know this is 'wrong', it's a 'stress-test') ... I am 'stress-testing' to determine stability in my own personal hybrid (anytime I have a plant that's not growing 100%, I 'experimentally' abuse it, to learn more about it) ... if pro breeders did more of that, I think you'd see a lot less genetic weaknesses ... so far, nothing seems to be damaging to her, she is handling all the mistreatment I can 'accidentally' commit (she must have found out she is a WEED) :thumbsup: ... I absolutely don't pretend to be a pro breeder, but I am a firm believer in strong stable genetics (must be from growing up around all that Illinois corn :jointsmile:) ... 'only the strong survive' :D ... :jointsmile:

[cactusman23]

looking good reaper, I'm in the middle of my best dwc grow i've had in a while, i hope to try my hand at drip and or flood and drain someday

[Weedhound]

My only thought with the constantly wet leaves is.....wet leaves under a strong light will burn. I don't think it has anything to do with nutes....I think it's just wet leaves under a strong light.. :)

[PharmaCan]

Nice looking grow, Reaper. That plant you took out of the soil is looking real good! :thumbsup:

PC :smokin:

[the image reaper]

My only thought with the constantly wet leaves is.....wet leaves under a strong light will burn. I don't think it has anything to do with nutes....I think it's just wet leaves under a strong light.. :)

you're absolutely correct, water on leaves magnifies and burns plants ... now, if I could just figure out why 5 days of soaked leaves, and full-strength nutes, didn't screw her up any worse, than what they did :wtf: ... I'm guessing they 'got a pass' this time, because I backed my lamp off so far (at 28" now, lowered it a few inches today, and will put the dome back over the clone) ... after my light-bleaching scare, I've backed off the lighting distance, maybe too much ... :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

Better too much than too little......I dropped my one k mh about a foot from some new seedlings at first try.....couldn't find the little things a few hours later....:D

Looks good reaper.....are you using a zyme product or H202 for your roots?

[the image reaper]

I'm using the included General Hydroponics 3-part nutrients, Cal-Mag+, dab of molasses, and added a little Earth Juice 'Catalyst' for some organic activity ... I wasn't expecting the light-bleaching, I'm so used to using fluoro-tubes just barely above the canopy ... I bought the 400-watt setup, and have just been getting closer and closer ... :D ... didn't catch on to what was happening until it was too late, the seedlings were white as printer paper, and stunted for weeks ... that hydro plant in the pic is 7 weeks from seed ! :wtf: ... I should toss her, and start over with my 5 new seedlings , but she fought so hard, and is showing so much promise, she is getting a break ... I wish I had room to maintain her as a mother, she has shown outstanding stress resistance and heavy pre-flowering ... :smokin:

[Opie Yutts]

if I could just figure out why 5 days of soaked leaves, and full-strength nutes, didn't screw her up any worse, than what they did

Because your light was back. I am a big fan of pulling your lights back in the beginning for several reasons. For one, the closer your light is to your plants, the more right on your PH and nutrients must be. If I put fresh clones under my 600W HPS, or even my 400 MH, I make sure the light is a few feet back to start.

[Opie Yutts]

I dropped my one k mh about a foot from some new seedlings at first try.....couldn't find the little things a few hours later

I would be laughing if it weren't so sad. Sorry. Aint lessons learned the hard way grand?

[palerider7777]

yeah, I have a clear bowl I occasionally put over it, was off for photo ... I purposely let it get soaking wet frequently, etc., and the clone is in full-strength nutes, too (I know this is 'wrong', it's a 'stress-test') ... I am 'stress-testing' to determine stability in my own personal hybrid (anytime I have a plant that's not growing 100%, I 'experimentally' abuse it, to learn more about it) ... if pro breeders did more of that, I think you'd see a lot less genetic weaknesses ... so far, nothing seems to be damaging to her, she is handling all the mistreatment I can 'accidentally' commit (she must have found out she is a WEED) :thumbsup: ... I absolutely don't pretend to be a pro breeder, but I am a firm believer in strong stable genetics (must be from growing up around all that Illinois corn :jointsmile:) ... 'only the strong survive' :D ... :jointsmile:

i took a cutting well really it was growing into my lights so i did'nt really care so i cut it back to clear the lights and i had some nutes i had from a nute change at 1500ppm and i just droped it in there i had abunch of hydroton in the bucket tooso i just droped it in there and it did'nt burn wilt nothin after about 4 days it had roots and was growin great with no probs at all i thought to myself man nobody really knows how this shit works i mean for the most part but now i think a plant will do what it wants to do as it's built into it's dna so to speak to adapt and survive or atleast some times then and thats not the only one that has done that i've done alot of thinks people say u should never do and the plant just keeps on going and going so who knows

[palerider7777]

My only thought with the constantly wet leaves is.....wet leaves under a strong light will burn. I don't think it has anything to do with nutes....I think it's just wet leaves under a strong light.. :)

it has nothin to do with lights, when the leafs stay wet from layin on the hydroton, or whatever u have it in and it stays wet it gets over saturated, and pretty much drowns the leaf. as it's not gettin any air to it ive had plants just in the window in a setup like he has with the drip, and in just plain water and it still happens with hardly anylight. let alone under mh or hps so thats my guess iv'e ruled out light,heat nutes so only thing i could think is it's just to wet and can't breath, as if it was a light factor u would see lil burnt spots, where the water was not the whole leaf dying all the way to the stalk just my 2c

[Weedhound]

Opie....that light thing is nothing. If you want to see something interesting put a ml/gallon of superthrive in a hydro setup with a some brand new seedlings. They actually PETRIFY. :eek: I''m not joking...you could put someone's eye out the hardened little taproot. :wtf:

Ps....I know reaper LOVES superthrive....:D

[MVP]

... I wish I had room to maintain her as a mother, she has shown outstanding stress resistance and heavy pre-flowering ... :smokin:

You ever consider turning her into a bonsai mum?

mums (http://www.cannabase.com/cl/pages/mums/mums.html)

I'm doing it right now and it seems to be simple and effective.

