Does using a bong waste weed?`

[JstUseDaBong]

Last night my buddy bought a few grams of some nice bud and we were ripping a bubbler. After awhile my other buddy busted out a bong and we were going to smoke out of it but someone said it wasted weed so we didnt. I dont understand why it would, THC isnt water soluble so the water wouldnt affect it IMO but i was way to stoned to bring the issue up :jointsmile:

[TX Girl]

I can pack the sloppiest bong bowl and take silly hits on purpose and not waste as much smoke as a (single person hitting it) joint so i vote no, bongs arent wasteful

[dejayou30]

I think the whole "water takes THC out of the smoke thing" is a wives tale. If it was true, no one would use bongs. Maybe they meant it wastes weed because you are burning more of the bowl per hit in comparison with a pipe? But I don't believe in water taking any THC out.

[LaZ]

The order from least wasting methods (according to NORML):

1. Joints
2. Pipes
3. Bong/Bubblers (as being the most wasting method, due some THC being lost in the water and sides of the chamber)

But for me it doesn't matter. It's really low amounts of THC I figure and it's all based on what you feel better smoking. So they all do the job.

[Reefer Rogue]

Okay, do bongs waste weed?

No...

Have you ever smoked a bong?

They get you HIGH

Therefore, whatever thc is 'lost' is SO miniscule it's absurd to imply that bongs are ineffective and wasteful. I don't give a fuck what NORML says, I know what I say, I know what my bong says. Joints waste more then anything. They need more weed to make a joint... The joint is constantly burning, thus you are losing thc. Sideburns... A bong takes less weed so it's not as wasteful as a joint. Perhaps a pipe is more efficient then all, HOWEVER, it's harsh as hell and not worth it, you wouldn't get that much higher from a pipe then a bong. If you smoke 0.3 in a pipe and 0.3 in a bong, it's the same.

[jsn9333]

Last night my buddy bought a few grams of some nice bud and we were ripping a bubbler. After awhile my other buddy busted out a bong and we were going to smoke out of it but someone said it wasted weed so we didnt. I dont understand why it would, THC isnt water soluble so the water wouldnt affect it IMO but i was way to stoned to bring the issue up :jointsmile:

Here is a study on this topic by NORML:
MAPS/CaNORML vaporizer and waterpipe studies (http://www.maps.org/mmj/vaporizer.html)

NORML and MAPS procured the services of a high tech lab to measure the tar and THC content in water bong smoke as compared to regularly burning weed. Basically, with water filtration, you have to inhale more tar (plus burn more weed) to get the same amount of THC. Neither THC nor tar is water soluble, but both stick to water. In fact, THC and the sticky cannabinoids it resides in sticks to water even moreso then tar does. This study found bong water filters out 30% more THC then tar. In the end a water bong results in more tar inhaled per unit of THC you get from smoking. I know it is counter-intuitive because we only think of "bad" things sticking in the water, but that is what the study found.

I personally use a very long pipe (to allow the smoke to cool and make it less harsh) or a long bong with no water. I don't think people who use water bongs are stupid... I say do whatever floats your boat. I find I get higher faster with less weed from a pipe. Plus I like the taste of a pipe better, believe it or not. My secret is to use a nice long pipe and smoke it slow... keep the flame just off the weed so it turns brown and sort of "vaporizes". Then I mix the bowl around and repeat, "vaporizing" more of the weed. I get a bunch of "fresh" hits this way before I actually have to set the weed on fire. And in the end I get blasted. ;-)

[Enemy of Real1ty]

Joints easily waste the most, Bongs? Only waste I see is if you get to good of a cherry going, and it slowly burns while your holding your hit.

[Stemis516]

well what that study forgot to account for in joints was the fact that they dont stop burning even if your not hitting it, and as long as its burning, thats weed that isnt going into your lungs....joints and blunts easily waste the most

[WeedyBoyWonder]

I don't think bongs are a "waste" of weed. They have been proven to be "counter productive" apparently, which doesn't mean they are a waste of weed.
Hit a bong, get you stoned?

There is the answer... proof is in the pudding.

[JstUseDaBong]

The order from least wasting methods (according to NORML):

1. Joints
2. Pipes
3. Bong/Bubblers (as being the most wasting method, due some THC being lost in the water and sides of the chamber)

Well how am i to believe NORML research about bongs being "counter productive" if they missed the obvious that a joint is consistently burning and wasting weed but they say its the most "efficient" way to smoke...

