View Full Version : Are You Are Who You Are?
13Lack
11-03-2007, 04:12 AM
Alright so I'm sitting here stoned thinking about how dangerously close I am to becoming a daily smoker. (not that being one is a bad thing, its just not something I want for the sake of and for the sake of my lungs as long as with just the sake of).
Now my question would be....if you smoke everyday and all day long to stay high all day. Are you are who you are when your sober? What I'm saying is that when your sober your this certain kind of person. Now when you get high you are a slightly different but the same person overall but regardless still different. So lets say theoretically someone falls in loved with the stoned you. Is she marrying you? or the stoned you? Because the fact that you smoke is part of you. When sober you want to smoke which is a part of you. But when you are high, its a part of you but a different you at the same time....if that makes sense.
So do you lose who you are when you decide to smoke? when you get high? I'm just wondering because I dont want to lose myself with my marijuana habit. but rather enjoy who i am when I'm sober with my marijuana habit, because I am a happier who I am when I'm sober.
Thanks for listening....heh...
cutecalikitty
11-03-2007, 04:37 AM
I mellow out quite a bit, but am still the same bitch I usually am on a daily basis
smartin.2006
11-03-2007, 04:43 AM
I think I changed, but for the better. I've calmed down a lot and i am never in trouble anymore! It's my own opinion but I think it tends to make you more open minded, so really you don't exactly change you just think differently.
You're forgetting that (hopefully) your fiancée has seen you both sober AND high, so they know who you are regardless of your state of mind. :thumbsup:
You're over-analyzing too much, probably because you're high. Relax and enjoy the buzz my friend :hippy:
Call Me Steam
11-03-2007, 05:20 AM
13, I understand where you are coming from. I think about these issues often, and at times in interferes with my high. My oldest brother, back in the 80's, had a sharp downward spiral beginning with cigararettes, then weed, then severe alcohol abuse, then hard drugs - he made me watch him snort cocaine while I was in third grade, and he became abusive to himself and others while drunk, and commited crimes under the influence of hard drugs and ended up in jail for 7 years. He stole from our financially struggling mother to support his habit and everyone in the family suffered from it.
This all happened before I completed forth grade, and watching he's sharp decline gave me a very hard stance against any drugs. I didn't drink AT ALL until I was 21,and did not smoke at all until I was 26. But after reaching a point of really growing up, becoming my own person, and accomplishing many of my goals, I decided marijuana was something I could handle while staying on a good path, and it really fit with my personality well, in a healthy way.
On top of that, my mom died five years ago from lung cancer, caused by years of cigarette smoking.
So of course, I've felt conflicted about my, at times, frequent use of marijuana. How can I not think about my brother when I'm using one of the drugs I watched as part of his decline as I grew up, and how can I not think of my mom's cancer and death as I breath smoke into my lungs?
Even without my personal experiances, it's understandable anyone would feel confliced given the constant popular blanket mentallity applied to all drugs including weed that it's bad, harmful, and shameful. Of course there are drugs which are destructive and ruin lives, but I believe this reputation being applied to marijuana is done so in ingornance, and probably fear. Unfortunately this popular mentality has plagued my girlfriend, whose biggest complaint against me is that I smoke the green. She tries to meet me halfway, but she really just doesn't get it, and she assumes many bad things after growing up with marijuana being thrown in the mix of anti-drug messages.
These are my own experiances, but I'm sure a lot of you aren't so different; there may be loved ones you have to hid this from, who despite the difference in opinion, you still respect where they come from. And we've all been subject to the anti-marijuana mentaility that exists in our culture. I mean, as kids we mostly assume anything illegal is bad. And to have to hide it can taint the experiance in a way and incorporate the wrong kinds of associations.
For myself personally, as much as my own intelligence, experiance, and logic makes me feel at peace with my choice to be user of marijuana, the sort of opening of the mental flood gates that happens while high; the total uninhibited thought that draws me so strongly to use the plant, also makes it hard and sometimes impossible to ignore these unerlying conflicted feelings of guilt.
13, I guess I'm taking this drawn out brainstorm somewhere different than you started, but I just really understand the feelings of conflict, and the self reflection that comes out of it that often leads you to question whether your choice to use will lead you to be someone different than you were when you started.
I guess my advice and insight, for what it's worth, is that despite the barrage of messages out there about who you should be, and how you should live your life, only you can make that decision. You know yourself better than us, and you have to guage for yourself what your limits are, and how true you're being to yourself. Using marijuana has helped me to see myself through a different lense, and I've become self-aware in ways I was not before and I've used it as a tool to better myself and get closer to self-actualizing. Sometimes I use it to relax. Sometimes I use it to enhance my already pretty jolly and humorous disposition. Often I use to to help open creative doors while writing music. Whatever your reasons for lighting up, if you enjoy it and like the changes it may bring you, then you're probably ok. You write the rules for your own life. And I doubt you're all that different when you light up; probably a version of yourself with some magnified traits, but you're still you.
