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iriebowl

10-23-2007, 10:13 AM

Sup everyone been reading a bunch of the logs and so i decided to write one of my own. A lil backstory since my clones are a bit grown. They're about 2 months old and were the 2 best out of 4 clones cut. This was my first time cutting clones and didnt use a humidity dome or anything so a 50/50 survival was fine with me.

I started them in peat pellets and transplanted into 1 gallon pots when roots came through peat netting. Soil was Miracle Grow (slow release CRAP). Surprisingly they did nicely and didnt show any burning or lockout. When I transplanted into 2 gallon pots(same MG soil) they suffered from PH lockout and really slowed down growth not to mention alot of dead foliage. I flushed them with PH corrected water a few times and they perked back up. There was no point in me transplanting into 2 gallon pots but I did out of stupidity LOL. After they settled down from the PH issues they got a final transplant into 5 gallon pots which was done last thursday night. This time I still used Miracle Grow soil but it was the "ORGANIC" mix and added foam rock, peat moss, and chicken shit. MY soil PH was a low/mid 6 so that made me happy. I just got some FF grow big and fed them that but will start using FF tiger bloom now since I started 12/12.

That just about gets everything caught up so now Ill delve into the setup. Its just a simple CFL grow in my closet. Im running 8x26watt (2700k 1750Lumens) CFLs under a homemade hood with dual PC fan exhausts. Temps are in the mid to high 80's with humidity ranging from 55%-65%. Ventilation is terrible with a rigged up 6" fan blowing out the only window in my closet. I have an oscillating fan on them also and a dehumidifier when I need it. I cant cut intake/exhaust holes in there like I would like to so this is what I have to work with. I plan on getting stronger fans eventually.

The clones were the bottom 2 branches off the "mother" which I harvested already. I cut them in half to make a total of 4 clones. The 2 bottom halves were growing better so I kept them and the tops were dumped. They grew 2 nice branches that I topped at the 8th or 9th node to promote bushier growth. Throughout the entire grow I have been doing some LSTing and just started more serious LSTing today.

Monday was the first day of 12/12 so when do I start counting the days for flowering. From monday or when preflowers show? Ill be happy to answer any questions and comments yall have :thumbsup:

some pics
1-current pic of grow
2-the girls and lighting
3-small canopy shot

older pics
4-the 4 original clones (bottoms on the left tops on the right)
5-clones in 1 gallon pots in a rubbermaid growbox

xxxhazexxx

10-23-2007, 10:57 AM

very nice they look really healthy you will have some nice bud off them:thumbsup:

zebulon

10-23-2007, 12:48 PM

Really nice setup:thumbsup:...that CFL lighting system ,whit the Proc.cooling fans looks really good....:hippy:

iriebowl

10-24-2007, 12:40 AM

Ok so after only 1 day of 12/12 the 2 girls have popped a few hairs over night. I tried to take a couple pics but they all sucked so Ill wait a day for them to really show and fatten up.

Tomorrow will be the first feeding of tiger bloom 1/2 dose. I wanna get some molasses and start feeding them that also, to see how that affects sweetness.

since my preflower pics failed to focus on the actual preflower and only on the foliage behind it, heres some bud shots of the clones mom. Only got a small harvest from her but it was tasty none the less :jointsmile:.

pic 1-my homegrown buds
pic 2-my zong loaded and ready to "FIRE"

MVP

10-24-2007, 01:17 AM

Dude, rip that thang in pic 2... whatcha waiting for?!

:)

MVP

zebulon

10-24-2007, 03:56 PM

Those buds look really yummy:jointsmile:.....

iriebowl

10-25-2007, 09:54 AM

MVP - oh yeah i ripped that. dont got anymore of it though, not until december when i harvest the new batch.

zebulon - yup they were yummy, very sweet fruity taste and smell was a nose tingler. one rip and my eyes would close automatically and drop a tear of delight :) since it was bagseed and didnt come with name this time i like calling it "tear jerker"

cant wait til my girls start plumping up but its still a while til then.

