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pisshead
11-10-2007, 05:33 AM
it will be funny to watch the neo-cons complain about the democrats doing the same thing they didn't give a shit about the republicans doing...

it would be funny, if it didn't mean they were turning the country into a third world dictatorship and inflating the currency into worthlessness...

Pelosi and the Democrats Sell Out the American Worker (Again) Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet (http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html)
Friday November 9, 2007

On October 31, Jim Hoffa, president of the Teamsters, offered his incredulity over the so-called Peru Free Trade Agreement, passed the House a few days later: ??I??m astounded that members of Congress would even consider passing more of these free trade agreements that workers hate.?
Mr. Hoffa should understand by now that Congress is no friend of workers. Congress is a whorehouse long ago sold out to corporate interests. It acts as a rubber stamp factory for the globalist agenda. Even so, a sizeable number of Democrats voted against the ??free trade???as in unhindered looting and pillaging??bill, understanding well enough the possible wrath of voters, or at least the minority paying attention.
??While the deal was easily approved in a 285-132 vote, more Democrats voted against the deal than supported it. Despite backing from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and other Democratic leaders, 116 Democrats voted against the deal while 109 Democrats supported it. Eight Democrats did not cast votes,? reports Ian Swanson, writing for the Hill.

Most of the freshman class that provided the Democrats with their majority also voted against the deal. Thirty freshman Democrats, including Reps. Niki Tsongas (D-Mass.) and Laura Richardson (D-Calif.), who joined the House after this Congress began, voted against the Peru deal. Eleven freshman Democrats supported it, while two freshman Democrats did not vote.
Republicans were much more unified in supporting the Peru agreement. Only 16 Republicans voted against it, while 176 voted to approve it. The deal now goes to the Senate, which is expected to approve it.
Some business sources said they were encouraged that more than 100 House Democrats did support the Peru deal.
Obviously, the so-called ??freshman class? want to be around after the next election cycle, less than a year away, and that??s why they voted against the bill, for all the good it did. Some of them, as well, may actually care about the fate of workers, now sealed.
??Has the Democratic Party gone soft on trade? Or has it opened a bitter internal split that could come back to haunt the party in the coming elections?? asked the New York Times. ??The Peru deal was approved by an overwhelming vote of 285 in favor to 132 against. But its most striking aspect was that 109 Democrats voted yes and 116 voted no, reopening the fissure that developed during the Clinton administration, when much of the party bucked President Bill Clinton as he pressed for the North American Free Trade Agreement and liberalizing trade with China.?
In other words, at least some Democrats understood the obvious: NAFTA and ??liberalized? (as in neoliberalism) trade with the massive slave plantation China would result in an egregious loss of American jobs. But then the neoliberal agenda is all about ??leveling the playing field,? that is to say impoverishing the average American who has, according to our globalist rulers, had it too good for too long.
As noted by the Teamsters, the Peru Free Trade Agreement, based on ??the job-killing NAFTA model,? will accomplish the following:
Foreign investors based in Peru will have the right to question our domestic laws and receive compensation if such laws if they undermine corporate profits.
Incentives are provided for U.S. companies to leave the U.S. under the investment chapter of the agreement.
The sovereignty of local, state and federal U.S. government bodies will be undermined. Foreign companies will be able to bypass ??Buy America? laws.
For workers in Peru, the prospect is even more dismal:
Nothing will change for the 33,000 slave-laborers cutting down the Amazonian rainforest.
Subsistence farmers will be forced off their land because cheap U.S. food produced by agribusiness will undercut their prices. The same thing happened with NAFTA, which resulted in millions of poor Mexicans leaving their farms.
According to some interpretations, Citibank will have the right to sue the Peruvian government if the country tries to reverse its disastrous system of privatized Social Security ?? thus allowing a powerful multinational to profit at the expense of the elderly, the sick and the poor.
Of course, it is not a coincidence many of those ??poor Mexicans leaving their farms? are trekking northward to displace American workers.
It??s all part of the globalist plan to turn the planet into a fascist corporate slave plantation.
You??d think Democrats would be calling for Pelosi??s head. But they are not. In fact, come November, many of them will be voting for the Bilderberg Queen Hillary in the Great Horse Race known as the American election cycle.
??Reuters is reporting that Clinton says she will vote for the Peru Free Trade Agreement??the first agreement in a package of corporate-crafted agreements to vastly expand the NAFTA trade model,? David Sirota wrote for the Huffington Post yesterday. ??The announcement, which flies in the face of polls showing the public strongly opposed to NAFTA-style trade policies, comes on the same day the New York Times reports that Clinton is being endorsed by NAFTA architect Robert Rubin, the CEO of Citigroup - a company that stands to reap financial rewards from the NAFTA model. Rubin??s announcement came with a promise to raise Clinton more money from Wall Street.?
But of course.

