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dankman
10-24-2007, 03:37 AM
whats your opinion on them, have you used them, if so which did you use?

ive been pressured to start takin steroids for quite sometime but i really dont think theyre for me.

any one have good alternatives......besides the 300 workout

OLDE ENGLISH '800
10-24-2007, 03:54 AM
i think juicing is cheating but thats my opinion. i got my hands on some testosterone a couple years ago i didnt do it just got rid of it their is lots of money in that field.i wouldnt tell anyone to use steroids though because i have seeen what they can do to you,my father for what little time he was around was on it pretty bad and he started going crazy beating my mother/me and when you looked in his eyes it wasent him.so i say kick em before they get the better of you, do it the old fashion way you will be much more satisfied.

birdgirl73
10-24-2007, 04:54 AM
Anyone with any sense or medical knowledge knows people ought to steer clear of anabolic steroids. Do some reading about them. They might increase muscle mass or boost your testosterone temporarily, but the side effects are scary. Liver damage. A dangerous increase in your bad cholesterol. Testicular atrophy. Impaired sperm production. Damage to your heart. Suppression of your natural sex hormones. These are serious side effects. You're wise to steer clear of them. Anyone with good sense would be.

dankman
10-24-2007, 05:03 AM
thanks you guys are making me feel like i made the right decision

Nailhead
10-24-2007, 05:29 AM
Who is pressuring you to use them? Sounds like you could use some new friends if those are the kind of people you are hanging out with. If it is a school team, I would quit because there is no joy in winning if you know your team cheated. That might just be me though.

thegent
10-25-2007, 02:09 AM
Moderate use of steroids won't hurt anyone. It has a bad rap, just like pot does. Go to a steroid website and most will tell you to steer clear of cannabis. Educate yourself on the topic from a non-biased website. I'll tell you this, no death has ever been directly linked to steroid use.

birdgirl73
10-25-2007, 03:31 AM
Moderate use of steroids won't hurt anyone. It has a bad rap, just like pot does. Go to a steroid website and most will tell you to steer clear of cannabis. Educate yourself on the topic from a non-biased website. I'll tell you this, no death has ever been directly linked to steroid use.
You might want to do a little more reading, yourself. Medical literature has a variety of stories about sudden cardiac death related to anabolic steroid use (as a result of its effects on the left ventricle). There are also numerous documented cases of anabolic-steroid-depression-driven suicides. One very prominent case of steroid-driven suicide happened in this very area of north Texas, and the young man's parents have been very instrumental in publicizing the problem.

Only under very limited, medically monitored circumstances should people consider using anabolic steroids. Ask any librarian at your nearest medical school or do a Google on anabolic steroid deaths and you can read plenty of information there.

Mrs. Greenjeans
10-25-2007, 04:14 AM
I wouldn't let anyone with atrophied testicles pressure me into doing a damn thing.

You don't wanna have little baby balls do you? Or wind up like that fucktard wrestler who killed his family?

Every time you feel pressured, just say to yourself, "Tiny balls dude."

Mrs. Greenjeans
10-25-2007, 04:23 AM
I used to date a male stripper/competitive body builder who used steroids. He was insanely good looking, and his body was huge and flawless.

He had the tiniest penis I've ever seen outside of a diaper. With a full erection, it was no bigger than a Bic lighter, (actually, it wasn't as big as a Bic.) and he was 24 years old.

He was a nice guy, but after having sex with him twice, I eased my way out of the relationship. We remained friends, so he used to call me to get dating advice. ALL his girlfriends would sort of fade away after having sex with him once or twice. He used to call me, heartbroken, wondering why he couldn't keep a girlfriend. I never had the heart to tell him that it was his Mini Me that was killing his relationships. I used to just say, "Oh she's immature.", or "You're too good for her anyway, she was a bitch."

Don't do steroids. It's sooooo not worth it.

sstolley
10-25-2007, 04:34 AM
The results are short lived, the effects life lasting, and no one wants to hang out with someone who has big muscles, is angry all the time, and can't function where it counts the most because everything is shrunk and tiny.

Steroids-like the ones we have now-haven't been around long enough to reveal effects on someone who is say 60 and used when they were 20-30.

Use high powered ganga before you work out early in the morning. The endorphins are phenomenal.

:D

Zonyc
10-25-2007, 04:40 AM
try creatine if you're looking for steroid like gains. It's naturally occuring, and tonnes of research has been done on it. There's lots of literature available at places like bodybuilding.com

Nailhead
10-25-2007, 05:03 AM
Moderate use of steroids won't hurt anyone. It has a bad rap, just like pot does. Go to a steroid website and most will tell you to steer clear of cannabis. Educate yourself on the topic from a non-biased website. I'll tell you this, no death has ever been directly linked to steroid use.