gonna check out some UVB bulbs this week and see if they improve trichome development, and hopefully my "sugar mama" will be buying this time :)

zebulon

10-25-2007, 11:04 PM

About the molasses and how that affects sweetness....
A few years ago i had grown 5 plants outdoor (the strain was Dutch-Passions Trance) and near the plants there was a few wild-plum trees.I have collected the plums from under the trees, mashed them up good, and i gave that stuff to my plants...whit some water of course...And believe it or not, in the end, after i cured the buds for a few weeks, it had a lovely fruity, plumy aroma and it was nice sweet too...

iriebowl

10-27-2007, 03:27 AM

well this morning i got up early and noticed my exhaust vent had a major light leakage. so im just gonna do a ruff patch up til i get a light proof vent.

besides that its been all good and i redid my LSTing and trimmed alot of the lower leaves and growth since i had some leaves stacked on each other and were sweating.

stay irie

iriebowl

10-29-2007, 12:13 AM

ok so i checked the girls today and noticed some leaves had discoloration. i think its from 2 leaves laying on each other that creates some "sweat" and the "sweat" then cause the problem. its a darker color almost blackish so im guessing its a mold or a fungus growing from the moisture on the leaves. i have a fan blowing on them constantly to help prevent this but it seems to not be working, so does anyone have any ideas as to what is the cause? it hasnt affected them much, and isnt spreading quickly so id like to catch it before it causes major damage.

zebulon

10-29-2007, 04:18 AM

Well:wtf:...i think it could be wind damage and/or over-watering.....but i'm not 100% sure...sorry

iriebowl

10-30-2007, 06:39 AM

so its been 1 week of 12/12 and not much happening yet. they just really started to show some hairs emerging so the next week should start picking up more growth and actual bud formations.

on another note, the other night my sis made some "budder" then made some mini snickedoodles with it. we usually make brownies since our last cookies sucked but WOW these were nice and toasty :stoned:. gave my chi-ter(chihuahua toy fox terrier mix) a tiny bit and she was messed up all night big time LOL.

well these didnt come out so great either but what the hey, better than nothing.

hydrocannabis

10-30-2007, 07:28 AM

ok. but what does the plants look like as a whole now.

iriebowl

10-31-2007, 09:59 PM

heres some pics of the whole plants. they're looking better everyday now with new growth popping up everywhere. doing alot better than there mother did at this stage, so i cant wait til the upcoming weeks.

on the downside ive got fungus gnats again :(. i thought i got rid of them on the last transplant but i guess not. i even added a 1-2" top layer of foam rock but they're still here.

Rock.Steady

11-02-2007, 02:42 AM

Nice Grow:thumbsup:

iriebowl

11-02-2007, 08:06 AM

some pics from today after redoing some of the LSTing

iriebowl

11-05-2007, 06:31 AM

not much to talk about so heres some pics, had to edit them a lil in photoshop to clear them up. gonna start watering every other day since they have some crazy drainage and usually take a 3/4 gallon of water per pot. first sign of nute burn or over watering and ill hold off a day or 2 to recover

stay irie

hydrocannabis

11-06-2007, 04:01 PM

looking great so far.bro.

Shovelhandle

11-06-2007, 09:18 PM

Nothin wrong with that. Nice!

Shov

BigWeed

11-07-2007, 12:02 AM

Those girls look awesome and I see that you are using fox farm nutes. You might want to also add some of the fox farms big bloom also that stuff rocks gives the plants that extra kick in the buds and gives them a good taste also.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

iriebowl

11-07-2007, 12:23 AM

thanks for the comments all

ill see if my local hydro shop got some big bloom, but they're a bit pricey so i just might order it. im still on my search for molasses but come up empty every time. saw some on ebay but it was $20+ just for shipping a lil jar. hopefully i can find some at a health food store soon.

been having a ton of rain lately so humidity has been higher than usual so to fight that i been running my ma's ac from her room and making it blow towards my grow room :thumbsup: actually brought humidity down 12-15%.

some pics

klondike_bar

11-07-2007, 12:23 AM

glad to see just how good the cfls are. im running 3 of em (was 4, but they have a hait of one dieing in the first month per package) as well as 2 small floodlights and house bulb. mine are great, but its a great setup ya got, very professional.

