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NorCal Grown
10-20-2007, 05:45 PM
Anyone know what causes this?? :wtf: Maybe its common, but I have never seen it before. Nirvana Big Bud from seed, 4 weeks old.

Mrs. Greenjeans
10-20-2007, 06:26 PM
Causes what? I don't see any problems. If you're talking about the side growth, what causes that is good light penetration. Your plant is happy and growing. Am I missing something?

NorCal Grown
10-20-2007, 06:56 PM
The branches are not lined up, sort of random growth, and gets worse the higher up the plant you go. Maybe this pic will help.

Mrs. Greenjeans
10-20-2007, 09:25 PM
Ahhh, I see what you mean. Well, don't take this to the bank, but I read somewhere that females tend to exhibit that erratic branching, while males are more symmetrical. Ain't that just like a woman to be all over the place? ;)

edited to add: Do you know the sex on this yet? If it turns out to be female, let me know. I'm interested in testing that theory.

home.grower
10-20-2007, 09:31 PM
^^ I tend to agree... previous males in my garden have been quite uniform, too good to be women.. but i'm currently looking a 3 sexy females that display uneven and random nodes/internodes which almost look like it they are supposed to be that way. 3 clones from the same mother that are growing identically show me that that randomness has some kind of order...

NorCal Grown
10-20-2007, 10:30 PM
well thats good to know, might be a female. weird part is i only had this happen to these 2 plants, at the same time. they will be going under 12/12 very soon, i'll post if they turn out female.

one other question, if plants are left under 24hr light will they show sex after a few months old?

wman44
11-03-2007, 10:12 PM
in my experience male and female plants will exhibit this type of branch growth based on the age of the plant, usually about a month into veg. from what i've read its a sign that the plant is mature enough to induce flowering

klondike_bar
11-03-2007, 10:31 PM
lol...it cant just be female...my male split its 5-blade leaf in half and shuffled 3 of the blades a 1/2" further down the fan stem????

looks pretty retarded that way..

personally, yor plant is COVERED in branching and leaves, so dont complain

20dollarholla
11-04-2007, 10:27 AM
In my experience, I notice that that happens to my plants if they are from clone. I have never seen a plant from seed do this.


Good looking healthy plant though, I wouldnt worry about it all the plants I have growing look the very same(not lining up)

dejayou30
11-04-2007, 05:05 PM
They start to grow alternating nodes when they get older.

the image reaper
11-04-2007, 07:38 PM
They start to grow alternating nodes when they get older.

Correct ! we have a winner ! :thumbsup: ... alternating nodes indicate when the plant is sufficiently mature to begin flowering, and/or seed production ... this is the point at which I switch my plants to 12/12 lighting schedule ... (they look like that when they originate from a clone, because a clone is, technically, a mature plant, although just a piece of it - IF you've never seen your plant alternate, then you have never vegged a plant to maturity, and you flowered too early) ... :smokin:

Mrs. Greenjeans
11-05-2007, 01:11 AM
I thought he meant this was something new and erratic, not the regular alternating that you see with maturity. So he's never vegged a plant before?

I answered him from the standpoint of someone who has grown before. Sorry NorCal, my bad.

Now, if you notice irregular branching that isn't related to normal age of the plant, then let me know if it's female. My males have always been much more symmetrical.

stinkyattic
11-05-2007, 11:26 AM
Your plant is showing that it is sexually mature. That's all the alternating nodes mean. You may now flower it if you like.

20dollarholla
11-05-2007, 12:53 PM
Your plant is showing that it is sexually mature. That's all the alternating nodes mean. You may now flower it if you like.

I always wait for the preflowers to show before flipping the lights.

It makes sense that a plant from seed will show alternating nodes when sexually mature, then the clone will show it from the beginning since it is already a mature plant.

I thought it had to do with the plant reverting back into veg. I learn something new everyday here!

Comatose
11-05-2007, 03:02 PM
Grow 101: Alternating nodes indicates maturity. The ball is still in your court as to what happens to it.

c of green
11-05-2007, 03:57 PM
i looked at the pics for a long time before i realized your just new to growing....yours plant has reached maturity:beatdeadhorse: lol(sorry...just trying to get my post count up)

NorCal Grown
11-06-2007, 02:02 AM
Wow, forgot all about this post...... To answer a few questions: I thought it was alternating nodes, indicating maturity. I am not that new to growing, just never had the space to veg out large plants. Thanks to all for your help/input!!

stinkyattic
11-06-2007, 07:00 PM
Yup! You're right, it is alternating nodes. Those pics illustrate that nicely actually.