First closet set up ! Need advice !

[DreamerGirl7]

Soon i will have some pics but for now ... zero :wtf:

Dimensions : L : 120 cm . D : 60 cm and W : 160 cm .
What do you thing ? How much plants can i putt in under this light ?

Light installed : 4 flu tubes 18 W, 1050 lumen each .
3 CF Phillips 24 W , 1500 lumen each .
Do i need more light for normal grow and harvest ?

Air circulation : 4 zalman vent => 120 mm .

Say people what you have to say ! ;) My English sucks , have
mercy :jointsmile::jointsmile:

Thanks !

[DreamerGirl7]

Can anyone help me or nobody now how ? ? :rastasmoke:

[Roughrider]

You've got about .75 square meters of grow space. (I guess/hope that the 160 cm is your closet height.) If you have enough light and start flowering (switching to 12 hours on/off lighting) when your plants are about 32-40 cm high, you'll end up with good sized plants that will fit into 12 liter pots...the ones that are about 25-30 cm in diameter. You should be able to fit 6 to 8 full size plants in pots that size in your grow space. (For our non-metric friends, her grow space is just a little under 4' x 2')

But you need a LOT more lights. Lights are all about lumens, not watts. You need at least 25,000 lumens per square meter; 45,000 is much better. Right now, you have about 8700. If you have good enough ventilation, you could solve everything with a 400w HPS light...that will give you about 50,000 lumens, enough to do great in that room. A 250w HPS will give you around 25,000 lumens which, combined with the flourescent lights you have, would do quite well for you.

I wouldn't use just flourescent lights in the area you describe...it's awfully large. Most CFL grows are in places of less than .3 or .4 of a square meter. If you do want to use just flouros, think about cutting your grow space in half to 60cm x 60cm. That's still enough room to veg a lot of plants and to flower 3 or 4.

[DreamerGirl7]

Thanks :)

But the problem is that i cant find HPS or MH in any store in Croatia . So i buy this fluo and cfl-s ! They the best light that i find . What is the best choice if i cant find hps or mh ? ?

I will upload some pics how my little honey :D grow under this lights ! I now i need more light but....something will grow ! ( I hope :rasta: )

Comment and leave advice if possible !:rastasmoke:

[DreamerGirl7]

Ok. here is some pics ! what du u think ? ? :smokin:

[wman44]

if you can find an outdoor security light at a home improvement store it can be turned into a grow light.
they are usually 100watt or 150 watt hps
you'll have to take it apart and take the light sensor out of it. its pretty basic electrical stuff and you can find instructions on how it do it online if you look.
they cost about $70 in the U.S.

[DreamerGirl7]

I've just cuted pair of the smallest leafs . Here pics of them . What is the problem with them ? :mad:

Will this "shit" spread on oder leafs ?

Advice or solution for this problem appreciated . :smokin:

Thanks ! :thumbsup:

[PharmaCan]

DreamerGirl7 - First of all, welcome to CanCom! How cool to have someone from Croatia. ;)

Overall, your plants look pretty darn good. :thumbsup: You should put these photos down in the "Plant Problems" section and see what the experts have to say. There's a questionaire sticky at the top of the Plant Problems page. If you provide all the requested information, you'll get some real good advice.

PC :smokin:

[DreamerGirl7]

Ok....its been some time since last time i updated pics of my ganja...so here they are ! :jointsmile:

I think . . hmm ... I now that these are nice under 9000 lumens !

Or not ? What do you think ? :wtf:

Comment appreciated ! :jointsmile:

Enjoy ! Peace ! :stoned:

[DreamerGirl7]

Yesterday i finally found HPS 400 w in Croatia ! :thumbsup:

My box dimensions : 120 x 60 x 160 cm !!

