400w HPS, 5 gal DWC First grow

[PdoubleOTY]

Howdy everyone...So this is my first grow, already in to it a bit, but figured I need to make a log to get help with problems etc.


Set up:

Good sized walkin-ish closet
400w HPS lamp off ebay
5gal built myself hydro bucket(non recirculating, but hopefully after christmas, i will have a 2-3 bucket recirculating system)
General Hydroponic 3 part nutes
Floralicious plus
Fulvic Acid that my local hydro store actually makes

White Widow from Nirvana seed shop, close to a month old total (including germination seedling etc). So only about 2.5 3 weeks veg total..I have to start flowering by the end of this week due to christmas break. I will be out of town and i live by myself so i cant tend to my baby. I will have to finish this plant(WHICH GOD I HOPE IS A FEMALE!)before christmas. But after christmas, new grow, etc, shall be AWESOME!

[Illusion]

Is that a honeywell fan? Hah. I have the same one sitting in my closet.

You should look into one of those feminizing foliar sprays :D

she looks nice and compact, btw :]

[stinkyattic]

Feminizing sprays/ seed soaks are a joke.

[whisky]

its natural I think.. not everything is possible to be female BUT I hope yours is ;)
looking good and healty, good luck!

[PdoubleOTY]

yes it is a honey well fan...i also have one in the top that is acting as an exhaust fan. i'll get some pics later and post it, it works very well.vents the light pretty good and temps usually stay around high 80's ambient. the temp around the plant is always high 70's since that one fan is blowing on it and around it.works good, but growing one plant at a time is very very ineffective from seed...so hopefully after christmas ill have a 2 bucket or maybe 3 4 smaller bucket recirculating system so that i can produce some more plants and then hopefully get to taking some clones...i might try and take some clones from this baby near the end of her flowering stage...ive read that stinky as performed this on a regular basis, and it just requires proper cloning...so maybe 2 or 3 weeks before finish ill cut a few clones to hopefully have ready to go when i return...gotta build a clone bubbler by then too :-D

[PdoubleOTY]

Some new growth! Almost time to start flowering....An ounce or two would be quite amaaaaazing.

[Paht_Hed]

Your water level seems a little high. Do you have it in rockwool also or just the hydroclay? If so you might wanna lower the water level a bit if its a DWC system. You are putting your plant at risk for stem rot.

[PdoubleOTY]

Yea ive come to realize that im letting the water get too high...very bottom of my stems are a bit slimy and black in some spots...i'm gonna go fix this now

[Comatose]

Hey Pooty, I'm just in the last stages of finishing my DWC system. Its 5 gallons as well, but in a storage container instead of a bucket. Anyways, I have to wait for some space to free up before I can start using it, so I'll be checking in on your grow quite a bit. Good job!

[PdoubleOTY]

Got bored and did some picture taking practice...That second picture is my mutant leaf that looks kinda coooool:jointsmile:

Plant seems to be fine, will go under flowering light on sunday...We shall see, first grow, first try at all of this with no TDS or PH meter...hydro is hard without all the right equipment! hopefully some money in the future will help me get the rest of what i need to grow...this was like my test run to see if i could even grow pot where i live etc...i dont think ill ever cross over 3 or 4 plants at a time...Femenized seeds would be amazing...i should order a bunch.

[Comatose]

If I were you, I'd just grow non feminized seeds, find your prized female, and then keep her for cloning.

[PdoubleOTY]

well i need to get another room set up in my opposite closet for veg/clone area...that will have to wait till after christmas...so hopefully after christmas ill pop 2 white widow and 2 northern lights...and hopefully get some females..we shall see!

[Comatose]

I just got NL and WW too, hehehe

[PdoubleOTY]

grrr 3:00 pm needs to get here so i can see new growth!

[PdoubleOTY]

HOOORAAAY 3PM and lights on!


Dude, growing weed is so much damn fun! i get so excited every time i step in to that room to do work, check on it, or just take pics of the new growth.....Flowering starts tomorrow! COME ONNNNNN FEMALE!

[Charles U Farley]

Good luck with your grow.You might want to recheck your time schedules if you want everything to be done by Christmas.Even at 8 weeks your running out of time.Last summer I did a run of WW and let them go 9and1/2 weeks and could have let them go a bit longer but they had to come down because of the heat.If I can I try not to put my girls on a set schedule or on my time schedule.Rather if I can I let the girls talk to me and tell me when they are ready to come down.Good luck and keep us updated.Take care,be well,and be safe

[PdoubleOTY]

well i start flowering tomorrow...so hopefully ill finish before xmas

[PdoubleOTY]

December 22 is 8 weeks exactly...mgiht have some very heady high style white widow

[PdoubleOTY]

some new growth...this sucker is DENSE! she's not stretching for the light really at all, she just keeps getting bushier and bushier...topping really caused the lower branches to really develop...so im hoping that she'll still produce an ounce or two :D

[PdoubleOTY]

Day 2 of flowering! She's looking so pretty, growth is very rapid, almost an entire new set of leaves show up every day...hopefully she'll stretch a good bit(and pray she's a she), i really want a good first grow! growth is very dense, color is great minus a few tiny spots here and there which im thinking might be a tad bit of nute burn...i'm gonna flush with some water for a few hours before next nute change...also, those are pics of the exhaust system for my little closet set up...works pretty well, suction is enough to put out a lighter all the way down the tube, almost to the edge of the reflector.