You say that you're happier with who you are when you're sober, but you also like who you are when you're high. Remember that through and through, you're still the same person. And I'm probably projecting my own experiance, but maybe part of what's hindering your enjoyment is the combined experiance and viewpoints of others.
But really, I can't, nor can anyone, tell you what you should or should not do. But I have a feeling you'll be fine to just keep on keepin' on.
Keep it cool, Brotha-Man. :rastasmoke:
Oriente
11-03-2007, 06:32 AM
Alright so I'm sitting here stoned thinking about how dangerously close I am to becoming a daily smoker. (not that being one is a bad thing, its just not something I want for the sake of and for the sake of my lungs as long as with just the sake of).
Now my question would be....if you smoke everyday and all day long to stay high all day. Are you are who you are when your sober? What I'm saying is that when your sober your this certain kind of person. Now when you get high you are a slightly different but the same person overall but regardless still different. So lets say theoretically someone falls in loved with the stoned you. Is she marrying you? or the stoned you? Because the fact that you smoke is part of you. When sober you want to smoke which is a part of you. But when you are high, its a part of you but a different you at the same time....if that makes sense.
So do you lose who you are when you decide to smoke? when you get high? I'm just wondering because I dont want to lose myself with my marijuana habit. but rather enjoy who i am when I'm sober with my marijuana habit, because I am a happier who I am when I'm sober.
Thanks for listening....heh...
Dude that shit is awesome....thats such a...fuck I forgot the word....thats so...interesting....fuck. Well that thing, when your high your a diffrerent person.
Haha, Im stoned right now...my names still Matt though:rasta:
ldg420
11-03-2007, 06:50 AM
There is a reason that Marijuana can be grown on all 7 continents with or without soil, it is god's gift to man.
Society DEMONIZED marijuana because it was what many migrant workers smoked in the early 1900's. So america decided to enact the harrison tax act in 1914, thus making it legal to possess marijuana only if you had a special stamp from the government. the only way to get the stamp was to bring you weed into a gov't office and apply. So by possessing the weed while applying for a stamp you were breaking the law because you did not yet have the stamp...
marijuana was meant to be enjoyed it is not a drug it is a way of life!!!
:stoned:
cutecalikitty
11-03-2007, 01:03 PM
13, I understand where you are coming from. I think about these issues often, and at times in interferes with my high. My oldest brother, back in the 80's, had a sharp downward spiral beginning with cigararettes, then weed, then severe alcohol abuse, then hard drugs - he made me watch him snort cocaine while I was in third grade, and he became abusive to himself and others while drunk, and commited crimes under the influence of hard drugs and ended up in jail for 7 years. He stole from our financially struggling mother to support his habit and everyone in the family suffered from it.
This all happened before I completed forth grade, and watching he's sharp decline gave me a very hard stance against any drugs. I didn't drink AT ALL until I was 21,and did not smoke at all until I was 26. But after reaching a point of really growing up, becoming my own person, and accomplishing many of my goals, I decided marijuana was something I could handle while staying on a good path, and it really fit with my personality well, in a healthy way.
On top of that, my mom died five years ago from lung cancer, caused by years of cigarette smoking.
So of course, I've felt conflicted about my, at times, frequent use of marijuana. How can I not think about my brother when I'm using one of the drugs I watched as part of his decline as I grew up, and how can I not think of my mom's cancer and death as I breath smoke into my lungs?
Even without my personal experiances, it's understandable anyone would feel confliced given the constant popular blanket mentallity applied to all drugs including weed that it's bad, harmful, and shameful. Of course there are drugs which are destructive and ruin lives, but I believe this reputation being applied to marijuana is done so in ingornance, and probably fear. Unfortunately this popular mentality has plagued my girlfriend, whose biggest complaint against me is that I smoke the green. She tries to meet me halfway, but she really just doesn't get it, and she assumes many bad things after growing up with marijuana being thrown in the mix of anti-drug messages.
These are my own experiances, but I'm sure a lot of you aren't so different; there may be loved ones you have to hid this from, who despite the difference in opinion, you still respect where they come from. And we've all been subject to the anti-marijuana mentaility that exists in our culture. I mean, as kids we mostly assume anything illegal is bad. And to have to hide it can taint the experiance in a way and incorporate the wrong kinds of associations.
For myself personally, as much as my own intelligence, experiance, and logic makes me feel at peace with my choice to be user of marijuana, the sort of opening of the mental flood gates that happens while high; the total uninhibited thought that draws me so strongly to use the plant, also makes it hard and sometimes impossible to ignore these unerlying conflicted feelings of guilt.
13, I guess I'm taking this drawn out brainstorm somewhere different than you started, but I just really understand the feelings of conflict, and the self reflection that comes out of it that often leads you to question whether your choice to use will lead you to be someone different than you were when you started.