[ZAD515]

All they said was that the smoke from a joint had a lower tar:THC ratio than the smoke from the bongs. It's up to you to decide if you'd rather deal with some side-stream smoke, or a higher tar:THC ratio.

Personally, I don't think it matters much. I chose joints because if they are well-rolled, the amount lost is minimal, and I don't like having big fat paraphernalia to deal with.

[twistpipe109]

I say we start a "FUCK NORML" petetion haha
Just kidding. Well, not really..

[savagehenry]

you guys are missing the point. bongs get you high as shit, so you dont lose thc content. bongs do waste weed when you dont have much and are smoking in a group because an otherwise fat bowl out of a pipe that will go around 10-15 times will only go around maybe 6 out of a bong. i like bongs for only me or 2 ppl, or if i have alot of bud. but when im in a group or low on weed, its pipes. they make it stretch. bottom line is 8 hits from a pipe> 2 hits frm a bong. i think thats what the guys meant.

[420_24/7]

NOT AGAIN!!!:beatdeadhorse::chainsaw:
go look at the posts on this concerning the norml/maps study
i dont feel like making my point again
http://boards.cannabis.com/recreational/139458-smoke-bubbler-no-water.html

[420_24/7]

Last night my buddy bought a few grams of some nice bud and we were ripping a bubbler. After awhile my other buddy busted out a bong and we were going to smoke out of it but someone said it wasted weed so we didnt. I dont understand why it would, THC isnt water soluble so the water wouldnt affect it IMO but i was way to stoned to bring the issue up :jointsmile:

you were smoking a bubbler, but you were worried about using a bong...
:wtf::wtf::wtf:

[coledog855]

Joints hands down waste the most, then blunts, then bongs, then bowls. Bongs and blunts will get you the highest just b/c they will hit the hardest b/c they make the biggest cherries.

[igotdakush]

vapes get u the highest, and they waste the least amount

[Reefer Rogue]

Technically eating cannabis will get you the highest, for longest. Then vapes. I really should eat it more.

[lildicedan]

you dont always have to put water into it, ive done a bong without water and plus, i had a 20 bag and my mate took bits out of it, he took quite a bit out for the Joint and quite a bit out for the Bong, i took half of the bong weed and smoked it and was fucked, my mates smoked all of the joint weed and werent as stoned as i was.

[Enemy of Real1ty]

Different tolerances maybe?, I doubt smoking a J with (more than 2 people I guess?) would get anyone higher than rippin a bong by themselves.

[Dren]

Okay, do bongs waste weed?

No...

Have you ever smoked a bong?

They get you HIGH

Therefore, whatever thc is 'lost' is SO miniscule it's absurd to imply that bongs are ineffective and wasteful. I don't give a fuck what NORML says, I know what I say, I know what my bong says. Joints waste more then anything. They need more weed to make a joint... The joint is constantly burning, thus you are losing thc. Sideburns... A bong takes less weed so it's not as wasteful as a joint. Perhaps a pipe is more efficient then all, HOWEVER, it's harsh as hell and not worth it, you wouldn't get that much higher from a pipe then a bong. If you smoke 0.3 in a pipe and 0.3 in a bong, it's the same.
Corner the bong bowl like you should be doing anyway and you'll get at least triple the greens in my experience. Not only that but I've only ever smoked out of one pipe that was able to get me more high on a hit for hit comparison than a majority of bongs. One dub-bub a buddy has is the only non-bong I've seen that can match the smoke, clarity, and high of a glass-on-glass diffuser, bub-bowl, ice catching bong (double+ perc will increase the smoothness and amount of smoke you can inhale, thus getting you higher).

I don't care what studies were done where, look at the fucking air when you smoke a J, blunt, bong, pipe, etc... unless the bong/pipe's rolling hard and the next person either doesn't put it out for a second or hit it immediately, you'll see the most wasted smoke coming off a j or blunt because, like a cig, it's continuously burning.