[PdoubleOTY]

Day 3 of flowering...Bunch of new growth, new set of leaves and around 7 or 8 total future bud sites! Will post pics later, hoping it'll show sex by the end of this week!

[Cyclonite]

If you do it right I think you can pull 4 oz....and thats only about .25g/watt...keep them temps in check.

[PdoubleOTY]

temps are aobut as perfect as i can ask for...outside temps have dropped to 60's at the high..so the highest it gets in there is 85 when the door is almost shut..it stays at low 80's, then night temps are mid 70's...i might need to start shutting off fans at night times so it wont drop below 70..its gettin kinda chilly

[Cyclonite]

60 at night is just fine...aim for high 70s during the day.

Good luck...im running a 5gal bucket system also, im interested in how much you will pull with all that light for 1 plant...FEMALE:thumbsup:

[PdoubleOTY]

so day 3 of flowering pics....Can anyone tell me what those brown/yellow spots are? There are only like 4 or 5 total on the plant, very small, rest of the plant is a beautiful green color and the leaves are very strong..should i be looking to adjust something, or is this just unavoidable discoloring due to some small factor?

[PdoubleOTY]

60 at night is just fine...aim for high 70s during the day.

Good luck...im running a 5gal bucket system also, im interested in how much you will pull with all that light for 1 plant...FEMALE:thumbsup:

im very curious also! after christmas, i should have more plants going at once, hopefully wtih a mother in soil that i can take some clones from...this is my first grow, just seeing what it takes, if my system works, and if i can even grow where i live without legal troubles...so far things are going GREAT! I really would be very very happy with an ounce, anything more would be fucking out of this world! Going to be an amazing christmas/new year if this is a female!

[systrex]

so day 3 of flowering pics....Can anyone tell me what those brown/yellow spots are? There are only like 4 or 5 total on the plant, very small, rest of the plant is a beautiful green color and the leaves are very strong..should i be looking to adjust something, or is this just unavoidable discoloring due to some small factor?


Well let me start off by saying im not a growing expert or hydro expert but I thought brown spots and yellowing leafs indicated nutrient deficiencies(calcium and iron) which if I remember right are secondary nutrients... I know with soil grows that can be caused by PH being to high(alkaline) so might wanna looking that(if you have not already done so)...

Hopefully that helps

[PdoubleOTY]

my pH was close to 7 the other day, but i dropped it to mid 5's earlier yesterday, and its stayed right at about 6....so yea should be alright, but ill check some reading material and see if those are nutrient deficiencies...if anything, i thought i was over feeding

[Cyclonite]

Your probably fine...if it isnt getting worse and new growth is good no worries. PH can be a biatch

[PdoubleOTY]

so some more crazy new growth, day 5-6ish of flowering...i think ive spotted some potential flowers at the 3rd node up! Its a tiny tiny little tear drop shaped ball with a tiny hair sticking out...i'm hoping its female, but its not quite big enough to take a good pic yet or at least for my picture taking skills..hopefully by tomorrow or sunday, we shall know!

[PdoubleOTY]

day 6 of flowering...still no definite signs of sex yet...plant is growing great though..so far i count 8 total potential bud sites..hopefully some more will squeeze out through the stretch before she starts to mature...it shall be interesting to see if i can finish this plant..i have company coming in to town dec 18th..thats 3 days short of 8 weeks from when i started flowering...so im gonna have to figure something out...


I read a few times, you can leave the plant in total darkness for 48 hours-ish for the end of its life as a shock method to promote resin formation...is this true?

[tokr2153]

dude lookin good so far keep it up hope u got a female good luck

[PdoubleOTY]

male :wtf::mad::(:cursing::gunfighter2::buzz_saw:

[PdoubleOTY]

ok anger and sadness over...pulled the plant, stared at its beauty for a while and then tossed it...so after christmas, new grow!! hopefully ill get a female and take me some good clones! oh well..until next time!

[insaniac17]

Dude why did you waste it like that? My first grow gave me 2 males about 30" tall. They magically transformed into an amazing batch of about 12 decently potent cookies. The 1 male from the following grow (32") gave me the same batch but half as strong. You could also get some hash oil out of the deal if you want.

[bombdiggity]

Dude why did you waste it like that? My first grow gave me 2 males about 30" tall. They magically transformed into an amazing batch of about 12 decently potent cookies. The 1 male from the following grow (32") gave me the same batch but half as strong. You could also get some hash oil out of the deal if you want.

nah, i think it would be a waste to run a 400W light for 8-9 weeks just to flower a male. think about the money you spend on electricity - you could just use that money to buy a bag of weed! FEMALE weed!

[moneyshotpb]

this thread is from November