I guess my advice and insight, for what it's worth, is that despite the barrage of messages out there about who you should be, and how you should live your life, only you can make that decision. You know yourself better than us, and you have to guage for yourself what your limits are, and how true you're being to yourself. Using marijuana has helped me to see myself through a different lense, and I've become self-aware in ways I was not before and I've used it as a tool to better myself and get closer to self-actualizing. Sometimes I use it to relax. Sometimes I use it to enhance my already pretty jolly and humorous disposition. Often I use to to help open creative doors while writing music. Whatever your reasons for lighting up, if you enjoy it and like the changes it may bring you, then you're probably ok. You write the rules for your own life. And I doubt you're all that different when you light up; probably a version of yourself with some magnified traits, but you're still you.
You say that you're happier with who you are when you're sober, but you also like who you are when you're high. Remember that through and through, you're still the same person. And I'm probably projecting my own experiance, but maybe part of what's hindering your enjoyment is the combined experiance and viewpoints of others.
But really, I can't, nor can anyone, tell you what you should or should not do. But I have a feeling you'll be fine to just keep on keepin' on.
Keep it cool, Brotha-Man. :rastasmoke:
I'm too smoked up to read all of this .. but I'm sure its some good shit
Storm Crow
11-03-2007, 02:52 PM
Sweetie, I have toked for 40 of my 60 years. Cannabis has shaped me. I am (judging from comments that others have made, on line and in "real life") a kind, patient, and loving person. My last job evaluation described me as a self-starter and always performing my job at an exceptional level. My bosses give me little gifts in appreciation (just got another one Wednesday).
Before I started toking, I was quite screwed up. I had an abusive, bipolar, suicidal, mother, a gone-half-the-time dad (Navy, nuclear subs) and then there was their nasty divorce combined with my own mildly bipolar/obsessive nature, plus all the joys of being the fat, but brilliant, teen.... The school sent me to a psychiatrist after the counselors couldn't help me. At 19, I found cannabis. It allowed me to put things in perspective, and mellowed out the highs and lows. Along the way, I found it got rid of the frequent migraines I had due to a childhood head trauma (I was almost murdered by another kid). I do my best not to run out. I am a legit medical user, but daaang, I enjoy medicating!
I wake and bake (just a couple puffs), go to work 2 hours later, come home after 8 hours and get stoned. I work in special education- a job that is difficult and stressful- but I love it! I have a AS in Psychology and graduated with honors. I wrote most of my papers stoned. I enjoy genealogy, sculpting in wood and clay, painting and quilting. Then there is my MMJ list (click the link in my sig) No "amotivational syndrome", here!
Cannabis brings out the best in me. When I run out (not for the last 3 years), I say a few unlady-like words and hope the headaches don't start until I can get some more! Do I change? Not really. I'm a tad less creative. A bit shyer. A bit duller. Just little less than I am when I can get high. Cannabis enhances who I am- it doesn't really change me. Cannabis keeps me in touch with my "higher self" (double meaning intended!).
Granny:hippy:
MeGustaMota
11-03-2007, 05:33 PM
This summer I smoked A LOT. Since then I have mellowed down a lot but when I was smoking multiple times per day I noticed that I became very ambivalent to my family and more importantly, to the girl I was and are still dating. It made me not care as much and I almost made a very bad decision and lost said girl.
Since then I have mellowed out, I now smoke around 4-5 times a week and compared to this summer it is a lot lot less. But now I try to be very aware of who I am and whether or not I change when I'm high. Because relaxing and chilling out while high is a good thing, not caring isn't.
13Lack
11-04-2007, 12:36 AM
As I sit here stoned....again.
Thanks for the input guys....I really thought people were gonna look at me weird and not understand me. But you guys replied, understood and answered. I love this forum, its not like other forums when you just get flamed all the time. Stoners unite!
This made me feel a bit better at my attitude towards MJ....I hate being a criminal...but it makes me relaxed...and I am a very stressed person and if people should stress me, they dont need to be in my life anyway.
trem0lo
11-04-2007, 03:43 AM
If it makes you feel good do it. Personally I treat it like alcohol. Something I do when I'm done doing things for the day.
I smoke sporadically throughout the day/week. It usually just depends on my schedule but I'd like to smoke all the damn time, ha, too bad I can't afford that. I've done it for a few days or a week at a time before though and I feel like I'm still mostly the same person I am sober only more personable (if it's a sativa) or just plain more relaxed (both sativa and indica but primarily the latter). So yeah, I'd say I'm the same person blitzed as I am sober, hell, I do my job better baked than I do sober.
One trick I've found for not fucking yourself up too much by letting the green get out of hand is to know someone that can get adderall or rit fairly easily at a good price for you. Whenever you've got shit to do just blow an addy and you'll have your energy and motivation back multiplied by a hell of a lot. When you start comin down (kinda sucks for some people, makes you feel like shit, like coke's little brother... both literally and figuratively) just smoke another bowl, get some food to fill your stomach up after not eating for 5+ hours and to satiate the munchies, and chill or pass the hell out.
cheers
silkyblue
11-07-2007, 04:41 PM
being from an abusive childhood mj helps deal with the never changing past
and
my name is not silkyblue lol
mj has saved me ~~
when I tried to climb out of my soul!
dont exceed dosage
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