iriebowl

11-08-2007, 06:09 AM

so this week i decided to switch my lights to 11/13 and see what happens and so far so good. overnight they almost doubled up in girth. did the last trim to the lower branches so production is focused to the tops, and they started making trichomes finally.

been thinking of some ideas of a new cab and found some nice things in the garage i can use. so far i have 2 small cabs around 18" x 24" x 36" that i can fully cut up if need be, then i have a bigger cab thats 2' x 3' x 5' but its made out of cherry so i dont wanna hack it up to much. im leaning towards the cherry cab since its bigger and has built in power already. ill gets some pics later so everyone can see.

stay irie

iriebowl

11-10-2007, 10:35 AM

yay mom came home today and she found some BRER rabbit molasses at foodland. to bad i watered them this morning before getting the molasses so it'll be a day or two till the molasses is tried.

saw a couple buds had some pistil damage and started browning :(, so hopefully they'll bounce back soon. on the up side they started to stink a lil this week. now more bad....... i think due to a past light leak it caused a type of herming on one of them. not full nuts but a female calyx with male parts popping out.

i might be getting a 150HPS too so when i do my next cab and grow ill have that to use along with the CFLs. might get 2 just for the heck of it since there on sale for $17.

stay irie

iriebowl

11-12-2007, 04:28 AM

looks like i been a week ahead of myself LOL. the girls are gonna start week 3 on monday, which turns out to be pretty good considering how much they grew. tomorrow they get fed molasses for the first time so ill be sure to watch for differences from my last grow from now on. smell has been stinking up alot :thumbsup: but not so much to cause issues. patched up the light leaks at the cost of a bit of ventilation, but not much.

first pic is the result of the light leak, although the mother plant did the same thing during flowering so it could be the strain. its hard to see but just under the hairs you can see green finger-like things.

spongebobsmokepants

11-12-2007, 05:05 AM

Rep up for a nice looking grow. I also started feeding Molasses about a week ago. I use 2 tbsp per gallon, is that what you use more or less?

iriebowl

11-12-2007, 06:06 AM

itll be my first time using molasses so im gonna start with 1 tbsp first then 2 tbsp once i get to the 4-5 week mark.

iriebowl

11-13-2007, 09:49 AM

ok im bored so i took some pics of my sis's "weapon" its about 18" glass on glass PHX ash catcher. on these bongs you dont get bubbles you get fat gurgles:stoned:. anyone else try one?? this is actually the second one since the first broke by a friend that got replaced within the hour by the breakee :jointsmile:.

last night i switched up my lighting configuration so it spreads light alot better. and it looks like they like it much better. though it could be the molasses they had today.

stay irie

iriebowl

11-17-2007, 10:38 AM

just a pic update. gonna be getting two 150hps on monday :thumbsup:and eventually DIY cooltube them and use a stanley blower for exhaust. the last pic is my new project cab, i hope to finish by the end of the year. not quite sure if i wanna section off 2 growing areas or just make 1 big one. dimensions are 20.5" x 36" x 54". its already got a intake slot on the bottom so i just need to make an exhaust vent at the top then light-proof and mylar it all.

any questions, advice or tips for my new project or grow just shoot away.

stay irie

zebulon

11-17-2007, 12:13 PM

Awesome:thumbsup:...

braddhaEEE

11-18-2007, 09:06 AM

Nice grow u got dea irie! Thanks for droppin by my thread by da way

smokenss

11-18-2007, 01:01 PM

cabin looks good. who would think that there would b pot growing in there , nice plants 2.:thumbsup:

iriebowl

11-18-2007, 10:14 PM

yeah that cab is a bit fancy being solid cherry wood and all but we got the whole set for FREE and tons of other furniture pieces. im "allowed" to use it as long as i dont ruin it, so im trying to devise a way to exhaust the cab. dont know if i should make a vent in the top and put my blower on the roof or make to vents on the top back and put the blower on a shelf in the cab. also thinking of just using my new cab as a flowering box and keeping moms and clones in another cab or rubbermaid.

thank goodness i dont need any type of carbon filter for my grow, cause they stink up my whole room now with the closet closed and its only 3 1/2 weeks in.