the image reaper
11-10-2007, 01:19 PM
just more proof neither party is worth a damn ... whether Republican or Democrat, they're lying bastards just in politics to enrich themselves ... I'll change all that when I become Emperor :jointsmile:

Rustymetal
11-10-2007, 03:53 PM
The state of US politics are pretty pathetic at the moment. The difference between the Democrats and Republicans is almost gone. They both are focused more on their wallets then the American people.

I mean, look at the impeachment resolution by Kusinich. The republicans voted to debate it; basically daring the democrats to vote for open debate. Too bad the democrats couldn't find their balls and send it away to be buried into a committee.

Gandalf_The_Grey
11-10-2007, 07:11 PM
Hey Pisshead, sorry to go off-topic for a moment, but have you heard of this fellow Michael Tsarian? He's a proponent of Alex Jones' work. (I'm not personally,I think Alex Jones is hit-and-miss, but overal he makes some excellent commentary that needs to be heard).


I just watched a 3 1/2 hour lecture by Tsarian, it was quite enlightening. The guy has some pretty kookie out-there theories, but I haven't read his books/heard his full arguments on the matters so I can't justifiably declare them "wrong" either.

Anyway, his philosophies on the human mind and why the world is in the shape it is, were IMO just incredible. I think he made some excellent arguments on why we do some of the terrible things we do, why some descend to mental illness, and why most can't escapse and stop creating their own suffering. I don't know if you're so philisopically-minded or just into the politics, but I think it's really worth checking out.

If you're interested, check out the following video. I'd say the really important stuff is at 2 hours 25 minutes. You'll have to pause and walk away for a good while to buffer of course.

2012 - The Future of Mankind (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8545585184878490822&q=2012&total=7914&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)

killerweed420
11-10-2007, 08:04 PM
This is just another example of why we need term limits in the house and senate.Looks like the freshmen are making an attempt at change but with all the old bastards in there its tough.

epxroot
11-10-2007, 09:36 PM
Hey Pisshead, sorry to go off-topic for a moment, but have you heard of this fellow Michael Tsarian? He's a proponent of Alex Jones' work. (I'm not personally,I think Alex Jones is hit-and-miss, but overal he makes some excellent commentary that needs to be heard).


I just watched a 3 1/2 hour lecture by Tsarian, it was quite enlightening. The guy has some pretty kookie out-there theories, but I haven't read his books/heard his full arguments on the matters so I can't justifiably declare them "wrong" either.

Anyway, his philosophies on the human mind and why the world is in the shape it is, were IMO just incredible. I think he made some excellent arguments on why we do some of the terrible things we do, why some descend to mental illness, and why most can't escapse and stop creating their own suffering. I don't know if you're so philisopically-minded or just into the politics, but I think it's really worth checking out.

If you're interested, check out the following video. I'd say the really important stuff is at 2 hours 25 minutes. You'll have to pause and walk away for a good while to buffer of course.

2012 - The Future of Mankind (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8545585184878490822&q=2012&total=7914&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)

I have seen this lecture, and you are right he does give some interesting ideas to think about! I thought it was a good lecture personally.