[Opie Yutts]

Opie....that light thing is nothing. If you want to see something interesting put a ml/gallon of superthrive in a hydro setup with a some brand new seedlings. They actually PETRIFY. :eek: I''m not joking...you could put someone's eye out the hardened little taproot. :wtf:

Ps....I know reaper LOVES superthrive....:D

Well I guess that's one way to make toothpicks.

I love SuperThrive as well, but I don't do more than 2 drops per gallon for clones, and 4 or 5 for young adults.

[PharmaCan]

Reaper, Thanks! :thumbsup:

PC :smokin:

[the image reaper]

:wtf: an update ... I pulled the clone out of the hydroton yesterday, as one of my new seedlings was looking better ... out of curiosity, I tore open the rapidrooter plug ... the clone had no roots at all ... zero, zilch, it never even tried to root ... I can understand that OK, but the damned thing 'looked' fine ... it looked just like the day I put it in there (which is why I replaced it) some sort of suspended animation, I guess :D ... regardless, I found out I can't always be lucky , and luck has always been my 'ace in the hole' ... :jointsmile:

[MVP]

:wtf: an update ... I pulled the clone out of the hydroton yesterday, as one of my new seedlings was looking better ... out of curiosity, I tore open the rapidrooter plug ... the clone had no roots at all ... zero, zilch, it never even tried to root ... I can understand that OK, but the damned thing 'looked' fine ... it looked just like the day I put it in there (which is why I replaced it) some sort of suspended animation, I guess :D ... regardless, I found out I can't always be lucky , and luck has always been my 'ace in the hole' ... :jointsmile:

Yeah, I completely understand. I've had the same thing happen before, so I always make sure the babes have a nice amout of roots started before placing them in the hydroton. It saves me the frustration of an uneven growth rate and canopy, kinda like my growth bubbler (I transition the cuttings from the rockwool cubes to the clay pebbles under CFL for a week or two) which seats six babes but has been taken over by two and the other four are fighting for light...

[stinkyattic]

I also make darn tootin' that I can see plenty of visible roots before putting clones in their new homes, whether it's hydroton or soil.
You already know how much I love bark plugs so I won't belabor the issue.. :D

This looks great so far reap.

[palerider7777]

:wtf: an update ... I pulled the clone out of the hydroton yesterday, as one of my new seedlings was looking better ... out of curiosity, I tore open the rapidrooter plug ... the clone had no roots at all ... zero, zilch, it never even tried to root ... I can understand that OK, but the damned thing 'looked' fine ... it looked just like the day I put it in there (which is why I replaced it) some sort of suspended animation, I guess :D ... regardless, I found out I can't always be lucky , and luck has always been my 'ace in the hole' ... :jointsmile:

lol i hear that."lucky"

[the image reaper]

little update: ... I vegged my 'Daddys Girl' for exactly 8 weeks, and switched to my 12/12 flowering cycle 7 days ago ... I'm getting the pH settled, getting more predictable for me, now, and the GH nutes seem to be doing fine ... my temps are great, but my humidity is high ... that will be fixed when I install my new vent (courtesy of xcrispi, thank you :thumbsup: ) ... I FIM'd her after the 5th internodes, and she responded with 3 growing tips, my 3-headed monster :wtf: ... in short, I am surprised at the rapid growth, it is even better than I would have suspected ... if this plant hadn't been light-bleached as a seedling, and almost died, I might be afraid to open the cabinet door ;) ... the CFL in the photo is one of those odor-neutralizing bulbs, red-spectrum, and they work well ... thanks for everyone's help, I'd be lost without it ... :jointsmile:

[xcrispi]

Looks great so far man ,
Can't wait to see budz . We went 12/12 the day after you did . :thumbsup:
The vent = comes around goes around bro. - no need for thanx .

A cpl. of Daddys Girl's are leaving monday for a tour of Alaska of all places . See how she grows in = to fukn' "Sibera" like conditions . LOL .
Holler Later
Crispi :jointsmile:

[the image reaper]

I always wanted to visit Alaska, makes me happy to at least know a couple of my 'children' will get to experience it :D

[Treetops]

She looks good all cuddled up and growing like a "weed"....LOL...Nice lookin plant....

Later,
Treetops

[MVP]

Dude, I grew up in Alaska and I tell ya there are many indoor farmers that can do Daddy's Girl justice.

[Opie Yutts]

I am surprised at the rapid growth, it is even better than I would have suspected

Kinda makes you glad you started a hydro grow, huh?

Nice lookin plant.

