need help with nute burn

[Bramptony]

k so im almsot 100% sure i ahve nute burn which shouldnt come as much of a suprise, but i think its because my soild is too ... hot ? i think is the way its described

i recently bought a ph test kit and found out that the natural spring water i was using was about 7.5 ph which is too high so i adjusted the ph in about 8 bottles of water and will be using that to water them, i also attempted to flush one plant to see if it would help

i was wondering if anyone has tips on flushing plants and anyway to have the whole plant/soil NOT totally wet when ur done flushing, also how can you tell that youve conquered your nute burn ?

and i also have a sort of grey/white fluffy stuff on the surface of my dirt im not sure if this is mold , its not on the plant just the dirt

[gainesvillegreen]

Are you able to post pictures? or better describe the visual state of your plants? It is more than possible that you don't have nutrient burn but have locked out the ability of your plants to absorb nutrients due to the higher pH.

[Bramptony]

does locking out nutrients leaves your plants with partially fried yellow leaves that are crispy and look liek dead grass ?

[gainesvillegreen]

Yes, it can do exactly that. Fill out the troubleshooting form at the top of the forum to give us some more information. Some pictures would be very beneficial for diagnosis.

[water]

dude in all honesty ph is irrelivant in soil

soil buffers the ph so u dont need to worry bout it

just give plain water for the next 2 feeds and wait till ur plants tells you to feed her


good luck



water

[Comatose]

dude in all honesty ph is irrelivant in soil

soil buffers the ph so u dont need to worry bout it

Ummm... yeah..... if you think pH doesn't matter in soil, you're nuts. Having a buffer in the soil is a great thing, and it does try and hold the pH solid.

But, as salts build up in the soild from root production and nutrient absorption, and water at an incorrect pH is added on a consistent basis, those buffers wouldn't be holding anymore. A buffer can only do so much.

Plus, most commercial soils do not come with a buffer. People add the buffer in themselves, which he obviously doesn't know how to do. His soil probably came with about 90% peat moss, which definately is not a buffer or in the right pH range.

Fix your pH, it is almost certainly your problem.

PS: Yes, that white stuff on the soil surface sounds like mold. Scrape it away and make a little cover for the soil surface to keep it dark. You can also try a fungicide.

[Bramptony]

yah, my soil is like 75 % peat moss, is that a bad thing ?
im currently in the process of flushing all my plants with a lower ph water, but i have to do it one at a time because the excess wet soil, makes the humidity go up in my cab and then i get these little flies

also, i was wondering, one of my plants was practically falling over earlier last week so i attempted to strighten it up and while i was lifting to an upright position i heard the stem make a snap noise, the stem did not break in 2 but it made that noise so i held it up with a fork and in the next 3 days it has become a Lot stronger , especially the stem and shot out a massive set of leaves and now is growing stronger than any other plants
is this normal ?

[the image reaper]

dude in all honesty ph is irrelivant in soil

soil buffers the ph so u dont need to worry bout it

just give plain water for the next 2 feeds and wait till ur plants tells you to feed her


good luck



water

WRONG ... pH is very important, soil or otherwise ... in an outdoor grow, it will tolerate a lot more variance, as the soil can buffer to some extent, but in pots, pH is critical ... :smokin:

[gainesvillegreen]

dude in all honesty ph is irrelivant in soil

soil buffers the ph so u dont need to worry bout it

just give plain water for the next 2 feeds and wait till ur plants tells you to feed her


good luck



water

Dude, in all honesty, don't advise people on topics with which you obviously are not familiar. pH is NOT irrelevant in soil, but is just as important in a hydroponic setup. You are correct about soil buffering pH more than a hydroponic nutrient solution, but that changes nothing.

Bramptony, you need to complete a soil-runoff pH test to determine the pH of your growing medium. Peat moss is acidic and does not lend itself well to growing GOD's gift (aka marijuana). Depending on how your medium tests, you will need to flush it to adjust your pH.

You posted that you are watering with a lower pH solution, but chances are that you will need to use a more alkaline solution to counteract the (more) probable acidity of your media due to fertilization and the peat moss.

[Bramptony]

yeah spring water ive been using registered around 7.6 which is way too high so ive used water thats closer to 6.8 and i poured a whole water bottle through one of my plants whic is still in a red dixie beer cup, then i tested the run off and it seemed to be higher ph than the modified water i used, but not as high as when i test the spring water
... i think im on the right track?

[Help_Needed]

yah, my soil is like 75 % peat moss, is that a bad thing ?

Yeah, that's not good. Peat moss is both very acidic and very high in nitrogen. I'd look at changing the soil if I were you.

[Bramptony]

haha ok, ive been trying to fight it cuz i cant find any foxfarm products near where i live, but ill order some forest ocean mix off ebay

now for transplanting, so i try to get the plant totally out of the old soil or should i leave all the soil and mix it. i think it will be best to change soil when i change the pots ,when i re-pot to biggerpots
any tips on soil-swapping?