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eg420ne
10-22-2007, 09:56 PM
LoL, this is for you left gatekeepers.....hahahaha blind people say, what treason...hahahahahaha. I can bring up over thousand of articles that show treason... you left-gatekeepers continue with your blindness then i think you y'all should hi-tell over to iraq.....and finish what these traitors have started, ohh thats what Hillary for..Israel-Bush-LIES===hahahahahahaha
this is an odie but a goodie....read it a weep you left-gatekeepers Neocon Treason

by Paul Craig Roberts
Having experienced the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations, do Americans wish they had elected Patrick J. Buchanan president? Was Buchanan America's last chance to put a true patriot in the Oval Office?

America was meant to cultivate its own garden, to steer clear of foreign entanglements and permanent alliances, and to serve as an example to others. Instead, the U.S. has become a "democratic imperialist."

In a new book dedicated to Ronald Reagan, Where the Right Went Wrong: How Neoconservatives Subverted the Reagan Revolution and Hijacked the Bush Presidency, Buchanan rues the rise of Jacobin America. A neoconservative cabal allied with Israel's right-wing Likud Party has captured our government and initiated a new crusade against Islam.

In a chapter that is must reading for every American who thinks President Bush should be reelected, Buchanan asks: "Who are they, the neoconservatives?"

When you find out, you will want nothing further to do with the president who sponsored them and gave them unbridled power to launch America into permanent war in the Middle East.

The neocons have declared America at war with 1 billion Muslims who have done us no harm. Simultaneously, the neocons destroyed our traditional alliances. Instead of isolating a terrorist enemy, neocons have isolated America.

Al-Qaeda is not a state or a country. It is a non-governmental organization that rejects America's decadent culture and opposes the U.S.-Israeli alliance that brutally oppresses Palestinians to the shame of all Muslims.

It is impossible to fight al-Qaeda by invading and occupying Muslim countries. Bush's invasion of Iraq has achieved nothing for the U.S. but death and expense. For al-Qaeda it has radicalized the Muslim world and created recruits.

"The neoconservatives," writes Buchanan, "are marinated in conceit, and their hubris may yet prove their undoing. And ours as well."

The failure of the U.S. occupation in Iraq has certainly demonstrated the limits to U.S. hegemony. Despite limited armed opposition, U.S. military forces do not seem able to control a single Iraqi city. If rebellion were to become general or if Iraqis had effective weapons against tanks and air power, the U.S. would have to withdraw its army.

Buchanan explains how the neocons used the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center to put into operation their preconceived plan, drafted years prior to Sept. 11, to invade Iraq.

In 1996, neoconservatives currently serving in the Bush administration wrote a policy paper for Israeli right-wing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In the policy paper, Douglas Feith (currently undersecretary of defense), David Wurmser (VP Cheney's staff) and Richard Perle (Defense Review Board) called for "removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq â?? an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right."

Today the entire world, with the exception of the propagandized American public, knows that Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. But for "Washington's Likudniks," that was beside the point. It was Israel's interests that they had in mind, not America's. Osama bin Laden got away while the U.S. was diverted into invading Iraq.

In 1997 Feith wrote in his "Strategy for Israel" that the U.S. and Israel should conquer Iraq, Syria, and Iran. Moreover, Israel should reoccupy "the areas under Palestinian Authority control," though "the price in blood would be high."

We are now watching this neocon strategy unfold. Iraq has been invaded. Israel's Likud Party, with U.S. complicity, is grabbing more of the Palestinian West Bank. Last week, neocon Undersecretary of State John Bolton began beating the war drums against Iran for allegedly possessing weapons of mass destruction that "pose grave threats to international society."

Writing in the Wall Street Journal, neocon Max Boot defined support for Israel as a "key tenet of neoconservatism." What, asks Buchanan, about support for America? America's interest should be the focus of the Bush administration. When did America's interests become subsumed in the interests of Israel's right-wing Likud Party?



If Americans don't want a generation of sons dying in Middle Eastern deserts, they had best take Buchanan's question to heart.

Neocon Treason - by Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=3436)

eg420ne
10-22-2007, 10:02 PM
From-http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorial/71
To those that question the assertion that the Bush Administration is treasonous, we will return, yet again, to one of the most egregious examples of their betrayal. That is the exposure of a CIA operative specializing in the tracking of the illicit sales of Weapons of Mass Destruction

If you have initiated and conducted a three year ruinous war by telling the American people that a nation had Weapons of Mass Destruction, and if you are trying to pull America into another war because of a claim that a nation -- Iran -- might develop Weapons of Mass Destruction, isn't it treason to intentionally render useless a CIA operative who specializes in tracking the illegal sales and transfer of Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Gandalf_The_Grey
10-22-2007, 10:05 PM
Ok eg420ne, now you're making thread after thread after tread to pound the same point; your fast becoming :spam2: . The hysterical emotionally-charged nature of your writings and erratic posting is almost leading me to believe you're on some kind of amphetamine; though more likely an unstable psychological state of it's own accord.