[the image reaper]

yeah, I'm glad I finally tried hydro ... not sure how it will taste and smell, compared to her soil sisters, but I'll flush real well ... it's a nice winter project, since I stay in more, but might be different situation, when I want to to take off for 3-4 days camping, etc ... :jointsmile:

[PharmaCan]

it's a nice winter project, since I stay in more, but might be different situation, when I want to to take off for 3-4 days camping, etc ... :jointsmile:

That's the major down side to this hobby, your kinda married to it.

Good looking plants Reaper!! :thumbsup:

PC :smokin:

[Opie Yutts]

it's a nice winter project, since I stay in more, but might be different situation, when I want to to take off for 3-4 days camping, etc ... :jointsmile:

I took that kind of stuff into account when designing my grow room. By increasing your reservoir size you can leave it unattended more often. I can go 4 days no problem.

[the image reaper]

I took that kind of stuff into account when designing my grow room. By increasing your reservoir size you can leave it unattended more often. I can go 4 days no problem.

sounds like my next project, after I finish the present 2-3 :jointsmile:

[Opie Yutts]

Cha, yeah. I know what you mean.

[the image reaper]

couple days later, I'm getting scared to open the door, she's growing so fast ;) ... I guess I will be starting on a new cabinet next week, present one has poor ventilation, plus, I can build the new one about 6" wider, every little bit helps ... :jointsmile:

[Opie Yutts]

Man that looks so good.

[DurbanStone]

*drools*

[the image reaper]

today's pic of Daddys Girl, day 32 of flower (the hydro plant pictured is lanky, while her 'soil sisters' are quite bushy with lush foliage, odd how the hydro changes the 'look' of the plant) :wtf:... plus, a little soil DG that I just transplanted from soil, into hydro for flowering ... starting to frost up nicely ... :weedpoke:

[stinkyattic]

Reap, are you sure that plant isn't artificial? It's so glossy and pretty.
I'm loving the classy old-school instrument dials. Can I get an altitude with that humidity reading? :D

Mmmm I can smell grapefruity goodness coming through the computer. Reap, you aren't gonna believe it, one of my peeps just put in a request for DG cuts, and she knows my whole 35 strain menu... THAT'S the one she's after.

Could it be that you've created the next MILFweed? And to think you were gonna change the name after that scare...

[Opie Yutts]

I've heard the reaper waxes each leaf daily.

[stinkyattic]

Well it's important to a little diva like Daddy's Girl (who apparently is a bit spoiled too by the looks of things) to stay smooth and nicely waxed! :D

[the image reaper]

Well it's important to a little diva like Daddy's Girl (who apparently is a bit spoiled too by the looks of things) to stay smooth and nicely waxed! :D

well, I was only gonna wax her 'bikini-line', but got carried away ... :S2:

[BlueBear]

Hay Reaper, hope all is well with your grow as I type this. I have some of those DG beans and look forward to popping them when I get some room to put them in a grouping with any others that may have similar finishing times. Can you give me a quick run down of the strain, finishing time, tall, short, sleepy, hypnotic, erotic, smelly, fruity or what???
Well, keep up with the hydroponics exploration and I think that you will continue to be very happy.
"MILF" What is this about? Will I need to place a disclaimer on any gifted nuggs I give to female friends from this strain?? Adieu

[stinkyattic]

Aww that was a joke, from the show 'Weeds' where she impulsively calls the new strain 'MILFweed' and suddenly everyone and his brotha and his brothas brotha wants a slice.

[BlueBear]

Shucks!! I am sure you can put together a strain like that Stinky, I believe in you and your green thumb and womanly charm/magic.
Adieu

[the image reaper]

Hay Reaper, hope all is well with your grow as I type this. I have some of those DG beans and look forward to popping them when I get some room to put them in a grouping with any others that may have similar finishing times. Can you give me a quick run down of the strain, finishing time, tall, short, sleepy, hypnotic, erotic, smelly, fruity or what???
Well, keep up with the hydroponics exploration and I think that you will continue to be very happy.
"MILF" What is this about? Will I need to place a disclaimer on any gifted nuggs I give to female friends from this strain?? Adieu

:thumbsup: very glad to hear from you Bluebear, ANY comments or criticism are very welcome, as you grow her out ... she is approximately 50% Cinderella99, 25% Northern Lights and 25% G-13 ... I have only grown her indoors so far ... 8 weeks from seed on 18/6, and 50 days at 12/12, she finished with about 10% amber trichomes ... pretty medium feeder, but she does like a shot of magnesium, I just dose the water with 10ml CalMag+ per gallon of RO water, seems to be about right ... mine grew about 48" tall, untopped, and 40" topped ... very short internodes (in soil, anyway, she got quite gangly in hydro, don't understand why) and dense branching, the NL really shows herself in the bushiness ... taking numerous cuttings for clones, heat, etc., all failed to phase her, she seems unconcerned about abuse or stress ... with 10% amber trichs, she is very trippy, will make the most depressed people giggle like schoolgirls, lol ... gives me body rushes, similar to chemicals from days gone past (side effect: makes me real horny :wtf:) ... a very pleasant-smelling strain, she smells like lemons, grapefruits, pineapples, just not much like pot ... VERY good female/male ratio ... one thing that really impressed me, was it gave me NO munchies ... I couldn't even make myself eat, but a buddy said it gave him the munchies bad ... tossup ... she is a medium yielder, is VERY easy to manicure, (pic attached of the very first Daddy's Girl, the one I learned to love, lol :hippy:)... she liked molasses this current grow, too ... good luck with her, I'm anxious to hear crticisms and suggestions, been working with her about 2 years now ... :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

I showed a grower friend of mine one of those sassy Daddy's Girls last night that was only in week 2 or early 3 of flower and already had a coating of trichs on the LEAVES, and smells like a tropical drink. OMG. We were just standing there sniffing our fingers like a couple of teenage boys who'd just made it to third base for the first time....