[lildicedan]

with a bong you can start and stop the flame with a j you cant it keeps burning, and when you leave it in the air if theres wind around it actually makes the joint burn as if your toking it, i know that cos i was smoking one yesterday and it happened and then i was like 'quick smoke it before it all finishes'

[lildicedan]

one thing good about normal joints is that, it is quite fun as it gives you something to do and uses up time and you can just like commune with a jay in your hand with a bong its kwik hits and the weed is finished fast so you cant really chill out cos you get stoned so fast

[thathippiekid]

Well, as counter-intuitive as it seems I can almost believe it. One thing to consider is the even though some of the joint burns away as you smoke it, you get the extra thc that resonates on the inside of the paper when your hitting it. Unlike on a pipe, where you'd have to scrape it off when it's old and nasty. Big glass on glass bowls usually hold at least a penners worth of weed..

Also I think the measurement of "how high" you are is totally subjective. All of our minds have the ability to produce a placebo effect, so maybe we just think we're getting higher when we're hitting big ass bongs?

[jonlem88]

Here is the thing, waste is a relative term. Some people mean waste as in, to have a good joint you have to have at least a gram, preferably 1.5-2 grams. To have a 4 hits from the bong, only requires say .5-.75. See 1 joint gets more than one person high, so you have to take that into account. The norml studies are just measuring which is the least wasteful in terms of how much thc is lost from one hit. So the thing is neither are a wasteful use of weed. They are both just different in there own ways. Now what your friend was saying is that he wants to conserve weed, and bongs use up a lot of weed at one time, and it is harder to control the hit going into your lungs. The bubbler on the other hand makes it very easy to control how fast and how much of the weed burns, you can still pack a full bowl but corner it, easy put it out, take hits when you want. I know you can do the exact same for a bong, but the thing is you are forced to take bigger hits and you may not even need the entire first hit to get high. My entire point is that waste weed is not an absolute term. It very a ton for different people. I like joints a lot(though not good at rolling them yet they are my favorite kind. So I can say I think all other forms of smoking are wasting weed but that is just not true.) I do think hat using a bowl/mini bubbler or the best way to make your stash last longer and get more people high though.

[jonlem88]

On a side note, this is the end all argument statement, the only way to in fact waste weed, is to not get it into your system in some form or fashion whether, its a bong, bowl, bubbler, joint, blunt, knife hit, vaporizer, steamroller, hookah, gravity bong, or just easting it.

[mogencho]

uh wat about gravity bongs? those keep my weed going for a looong time, but not as fun as a bong unless u pack bowls for snappin

[ZAD515]

This thread again? Anyways, here's a quote from Marijuana and the Brain, Part II: The Tolerance Factor (http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/brain2.html):

"Clinical studies indicate that only 10 to 20% of the available THC is transferred from a joint cigarette to the body. A pipe is better, allowing for 45% of the available THC to be consumed. A bong is a very efficient delivery system for marijuana; in ideal conditions the only THC lost is in the exhaled smoke."

So apparently there have been other studies that support the glorious bong.

[NinjaToke]

i havent read any of the other post but heres my story... recently due to my brother being around and i dont wanna be a bad influence (hes suppose to be the good kid in the family) i didnt wanna carry a bong around hte house... so i started smoking joints and blunts occasionally a pipe... but now that hes gone again ive been doing some mean bong rips and thats when i noticed nothing gets me high like a bong... put some ice in there you can take even bigger rips...

so to me if losing a bit of thc in the water and the sides of the bong is a loss im willing to take just because its a better quality hit to me and just takes me to a different level

[LIP]

Anyone who thinks joints waste weed cant roll joints. My joints dont waste ANY weed - so why do yours?

[anomaly]

Anyone who thinks joints waste weed cant roll joints. My joints dont waste ANY weed - so why do yours?

cause not smokes a whole joint after 1 hit, and if u dont, you too are wasting

[yiGity]

hahaha... its all about smoking snaps out of a bong, thats atleast what we call it. a snap is a little piece of bud you pack in the bowl, you milk up (hit it slowly so smoke fills up) the chamber or chambers of your piece. i prefer glass on glass bongs because i like to take the down stem out and its just a cloud of smoke straight to your dome when you clear it. imo its not a waste but more of a conserver.... just snap it kidz

[Mythologic]

Who cares? puff a blunt, toke a bong, hit the pipe, it's alllllllllllll good. :stoned:

Speaking of bongs though, i hit a four footer today. It was amazing.

