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Budexpress
11-07-2007, 02:12 AM
Growing in attic with 800-1000 watt HPS. What can happen? Helicopter FLIR....

In the US by the way.

SpaceNeedle
11-07-2007, 03:39 AM
I'd worry more about the temperature variations up there than that!

Doc 007
11-07-2007, 06:04 AM
If you have cops scanning your house with helicopters then you are already under investigation.

Most of that crap is Urban Legend that The Man is oh so happy to have you believe.

PharmaCan
11-07-2007, 06:39 AM
The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that police cannot scan your house without a search warrant. If they had a search warrant, they would come in through the front door.

PC :smokin:

Jerry Garcia 2007
11-07-2007, 03:47 PM
Pharmacam,

I never knew the court ruled on that, good to know we still have some rights left. I do know they can go thru your trash without a warrent though.

Doc 007
11-07-2007, 03:52 PM
Pharmacam,

I never knew the court ruled on that, good to know we still have some rights left. I do know they can go thru your trash without a warrent though.

Not till it's in the truck. :)

Knowing what your throw out is a good security policy and a lot of privacy can be restored by removing labels and composting green waste.

/me sets mode -tangent

Jerry Garcia 2007
11-07-2007, 04:09 PM
You sure? I thought it was when you put it at the curb or in a dumpster.

Anyone know the correct answer to this?

Doc 007
11-07-2007, 04:30 PM
You sure? I thought it was when you put it at the curb or in a dumpster.

Anyone know the correct answer to this?

The correct answer is to not toss shit in the trash that you are worried about someone seeing.

:)

I am sure it depends on if it's in a can, or a bag or in city owned cans, or whatever.

I would default to the first part.

The supreme court actually rulled in a California case that it IS when it hits the curb in a bag. Alaska disagrees.

Google knows tons more.

Privacy Law in the USA (http://www.rbs2.com/privacy.htm)

FlyGuyOU
11-07-2007, 04:53 PM
if you put your trash on the side of the curb anyone can look through it. Out in Tuscan a bunch of anthropologists are doing this thing called the Garbage Project where they go around and collect peoples trash and look at it to see what it says about society....really interesting shit

anyways when we were discussing this stuff in class I was told that once you take your trash outside it becomes public domain due to the fact that most people do not have a personal relationship with their trash collectors, they are essientally strangers. And 'parently if you allow strangers to remove your trash then you have no qualms with the 5-0 going through it.

Jerry Garcia 2007
11-07-2007, 05:16 PM
I agree with doc, don't put anything in the trash you dont want someone to see. I take all my prunnings and put them in the garbage disposal, due to I don't have a composter.

indicagrower
11-07-2007, 05:32 PM
don't put that down your disposal.. unless your plumber is cool

where i live my trash stay's on my property untill the trash man comes(a guy i smoke with anyways) once it hits the truck and they smash it then it's mixed with everyone elses trash

Jerry Garcia 2007
11-07-2007, 06:51 PM
I am the plumber at my house, I have access to a snake at work. I do put it in slowly not all at once, then I follow up with lime juice to kill the smell and help break it down faster.

yokinazu
11-07-2007, 07:16 PM
as with most laws concerning public domain it is up to the state in wich you live. in some states since that little strip of grass on the curb is your property, no its not public domain. but most places agree that once its on the curb it fair game. so never ever put anything incriminating in your garbage.

800- 1000 watts? that sounds pretty hot and i would be more conerned with the heat. especlly bein in the attic. my water lines to my kitchen sink run thru my attic and my cold water comes out just as hot as my hot water in the summer.

even though they say a search warrant is needed, if they fly over and "accidently" look at your house im sure they could find a way to get a warrent.

when farming you can never be too careful

CannabisCarl2134
11-07-2007, 07:22 PM
Here in Oregon, Its legally still your trash up until the point they drive away with it in the back of their truck.

As for the Lame ass cops, don't worry. If you don't have any warrants, or a reason for them to be looking at your house , and don't give them one. You sir are "Gold!".

I would suggest not telling many people, like 0.

PharmaCan
11-07-2007, 08:15 PM
I think the searching trash cans issue has more to do with "expectation of privacy" than anything else. If your trash cans are in your yard, you have an expectation of privacy. If they are out on the street, you have no expectation of privacy, regardless of who owns the land the trash can is sitting on.

PC :smokin:

mushaboom
11-07-2007, 09:30 PM
with the patriot act still in effect, i think anything goes unfortunately. if the man wants you bad enough he doesnt need warrants or permission, and you can thank george bush for extending that. :( oh george, what have you done?!