[Balkey]

ROFL

[the image reaper]

I showed a grower friend of mine one of those sassy Daddy's Girls last night that was only in week 2 or early 3 of flower and already had a coating of trichs on the LEAVES, and smells like a tropical drink. OMG. We were just standing there sniffing our fingers like a couple of teenage boys who'd just made it to third base for the first time....

:D ... it gets better, :D ... I just snapped a photo a few minutes ago ... a young Daddy's Girl, not quite 3 weeks in flower, with trichomed STEMS :S2: ........ mmmmmmmmmmm fingers - Homer

[stinkyattic]

Oh
My
God

Reap you just hit one out the park. I have never seen anything like that.
Everyone, blow those pics up and just DROOL over the sick crystals.
We have here a TRUE hash plant.

[Balkey]

holy shit thats a lot of pretty's!!!! Nice job man!

[Chronisseur]

WOW!...That's fucking spectacular!

...all I can say is she's a tough lil' bitch. Took a VERY rough ride, before being left out of her tuppyware cutbox, while under lights and dryed out BADLY. Also, each leaf looked absolutely DEAD, so I resoaked her rapid rooter with a bit of Bigbloom (based on EXCELLENT results from a prior experiment) and sure enough....BACK IN BUSINESS!

Well done Reaper, well done:thumbsup:

[the image reaper]

thanks for the undeserved praise, but I just got 'lucky', crossed a couple of my favorites ... "old stoners never die, they just get lucky with their experiments" ... :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

What a GREAT photo!!! :thumbsup: What's the background on this again Reaper?

[the image reaper]

'Momma' was a Joey Weed 'NL99' ... 'Daddy' was a now-unavailable Motarebel 'Killa Queen 2006', and I used a peculiar pheno that had lots of 'sparkly' flower clusters appeared, only 1 of 5 looked like that, so I took a chance, and picked him over the others ... the only male I have gotten from these Daddys Girls still carried that aforementioned trait with them, so, I got lucky again :D ... theoretically, this hybrid should probably be around 50% Cinderella99, 25% G-13, and 25% Northern Lights ... by this Spring, I will back-cross further, I still have 5 of the Motarebel seeds left, and lots of DG seeds to play with (I almost ran out of smoke for myself, from devoting the last couple crops to 'seedcrops', trying to develop this) ... future plans may introduce some of the original Shantibaba 'White Widow' into the mix, giving us 'White Girls' :D ... pic is of the 'Daddy' as he was growing ... if anybody ever winds up with one of these plants, I encourage you to share cuttings, etc ... I'm 'old-school', pot should be given away, it shouldn't have to always be about $$$... ENJOY ! :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

That guy is VERY sativa looking there. Those trichs on the stem of that other pic are enough to make you cry......with joy. :thumbsup:

[Opie Yutts]

triches on the stems. Now there's something you don't see every day. Nice. I suppose it won't be long until you show us some triches on the roots.

[the image reaper]

triches on the stems. Now there's something you don't see every day. Nice. I suppose it won't be long until you show us some triches on the roots.

I wish I was proficient with PhotoShop, just to give us a cheap thrill :S2:

[Opie Yutts]

That would be cool. Someone please do this. I don't have the time.

[the image reaper]

look REAL close... see 'em ? ... (I am so full of shit) ... :S2:

[Balkey]

Man, wtf image, I'm stoned, but damn it, I saw you said I'm so full of shit, but I STILL tried to see trich's on the roots hahahahahaha

[the image reaper]

Man, wtf image, I'm stoned, but damn it, I saw you said I'm so full of shit, but I STILL tried to see trich's on the roots hahahahahaha

I love it, thats funny, man :D

[Balkey]

I want to lick those trichomes. Idk, maybe its this dirt weed I got, but I think they would taste sweet and sticky!!!!! Like taffy!!

[SantaClawz]

look REAL close... see 'em ? ... (I am so full of shit) ... :S2:

Now I dont know which is worse smoking stems...or smoking roots?

[klondike_bar]

roots are better for eating then smoking, theyre chruchier....yummy

nice plant, makes me wanna make a nice big ol' ball of finger hash

[Balkey]

I wanna see some new photos!!! MMMM TASTY trichomes....MMMMMM

I want some. Keep it up!

[Balkey]

I showed a grower friend of mine one of those sassy Daddy's Girls last night that was only in week 2 or early 3 of flower and already had a coating of trichs on the LEAVES, and smells like a tropical drink. OMG. We were just standing there sniffing our fingers like a couple of teenage boys who'd just made it to third base for the first time....

whoa whoa now, I thought stinky fingers was first base?!!?!?

:wtf4::eek::eek:

[the image reaper]

whoa whoa now, I thought stinky fingers was first base?!!?!?