I own a bubbler and it has never not gotten me high when i've smoked out of it, so who cares if it wastes a lil Tetrahydracannibinols here and there. :thumbsup:

[The Gnome]

The most wasteful use of weed I have ever seen was my dad flushing it down the toilet. NOOOOO


or my dog eating it...but I guess she enjoyed it.

[CultureCherryPopper]

I agree with LIP. If you roll the correctly, most of the smoke is paper. And if you think a bong gets you the highest out of all smoking implements, you haven't smoked that long or live under a rock. A vape will floor you. Once I shotgunned a J and the world rippled around me as time slowed down upon inhalation. That's neither here nor there because degrees of high are opinionated. Oh, and most of the time, when I smoke out of a bong or pipe it's rollin' anyway, 'specially when I grind the buds. So unless you snuff the pipe after each hit every time, is it really that different? Nah.

[LIP]

cause not smokes a whole joint after 1 hit, and if u dont, you too are wasting

That doesnt make sense... So how am i meant to reply?

Anyway, you're still wrong, if you knew how to roll you wouldnt waste any weed in a joint.

[CheeseOnToast]

The order from least wasting methods (according to NORML):
1. Joints
2. Pipes
3. Bong/Bubblers (as being the most wasting method, due some THC being lost in the water and sides of the chamber)


Joints as the least wasteful? i guess it depends how they researched it, but smoking them normally would prove to be the most wasteful - joint is consistently burning and you take a drag now and then.

I guess bongs have the risk of thc sticking to the chamber, and contaminants in the water, but have they considered THC absorption rate? im guessing this would be much higher for bongs.

Have they taken into account environmental factors? if you were in a tent smoking a joint, the absorption rate would be much higher because your breathing in the smoke multiple times.

I shit on NORML's research.

Why hasnt someone invented a special type of water for the bong that filters out more carcinogens than regular water? meh.

[angry nomad]

I'll take another whack at this dead horse. *WHACK!* Take THAT, stupid horse.

[LIP]

Joints as the least wasteful? i guess it depends how they researched it, but smoking them normally would prove to be the most wasteful - joint is consistently burning and you take a drag now and then.

I guess bongs have the risk of thc sticking to the chamber, and contaminants in the water, but have they considered THC absorption rate? im guessing this would be much higher for bongs.

Have they taken into account environmental factors? if you were in a tent smoking a joint, the absorption rate would be much higher because your breathing in the smoke multiple times.

I shit on NORML's research.

Why hasnt someone invented a special type of water for the bong that filters out more carcinogens than regular water? meh.


Thats where knowing how to roll a joint comes in usefull.

When your not hitting a joint, it shouldnt be embering and smoking - it should be alight still, but hardly embering at all. Then when you toke, it all comes back and burns like normal.

Between hits, the end of the joint shouldnt be smoking and should hardly be embering. THAT is how to roll a joint, and THAT is why joints dont waste weed. That's also how to get a joint to burn for along long time.

I'm not the only person who can do this - i know of others that can on this site.

The point is, if your joints are always burning and smoking, you cant roll.

[otottoto]

Thats where knowing how to roll a joint comes in usefull.

When your not hitting a joint, it shouldnt be embering and smoking - it should be alight still, but hardly embering at all. Then when you toke, it all comes back and burns like normal.

Between hits, the end of the joint shouldnt be smoking and should hardly be embering. THAT is how to roll a joint, and THAT is why joints dont waste weed. That's also how to get a joint to burn for along long time.

I'm not the only person who can do this - i know of others that can on this site.

The point is, if your joints are always burning and smoking, you cant roll.


The only problem here is that teh average Joe Schmo simply cant or doesnt know how to roll a joint like yours or the others who can do the same. Most ppl end up rolling loosely and therefore burn their joints up quickly. So on average, joints end up wasting more weed, not because of the delivery of it, but because of human error

[CheeseOnToast]

Thats where knowing how to roll a joint comes in usefull.

When your not hitting a joint, it shouldnt be embering and smoking - it should be alight still, but hardly embering at all. Then when you toke, it all comes back and burns like normal.

Between hits, the end of the joint shouldnt be smoking and should hardly be embering. THAT is how to roll a joint, and THAT is why joints dont waste weed. That's also how to get a joint to burn for along long time.