Now i have 47 000 lumen's just with hps + 9000 lumen's of fluo lights

Very Nice for this space ! ! :thumbsup:

But. . . on which distance is best to keep my plants and hps 400 ? ? Thanks !! !! :rastasmoke:

[twitch]

did the leaf problem go away?(looks like it) they look good how long have they been in veg?
you might need to put the one that has 2 in it in a bigger pot cuz i think its to late to pull them apart(but i could be looking at it wrong) keep us up dated look at mine (my grow) i was growing 4 then only one was female.. any sex yet? and what kind of seeds?

sorry so many questions

[DreamerGirl7]

Jes, it is ... theres just one leaf with the same problem but it present no problem to me ;)

Hmmm . . tell me ... when do they go in veg ? ? Ive been reading some literature but isn't explained very well .

No sex yet ! It past only 8 ours since they been under hps system !

Soon i will see some since of sex ! hehe :thumbsup:

Seeds i picked from good weed . Thats all . For my second grow i will order some good feminized seeds ! :jointsmile:

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

The best way to determine distance from light to plant is to hold the back of your hand to the to the light starting at about 25cm then slowly lower your hand until you don't feel the radiated heat. Note that distance and that distance is your light to plant distance. Maintain that distance for your entire grow.

[DreamerGirl7]

I now this easy method , but not the best one !

I did that with my fluo ! I didn't feel the heat on my hand, but the leafs start to be yellowish on the edges (heat stress !!) and then i
pull the lights up and everything was ok ! ;)

But . . thanks for advice ! :jointsmile:

Peace !

[twitch]

they are in veg, it depends on the lights 24 or 6/18 is vegging when ever u put it on 12/12 it will induce flowering... you could put them in flowering now if you want or if you want them to get bigger just keep them in veg

[DreamerGirl7]

I know that :)

Do you maybe know, when i put 12/12 , ho much do they grow in height => how many centimeters they grow in complete flowering
stage ? ?

Peace ! :stoned:

[DreamerGirl7]

Here some pics of my equipment . . . I'm bored :wtf:

First picture : Switches for my vent system . So i can turn them on/off on by one ( as i need ) ! ;)

Second picture : PC Zalman vent 120 mm ( from outside ) .

Third : PC Zalman vent 120 mm (from inside ) .

Fourth : 4 fluo tubes on chains , 4200 lumen's !

Fifth : 3 CFL , 4500 lumen's .

[DreamerGirl7]

And here is Philips HPS 400 w !

[DreamerGirl7]

Hehe . . . i forgot the picture . . :stoned:

[Roughrider]

I know that :)

Do you maybe know, when i put 12/12 , ho much do they grow in height => how many centimeters they grow in complete flowering
stage ? ?

Peace ! :stoned:

Your plants look good! :thumbsup:

The plants will double in size at least when you flower, maybe even triple. And since you'll want to keep the light at least 30cm away from your plant tops, that means you probably don't want you plants to be taller than 90-100cm (that's adding in 30cm for the pots you've got then planted in).

I'd say you should flower (switch to 12/12) when your plants are around 30cm high. If they get to be more than 45cm, they could outgrow your cabinet!

[DreamerGirl7]

Thanks Roughrider !! Thats was very very helpfully ! ;)

You should reply to my questions more often ! :thumbsup: !

[DreamerGirl7]

My plants was in veg for one howl month and thanks to Roughrider i realize that they should be in flowering by now because they are 55 cm tall .

So today i did this ( pictures ) ! ! LST .

I'm thinking tomorrow to go on 12/12 when they recover from stress .... !

Was this good move or i fuck it up ? ? ?

Comment and direct me to the right path ! Hihi .. :rasta:

Thanks, peace ! ! :thumbsup:

[twitch]

they look great they should be good u have that hps now so they will recover faster but as soon as they do put them in flower

you going to have some nice lil bushes

[DreamerGirl7]

I hope so twitch ! ! :D

If they are female i will have normal harvest .

When i see sings of sex , i will upload pictures !