I've taken mild forms of steroids for medical reasons, I'm not sure how similar they are to what you take, but I just know it's not fun stuff and I would never even think of using them unless the pros outweight the negatives. The last time I took a prescription steroid I had to leave work early and go to urgent care because I thought I was having a heart attack or something....I will never take that drug ever again because of those side effects. Just not worth the good it promises for my condition. Now years ago I took a different prescription steroid and didn't have the same bad reaction, and it did help me medically, however, my doctor didn't want to keep me on it for too long because there are some severe long term side effects. Again, maybe it's a different form of steroids, but I can't imagine your form is really any safer!

FireTheft
10-25-2007, 05:08 AM
are these people going to pay for your medical bills should something happen to you? are these people pressuring you going to get you out of jail should you get busted? are these people going to fix what could happen if say you get kicked out school, kicked off your team, banned from doing something? probably not because people who pressure others are often times weak cowards....

you need to make your own sound decisions and not let anyone pressure you into anything you dont want to do or dont believe in...and if they can't respect your decision...then fuck them, they're not your friends and they certainly would NOT stick up for you in a real life situation....

Mrs. Greenjeans
10-25-2007, 02:34 PM
QFT FireTheft. You are spot on.

palerider7777
10-25-2007, 06:55 PM
they can be bad when people abuse them as with anything else out of all of them i'd say hgh and winstrol would be the safest to use in the right doses i myself have never done them but have read about them and studied them for about 4 years now and u see the anger and all the bad stuff u hear about people doing i'd say 9 out of 10 times is because there being abused like when u should only take say 50cc a week and guys take 1000cc every 2 or 3 days and if u do half the dose ur body calls for it will still work but not as quick but ur being safe too so i'd say read alot more on them b4 u think about the ones u might take and i'd stay away from the real strong ones like d ball and all the big stacks they do and don't do something cause ur friends are telling u to do it because u know what it is and does and the knowledge u have of it not just to fit in

smoke_and_fly
10-25-2007, 08:09 PM
protien,creatine,glutamin,amino acids,anabolic compound pills/powders,testosterone boosters
these are all supplements that WILL give results
look up muscle tech supplements on ebay
gakic from muscletech is one of if not the best supplement on the market today
leukic is the worlds first 100% anabolic compound what is does is put your body in a anabolic state
a anabolic state is when your body is building muscle
creakic is another supplement from Muscletech and is a creatine pill not just another creatine pill either
the most powerful creatine pill in the world!
all these will contribute to muscle/strength gains
but in the end it is only YOU who decides on your results
none of these things can make up for nutrition and workouts its 97% nutrition/workouts and 3% supplements
also if you are going to become a bodybuilder you have to stick clear of alcohol
getting pissed can upset the testosterone levels in your body for up to a month
but if you are to get serious about ur body then the muscletech range is the way to go
best supplements on the market
and also most of the anabolic steriods off the net are for animals not humans
if you have played at a high level of a sport they teach you these things
peace

TallulahGreen
10-25-2007, 08:18 PM
whats your opinion on them, have you used them, if so which did you use?

ive been pressured to start takin steroids for quite sometime but i really dont think theyre for me.

any one have good alternatives......besides the 300 workout


I was put on steroids for my poison oak for 2 weeks.

They were horrible. I was hungry all the time, I would never shut up, and I was an irritated bitch!

Too much stuff happening around me and I would get way stressed out and freak out...

...Steroids SUCK. I hope to never have to be on them again!!

thcbongman
10-26-2007, 12:32 AM
I used to date a male stripper/competitive body builder who used steroids. He was insanely good looking, and his body was huge and flawless.

He had the tiniest penis I've ever seen outside of a diaper. With a full erection, it was no bigger than a Bic lighter, (actually, it wasn't as big as a Bic.) and he was 24 years old.

He was a nice guy, but after having sex with him twice, I eased my way out of the relationship. We remained friends, so he used to call me to get dating advice. ALL his girlfriends would sort of fade away after having sex with him once or twice. He used to call me, heartbroken, wondering why he couldn't keep a girlfriend. I never had the heart to tell him that it was his Mini Me that was killing his relationships. I used to just say, "Oh she's immature.", or "You're too good for her anyway, she was a bitch."

Don't do steroids. It's sooooo not worth it.

Holy crap, that's a small dick. I'm bigger flaccid, and I wouldn't consider it large lol!