I'm not the only person who can do this - i know of others that can on this site.

The point is, if your joints are always burning and smoking, you cant roll.
I agree that thats the correct way to roll a joint, however, even when its just embering, its still burning and releasing thc. Now it may not be a lot of THC, but compared to the waste from a bong i beleive it would be.

[norkali]

This question has too many variables for us to answer it correctly/consistently. Quality & quantity of weed, tolerance of user, size of bongs/joints/etc., amount of time the hit is inhaled for....

Bong water may catch some of the THC, but if smoked properly, won't burn as it sits and lose smoke like a joint will. I tend to think these things just about cancel each other out, don't you think?

All I know is that the only time that I have ever been scared to drive while high was after I ripped a PHX for the first time. Whew! I remember *shaking* as I walked outside to my vehicle because I was so nervous to drive. I ended up driving just fine. I was just SO high I wasn't sure whether or not I could still do it, lmao.

I was out of town at a buddies, and we were set to head out to the beach after I got to his house. He asked if I wanted to rip his PHX before we left.... :stoned:

[FUNKNUGGET]

in my professional opinion, nothing gets you as high as the bong (as far as smoking, excluding edibles)

that shit probably made no sense but it doesnt matter because this is post 420 for me mothafuckas yay!

[606x808x303x420]

I always use my bong without water anyways...because its too loud with water...so it doesnt really matter to me.

Joints are definitely more wasteful than bongs...nothing wrong with them though, infact, ive been rolling way more than using my pieces lately.

[murderouspanda]

I'm using my bong right now and I'm only my 7th rip with half a bowl to go

its a fairly large bowl, but definately not huge :rastasmoke:

[everyday stoney69]

bongs dont waste weed! people just think they do cuz the bowl burns a lot faster.
but think about it, you get HIGH off a bong. if you are worried about wasting weed than stay away from joints.

:pimp:

[LaZ]

You would have to put into effect, how much water was used in the bong, how accurately the joint was rolled, etc.

[gotcanabis]

who cares?? i mean really who cares if you get high then who cares i use my bong most of the time and joints are pretty awesome too but i dont always have enough for a j so i mostly just smoke out of my bong i can get fucked up off of both a j and the bong

[DRybes]

You have to account not necessarily for smoke or smoke content lost but THC destroyed by burning (which is what helps give vaporizers that boost in THC/tar ratio almost as much as the fact that less tar-able substance is burning). In a cigarette at least 90% of the nicotine is destroyed by burning, which is actually the reason that a few cigarettes in a row doesn't give you what would be, ingested, a dangerous and potentially fatal nicotine overdose. I don't have the exact percentage of THC destroyed by smoking, and I know it's not as close, but it's up there too. Most of the bad chemicals in smoke are the result of things burning... most of smoke, as a result, is composed just of chemicals that result from burning. A lot of the original stuff that can't burn well gets left as ash.

So now consider how much weed gets lit at all during a single hit from each device. Once the flame touches it, or worse just the heat, and even if it just browns it (heat but no burning), the THC heat damage has been done. All the THC that would have rode the smoke particles, assuming that little portion caught fire instead of just turning brown, is still there, ready to try again. Whether it'll survive the eventual lighting, when even more THC is destroyed, is an open question.

Pipes you relight, bongs you relight, and both can burn on their own for a variable period while not being hit from, during which time a large amount of the contents are exposed to close-by heat. In a joint only the end burns and the tubular structure keeps most of the heat going exclusively up and away from the remaining weed. Even though a joint is burning continuously, moreso than a bowl of any sort would, it gives off its heat the best. That whole metal bowl on your pipe gets up to 130F or higher at times and it just puts the THC that much closer to the temperature it has to hit to destabilize, at which it could break down. The joint remains tolerably cool enough to touch, even down to a small roach where the cherry is effectively millimeters from your hand. Think about it.