Peace ! ! :rasta:

[DreamerGirl7]

My HPS is connected with oder fluo lights on a timer . Timer is set on 12/12 . When the lights need to turn off , it's done properly.

when they need to go on..... fluo lights turn on, but hps stays off !! :mad:

Does someone have or had same or similar problem ? ? ?

[PharmaCan]

If you want to troubleshoot your problem, more information is needed.

Please explain the exact sequence of how the electrical is run, starting with your timer. (does the timer have two outlets, or do you go from the timer to a power strip then to the lamps? I don't need to know the minute details, just what goes where. Then I can walk you through a couple steps and we can probably locate your problem.

First things first though - you should take your electrical switches, power strip etc and move them up and off the floor. Otherwise, first time you spill some water you can easily damage your electrical stuff.

PC :smokin:

[misslilly]

Hey DreamerGirl7, Plants look nice. I noticed in your photo's that there were no reflectors on your light's. From what i've read your losing alot of light by not reflecting the light off the top of the bulb back down to the plant's. You could make some homemade ones if you can't find them where you are, it would be better than nothing. I don't know how big your CFL's are but I saw somewhere on the web how to make them for smaller bulb's out of alum. cans. I'm just a beginner is this also, Isn't if fun? Nothing like having stuff you grew yourself.

[DreamerGirl7]

Hey DreamerGirl7, Plants look nice. I noticed in your photo's that there were no reflectors on your light's. From what i've read your losing alot of light by not reflecting the light off the top of the bulb back down to the plant's. You could make some homemade ones if you can't find them where you are, it would be better than nothing. I don't know how big your CFL's are but I saw somewhere on the web how to make them for smaller bulb's out of alum. cans. I'm just a beginner is this also, Isn't if fun? Nothing like having stuff you grew yourself.

You have a point ! :thumbsup:

I now that .... but i also think that the light reflect itself from top of my box ! ;) Maybe a little less then with reflector .... it's present no problem . ;) Thanks for comment ! :D

[DreamerGirl7]

If you want to troubleshoot your problem, more information is needed.

Please explain the exact sequence of how the electrical is run, starting with your timer. (does the timer have two outlets, or do you go from the timer to a power strip then to the lamps? I don't need to know the minute details, just what goes where. Then I can walk you through a couple steps and we can probably locate your problem.

First things first though - you should take your electrical switches, power strip etc and move them up and off the floor. Otherwise, first time you spill some water you can easily damage your electrical stuff.

PC :smokin:
it goes like this ...

Timer is connected on power strip along with ventilators => timer goes on outlet and he have one outlet and from that outlet goes cable that connect him (timer ) and ALL lights ! Pictures !

[PharmaCan]

First of all, take the cord to your power strip out from under the cabinet. This has nothing to do with your problem, but that is a bad place for it.

What you should do is go from your timer to a new power strip then put plug ends on the cords for both of your lights and plug both your lights into the power strip. Can you get another power strip and one more cord end (plug)?

With everything the way it is now, are you able to turn the 400w light on at all?

PC :smokin:

[DreamerGirl7]

I can get power corn and plug ... no problem :) Ok, i will do that ....from timer to another power strip . Can this solve my problem ? ?

I can turn it on when i touch the bulb ! Silly but truly ! ;)

[PharmaCan]

I can get power corn and plug ... no problem :) Ok, i will do that ....from timer to another power strip . Can this solve my problem ? ?



Maybe yes, maybe no. When diagnosing an electrical problem, the first thing to do is to make sure that you have good connections.


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I can turn it on when i touch the bulb ! Silly but truly ! ;)

This explains everything - it's a male bulb. (my "bulb" has the same reaction when my wife touches it.) Maybe if you hang a naked photo of yourself next to the light, it will turn itself on when you're not around. :D

PC :smokin:

[twitch]

hahaha that was pretty good

[DreamerGirl7]

PharmaCan => Thanks for advices . I will try something out . If anything that i try not solve my problem , will be in touch :thumbsup:

[DreamerGirl7]

Is this male or what ? ? ;)

Motherfucker ! ! :stoned:

[PharmaCan]

Is this male or what ? ? ;)

Motherfucker ! ! :stoned:

Yes, that's a boy. ...but you have other plants, don't you?