:wtf4::eek::eek:

when ya get my age, it seems as if the game is always 'rained-out' ... :(

[Balkey]

Awwww, image. Cheer up, the rainy days always pass. Well, almost always lol. How are your women doing today? All nice and perky???:S1::S1:

[the image reaper]

day 38 of the hydro 'Daddys Girl' ... she has what seems to be a magnesium deficiency, but harvest is about 2 weeks away, so I'm not too concerned ... possibly, the light-bleaching is occuring again, since I've run out of room, but nothing I can do about that ... next grow I'll flip to flower earlier, I prolonged it this time, because of light-bleaching ... we live and learn ... :jointsmile: P.S., thats all one, topped plant, except for the short frosty girl in the bottom right corner ... she was abandoned outside (an extra), but felt sorry for her, brought her back in, absolutely gooey :D

[Balkey]

WOOO new picture! I still want to eat your roots!!!!!

[the image reaper]

well, for the record, harvest is only two weeks away, probably, and the soil DGs are totally frosted, while the huge hydro plant is mostly just foliage, great for salads, but I'm none too happy with the hydro plant, so far ... the hydro plant is much larger, grew much faster, but only because the stems are so stretched :wtf: ... DG does NOT do that in soil, puzzling to me ... will know more next grow, as I continue with my Daddys Girl program ... :smokin:

[Balkey]

hmmmmm, what went wrong?!?!

[the image reaper]

nothing really wrong, just different ... all the numbers have been right all along ... she went thru a real bad couple weeks of light-bleaching when she was young ... I'd never encountered that before, took me awhile to figure it out ... so, perhaps that just delayed her a bit, or light-stressed her enough to elongate, thats possible, too ... no biggie, we'll know in couple weeks :jointsmile:

[Balkey]

interesting, can I have those roots now!!!!!!! hahahaha

[the image reaper]

our fellow grower, Treetops, pointed out a discrepancy, his sharp eyes caught something I missed :thumbsup: ... despite my earlier searches for anything named 'Daddy's Girl', it seems someone has already used that name for their African-sativa hybrid (NO genetic similarity to mine)...
since there's already too much confusion regarding strain-names, and they were 'first', I am trying to find out if my second-choice name, "Sky Pilot" has also been previously used, so I can 'officially' re-name her ... so far, I have found no such references ... but, if anyone finds a reference to a 'Sky Pilot' strain-name, please reply here ... I always liked 'Sky Pilot' as a name, it reflects well on her effects :stoned: ... my thanks for your patience, and your assistance ... :smokin:

[Balkey]

How about Daddys Pilot...lol hahahhaaha

[the image reaper]

after polling my friends that are growing her out, I pretty much have to stick with 'Daddy's Girl' name, after all ... my apologies if I took someone's name, but its kinda 'too late' to change it now ... I tried very hard to find someone else using the same name, and couldn't, until just a few days ago ... so, if I get 'called out' on her, I'll challenge him to a 'smoke-off' :jointsmile:, Winner keeps the name, and I'll even give him some Free seeds :D ...

[stinkyattic]

So 'Lil' brat' is a no-go? :D
I like Daddy's Girl. If the other one is so obscure as to be un-findable for so long (and I remember you looking, and asking me several months ago if I'd ever heard of such a strain name), I think you're good to go!
Mmmmm grapefruit..

[JackHerer]

Very intersting grow reaper I wouldn't worry about the name if I was you obviously its been long forgotten about & probably wasn't that outstanding. Yours seems to be spreading & people like it so untill someone can prove diferent go with it.

[the image reaper]

to avoid further confusion, I'm going to backcross her again soon, and have already picked out a different name for her progeny ... we're currently doing searches to verify her uniqueness, before adapting a new name ... hate playing a 'name game', but in this day of 'cute marketing names', we have no choice, I want to stay ethical ... (I know, I worry about the little shit too much) ... my present strain is Daddy's girl, and will remain Daddys Girl ... :jointsmile:

[JackHerer]

Can totaly understand your ethical attitude there Reaper as yet don't know even really what you mean by backcross but no doubt it will be interestng. I have recently read elsewhere that there is a seed growers forum highbred.net. I imagine if its any use you probably know about it but it was from TY that I saw it refered to as a source for seed research.

Maybe for now you could try what Ltd companies do when they want to use similar names Daddy's Girl (Your growing name). Good luck with the development I look forward to being able to get the seeds some time.

[the image reaper]

I will cross one my Daddy's Girl F1 females with her P1 'Daddy' ... that usually results in further stabilization, with less variance, although I have seen zero variance in them, so far, anyway :thumbsup: ... my lack of growing space makes a lot of growing steps difficult, if not impossible ... that's why I asked friends to try growing her, makes for a broader view of her likes, dislikes ... now, if I could just find a woman as steady and tolerant as my Daddys Girl (and can make me feel as good :D) ... :jointsmile:

[MVP]

... now, if I could just find a woman as steady and tolerant as my Daddys Girl (and can make me feel as good :D) ... :jointsmile:

When you find that woman she if she has a younger sister... :pimp:

[the image reaper]

thank God for friends that aren't 'math-challenged' :thumbsup: ... while chatting w/xcrispi, I realized my 'day-count' was off by a couple weeks, at least ... (explains my concern over the plant behaving differently :wtf:) ... took this pic of my hydro 'Daddys Girl' last night, she is finally frosting up ... pic is of a mid-plant fan leaf, all her leaves are 'bubbling' like this, forming trichomes, also on stems ... smelling beautiful :hippy:

[the image reaper]

I just had communications with the owner of Kiwi Seeds, who released a Daddy's Girl strain before 'mine' was bred ... he is quite a gentleman, and responded to my inquiries almost immediately, a good sign for a breeder, these days ... :thumbsup: ... my version of Daddys Girl is going to be back-crossed once again, and the name changed for her progeny (Kiwi was very gracious, could care less about my un-intentional 'copying' of the name) ... btw, Kiwi Seeds just won a HTCC for one of his other strains :thumbsup: ... I can stop haranguing this non-issue now, sorry if it got monotonous ... just plant pics and updates from now on :D ... film at eleven :jointsmile:

[JackHerer]

The guys at Kiwi Seeds are pretty cool was meant to go in & have a chat with them about the Canna stuff I use as they have used & been an official agent for a while. The Alegria Haze was really nice very tasty in the vapourizer, but didn't get to try the Tasman Haze which got a second in the Sativa as that was part of the Why Times celeb a$$ kissing party only as a seed company entry.

Personally I thought too many were chasing after a version of a Haze cross.

I'll defnitely be going into to have a chat with the grow guy I was speaking to at the Kiwi Seeds booth when I am back in Amsterdam.

[the image reaper]

Daddys Girl's lowest branches haven't been any slouches either, starting to sugar up nicely :) ... day 34 of flowering, about 16 more days to go ... this is last week for Tiger Bloom nutes, will finish the last week with only pH'd water and a glob of molasses ... :weedpoke:

[Weedhound]

I was wondering if you just grew such a big plant in hydro that it's not ready yet.....being off on the days makes sense.

[the image reaper]

I was wondering if you just grew such a big plant in hydro that it's not ready yet.....being off on the days makes sense.

yeah, it was a huge relief when xcrispi questioned my day-count, and I found the 'culprit' when I went back thru my logs ... I made my mistake when I confused the dates of my soil DGs, with the hydro DGs, when copying to the December calendar page ... mixed grows are so confusing to my tired old brain :stupid:

[the image reaper]

some fresh pics from today, Day 36 ... pics are of my first hydro grow, a topped 'NorCal Daddys Girl', these are from a couple of the growing shoots, probably harvest in 14 days, or so ... :jointsmile:

[MVP]

NorCal DG is looking nice... what percentage amber trichomes are you gonna use as your trigger to harvest? Or are you going solely by date? The pics are great with the frosty crystals smiling back at the camera. :D

[the image reaper]

normally, DG will be showing 5%-10% amber trichomes at 50 days ... that's usually when I harvest :jointsmile:

[MVP]

That is awesome. I usually start flushing my hydro when I see 10% amber to end up with a nice balanced high without the total couchlock. I haven't been able to get it down to less than 60 days but I'm happy to see that others can....

[the image reaper]

this short 50-day finishing isn't my doing, can't take credit for that :D ... that is a dominant trait found in the Cinderella 99 genes ... and, NorCal Daddy's Girl is about 50% C99, nice to have that trait still present :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

Oh those look tasty.....can't wait to try them myself....:thumbsup:

[Treetops]

looks like DWC and you are getting along alright....Great pics, love the frost...

Treetops

[the image reaper]

what's the deal with that phallic Avatar, dude ? .. looks like that plant is maybe TOO happy :S2:

[Treetops]

what's the deal with that phallic Avatar, dude ? .. looks like that plant is maybe TOO happy :S2:


Cover from 'Ole Homegrown Quaarterly' Volume 1 # 8....guess it looks better on the book but not as an avatar..LOL..

[doco]

Volume 1, Number 8, 1982 - too funny - I have that issue sitting on my desk at this very moment.

[the image reaper]

Cover from 'Ole Homegrown Quaarterly' Volume 1 # 8....guess it looks better on the book but not as an avatar..LOL..

you've mentioned that name before ... is it a magazine ?? ... I never heard of that one :jointsmile:

[Treetops]

Volume 1, Number 8, 1982 - too funny - I have that issue sitting on my desk at this very moment.


doco,
That is so cool!!! I figured I was the only one who had/has seen this quarterly as no one ever responded as such.....I'm missing issues 2 and 3 for some reason,....have all the rest of the issues that I know of up to issue number 9....would love to have them to complete my collection...damn!!

Later,
Treetops :thumbsup:

[Treetops]

you've mentioned that name before ... is it a magazine ?? ... I never heard of that one :jointsmile:

Yeah, Reaper...its a grow type newsletter/phamphlet book from 1979...it was one of my first grow info type books from that time...along with Murphy Stevens, Mel Frank and Ed Rosenthals books as well...

Later,
Treetops

[doco]

doco,
That is so cool!!! I figured I was the only one who had/has seen this quarterly as no one ever responded as such.....I'm missing issues 2 and 3 for some reason,....have all the rest of the issues that I know of up to issue number 9....would love to have them to complete my collection...damn!!

Later,
Treetops :thumbsup:

My issues 1 & 2 are a second printing and are combined in a single issue with George Washington on the cover with the heading "He Grew His Own". I have the rest through 9 except I am missing issue 5.

I think it would be ok for me to scan them and post a web link up to them?

I picked these up when I was in the bay area in the early '80's. They were what I used to learn how to grow my first sensimilla outdoors and the first place that I ever heard about hydroponics for weed. Straight old school before the days of cannabis.com!!