The remaining inefficiency that puts the bong below the pipe is in the THC lost to water. I can't see much being lost on the insides of the device because glass is, molecularly, smoother than the metal in a pipe. (A joint is the least smoothest but collected up resin is then smoked.) A glass pipe would narrowly outperform a metal pipe. But the bong does lose something in water, and probably also because its hard to inhale the whole hit and leave absolutely no smoke behind... also consider that the bigger the hit, the less of its total content gets deep into your lungs. If your hit ends because you've reached inhaling capacity, then necessarily the last of what you inhaled is still in your throat and not your lungs. This situation sometimes comes up in a bong hit, moreso than with, say, a pipe. Finally, measure and see that although the few big hits of a bong get you high, and possibly higher than you personally get with many small hits, they do in fact use more weed than conservatively-used pipes or thinly-rolled joints. Perhaps just as a whisky drunk is different than a beer drunk, the faster high of a bong from its large hits is a different type of high than the slower one, and more enjoyable to some people.

[beatnuts]

whatever the argument, i think it's safe to say that by using the same amount of weed for a joint, and the same amount for bong hits, the bong will rip you harder, if you know how to take a great haul.

[Swift*]

I think people (noobs smokers atleast) they don't suck the flame all the way to the bottom of the bowl, sucking through only partially burnt weed

[OcapulcoGold]

Dude no way does it waist, unless of course you have vergin lungs and you blow it all out or something like that, and that with pipes or anything. With A bong your bags going to go a lot faster though but all that smoke is still going in your lungs

[IIG]

Put me in with the camp that thinks smoking joints is the most wasteful, and bongs among the least. Also, I'm surprised by some of the questioning of a bong's effectiveness. I can get higher with the bong smoking half the amount of weed of a joint. I can see a blunt rivaling the bong, but not a joint.

[Beefer86]

I have never been as high off a joint as I have a bong.

I think if you smoke a gram in a bong vs a pipe vs a joint you will FEEL higher with the bong.

But to each their own.

[Backpacker420]

Man even if using a bong did waste weed I wouldn't care, cause I can take suge huge hits on a bong versus a bowl or joint!

[dutchy420]

This topic has been brought up many times and those who claim bongs filter out thc and thus get you less high often refer to the NORML study which proved this.

ok...first of all, as someone already said, "wasting" is relative. what i think is wasting is not wasting to you or vice versa, plus tolerances are different, plus because of peoples different bodies its entirely possible that different methods get different people stoned.

though studies have been proven to show any number of things, i KNOW based on personal experienced based facts that packing a fat bong bowl and doming it to yourself will get me much more stoned than almost any other method. therefore i find this "bong wastes weed" discussion a waste of time and ultimatly, an argumentative loop.

[M.O.B.]

bongs get you ripped...period:rastasmoke:

[smok3y]

Dont see how bong are wasteful. I think bongs are better and you do get a better high than u do with smoking joints.. Also you save your self alot of weed as you dont need as much to get baked..

I personnaly think your friend is telling porky pies (lies)....:wtf:

[dagshet]

This topic has been brought up many times and those who claim bongs filter out thc and thus get you less high often refer to the NORML study which proved this.

ok...first of all, as someone already said, "wasting" is relative. what i think is wasting is not wasting to you or vice versa, plus tolerances are different, plus because of peoples different bodies its entirely possible that different methods get different people stoned.

though studies have been proven to show any number of things, i KNOW based on personal experienced based facts that packing a fat bong bowl and doming it to yourself will get me much more stoned than almost any other method. therefore i find this "bong wastes weed" discussion a waste of time and ultimatly, an argumentative loop.

yes i agree

it is ultimately about personal tolerance and not wasting weed. smoking out of a pipe vs. a bong is the is how fast the weed burns and how fat a rip you can take. for example what 4 pipes rips would equal 1 bong rip because you can take a fatter rip with the bong with water filtration and depending size of the bong. the pipe on the other hand has air filtration and thats it, your lungs with be burning with smoke before you could even take half what a bong could do to you. and for those out there who can take huge pipe rips enjoy your ashy lungs, ever notice why bong water looks and smells like crap??

When I first got my doctor recommendation my doctor told me that the more filtration between the burning marijuana and your lungs the better you are for respiratory function ( common sense duh ) joint<pipe<bubbler<bong<vaporizer.

just remember if your going to medicating over a long period of time that all the smoking is going to add up over time, thats why vaporizers are becoming more popular. your lungs won't outlast your smoking habits regardless of what studies say cigs are worse than marijuana.

thanks for the rant :twocents:

:jointsmile::thumbsup:

[New2Dro]

:wtf:IMO you use less weed when you rool a joint and still get the same high is not a better high, then any bong! Bong highs don't last very long to me. But thats just MPO though!!!! :jointsmile:

Chacolate Dutch
Grape "Rello"
Or just a plain "Swisha" :jointsmile:

[pinkyslayer]

I don't think bongs are a "waste" of weed. They have been proven to be "counter productive" apparently, which doesn't mean they are a waste of weed.
Hit a bong, get you stoned?