spongebob is watering my plants :thumbsup:

iriebowl

11-20-2007, 03:17 AM

got these via UPS today a lil after 4:20. just gotta wire um up to test them out then design something for them to mount to.

ordered me a stanley blower last night too so thats on its way as well. now to get all the little things to connect it all together and make a new cab.

zebulon

11-20-2007, 02:18 PM

Nice...i can't wait to see the new setup:thumbsup:

iriebowl

11-22-2007, 05:49 AM

well....... since getting the two 150s ive been thinking on what im gonna do with them, and how the "cherry cab" will be setup. what im thinking is a perpetual grow :thumbsup:.

flowering area will be 36"w x 36'h x 20.5"d and house the (2) 150hps. now here is another thinker on how to do my HPS setup.
should i DIY cooltube them in one bake-a-round or mounted side by side spaced equally, and im thinking batwing reflector either way.

veg/bonsai mums area will be 36"w x 18"h x 20.5"d and house the (8) 26w cfls and maybe (4) 18" 15w flouros. may need some help/advice on wiring the flouros up. is this gonna be an ok height to have mothers in or should it be taller? mother/s will be lst and topped of course.

gonna use a stanley blower for ventilation and plop it on the top of the cab. think i have to use a carbon scrubber this time since ill have a lil more than 2 girls flowering at a time. everything will be DIY to save money.

so does that sound like an ok design so far? comments and critique please.

UPDATE on girls. yum i cant wait to harvest. been feeding 1/2 gallon every 2 days (1tbsp molasses 1tbsp tiger bloom per gallon). i put one of the 150s on them as some sidelighting so the lower branches can bulk up. getting fatter everyday so i cant wait till 6 weeks and later.

thats about it so let me know what yall think so far :jointsmile:

stay irie

smokenss

11-22-2007, 07:04 AM

those buds r coming along nicely :thumbsup:

tokr2153

11-24-2007, 08:15 AM

looks really good irie when u get a chance post some pictures of that set up

braddhaEEE

11-27-2007, 06:28 AM

braddhaEEE

11-27-2007, 11:17 AM

Ok, I checked the temps now that the big midget plant is on the Lanai in the open but w/out fan, and light 3ft over the plant. Temps got up to 89 out there.
I checked out the Reflector hood at Kahala Hydro, and was makin a big difference. Gonna have to choose btween that..regular or DIY cooltube{Which obviously would b cheapest, and interesting to see. Oh, I posted more pics earlier tonite:thumbsup:

iriebowl

12-03-2007, 05:08 AM

ok finally started mocking up my cooltube and remote ballasts. still need some ducting supplies like adapters and pipe insulation. im also still waiting for my blower and roll of mylar to come in, hopefully this week ill get them so i can finish my cooltube. buds arent really getting any taller just a lil fatter and hairs are turning red. starting week 7 tomorrow so its almost time to start flushing nutes before harvest. been having crap weather lately with power outages and high humidity so its been a miserable week for me, on the upside my nephew turned 4 :D and had a fun party with a pinata. it was so funny when they broke open the pinata and a bunch of broken candy poured out LOL. next time mommy wont be using ring pops in there. we all ended up with candy its everywhere including kids hair :confused:. still good times though

stay irie

pic 1 is my remote ballast mockup
pic 2 is cooltube mockup
pic 3 is a sample i snipped and microwaved. tasted yummy.
last 2 are recent bud shots under the hps.

iriebowl

12-08-2007, 07:05 AM

new pics. buds are getting fatter everyday. finally got all my stuff in the mail, just need to put it together and running. last pic is pollinated bud so hopefully i get a few seeds for next grow. if not ill reveg them for cuttings. gonna give them one last tiger bloom feeding then straight water and molasses til harvest.

cwesto

12-08-2007, 07:45 AM

Irie how far thru bloom r u my buddy?????