What's happening with your light? Did you get it working ok?

I was thinking about your light and your grow set-up. You really need to do something to get the lamp heat out of your grow area and to allow your plants to grow closer to your lights without getting burned. Here are a couple of links for home-made (DIY - Do It Yourself) cool tubes.

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/59042-diy-pyrex-bake-round-cool-tube.html

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/38520-homemade-1000w-cool-tube.html

A cool tube doesn't need to be nearly as sophisticated or complicated as one might think and it would sure help in your small space.

PC :smokin:

[DreamerGirl7]

I planted 4 seeds ! One is male others are female :thumbsup:

Now its working fine ! So far so good ! ;) Btw . . thanks !

I was planing of buying a cool tube for my second grow ! But if i can make it now .... that will be more then awesome ! :D

[twitch]

i had 4 and 1 turned female

[DreamerGirl7]

i had 4 and 1 turned female

Hehe . . . twitch, next time buy feminized seeds ! :rastasmoke:

[twitch]

i dont buy seeds i use what friends give me
bag seed and my stuff still looks bomb
i wouldnt even know where to get them

[DreamerGirl7]

for your next grow try to plant more seeds ( 8 or 10) and try early sexing ! !

[twitch]

yea there are alot of things i ma going to try different this was the grow to work out all the bugs and what not so that i knew exactly how it was going to work and what not
for ur first grow to it looks like u got the bugs worked out a lil earlier
you have any buds yet??

[DreamerGirl7]

Not yet ! My plants are on 12/12 for just one week !

[50ul }{4ck3r]

that is a true true Male There...kill it or use to breed seeds...IMO

[DreamerGirl7]

Here are new pictures ! Comment appreciated ! They are for one week on 12/12 !

Peace ! :rastasmoke:

[DreamerGirl7]

that is a true true Male There...kill it or use to breed seeds...IMO

I already kill "him" when i took the pictures ! :D

[twitch]

looking good

[50ul }{4ck3r]

looking GOOD MY FRIEND...NICE AND GREEN IS THE WAY TO GO!!!!

dam it did not know i was using caps and yelling SORRY...to drunk to retype it

[DreamerGirl7]

Does someone now how to now PH without PH meter ?

Some other method and how to use it ?
If possibly step by step or link where i can read it !

Thanks everyone ! :thumbsup:

[DreamerGirl7]

Does someone now how to now PH without PH meter ?

Some other method and how to use it ?
If possibly step by step or link where i can read it !

Thanks everyone ! :thumbsup:

Don't bother to answer this ! Stupid question and top of all i now the answer ! i was little stoned ! :stoned: Just ignore it !

[50ul }{4ck3r]

LMMFAO thats why i did not respond girl!!!!

[misslilly]

Maybe this would also be a stupid reply DreamerGirl7 since you don't want an answer. But would just like to throw this in. Before I got a meter ($15.00 US plus shipping for a used one on E-bay) I used the test strips and also the liquid where you put a sample in a little bottle. The one where you use the little bottle was so much easier to read IMO. The color change for the different levels were much more drastic. IMO the test strips sucked, to hard to read and therefore useless to me.:joint1:

[DreamerGirl7]

thanks misslilly for reply ! it's not a stuped one :thumbsup:

[DreamerGirl7]

Hello everyone ! New pics of my plants, 10 days in flowering ! :jointsmile:

Any Comments ?:wtf:

Peace ! :rastasmoke:

[50ul }{4ck3r]

Looking good!!!! Great Job

[twitch]

looks real good just wait those nugs are going to turn in to monsters

[DreamerGirl7]

hmmm . . . i think it's a hermi ! :mad:

I'm not 100% positive so let me know what you think !