There is the answer... proof is in the pudding.

What? What the hell does that even mean? The term "counter productive" means it deters one from being productive, as in smoking weed while trying to study usually proves to be counter productive to your studying...you must have been high when you wrote this, broseph.;)

[OntarioToker69]

I Like to use a one hitter....conserves weed very well.
Plus I Find I Can Enjoy The full flavour by taking one it at a time.Some People Think Joints Waste Weed,but Most People,especially youngsters, don't know how to smoke a joint Properly in my opinion.I See People Hit Joints like it's the last joint on the Planet!That's how you waste weed,when the cherry gets Big and Red and the the tip smokes profusely.and the kicker is it seems like they only burn a little pit of the pot,the inside of the burnt cherry is still solid ganja!Don't even get me started on how some people make the paper run,and don't try to fix it until it's to late and completely unsmokeable.Have you ever seen someone smoke a Cigarette?It Burns pretty long,That's How I Like My Marijuana Joints To last.My Dad Taught me how to smoke joints when I Was a teen,as I would try to be cool holding the joint with my thumb and index finger.Taking in massive amounts of smoke and a lot of puffs(Like people on movies or tv)Till my Dad Got Super Pissed And said he wasn't going to smoke with me unless I smoked properly...
A joint of some...oh let's say..Kali mist,if smoked Properly should get 2-3 people comfortably High.

[maxsuperdanks]

Okay, do bongs waste weed?

No...

Have you ever smoked a bong?

They get you HIGH

Therefore, whatever thc is 'lost' is SO miniscule it's absurd to imply that bongs are ineffective and wasteful. I don't give a fuck what NORML says, I know what I say, I know what my bong says. Joints waste more then anything. They need more weed to make a joint... The joint is constantly burning, thus you are losing thc. Sideburns... A bong takes less weed so it's not as wasteful as a joint. Perhaps a pipe is more efficient then all, HOWEVER, it's harsh as hell and not worth it, you wouldn't get that much higher from a pipe then a bong. If you smoke 0.3 in a pipe and 0.3 in a bong, it's the same.

HEAR HEAR!


My bongs rip like magic, I can't imagine losing weed. The only thing I could see as being a waste is that they burn weed quicker and you might lose some THC in the excess smoke, and you get less rips (but they all go to the same place anyway?).


I wouldn't say any THC is lost in the water, if you put Vodka in the bottom though, that would lose it.

[BudGrower]

Any method can be wasteful if you are not carefull. I use a home-made water pipe. I put only a little in the bowl at a time. Then I lite it with a match carefully to only get a little burning. Then I toke enough and snuff out the bowl with my finger, and very little stuff goes "up in smoke" wasted. You can also stop the burning with a damp finger tip.

Sometime I roll tiny joints that are good for only a few hits and I snuff that out after each toke.

If you are lucky as I am, cause I got some potent one-hit-quit-shit, then it doesn't matter HOW you smoke it, you just smoke a tiny bit and it is ENOUGH. This stuff I'm smoking I grew myself from SuperSkunk seeds I bought from Mark Emery in 1990. The seeds stayed alive in my fridge for 7 years until I grew some plants last spring time. :smokin:

[EpsilonX]

Any method can be wasteful if you are not carefull. I use a home-made water pipe. I put only a little in the bowl at a time. Then I lite it with a match carefully to only get a little burning. Then I toke enough and snuff out the bowl with my finger, and very little stuff goes "up in smoke" wasted. You can also stop the burning with a damp finger tip.

Sometime I roll tiny joints that are good for only a few hits and I snuff that out after each toke.

If you are lucky as I am, cause I got some potent one-hit-quit-shit, then it doesn't matter HOW you smoke it, you just smoke a tiny bit and it is ENOUGH. This stuff I'm smoking I grew myself from SuperSkunk seeds I bought from Mark Emery in 1990. The seeds stayed alive in my fridge for 7 years until I grew some plants last spring time. :smokin:
this is true, when its just me I load a small bowl. toke. snuff. toke. snuff. until its cashed then chill for abit and if that isnt enough then I load another small bowl. weed gets wasted becuase people load a giant fat bowl just for them selves, and dont snuff it so it keeps burning.

