Should I Flower or Wait?

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

These are recent pics,

My babies are 31 days old, and growing under 24/0 600w plus a 175w Mh lights. 10 are w/w, 5 are mystery seed that came with the w/w. 3 of those are sativa dominant looking and acting to me.

I have been doing LST to keep the canopy around 6" above the soil. I fed them 24/20/20 nutes in 5.5ph water last night.

The main stems are 3/8" to 1/2" diameter

As you can see I am running out of horizontal space.

Should I veg and let them go vertical for a week or start Flowering now?

And what can I do to get the 3 runts in the middle catch up? They have been that way since germination (last to sprout)

[GaGrown]

Beautiful!!!!!!!!!! I would start to flower them after they have reached 10-12 inches tall. They do look nice and bushy!

Ga Grown!

[Doc 007]

Looking good JG. Maybe put the runt pails on a riser to they get a little more light that the big sisters.

[spongebobsmokepants]

I like to flower my girls when they are 6" tall. Makes for smaller yields, but a quicker turnover. It is a matter of choice. Remember that the plants will still stretch after going 12/12

[Mr. Clandestine]

Those plants look very healthy & happy from what I can see! They look to be growing in 5gal. buckets (?) and so I'd let them grow if you have the space. You should be able to pick out male preflowers earlier than the ladies, and can thin out the garden out then a good bit then...if you haven't done so already. But especially with lst and plenty of room for roots to grow, I'd try to grow some monsters and maximize the yield!

...and the runts in the middle could possibly double/triple in size during flowering, and outgrow the other 'vigorous' plants that you've been paying special attention to. I've seen it happen, and was pretty blown away.

[Dutch Pimp]

Do root systems basicly quit growing (expanding); during the flower cycle? Soil grows ONLY.

Asking?: does the root system mostly form during the veg cycle?...which would mean, it be a waste of time to transplant to a larger pot...after flowering cycle has started?

Opinions requested. Bottomline, veg longer, more roots=bigger plants?...more yield?

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

I have a good question.

Would it be ok to go to from 24/0 to 18/6 and let them pre-flower and stay at 18/6 for 2 weeks then 12/12?

Just an Idea.

[Gundari]

plants will stretch like CRAZY the first week or two flowering. Im on my first grow right now and tomorrow my plant will have 1 week of flower under their belt and the amount of stretching she's done already has me in shock. Im even starting to get worried that she's gonna get too tall for her cabinet.

[spongebobsmokepants]

I have a good question.

Would it be ok to go to from 24/0 to 18/6 and let them pre-flower and stay at 18/6 for 2 weeks then 12/12?

Just an Idea.
18/6 is still vegging. You will not develop flowers until you switch to 12/12, or you plant matures.

[spongebobsmokepants]

Do root systems basicly quit growing (expanding); during the flower cycle? Soil grows ONLY.

Asking?: does the root system mostly form during the veg cycle?...which would mean, it be a waste of time to transplant to a larger pot...after flowering cycle has started?

Opinions requested. Bottomline, veg longer, more roots=bigger plants?...more yield?
The roots will continue to grow until the plant is finished. Remember that as long as the plant is getting bigger, so are the roots.

[growbe]

Are you growing in dirt or a soiless mix? If dirt then raise your ph.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

I'm groing in soil, the ph in the soil was getting up to 7 so I did that to drop it down, I am using miracle grow moisture control w/ 2 cups of vermaculite per bucket, it is pre nuted soil so I have to watch the ph carfully.

[M.B.A.]

keep veg'n

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Looks like the consenses is let them VEG.

I am going to let them go until Friday then check to see where I am at

Thank for all the advice.

[wineland]

my grow box is 4' tall and I waited until my ladies were about 2' before changing the lighting to flower. The amount of growth during the first couple weeks of flowering so far has been nuts!
I've had to raise the lights almost every day.

[JerzeeAmbeez]

Well just remeber that they should "double" in height when you cut to 12/12
so keep track of them and the amount of space that you have... but they look so good! Great job!

[Charles U Farley]

I must say that your plants look very healthy and happy,well done.I always like to veg mine for as long as I can and set up my rotation so that every group that gets moved into the flowering room has about 2 1/2 to 3 months of veg.Makes for a very crowded room (both vertically and horizontally) but I like having few plants with bigger yields.Good luck with with your plants,keep us posted.Take care,be well,and most of all be safe.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Yeh!!!

I found a local hydo store that has clonning supplies.

So It is going to be VEG AWAY!!!

I did end up breaking 2 stems during LST but had no supplies or knowledge of clonning, but in my hast and info from a clonning thred I was able to try and save them. I put rooting powder on the base after preping the end I then placed them in jiffy cubes and covered with a large salad container from a salad bar. I did not expect them to make it but they did!!! one is female the other male, but I don't know which is which inside the grow box.

So now the plan is to veg away while I take cuttings tonight and carfully lable each. I will then sex them while rooting. I will then remove the males and continue to veg till the box is full again and veg the female clones till the first crop is done

Except now I need to build a veg box and buy a light. I doubt 175w MH will do for veging if I want to grow trees.