Anyway, there a group of guys at my gym that definitely take steroids. They all have puffy muscles, and are just huge...so huge it looks unattractive. I don't understand how ladies could be attracted to such mass. I mean, do you really want to look like that, and not really earn it either, mostly because of steroids, not solely from hard work? I think it's really ugly.

birdgirl73
10-26-2007, 12:50 AM
I've taken mild forms of steroids for medical reasons, I'm not sure how similar they are to what you take, but I just know it's not fun stuff and I would never even think of using them unless the pros outweight the negatives. The last time I took a prescription steroid I had to leave work early and go to urgent care because I thought I was having a heart attack or something....I will never take that drug ever again because of those side effects. . . . Again, maybe it's a different form of steroids, but I can't imagine your form is really any safer!


I was put on steroids for my poison oak for 2 weeks. They were horrible. I was hungry all the time, I would never shut up, and I was an irritated bitch!

Too much stuff happening around me and I would get way stressed out and freak out...Steroids SUCK. I hope to never have to be on them again!!

Tallulah, I know for certain with you, and Nailhead, I strongly suspect with you, too, that you were likely put on cortico-steroids, not on anabolic steroids. Cortico-steroids like prednisone or a Medrol dose pack (ever-dwindling doses) or dexamethasone are used medically a lot as anti-inflammatories or immuno-suppressants. I took those, too, after my spinal surgery to reduce neurological inflammation. They are commonly prescribed and have plenty of justified uses, like allergic reactions or immuno-suppression or various others. While they do have some nasty side-effects, they're not anything like anabolic steroids, which are synthetic androgens (fake male hormones). The corticosteroid I took after my spinal surgery made me irritable and hungry and very depressed, but those symptoms fortunately went away as soon as I stopped them.

Anabolic steroids have far fewer legitimate medical applications than cortico-steroids. Occasionally anabolics will be used for a brief time under close supervision to boost stunted growth or stop wasting diseases such as HIV or cancer, but they're far more frequently used illegally and improperly.

qdavid
10-26-2007, 04:48 AM
Thanks for pointing that out. I was going to say not all steroids are the real harmful bad stuff like anabolic steroids. My wife took prednisone. It can be bad, but it's different.

TallulahGreen
10-26-2007, 05:24 PM
Tallulah, I know for certain with you, and Nailhead, I strongly suspect with you, too, that you were likely put on cortico-steroids, not on anabolic steroids. Cortico-steroids like prednisone or a Medrol dose pack (ever-dwindling doses) or dexamethasone are used medically a lot as anti-inflammatories or immuno-suppressants. I took those, too, after my spinal surgery to reduce neurological inflammation. They are commonly prescribed and have plenty of justified uses, like allergic reactions or immuno-suppression or various others. While they do have some nasty side-effects, they're not anything like anabolic steroids, which are synthetic androgens (fake male hormones). The corticosteroid I took after my spinal surgery made me irritable and hungry and very depressed, but those symptoms fortunately went away as soon as I stopped them.

Anabolic steroids have far fewer legitimate medical applications than cortico-steroids. Occasionally anabolics will be used for a brief time under close supervision to boost stunted growth or stop wasting diseases such as HIV or cancer, but they're far more frequently used illegally and improperly.

Yes, you are right. Thank you for clarifying that! My mom is on Prednisone like the rest of her life.
...and yes Prednisone was in fact what I was put on. They started me at 50mg and I was on them for 2 weeks because I had to be weened off of them. Awful things I tell you!

FireTheft
10-30-2007, 03:15 PM
another big misconception about roids is that they're this fountain of muscle....you dont just take them and muscle appears....they mainly just increase protein synthesis....you still have to work out insanely hard, you still have to consume a ton of protein...otherwise you wont see any results. they're very expensive and of course you run the risk of getting some bogus blackmarket roid that isn't what it says it is.... the health risks to your joints, tendons, ligaments, heart, brain, etc are huge.

if you take the right concoction of legal supplements like whey protein, glutamine, creatine, etc....work out hard, eat right.....you'll pack on the pounds. you really need to research into how your body works and how to manipulate your bodies metabolic pathways and protein synthesis the legal and healthy way - you can have just as good of results if you know what you're doing.

I highly recommend looking into a company called AST Research sometimes called AST sports science.....they make the best supplements and provide LOADS of research on their webpage into how the human body works. they're the only company that does scientific research into their products and they dont sell snake oil products like many of these other crappy companies out there.

there was a point in my life where I was a skinny 145lbs. in less than a year I bulked up to 185lbs with 5% bodyfat. I did it all without steriods.