Peace !

[twitch]

it kinda looks like clusters i cant see any white hairs.... but that defiantly looks like ball clusters to me..... sorry

[sociobud]

Ya, I think it may not be female. I don't see any white hairs either. Bugger! :(

[DreamerGirl7]

Hehe . . . 4 seeds planted ! One was male and 2 hermis !

What can I say :wtf:

I'm left with one nice plant .. .. In couple of days I will upload some new pictures ! :D

Peace ! :rastasmoke:

[twitch]

i got 3 males and 1 female just clipped it down too

[50ul }{4ck3r]

New Pix NOW!!!!

[sociobud]

Hey, 1 female plant is better then no female plants! We want to see new pics!!

[DreamerGirl7]

Patience, my friends ! :jointsmile:

Today i'm going on a trip for couple of days . . . so when i get back , i will upload new pics !

peace and nice growing :clap: :smokin:

[DreamerGirl7]

Well . . . trip is canceled !:wtf:

So . . here new pics !

Comment appreciated ! peace ! :rastasmoke:

[twitch]

they look amazing, it looks good keep us up dated... this is picture time i have like 10 pics of my plant from day 1 till 2 weeks into flowering from then on i have like 100 pics of one plant...lol i have a problem

[sociobud]

Is this just one plant? Your remaining female plant? Regardless, those pics are beautiful. Nice white hairs. Looking good. Grow baby, grow!

[DreamerGirl7]

Is this just one plant? Your remaining female plant? Regardless, those pics are beautiful. Nice white hairs. Looking good. Grow baby, grow!

Yes ! My remaining one female plant .

[DreamerGirl7]

Thanks for comments ! :jointsmile:

[50ul }{4ck3r]

one female....dam...least u got one!!!yay

[twitch]

you will still have a nice grow

[ossian]

shame about the others but that girl looks great :) keep it up

[DreamerGirl7]

hmmm . . . one theoretic , maybe silly question for those who now the answer :rasta: !

Example : my plant is in flowering stage ... ! I did determinate

that plant is female ! Can she in the middle of flowering become

hermi ? ? If the dark period is interrupted for few days !

Hardly wait for answers ! :rastasmoke:

Peace ! :thumbsup:

[PharmaCan]

The plant can hermie during flower for any number of reasons. Interrupting the dark cycle for a couple of days could do it.

PC :smokin:

[sociobud]

How's the girl????????

[DreamerGirl7]

Hellllooooooooo !!!!! :jointsmile:

I didn't write any new posts for like 2 weeks .... :cool:

I was on vacation in Germany so ....

But here are pictures of my Deya ! ! Today is 45th day of flowering...:thumbsup:

Well . . . . enjoy in pictures . comment appreciated like always:D

Peace ! P.S. Happy new growing year ! :rastasmoke:

[DreamerGirl7]

more pics :stoned:

[sociobud]

looking good!

[twitch]

looking nice how long it been in flower

[FearOfSuccess]

Dreamer,

Those are looking mighty tasty. (lickin' my lips.)

[DustinA420]

:jointsmile:WOW they are lookin very very good cangrats hope its a good smoke:rasta:

[DreamerGirl7]

well thanks everyone ! :thumbsup:

soon is harvest ! :))

they are now 50 days in flowering .

[sociobud]

What's going on? Did you harvest? Update please!!

[twitch]

lol yea

[basementbotany]

She harvested................got friggin' baked, and forgot to report back! Lightweight! lol, just kiddin;). looks good up until the point you quit posting:thumbsup:

[DreamerGirl7]

I just forgot to post the harvest ....sorry guys ....

but u got nothing special to see :P

I was down on one plant and she gave me like

30 grams :)

The high was amazinggggg.... don't know how to explain ...

head high but i was also stoned :))

I don't have all the pictures ...i have only half plant harvest :P

Peace ! :rasta:

[twitch]

it is very sexy