Plants look like they r outa high times great my job my buddy :greenthumb: uve got the green thumb

braddhaEEE

12-08-2007, 09:07 AM

Wow, havent bin on ur log ina while. Ur girls lookin fine as hell man..mouth watering for real son:stoned:

zebulon

12-08-2007, 10:06 AM

omg....they look gr8 Irie....nice work:thumbsup:...
Btw..: whats up whit your new project cab???

smokenss

12-08-2007, 10:18 AM

lookn very sweet:thumbsup: ur about 1/2 a week in front of me but lookn at the red hairs and the crystals u look more like a week and a 1/2 in front :(

Shovelhandle

12-08-2007, 01:50 PM

Beautiful, man!

Shov

iriebowl

12-08-2007, 07:30 PM

thanks for the comments everyone.

cwesto - gonna be 7 weeks on sunday so its nearing harvest time.

zeb - as for my project cab.................its been on hold due to bad weather since the rains been blowing sideways and drenched my basement/garage. now the back of the cab is wet and trying to dry, hopefully without any mold or fungus inhibiting it. debating whether i should scrap it an look for a new cab or just refurb it, probably gonna refurb since its cheaper.

BigWeed

12-08-2007, 08:04 PM

Ney those girls look great nice and yummy. Keep up the good work.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

iriebowl

12-09-2007, 04:01 AM

after putting up some mylar i started to notice my tops were a lil amber so i checked them with the pocket micro and sure enough the trichs are getting amber. so im gonna harvest next week and get some x-mas/new year homegrown :jointsmile:. was hoping for a lil more weight on them but ehh no biggie, next time will be bigger and better now that i got more experience and better equipment.

iriebowl

12-15-2007, 01:22 AM

just some pics before i harvest. probably in a day or two will be the actual harvest and new pics again. got a bunch of amber trichs on my tops but the lower buds are still clear and just getting cloudy.

hydrocannabis

12-15-2007, 02:42 AM

hot damm.

iriebowl

12-16-2007, 02:03 PM

ok just finished harvesting 1 plant, and it took longer than expected so im gonna do the other in the morning. pics will be later when im all done. gonna root trim and repot also and hope they dont freakout to much and die. i did get a couple seeds though 2-4 so ill some thing for next time if reveg goes bad.

be back soon

Shovelhandle

12-16-2007, 02:44 PM

it's gonna be a good batch, I'm sure.

Sho

zebulon

12-16-2007, 06:04 PM

Lookin' awesome Irie....:thumbsup:
I can't wait to see the dry weed...

iriebowl

12-17-2007, 11:26 PM

finally got them both cut and trimmed up. still need to root trim them both and repot but ill do that later. filled my whole box up with buds this time and got a bunch of trim for hash making later. any suggestions on how to make some bubble/ice hash or at least what brand coffee filter to use to strain trichs. got some mr coffee filters in the basement but not sure if they work ok.

stay irie

1 - plant 1

2 - plant 2

3,4,5 - buds, buds, and more buds

Completely Stoned

12-18-2007, 05:30 AM

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I hate you. Your budZ is bomb. I'm all out tonight. Bummer Days :(

iriebowl

12-18-2007, 07:34 AM

did the root trim and repotted in to 1 gallon pots. left about a 4 inch cube of root mass and added new soil to all sides. gave them a good watering and drainage was perfect. next watering will have grow big and molasses. im really curious as to how this will turn out being my first reveg attempt :thumbsup:. im hoping to see some new growth in a few weeks if not sooner. keeping my fingers crossed

smokenss

12-18-2007, 08:23 AM

good luck with reveg i have done that a few times b4 but i think starting again with clones is a better way to go less chance of nute lock out plus faster growth earlyer but that my experience, those buds look gr8 well done.
hey C/stoned im out 2 scraped out the black death from the bong and started smoking that 2day, oz here 2morrow(well better b anyway )

iriebowl

12-25-2007, 06:58 AM

Mele Kalikimaka everyone!!

buds are all dry and now all jarred up for the cure. dry weight is 74.4 grams which surprised me. only thought i was gonna yeild a ounce or ounce1/2. has a very piney smell with a hint of bubblegum. ill get pics up soon. gonna dump the revegs and start from seed all over but keep a mum this time for cloning.

have a happy holiday season and toke it up

stay irie

hydrocannabis

12-25-2007, 06:36 PM

this grow looks so damm damm good that I have to ask what kind of soil U used for this beautiful grow?