[the image reaper]

wow ... you guys must be really OLD :S2:

[Treetops]

My issues 1 & 2 are a second printing and are combined in a single issue with George Washington on the cover with the heading "He Grew His Own". I have the rest through 9 except I am missing issue 5.

I think it would be ok for me to scan them and post a web link up to them?

I picked these up when I was in the bay area in the early '80's. They were what I used to learn how to grow my first sensimilla outdoors and the first place that I ever heard about hydroponics for weed. Straight old school before the days of cannabis.com!!

doco,
Guess as Reaper says, 'we are old'..but I dont care...enjoyed it this far...
I dont think CC would mind as its a part of our past in the growing of plants..I think it would be an excellent idea..I could then see what I've been missing all these years LOL ...maybe I could scan my copy of #5 as well, for you...send it to your site?

Hope this works out so everyone can see them..

Thanks,
Treetops

:thumbsup:

[MVP]

My issues 1 & 2 are a second printing and are combined in a single issue with George Washington on the cover with the heading "He Grew His Own". I have the rest through 9 except I am missing issue 5.

I think it would be ok for me to scan them and post a web link up to them?

I picked these up when I was in the bay area in the early '80's. They were what I used to learn how to grow my first sensimilla outdoors and the first place that I ever heard about hydroponics for weed. Straight old school before the days of cannabis.com!!

doco,
Guess as Reaper says, 'we are old'..but I dont care...enjoyed it this far...
I dont think CC would mind as its a part of our past in the growing of plants..I think it would be an excellent idea..I could then see what I've been missing all these years LOL ...maybe I could scan my copy of #5 as well, for you...send it to your site?

Hope this works out so everyone can see them..

Thanks,
Treetops

:thumbsup:

Just Do It!

great idea, love to see them

[doco]

Ok, the first issue is up in PDF form here: Ole Homegrown Quarterly (http://www.sdwaterworks.com/homegrown/#)

I'll put a link in the lounge too. Sorry for the hijack Image Reaper :jointsmile:

[Treetops]

Thanks doco..it will be well worth it I'm sure...
Peace,
Treetops:D:thumbsup:

[the image reaper]

you guys didn't 'hijack' the thread, you ADDED to the thread :thumbsup: , besides, at his age, Treetops has to have something to do ... I hear it gets real boring at those nursing homes (he made the mistake of being one year older than me) :S2:

[Opie Yutts]

Getting old sure beats the alternative.

[Opie Yutts]

doco,

Wow, and I thought my wife's cookbooks were old. Thank you very much. Rep for you. I got my copy now.

People if you don't like reading directions, the "next" and "previous" doesn't work (yet?). You have to click the picture. Don't give up and leave like I almost did.

[the image reaper]

started flushing today, Day 46, should be final week ... NorCal Daddy's Girl is a 50-day finisher in soil, I hope for similarity here ... :jointsmile:

[Opie Yutts]

Looking real nice PC. Can't wait to taste em.

[the image reaper]

talk about 'lucking out', just as I placed her on a planned 'last 3 days of darkness', our electricity was taken out by a rain/windstorm :wtf: ... for exactly 74 hours, in my case :wtf: ... I knew 'Somebody' up there loves me, just more proof :D :thumbsup:

[MVP]

A little divine intervention for NorCal Daddy's Girl? Can't wait to hear the smoke report...

[the image reaper]

A little divine intervention for NorCal Daddy's Girl? Can't wait to hear the smoke report...

I can give a smoke report now, I've grown her before :D ... she is roughly a 50/50 hybrid, but her effects are much more sativa-leaning ... harvested with about 10% amber trichs or less, results in a non-paranoia high buzz, very visual and psychedelic ... impossible to be depressed with her, she is a real 'grinner' :D ... no drowsiness or lethargy :thumbsup: ... she gives me no munchies, at all, but a couple friends did get ravenous ... I get body 'rushes' from her, very stimulating stuff ... outstanding for sex, no kidding, very sensual, tactile ... :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

:D
My hydro DGs are still happily chugging along and the hairs are starting to go brown, so I'm expecting a harvest within 3 weeks or less. The smell is still quite sweet, and even in the hot spot under the light they aren't showing any undue stress.
Can't WAIT to try her in dirt! I keep taking cuttings, only to cave to the begging of friends who have smelled her in flower... lol.

[Balkey]

You still better have some trichomed roots for me. I wanna make some spaghetti with them!!

[the image reaper]

You still better have some trichomed roots for me. I wanna make some spaghetti with them!!

I was thinking of firing up the old John Deere, and plowing them under for next season :D ... but , I'll 'snip' a couple bushels of roots for ya :chainsaw:

[Balkey]

I was thinking of firing up the old John Deere, and plowing them under for next season :D ... but , I'll 'snip' a couple bushels of roots for ya :chainsaw:

MMMM, thank you Image, I sure would like those!!!! You must have someone or something watching over you to catch the power outage/harvest time break there. Glad it all worked out, well, semi-well. Maybe some harvested pics?????? I drool over those too, just as I do your umm sexy roots :stoned::stoned:

[the image reaper]

new pic, day 55 ... :weedpoke:

[Treetops]

Lookin good:thumbsup:...How much longer do you think?