[headydankness]

just take on phat bong rip and you'll know whats better, oh and make sure to hold in atleast 3-5 sec.
peace.

[OntarioToker69]

Like the last couple of people to post,i like to use a one hitter and snuff it out between each hit.keeping the end of the bowl covered and sucking out the smoke that got trapped in the tube when the cherry went out.I don't waste any smoke.it all goes in my lungs.And like the guy a couple posts up pointed out,
If you have access to high-test Cannabis,You should only need a
.2 or a .3 to get contently Stoned.I Just Weighed exactly a
.3 of HashBerry,smoked it from my hitter,the only smoke that went into the air was the smoke exhaled from my lungs,
And I'm Nice and Stoned.I Also feel alot of relief From My Stomach Pain and muscle weakness.

[OntarioToker69]

Anyone who thinks joints waste weed cant roll joints. My joints dont waste ANY weed - so why do yours?

I Couldn't have said it Better Myself.
You Took the Words right out of my thoughts using Stoner Telekinesis.:stoned:

[BudGrower]

just take on phat bong rip and you'll know whats better, oh and make sure to hold in atleast 3-5 sec.
peace.

I usually hold it for about 20 seconds. How long do you folks hold your tokes?

[chrons]

I usually hold it for about 20 seconds. How long do you folks hold your tokes?

20 seconds is probably not needed, I actually heard 5-7 most

but anyway, your friend probably just said bongs waste weed because they CRUSH bowl packs, not because THC is lost in the water or sides of the large device, that's all some BS, I almost guarantee he said it because you can easily crush a whole bong pack compared to a bowl in a pipe or even a bubbler...

[EpsilonX]

I usually hold it for about 20 seconds. How long do you folks hold your tokes?
twenty seconds is to much, thats what leads to loss of brain cells.
holding for 3-5 seconds is perfect becuase within the first 3 seconds 9x% of the thc is absorbed by the lungs.
atleast thats what I heard from my health class from a stoner teacher back in high school.

[Peter421]

it only seems like you're smoking more because you have more hits off of a blunt as you would off a bong but then again, you don't as much from a blunt as you would in a bong. and plus the hit is smoother and cooler thus you take yourself a killer rip.:rasta:

[mfqr]

Last night my buddy bought a few grams of some nice bud and we were ripping a bubbler. After awhile my other buddy busted out a bong and we were going to smoke out of it but someone said it wasted weed so we didnt. I dont understand why it would, THC isnt water soluble so the water wouldnt affect it IMO but i was way to stoned to bring the issue up :jointsmile:

No, I don't think it wastes weed, unless you use it in a wasteful manner; however, that can apply to any method of administration.

The reason why people think it wastes weed is because people usually get only one or two hits off of a bowl. But keep in mind that those hits are huge compared to a hit one would get from a pipe or a bubbler, or a joint/blunt/whatever. So really, you're getting the same amount as you would if you packed the same sized bowl in a pipe and took 5 or 6 or more hits... just you're getting it all at once instead.

[greenatik]

personally i think gravity bongs waste the least amount of ganja. its like 1/3 - 1/2 of a bong bowl and im high as hell for at least 3 hours

none of my buddies nor i smoke joints anymore because of our tolerance and how much it wastes

[naappy123]

THC and other cannaboids get filtered 30% more than the tar does, thats why it wastes weed... unless you drink the bong water everytime lol. bongs only get you more high because you can smoke like 10 times as much, it may feel better on your lungs but you are doing more harm than good.

[MattoftheWeed]

things do not waste weed
people do, the only wasting is when someone lets whatever amount of smoke not in there lungs of course which usually isnt alot
bongs and joints get you the same amount of high, it all depends on how big a hit you take, in a way you could think joints get you less high, because there a bit harsher which could lead to taking a smaller toke, but any way you do it your getting the same amount of high as long as your smoking the same amount of weeed.
some people i hear saying bongs eat weed, which isnt true, its all dependant on the person smoking
hopefullly this helps some people