cuz my soil sucks ass and I need a new kind of soil. thanks.

iriebowl

12-25-2007, 08:23 PM

my soil was that miracle grow organic soil, then i mixed in 1 bag of peat moss and about 2 bags of perlite/vermiculite(foam rock in my case), couple scoops of chicken shit. mixed all that up in rubbermaid bin and let it "cook" for a week or two. check the ph and if its 6.5-6.8 range then your all set.

need to do some soil conditioning to my soil bin though since its a lil hot with ph of 7.4. gotta add more peat and let it cook down.

hydrocannabis

12-26-2007, 03:19 AM

thanks.

braddhaEEE

12-27-2007, 09:50 AM

Ho killa, nice harvest man:stoned:. also mean da shaka re veg:smokin: lol. Hmm, wanna see how da re veg turns out too..Wuchu growin nxt? Shootz bah, we gota herb em sumtime my man.

iriebowl

12-27-2007, 10:02 AM

Ho killa, nice harvest man:stoned:. also mean da shaka re veg:smokin: lol. Hmm, wanna see how da re veg turns out too..Wuchu growin nxt? Shootz bah, we gota herb em sumtime my man.

fo sho. next grow will be bagseed and the seeds i got from my last plant, might order some mandala seeds (hashberry) but still looking around. the reveg is yellowing a bit but i thinks its from the soil being a bit hot. dont think theyre gonna make it but you never know.

braddhaEEE

12-28-2007, 02:33 AM

Yo, my friends friend might b sellin sum b 52 X trainwreck seeds. I scored few beans, but he on the big island now. Leme know if u lyk, ill ask wen he gets bak.

fUNKYcDOG

12-28-2007, 02:40 AM

damn, you took care of those girls. congrats. enjoy what the earth has to offer my friend....... :rastasmoke:

iriebowl

12-30-2007, 07:05 AM

signs of revegging has started on both plants :thumbsup: so im gonna keep them going as long as i can and hopefully make some bonsai mums out of them. i also added 2 more 26 watt cfls but they're 6500k. so in total i got 4x26w (104watts 6800lumens) 2x2700k and 2x6500k. i thinks the blues helped the reveg start up better.

scored some kali mist beans(only 2) from a friend of a friend so gonna give them a go in my next run along with my homegrown beans :jointsmile: which i hope turn out fem since it was self pollinated. gonna try doing a DWC with one of them to get some hydro experience.

pics 1 and 2 are typical reveg leafs forming.
pic 3 is my homegrown beans
pics 4 and 5 my harvest curing

iriebowl

01-15-2008, 06:02 AM

update on my reveg attempt. made a veg cab dimensions are 1 x 1 1/2 x 2. i have two 3" pc fans exhausting and three 1" holes for a passive intake. i killed off the slower growing one and since then this plant has started more growth and just got its first serrated finger leaf. i took out the two 2700k and moved both 6500k bulbs on one side.

stay irie

iriebowl

01-19-2008, 09:32 AM

went to the hydro shop today and picked up some rockwool and 5 inch net pots. gonna rig up a simple DWC bucket and try my luck at it. so far i got 2 air pumps a aqua garden 7500 and a tetra tec deepwater DW96-2 with a 5 inch air stone. i have a 4 gallon square bucket painted black with the top covered with foil tape. gonna use a smaller 1 gallon bucket to veg and transfer it into the 4 gallon for flowering. fox farms nutes all the way since thats what i got. ill get some pics up later on

stay irie

braddhaEEE

01-27-2008, 08:28 AM

yo irie, i went update my thread. Oh, u eva gone hydro or dwc?

iriebowl

01-27-2008, 11:11 AM

braddhaEEE: nope this is my first attempt at hydro growing. got everything i need, just need to sprout some beans or root some clones now. but before i do that i need to get my cab cleaned and lights put together and running with the exhaust. by then my reveg should be ready to take some clones, if not ill sprout my beans.

reveg is coming along nice. lots of new shoots, although i did hack off the other half of the plant its doing all around better without it. did a lil LSTing to even up the shoots.