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Ghengis Chron
10-19-2007, 02:53 PM
I've read many many books on the subject of extraterrestrials, 'ancient astronauts', conspiracy theories, ect. I've been able to devolope my own system of beliefs.

I'll start out with the Sumerians (present day Iraq...interesting we're still fighting over that region) The Sumerians are interesting to me because our history says that these people suddenly appeared. With all these new innovative devolopments. Many things today we can thank the Sumerians for. First known writing system was devoloped by the Sumerians, first wheeled vehicle, highly atoned to the astronomy, the list goes on...

Now, a theory presented to me was an extra-terrestrial race had come to earth and created us. The story goes, these ET's, called the "Annunaki" seen as gods by the Sumerians, lived on a planet called "Nibiru". Similar to us, the Annunaki were having trouble with their atmosphere, but possessed the technology to some how repair the atmosphere using gold.
Once Nibiru was close enough, the Annunaki sent out an expedition to Earth in search of Gold. (Some believe 2012 is the next time Nibiru will be back. It is believed that a planet of this magnitude causes catastrophic changes to our planet, polar shifts, earthquakes, eruptions, ect. Hence the "Great Flood".)
The Annunaki built two space stations, one in south Africa and one in Mesopotamia (Sumer). Which makes sense because the oldest known human skeleton was found in Africa, and the oldest known Civilization (which suddenly sprung up) was found in Mesopotamia.

The Annunaki miners in Africa began to rebel due to the harsh mining conditions. So the Annunaki leaders decided to genetically modify the native species in that area...our ancestors, homo erectus or whatever it was, into what we are today. If you think about it, it is said that we're animals, however there's something that sets us apart from Earth's animals. There is an equilibrium between every life form on Earth, and we're not part of that equilibrium. So we now have a "slave race" if you will, to mine the gold for them.

The Pyramids are an interesting subject. It is said the pyramids were built to represent mountains, Mt. Ararat, to be exact. This way, any alien spacecrafts coming in to land, can use Mt. Ararat and the Great Pyramids of Giza as a reference point to where they're going to land. Apparently, the Pyramid had a great crystal cap on the top, made for reflecting the sun, a lighthouse basically. It is interesting to note the Pyramids are lined up exactly with Orion's belt. They are so mathematically precise, it is believed we don't even have the technology today to recreate such a wonder. Also interestingly, It is said there are water marks on the Pyramids and Sphinx, obviously indicating water on the Giza Plateau, something that hasn't happened since way before the Egyptians.

I could go on and on about this subject. But I truly believe the answers to our questions are within the ancient monuments on earth. Check out the ancient Nazca lines, obviously there was no flight technology back then, who could they be making these pictures to see? God? Where did they first get the notion that God was "up"? How does a civilization in Peru and civilizations in Europe and Asia just happen to also believe God was up. Look at the Mayans, incredibly intelligent people. Invented the notion "zero", immensely intelligent in the field of astronomy. And, as you all know, similar pyramids to Egypt, a civilization thousands of miles away across an entire ocean.

Delta9 UK
10-19-2007, 05:04 PM
If Aliens can cross galactic space BUT need a Pyramid to point out where to land - they really are screwed.

No wonder they keep crashing ;)

As for the rest - learn more biology and you will understand better that there is very little that makes us stand apart from animals.

Now I'm not trying to be a kill-joy so here is some similar stuff:
http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/siriusb.htm

Ghengis Chron
10-19-2007, 06:11 PM
If Aliens can cross galactic space BUT need a Pyramid to point out where to land - they really are screwed.

No wonder they keep crashing ;)

As for the rest - learn more biology and you will understand better that there is very little that makes us stand apart from animals.

Now I'm not trying to be a kill-joy so here is some similar stuff:
http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/siriusb.htm


Who says they had to cross "Galactic Space"? We really still don't know anything about the Universe. space, and it's properties.

Ahh...but there is SOMETHING, that makes us stand apart from animals.

snowblind
10-19-2007, 06:18 PM
you basically explained the answer in the start of your explination. they didnt just appear. but they did devlop the first writing systems.

interesting. you follow the logic

Delta9 UK
10-19-2007, 06:52 PM
Who says they had to cross "Galactic Space"? We really still don't know anything about the Universe. space, and it's properties.


Well OK, but if they come from another star system (and not our own - i.e. future versions of us) then they would have to travel a bit.

If they don't travel - lets say they lense space time and bend it to them, well I still think needing pyramids to land is a bit stupid.



+ Ahh...but there is SOMETHING, that makes us stand apart from animals.

Yes, Pizza - and the delivery boy is here now so I'm off.

j/k - the 'something' is your ego.

Ghengis Chron
10-19-2007, 09:03 PM
Well OK, but if they come from another star system (and not our own - i.e. future versions of us) then they would have to travel a bit.

If they don't travel - lets say they lense space time and bend it to them, well I still think needing pyramids to land is a bit stupid.



Yes, Pizza - and the delivery boy is here now so I'm off.

j/k - the 'something' is your ego.


My ego....? This is what I think, has nothing to do with my ego. If you disagree with it, fine, let's discuss, but to say it's "stupid" is out of line, and immature....Sounds like someone is uncomfortable with this stuff...

cadmiumblimp
10-19-2007, 09:09 PM
He doesn't mean that kind of ego. He means like Id, Ego, Superego (I think that's what the third one is...), that sort of thing.

Coelho
10-19-2007, 09:22 PM
Well... i agree that the notion of an "ego" is both the bless and the curse of the human beings... the notion that there is one "me" that is separed from the "outside world" probably is what make us so different of the animals, but also is what makes us more sutpid than them. This notion make us more inclined to defend ourselves, to keep food for ourselves, to search shelter for ourselves, and so... or course, it is a very biological advantage, and it allowed us to survive, make societies, and arrive in the point we arrived today.
BUT, it has its drawbacks. The our "ego" is a (very small) part of the world, not the world itself. Most people lives for their egos, most people are slaves of their egos. They think their egos are the most important thing in the world, and dont understant that they are just a very small part of the world. They forget everything in the world is inter-related, and that what is causing the problems we live today, like destrucition of the environment, ambiental catastrophes, hunger, wars, and so... And im sure the cult of the ego is what will make the human race to destroy itself in the (not so far) future.
Only the plants and cockroaches will survive... as they are older, wiser, and egoless...
(And, of course they are wiser... cannabis is a plant! :stoned:)

Ghengis Chron
10-19-2007, 09:27 PM
But where did we get this egos? Do animals have Egos? What exactly is IT, that separates us from animals.

Coelho
10-19-2007, 09:49 PM
Well... most animals dont have the consciousness of themselves... if im not mistaken, the only ones who have a consciouness of theirselves are the apes and the dolphins...
I think the ego appears with the reflexion of our awareness... like, every percieving being has awareness of its surroundings, as they see, hear, and so.
But we humans have awareness of our awareness. We percieve that we percieve. I dont just see... i see, and im aware that i see. So, im aware of my own awareness.
But if i know that i see, then i may ask "who is seing"? And i will answer "me". I think the notion of a self starts there.
Its only what i can answer... it may even be wrong, but its in what i believe. And, for me, it makes some sense.

Canadian_Cron
10-29-2007, 03:44 AM
The Sumerians are interesting to me because our history says that these people suddenly appeared. With all these new innovative devolopments. Many things today we can thank the Sumerians for. First known writing system was devoloped by the Sumerians, first wheeled vehicle, highly atoned to the astronomy, the list goes on...

oldest known human skeleton was found in Africa

Great Pyramids of Giza as a reference point to where they're going to land.

Also interestingly, It is said there are water marks on the Pyramids and Sphinx, obviously indicating water on the Giza Plateau, something that hasn't happened since way before the Egyptians.


the sumarians were the 1st to discover writing and the ability to construct buildings... then its no wonder that they are the 1st recorded people that just "popped up." how else can scientists tell if people where ever here usually skeletons are broken down into nothing. and they dont tend to look for them in random places, unless they find a settlement of some sort.

also the creation mespotamia and the sumarian civilization came waaaay waaaay before the great pyramid was ever built... and the pyramids and spinx are from 2 totally different time periods hundred and hundreds of years apart, the theory is that the spinx was built when there was tropical rainforest surrounding the nile which was proven to be true, thats where the water marks came from.

it makes no sense if aliens could make it to earth... they why did they start off here with such crude technology? if they needed a landing point then y didnt they build one when they landed instead of waiting such a long ass time to build the great pyramid (which isnt where they laneded origionally according to you)...? also if the great pyramid was a beacon then how do you explain the others in egypt? and simiar pyramids around the world like the mayan temples? and finally why are we so genetically simiar to other species on earth if we are infact aleins?

this doeant seem like a very logical explantion to me...