Thanks,
Treetops

[the image reaper]

wish I knew for sure ... in soil, she finishes in 50 days ... this plant was grown in hydro for first time, plus 'too cold' temps, slowing her maturity ... I'm guessing a week, or more, as still no amber trichs ... I gave her another shot of bloom nutes yesterday, as she is still piling on the frosting, so will have to re-flush, too ... :D ... anxious to finish her, as then I start on a new cabinet, etc ... harvest pics will probably be my last posts here ... :smokin:

[Balkey]

Last posts here on the forums on in this topic? Please don't go oh wise one!!!

[Opie Yutts]

Well I feel extremely fortunate to have been able to keep my pictures during the critical updates and maintenance. Sorry you went to all that trouble then lost yours.

[the image reaper]

losing the pics not a real pleasant surprise ... :( ... well, I guess I should look at the positive side of it ... they only destroyed possible 'evidence', so I have no complaint there ... I just stopped by 'on the way out', anyway ... WILL THE LAST PERSON TO LEAVE CANNABIS.COM, PLEASE TURN OUT THE LIGHTS ?? ... :S2:

[smokenss]

lol im right b hind ya mate.

[Balkey]

I Love you Image, and Opie and smakenss and umm all of your.

On the flip side.

[Treetops]

losing the pics not a real pleasant surprise ... :( ... well, I guess I should look at the positive side of it ... they only destroyed possible 'evidence', so I have no complaint there ... I just stopped by 'on the way out', anyway ... WILL THE LAST PERSON TO LEAVE CANNABIS.COM, PLEASE TURN OUT THE LIGHTS ?? ... :S2:


Sorry to see you go, after all this time...There are not many growers here with your knowledge and experience and you will be surely missed!

Good luck and its been great learning from you all these many months..

Peace,
Treetops

[the image reaper]

harvested my first hydro-plant today :thumbsup: ... as expected, some major differences, soil vs hydroponic ... Positives: improved growth and better yield :thumbsup: ... Negatives: time-consuming daily 'chores', her pleasant 'citrus-floral' aroma is more of a 'sour cough-syrup' smell now :wtf:, and I had humidity problems for entire trailer :( ... she also took 2 additional weeks to finish, 64 days instead of the usual 50 ... (but that may also be because of low (50-60) grow-room temps this time around, I won't lay all the blame on the hydro) ... regardless, my next grow will also be hydro ... I am now adding a 3rd solution reservoir, (recirculating), to minimize maintenance, and hopefully allow me to leave home for 2-3 days at a time ... photos are of the single plant's yield, trimmed, manicured, but not dried ... molasses made an obvious difference, the buds are HEAVY, gooey, and DENSE ... luckily for me, she also must be very resistant to mold, as my humidity was 95% with lights OFF, and still 60% with lights ON, door open :wtf: ... it's no secret, my plants and I survive on 'Luck' :D ... thanks again to Xcrispi, StinkyAttic, Treetops, Weedhound, and local friends for the help, I'd have been lost without ya :thumbsup: ... further proof that 'newbie' growers can have excellent results, if they just READ the Forum posts, and disseminate the growing knowledge already here ... I strongly recommend going back thru all the old pages of Cultivation info, as most questions have already been answered, repeatedly ... good luck, and goodbye, folks :jointsmile:

[Opie Yutts]

Hey IR nice harvest. Congratulations. So, did you say if you will be hanging out on another forum? Please check your rep.

[Opie Yutts]

Would you care to calculate what percentage higher yield you got using hydro?
Would you care to calculate how many extra hours it took you to use hydro?

[the image reaper]

Would you care to calculate what percentage higher yield you got using hydro?
Would you care to calculate how many extra hours it took you to use hydro?

Opie, so sorry I left you and some other folks without special THANKS !! ... just like the Academy Awards, the thank-you's just go on and on :D ... btw, I love that bubble-cloner design you turned me onto :thumbsup: ... gosh, yield would have to be double, anyway, would be even more than that, if I had the room ... I'm confident a 'full-size' plant could easily be grown indoors with sufficient space, in hydro ... I let her go too large in veg-stage, and then fought to hold her down, the entire grow ... next time, I predict my 'vegging' period will be 4 weeks or less, instead of my usual '8-weeks vegging' in soil ... and, I suspect the extra 2 weeks flowering may be due to the unusually cool temps ... one interesting note, she still had NO yellowing bottom leaves, even by harvest time ... my best guess, is that the hydro didn't hinder nutrient uptake like the final days of soil grows ... ???, just a guess ... time-wise, hydro only adds 10 minutes a day to my usual growing efforts, EXCEPT, I have to be here for it ... soil lets me go camping, etc for 3-4 days at a time ... hopefully, the addition of 3-4 more gallons of reservoir capacity, plus the existing 4 gallons, will allow me to go play in the woods with Bigfoot this Spring (hey, she gets lonely, too ;)) ... :jointsmile:

[Treetops]

Nice harvest...Looks great Reaper for your first hydro run...Congrats!!

Peace,
Treetops :thumbsup:

[MVP]

Congrats on making it thru your 1st hydro! Room temps (IMHO) had a great deal to do with it. Also an inexpensive res. heater (Wally World, less than 10 bucks) will help a lot too if the res goes below 65 F makes a huge difference. I hope you still hang here, if not let me know where you end up.... Again, CONGRATS!!!!

MVP :jointsmile: