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skunky8977
10-18-2007, 05:10 PM
If i used Bat guano 10-2-0 from sunleaves durring veg? can i use it for a top layer cause its allready in the pot im using all the way through so mixing would be out? And how much would i use and would that be good enough for veg stage?

twoguysupnorth
10-18-2007, 06:41 PM
i know there are different guanos, one for flowering and one for veg. i have only used the flowering type. you can topdress with it, it works the best if you scratch up the surface with a fork or something then apply, and try to stir it in a little with the fork again. it keeps the fan from blowing the powder around and spreads it more evenly. the directions should be on the bag, mine was something like a tablespoon full for a 10 in" pot per month. i added a little extra because i didnt want to have to do it again.

skunky8977
10-18-2007, 07:45 PM
was that all you needed or did you use somethings else with the bat guano?

Mr. Clandestine
10-18-2007, 10:25 PM
I also only use guano for flowering, but I generally make a dilute "tea" by mixing it with hot water, letting it cool, and watering with it. I tend to use fish emulsion and blood meal exclusively during veg (and synthetic chemicals if I notice a deficiency). I fertilize by making a similar tea, and have been very successful in the past. So, instead of adding it to the top layer of soil, why not just dilute it with water and feed as normal?

twoguysupnorth
10-19-2007, 05:18 AM
i wish that was all i needed, i added a little something for nitrogen during flowereing. it honestly did good by itself, but i would add a little more, because it didnt last as long as it should. worm castings are great in my book but it even needed a little phospherous towards the end of flowering. molasses are good too if you dont over do them. i had the guano and worm castings the first time, now i have fish juice too. im not sure what they will do. i would like a little potassium naturally, any suggestions?

skunky8977
10-19-2007, 10:33 AM
what about pot ash, kelp meal,seaweed extract, green sand?

Mr. Clandestine
10-19-2007, 08:27 PM
i would like a little potassium naturally, any suggestions?

A while back, I owned a landscaping business, and we occasionally used a product called "Nutra Sorb K-Prime" on golf course turf and commercial lawns. It was extremely high in potassium, was water soluble, and came from a company called Organic Laboratories, Inc. I'm not 100% sure if the product is entirely organic in nature, but it might be worth looking into. I think they have a website, too...I'm pretty sure it's either "www.organiclaboratories.com" or "www.organiclabs.com".

twoguysupnorth
10-20-2007, 01:55 PM
thanks for the suggestions. ill look into them.