You need to take some deep breaths, go out and get some fresh air, and calm down. Enough with the agressive rantings at the "left gatekeepers" (whatever that is); at least keep one argument in one thread.

eg420ne
10-22-2007, 10:15 PM
LoL is that the best you can do.......oh no, dont mention how israel make congress and the prez obey them....

really dude idc what you think stay out of my thread if you dont like it......

and dude im drug free...so stfu

eg420ne
10-22-2007, 10:18 PM
Hey what do you think about Israels involvment in our goverment, youd thinks its good that other nations have control of our policy making...man i feel bad for the left-wing, the republicans gonna nail y'all....

delusionsofNORMALity
10-22-2007, 10:20 PM
.... your fast becoming :spam2: . The hysterical emotionally-charged nature of your writings and erratic posting is almost leading me to believe you're on some kind of amphetamine; though more likely an unstable psychological state of it's own accord.

his rantings are sure signs of someone in love with the sound their own rhetoric, most likely the result of taking life too seriously or maybe it was improper potty training. even toward the end of my ten year sojourn as a speed freak i didn't sound half so incoherent.

you're probably right about the instability though.

eg420ne
10-22-2007, 10:22 PM
LoL there goes another one:stupid:

eg420ne
10-22-2007, 10:24 PM
yeah i guess for a person who can travel the states in his own car visiting friends n family, in order to help out with their debts and home life is a sign of instability...oh yeah my uncle said to quit smoking that reefer cause your tooo funny

eg420ne
10-22-2007, 10:30 PM
you know whats funny these two people come on to my thread attacking me but wont say anything about what they think about israel involvment in our government, and its treaous action along with the bush regime....its sad to even think your americans......

birdgirl73
10-22-2007, 10:32 PM
EG, sorry, but I think that post you reported raises a worthy question. You are, as is often the case, on a single-minded rant and you do raise suspicions when that happens. You also lose all chances of ever being listened to or taken seriously. You're about to lose your avatar, too, and don't put it back up after I delete it unless you want a vacation from this site.

eg420ne
10-22-2007, 10:35 PM
WoW!!!!...wheres my buddy p4b when i need him...lol

eg420ne
10-22-2007, 10:36 PM
but im drug free dont have no personality disoders.....thankyou for being a caring mod who knows my condition...

birdgirl73
10-22-2007, 10:38 PM
You have Obnoxious Personality Disorder, frankly. A near terminal case of it.

You're very welcome.

eg420ne
10-22-2007, 10:46 PM
LoL.........thanks

Gandalf_The_Grey
10-22-2007, 10:49 PM
Hmmmm, I got exactly the response I was expecting too. Like I said eg420ne, you need to calm down. Nobody wants to debate you any more because your posts are becoming semi-incomprehensible rants and your hostility is making the discussion rather unenjoyable. I don't care enough any more to debate with somebody acting so manic that it's obvious I won't get any point through. Not everything is a matter of battling ego's; the hostility and incoherence we're getting from you has well overshadowed any healthy debate.


EDIT: BTW, I've been in the manic hyper-defensive mindstate myself. Whether or not you agree with me, I don't think less of you for it.

birdgirl73
10-22-2007, 10:53 PM
The sad thing is I think EG420ne really wants to be heard. But he gets overheated and alienates the people he's trying to persuade instead of getting through to them. The worst part is that I lean to the left politically, too, but if he's an example of that, I will seriously have to rethink my position. He, fortunately, doesn't reflect the views of the intelligent liberals I know and respect.

delusionsofNORMALity
10-23-2007, 12:04 AM
The worst part is that I lean to the left politically, too, but if he's an example of that, I will seriously have to rethink my position. He, fortunately, doesn't reflect the views of the intelligent liberals I know and respect.
the worst part is that he actually does represent a large portion of the liberal community and, unless things change radically, the future of liberal thought.
fer cryin' out loud; i'm an anarcho-communist, how much more left wing can you get, and these whinny nouveau-liberals make me want to puke with their nanny-state over legislation and white middle-class angst. it's not their stated goals of easing suffering and providing for the deserving, but their unstated goals of socialist totalitarianism and equality through mediocrity that drive me to oppose them so vehemently.

mfqr
10-23-2007, 12:08 AM
the worst part is that he actually does represent a large portion of the liberal community and, unless things change radically, the future of liberal thought.
fer cryin' out loud; i'm an anarcho-communist, how much more left wing can you get, and these whinny nouveau-liberals make me want to puke with their nanny-state over legislation and white middle-class angst. it's not their stated goals of easing suffering and providing for the deserving, but their unstated goals of socialist totalitarianism and equality through mediocrity that drive me to oppose them so vehemently.

And where did you get the idea that he does represent a large portion of the liberal community?

Psycho4Bud
10-23-2007, 12:25 AM
Well, I think I'll just close this one up.........

Have a good one!:jointsmile: