Norkali's 2nd Indoor Grow - *Cinderella99*

[norkali]

Welcome to Norkali's 2nd indoor growlog. My first indoor grow (http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/121325-came-closet.html) didn't go too bad at all IMO, I was happily surprised with my results.

Now I have learned from my initial mistakes and have taken the time to fix and upgrade my growspace:


6'' Cooltube!
SunMaster 600w Cool Deluxe MH conv. bulb
SunMaster 600w Super HPS Deluxe bulb
600w Digital Greenhouse ballast
4'' duct - replaced with 6''.
4 more 2'' intake holes, total of 6 now.
No more ghetto chains, Hi-Low reflector hangers.
Plastic tub for flushing/runoff/pH testing, baking racks to elevate pots.


Other implemented/planned improvements:


Quality genetics - Joey Weed's Cinderella 99
Fox Farms Nutes:
-Grow Big
-Tiger Bloom
-Big Bloom
Also, Liquid Karma & Liquinox Start Vitamin B-1
Purchased both soil and liquid pH test kits
Purchased pH Up/Down solution.
Prilled Dolomite Lime to combat acidic Fox Farms nutes.
LST & Topping during grow.




Soil will remain the same, Black Gold Seedling Mix to start, then Fox Farms Ocean Mix.

Temps are SO much better with the CoolTube, temps barely raise with the door closed.

I really want to play with ScrOG as well, but am still unsure of where/how to mount the screen/how big of screen spacing, etc. - Any advice?

Seeds were popped into the ground on Oct. 13 @ 12:01am PST. It has been three days now, no signs of anything yet, but that was expected. I'm giving them at least a week before I worry. I did not use any pre-planting germination techniques, just a dry seed into moist soil and patience.

[REEFERDREAMZ]

:thumbsup: looks good. I am on my first, already have learned more with the 2nd grow box and the 3rd will be even better.. your right with the ghetto shit..lol Like MINE..lol.... Looks Good, though.

Like your work- Love your plants =)

JOURNEY:jointsmile:

[norkali]

4/4 sprouted!

Pic 1 - One had trouble with a stubborn seed shell...required tweezers.

Pic 2 - Taken yesterday, (Oct. 17) Same time as Picture 1.

Pic 3 - Wide shot, lol.

Pic 4 - All 4. (Oct. 17)

Pic 5 - What a difference a day makes....(Oct. 18)

I already want to give them nutrients...patience though.

[norkali]

Good growth....are they stretching too much? should I lower the light?

[norkali]

Just added 1 tsp. of Fox Farms Grow Big and 1 tsp. of Big Bloom. pH adjusted up to around 6.5. :)

[YaYoKush]

Really nice setup man ill def be following your thread because i am ordering some c99 end of this week did it take long to get the seeds from HD? And ill be growing inside as well but as of now doing a beta run on some bag seed in the log YaYo's Benchmark.

[forcus master]

Damn Norkali, you're the man. Awesome first grow and I'll be watching this one closely.

[Shovelhandle]

It looks like a nice grow setup you have going! I'll be watching also.

Shovelhandle

[norkali]

Really nice setup man ill def be following your thread because i am ordering some c99 end of this week did it take long to get the seeds from HD? And ill be growing inside as well but as of now doing a beta run on some bag seed in the log YaYo's Benchmark.

Thanks. HD was fast, maybe 4-5 days with fast delivery option.


Damn Norkali, you're the man. Awesome first grow and I'll be watching this one closely.

Cool, Thanks.


It looks like a nice grow setup you have going! I'll be watching also.

Shovelhandle

Thank you as well. :thumbsup:

[thex420]

Im thinking of ordering some of that C99 from Joey I have been hearing so much about. What did the packaging look like ? Did you have it sent somewhere else besides where you are growing at ? I feel like I should send them somewhere else but don't want to have to tell anyone what they are...

[norkali]

Im thinking of ordering some of that C99 from Joey I have been hearing so much about. What did the packaging look like ? Did you have it sent somewhere else besides where you are growing at ? I feel like I should send them somewhere else but don't want to have to tell anyone what they are...

Packaging?? HD is based in Canada, so it just looks like any other international package/mail. I had it shipped directly. If you have to worry about what's coming in the mail because of the occupants of the house, then you probably shouldn't be growing there; realizing of course that I don't know you nor your living situation.

People worry too much about their snail mail being watched. Unless your ordering hundreds of seeds or using stolen credits cards, in my personal opinion at least, you shouldn't worry about it.

Think about it. If the USPS --> FBI/DEA were really interested in you and your odd horticultural purchases, they would just track you on the internet, subpoena a couple of things, warrant, call to your friendly local police dept., bing bang boom. You're done.

Local cops? ....put it this way, if you believe that you possess the nerve, knowledge, and skill to maintain a successful marijuana grow, you should be smart enough not to attract police attention on a general basis in the first place....getting some seeds in the mail should be one of your lesser worries.

[norkali]

Is it just me or do the leaves look kind of twisted/folded....like the "wind" is too strong. The fan is on the lowest setting as it is...already moved farther way too. A better fan is actually on the way; will be much better suited for my operation.

I think I will be transplanting into bigger pots soon, maybe in the next day or two...oh yeah, I added a 1/2'' of Fox Farms Ocean Forest mix to top the little pots off...the soil will be 100% Fox Farms when I transplant as well.

Probably less frequent updating as well, I'm beginning to think that two pics a day (on average) is excessive. Unless of course you guys like the OCD style documentation. Somebody is paying for the bandwidth. It will be awesome though to watch a high quality time-lapse when the ladies* are done.

*Ladies TBA.

[zebulon]

Wow.....your grow room is just awesome:thumbsup: !!!!! And those 4 '99s look awesome too:thumbsup:....i hope they will become really big ,whit huge sticky buds..:):) Keep sending those pics...:hippy:

[norkali]

Pic's 2 & 3 - See how the leaves are folded/bent? Too much "wind"?

Pic 5 - "special" leaf.

[cwesto]

Norkali, i am currently in close to the same stage as u, my seedlings have just popped their heads out of the dirt today.

What kind of light did u use for ur seedlings just after they sprouted? I dont wanna put the 400w MH on em yet do i?

How far away was ur light from the seedling?? Also i AM supposed to have 24 hr light at this stage correct?

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/138196-2nd-grow.html Heres my gro-log if u want to check it out. I also have a photo problem lol, i guess its not necessarily a bad thing tho right

[norkali]

Norkali, i am currently in close to the same stage as u, my seedlings have just popped their heads out of the dirt today.

What kind of light did u use for ur seedlings just after they sprouted? I dont wanna put the 400w MH on em yet do i?

How far away was ur light from the seedling?? Also i AM supposed to have 24 hr light at this stage correct?

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/138196-2nd-grow.html Heres my gro-log if u want to check it out. I also have a photo problem lol, i guess its not necessarily a bad thing tho right

I use 18/6, I never use 24/0. (Unless I had a mother plant)

I put the seedling right under a 600w MH conversion bulb immediately, at about 5.5 ft. away w/ a cool tube (and mylar.)

Now it's about 3.5-4 ft. away.

Good log, get your lights closer though! Swich to the MH!!

[cwesto]

u put the MH on em as soon as they came out of the dirt?? About 5' away huh? Ok ill out the MH on em then.. Hope they dont stress the lil guys out.

[norkali]

Just got done transplanting the babies.... 3 of 4 went well. One was questionable.

The plant with the "special leaf" (http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/grow-log/163056d1193544215-norkalis-2nd-indoor-grow-cinderella99-oct.-27-5.jpg) was the "questionable" transplant. As I was in the process of physically transplanting to the new pot, I (stupidly) took my hand off of the bottom of the rootsquare and the rootball just...fell through. The top section of the soil basically detached from the main rootball and it (the rootball) fell like 3 inches into the awaiting hole....I simply placed what was left in my hand and set it back on top gently and worked it all in.

Pic 1 - Day 12

Pic 2 - Day 13

Pic 3 - Today, Day 14 - before transplant.

Pic's 4&5 - Today, after transplant.

Will update tomorrow sometime to show results. Edit: Also, I was baked last update and stated I would use 24/0 for mothers. Nahhh...lol. Why would I do that. 18/6 all the way. :stoned: and cwesto....do it; they'll be alright, they need it.

[YaYoKush]

Wow those cindy's have spread out nice i love how your grow area is so clean and fresh, my little benchmark has helped so much so ive almost worked out all the bugs in my box so soon to order some of that cindy:) I wouldnt sweat over that little leaf i mean not every plant has perfect genetic structure. Seems super healthy to me.

[kdspecial]

They look nic have you grown Ciny 99 before? Somone recomended the strain to me as a great UP HIGH,, What do you think? As well does it get super tall likea Sativa?

kd

[cwesto]

Lovely Norkali, ur plants r looking absolutely wonderful. Ill be following ur gro. U got a nice log so far with nice plants, and also our grows like a week apart from each other so it will be good to compare and contrast.

I was also wondering how far do u have ur MH away from ur plants, and what ur day time and night time temps are and what humidity do u have???

Keep up the good work norkali :jointsmile: :thumbsup:

[norkali]

I wouldnt sweat over that little leaf i mean not every plant has perfect genetic structure. Seems super healthy to me.
Lol. Thanks. Just a bit funny.


They look nice have you grown Cindy 99 before?
Nope.


Somone recomended the strain to me as a great UP HIGH,, What do you think? As well does it get super tall likea Sativa?
I like "up" highs. That's mainly why I chose Cindy 99. That and the ease of the grow. I don't know about the stretching, I plan on doing a ScrOG anyway.


Lovely Norkali, ur plants r looking absolutely wonderful. Ill be following ur gro. U got a nice log so far with nice plants, and also our grows like a week apart from each other so it will be good to compare and contrast.
Thanks.


I was also wondering how far do u have ur MH away from ur plants, and what ur day time and night time temps are and what humidity do u have???
Keep up the good work norkali :jointsmile: :thumbsup:
Before the transplant, the MH bulb was approx. 3' 3'' away from the top of the plants. After I transplanted last night, the new pots raised them up closer to the lights and now they are exactly 2' 5'' away from the tops of the plants. I haven't seen any signs of stress throughout the day.

Morning: 69-73°
Afternoon & Evening: 73-78°
Night: 65-68°

Humidity: 35-55%

[norkali]

Transplanting went fine with all 4. :thumbsup:

They were topped for the first time tonight as well.

Next couple of days will be sloooow...

[BigWeed]

whats up norkali your grow area looks awesome nice and clean thats the way a grow room should look. I to have some c99 to grow but i am waiting for a while to pop the seeds. I will be sticking around for this one.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[cwesto]

Look'n good like always Norkali. Can we see some pics of the top'd plants?? Ive never topped B4 which is what i plan on doing to half my Big buds so id like to see were u cut at.

PS Ill be posting some new pics tonight from last 2 days, they should be up around 10PM EST. U should come check em out, and let me kno what u think about em.

[cwesto]

Oh, also Norkali ive been moving my lights down the last couple of days. today i moved em from about 3 1/2' down to about 2' and they havent showed any stress yet. :thumbsup:

[norkali]

All are doing well now, except for a few small yellow spots on a few of the leaves....

[norkali]

And I accidentally discovered how to do the "FIM" technique! hahaha! Nice. I didn't know what I was even doing until the morning after I realized that I hadn't totally topped the plants, so I hopped onto the lovely Cannabis Cultivation FAQ (http://growfaq.net/index.php?) and saw the FIM technique article. BINGO!

Should be interesting.

[BigWeed]

I hope mine look like yours when I pop mine. Im going to do some breeding and I want to breed it to my granddaddy purple. Im going take a male c99 and breed it to my GDP clone. I think thast all Im going to do next year is breeding. Those plants look nice man keep up the good work Ill check back in a couple days.

[zebulon]

Hey Norkali....anything new??? how are the girls??

[the image reaper]

your seedlings are looking OK, but I want to point out a couple things for newbie growers ... you should not have fertilized so early ... 2 weeks, NO nutes is best, (you got away with it this time, but C99 tolerates just about anything, other strains won't) ... also, I personally would never dream of topping a plant that young and small ... I suggest you don't top before the 5th set of branching, no sense in stressing a seedling that small ... Cinderella99 isn't a particuarly tall plant, anyway ... the leaf deformity that you pointed out means nothing usually, no worries ... possibly a microscopic scratch or abrasion from emerging from the shell, and it becomes more apparent as it grows larger ... otherwise, a very nice grow, and I predict you'll love Joey's C99 ... improves greatly after a slow cure ... :thumbsup:

[norkali]

Hey Norkali....anything new??? how are the girls??

They are looking good! I have started foliar feeding w/ growth excel and wow, look at the pictures.


also, I personally would never dream of topping a plant that young and small ... I suggest you don't top before the 5th set of branching

I've also heard the 4th set, seeing as how it's resilient, I topped. I don't regret topping at all.


otherwise, a very nice grow, and I predict you'll love Joey's C99 ...

Thanks.

[cwesto]

Lookin good in my opinion. Im no expert, but they look like they r loving life right now.
I dont think there is a more gorgeous shade of green than a young MJ. They r just so vibrant looking, u kno..

[norkali]

Tonight (Day 31 of Veg.) was the first night of LST. I watered last night; slowly pulled them over this evening.

It exposed a lot of little potential bud sites :thumbsup:

BTW: Last night the feeding was:

3 tsp Grow Big
1 tsp Growth Excel
2 tsp Liquid Karma


I am SO glad I am on the pH levels now....the feeding before pH Up was like 4.0-4.3. Adjusted with 30(!) drops or so of pH up.

[zebulon]

Looking awesome:thumbsup:...
btw. is this c99 a indica dominant plant ??

[YaYoKush]

Zeb Cindy is a sativa but low smell and an easier sativa to grow and from what ive herd does not get super tall. Looking good Norkali my grow has stopped for personal issues but soon enough ill be back on it again starting with these cindyxnl seeds i got from HD!

[norkali]

I've never personally LST'd before, and want to know how these suckers look.

The haven't shown sex, yet. I hope they do soon so I can have some more room.

Any advice? Noticeable problems? Opinions? :D

Thanks guys.

[cwesto]

Norkali how often r u watering???

How long do u expect tell u start 12/12????

Also ur gro is looking WONERFUL man, keep it up, i expect very nice kolas :detective1: I can only hope mine look that vigerous at a month. :hippy:

[iriebowl]

lst is looking good keep it up. just wait til you got tons of side branches to lst. if you need to free up some foliage you can trim the leaf fingers in half or what i started doing is just taking 1-3 of the smaller fingers off so the leaves are 3-4 fingered.

[norkali]

Thanks Cwesto and Iriebowl. :thumbsup:

I water every 3-5 days, depending on conditions. I also have started to foliar feed with Growth excel and Wet Betty Organic as well. The regimen is 2 nights feeding, 1 night just h2o (foliarlly applied), then 1 night w/o any foliar app. The cycle restarts the next night. (Tonight, 11/18 (Day 33) the little babies will get the 100% h20 application.)

The Growth Excel and Wet Betty have DEFINITELY made a difference...If I get around to it I will look back to see when I first started using the Growth Excel/Wet Betty and compare the couple days of before and after pics.

And speaking of 12/12...

Pre-flowers have just started to show!! This morning I woke up to check on my LST'ing job and whadaya know? Two of the girls(!) have started to show pre-flowers. Although super tiny still. I am almost sure that each of the two little nubs had even tinier mini-pistils starting to emerge! As soon as I can sex these things I can determine when I will be switching over to 12/12; If all are female (hah!) then I'll start 12/12 now and hope to god that they all fit. Most likely, 1 or 2 will be male, I'll get those outta there, make some more room, continue to train the remaining ladies a little bit, and then throw them into flower.

I'll keep ya updated!!

P.S. Where are Weedhound and Dizzy1? They were regulars on my last log....where is everybody?....No love for Norkali? BTW, lol, not you Cwesto. Thanks for the positive feedback man. :jointsmile:

[cwesto]

Dude, Norkali u r the main man, ur gro is wonderful. Where do u get that foiliar feeding stuff u been using i have never done foiliar befor do u recomend those products u r using???

[braddhaEEE]

Real nice grow u got der Norkali:smokin:. How many gallon pots r u usin at ths time?

[norkali]

Thanks Brah, I'm in 5 gallon pots as of right now.

Cwesto, I highly recommend Growth Excel and Wet Betty (Organic) by Advanced Nutrients. They worked wonders.

[hydrocannabis]

UR LST job looks great. really great.

I like LSTing plants so much that I'd like to write a book about it. just because of how well it works.
any looks great so keep up the good work.

[cwesto]

Do u use both those products through the whole grow or just veg??

Are both the wet betty an growth excel by Advanced Nutrients?

Also will those be alright with my full FoxFarm package?

[norkali]

Whew! Big update!

All 4 babies are female!! They started to show preflowers on day 34, and the preflowers didn't fully "show" until today, day 37. All have little white pistils poking out.

12/12 starts tonight. I wasn't anticipating all 4 being female, so I am starting flowering now and will continue to train for the next week or two.

Pic 1 - Day 32
Pic 2 - Day 33
Pic 3 - Day 35
Pic 4 - Day 36
Pic 5 - Day 37

[zebulon]

Wow Norkali...your plants are growing really fast, and they look nice bushy...it's great to hear that all 4 are female...:thumbsup:

[jon.hatcher]

Good work! They look beautiful.

[adahars37]

wow, we have the EXACT SAME GROW going on right now. i'm talking same strain, nutes, lighting, everything ! i've been taking a pic everyday and will post it all in another 4 weeks when i harvest. looks good, oh yeah C99 LOVES to be topped. it's a great strain, i highly suggest SCROG with C99

[norkali]

wow, we have the EXACT SAME GROW going on right now. i'm talking same strain, nutes, lighting, everything ! i've been taking a pic everyday and will post it all in another 4 weeks when i harvest. looks good, oh yeah C99 LOVES to be topped. it's a great strain, i highly suggest SCROG with C99

Lol. Crazy.

You Cooltubin'? Growth Excel? A picture every day too?!?

Too good to be true. I can't wait to compare.

[Weedhound]

4 females!! See!! If you build it they will come!! Great setup!!! :thumbsup:

Of COURSE the babes are showing up in droves. :D

[norkali]

Weedhound! :D
_____________________________

Ok. So I decided not to go to 12/12 directly, minutes before the lights were to go off (12/12) the other night....

Instead, they will be eased into it. The dark period gets 1 hour longer each night. So, when I wake up in the morning and the lights have gone on, I go add another "off" hour onto the timer for the next night.

Tonight (day 39, eve of day 40) they will have 9 hours of darkness. On this schedule, the first "true" day of 12/12 will be day 43. I plan of changing out the MH conv. to the HPS tomorrow night. This works well for a couple of reasons. One, I can clean my cooltube at the same time that I switch bulbs. Two, I watered with 100% h2o two days ago, and I would like to feed with a "flowering solution" of nutes just before/at 12/12. Third, I needed to trim some fan leaves! I did some good pruning to help airflow and eliminate leaves that weren't getting any light. (Taking more energy, than making with photosynthesis.) Also, the stress from pruning should be minimized with the gradual time change.

[evertking]

Good looking plants norkali!
Look forward to seeing the buds!
Good Luck!

[DOT52]

hey nice plants, i have a question on the cooltube. how close could you get that to your plants? and what amouf of cfm's do you need to appropriatly ventalate it

[cwesto]

Looking good like always, nice Norkali.

[doco]

You are going to love this weed so much...the aroma and taste when it is cured is my all around favorite, bar none.

Happy growing!

[adahars37]

yeah this will be cool to see how our respective grows turn out. i'll put up some pics when i have some free time later this week and let you know so you can check er out. i guess we differ that i jump head first into 12/12.
DOT52 if cooled properly it can sit an inch or two from the top of your canopy. even touching the tube won't be bad.

[norkali]

A bit of pruning and low humidity halted growth for a couple of days, things are looking a bit better now. I hope they didn't stress out too bad.

I'm just waiting for the buds to start now!

Last nights feeding was:


5 mL Grow Big
7.5 mL Tiger Bloom
10 mL Liquid Karma
30 mL Big Bloom
*to 1 gal. of distilled water

[the image reaper]

nice plants and photos :thumbsup: ... I'm sitting here stoned, but I can't keep from thinking what an attractive shrub Cinderella 99 is at that age ... beautiful ... look exactly like my babies ... and, that leopard-skin floor covering is just way cool ! ... :jointsmile:

[norkali]

nice plants and photos :thumbsup: ... I'm sitting here stoned, but I can't keep from thinking what an attractive shrub Cinderella 99 is at that age ... beautiful ... look exactly like my babies ... and, that leopard-skin floor covering is just way cool ! ... :jointsmile:

:D Thanks man.

Last nights feeding:

5 mL Grow Big
10 mL Tiger Bloom
10 mL Liquid Karma
60 mL Big Bloom


Now I'm just waiting for the buds......the white pistils have started to shoot out everywhere! :jointsmile:

[Farmer Rich]

Hey Norkali,

I'm switching my mood back to inspired!! Looks great! :thumbsup:

Farmer Rich

[mowiewowie]

Hey norkali any updates? I've been following your log and it's great to see how your doing everything right :D Your plants look great from the lst also. How's the smell on those girls? Did you notice anything when the bud pistils starting shooting out everywhere?

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Norcali,

Extreamly good work!! Can't wait to se them in full bloom!!

[the image reaper]

excellent growing, and a great grow-log too :thumbsup: you should be seeing some amber trichs around Day 50 ... keep an eye out :jointsmile:

[norkali]

:)


...I've been following your log and it's great to see how your doing everything right :D Your plants look great from the lst also. How's the smell on those girls? Did you notice anything when the bud pistils starting shooting out everywhere?

Thanks mowie! The smell has just started actually; very faint. In all honesty though, I can't smell all that well as it is. My brother has confirmed though, "They are starting to smell like weed!" - lol. I plan on adding a tbsp. of molasses into the mix soon.


Norkali,

Extreamly good work!! Can't wait to se them in full bloom!!

Blooming now. :thumbsup:


excellent growing, and a great grow-log too :thumbsup: you should be seeing some amber trichs around Day 50 ... keep an eye out :jointsmile:

:D Thanks alot man. I can't wait. I couldn't have done it without the help and information that comes the forum. :thumbsup:

__________________

Updates: Buds have started to form!

I've been agonizing lately about my pruning. This was my first time LST'ing and pruning a significant amount of undergrowth. I waited too long to start actually (properly) pruning, starting 1 week into flower, and is lasted about a week. (to minimize stress, pruned every other day.) I am convinced that this reduced my overall yield, but I am not nearly experienced enough with growing, let alone this particular strain, to determine my approx. loss in yield. Maybe I am just being too critical though....

Other C99 grow logs show me that my ladies look to be about a day or two "behind" compared to the other C99 forming buds, (on the corresponding days) so I am just wondering will this bit of stress this early in flower have a huge or small impact on yield? Especially considering C99 has such a fast flowering period. ...?

[zebulon]

Wow Norkali, the plants look awesome...:thumbsup:
Don't worry,i think you will have a big yield...
But maybe you should pick a few bigger fan leafs, so the lower buds
get a lil' more light(but this is just my opinion)....

Keep up the good work buddy :thumbsup:, and keep us posted....good luck...

[smokenss]

fuck yea u should yield very well here gr8 job so far:smokin:

[norkali]

I got an actual pH meter finally! :clap:

Nutrient mix was adjusted to 6.5 going in and the runoff ended up at 5.9 :mad:

I need to flush. The next feeding is already set for 100% h2o. The ladies typically share 2 gallons of water between the 4 of them, a half gallon each. Now, I just need to know how much to water it, and what is the best water to flush with.

I have both distilled and R/O water. I was thinking about flushing with 2 gallons of water (1 gal. distilled, 1 gal. R/O) to each pot. (pots are 5 gal.) Should I add all of the 2 gal. at once? Over an hour? A couple hours? I have a feeling that flooding a plant like that would do more harm than good. BUT, I don't know shit about this, I have never flushed before.

What about the pH of the water? where should I aim for going in? 7.1, to even the 5.9 out to 6.5? Or pH starting @ 6.5? Also, I've heard that R/O can be harmful to soil by leaching out the nutrients due to it's "0 qualities" Or was that hydro?

Either way....I need some help. :(

Some pic's to enjoy:

[norkali]

Do you like my thread? Then lets boost my rating people! I've been all tucked away, hidden back here in the depths of the Grow Log now; let's put this one on the forum front page! Give me a chance to be seen! Gimme a Thumbs Up!

...and yes, that was a shameless self-thread-promotion plug. Ahaha!

[norkali]

Three words - Grape Tootsie Pops.

That's what these ladies smell like. Ridiculously sticky resin all over the plants. Mmmmmmm.

[SmokeStack2]

Great job Norkali those are some real nice Buds!:rasta: They should be ready real soon?

[norkali]

They should be ready real soon?

They've got another 20 days to fatten up, give or take!

[BobBong]

Looking killer Norkali
Here's some Cindy 99 I just got for Christmas.
It's a beautiful smoke so ENJOY! I know you probably will.

Cheers,
Bob.

[zebulon]

Awesome Nor....really awesome..you are a lucky man..:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Really good looking grow, Norkali!

Shvl

[the image reaper]

props, Norcali, excellent grow log for an excellent crop :thumbsup:

[yiGity]

@_@

[norkali]

IV:XX :thumbsup:

[norkali]

Here we go...

[ZiG]

beautiful pics

thanks

[smokenss]

fuck things r lookn bloody awesome in there mate top shit:thumbsup:



:smokin:

[duckgirl420]

WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW:jawdropper: your budz look amazing dude, what r u feeding trhose beasts?..... seriously what the fuk do u feed them?? and r u doing any foiliar feeding?

[norkali]

lol, thanks everybody.

Feeding nutrients:


Fox Farms - Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, & Big Bloom
Liquid Karma
occasional A.N. Growth Excel
tablespoon of blackstrap molasses for final feeding


I did foliar feed in veg. Not in flower. (Using Advanced Nutrients Growth Excel w/ Wet Betty)

[cwesto]

Norkali, when u say u used a tablespoon of blackstrap molasses for final feeding what do u mean by final feeding??

[norkali]

I should have clarified that, by "final feeding" I mean the final time that I give it anything other than water.

I will be 'flushing' with ph'd tap water until harvest.

[cwesto]

So u mean that u will only be feedinf w/ molasses once, at the end of the whole grow??

[norkali]

Unfortunately yes, I would have wanted to feed with it probably two or three times, but I could not find any unsulphered, blackstrap molasses for over two weeks....I was a bit busy to be hunting down molasses during the holidays.

But! I did get some good ol' Plantation brand unsulphered blackstrap molasses in at the last second.

:jointsmile: Just water from here on out.

[cwesto]

So would u have fed w/ the molasses for the whole bloom period or just like the last month?? cause i heard that it is 100% safe to use for the whole bloom??

[norkali]

For my first time using the stuff, I kind of like using it once and seeing the results. Next time around, I'll be able to see what happens w/ molasses at earlier introduction and longer duration.

I would have used it for about the last 3-4 weeks though, yes.

I don't see any reason why you could not use molasses from the beginning of bloom though, just as long as it is used carefully. (Possible nute lock-out from too much iron? Attract bugs? Sticky soil?) That's the problem, I just don't know. I don't have experience using the stuff. We'll see though, right? :bonghit:

The stuff seems wonderful so far though. My buds smell great. Everything seems happy.

[cwesto]

Yea i was thinking of throwing some into the mix pretty soon.. where did u find urs at?? im guessing meijer doesnt carry it..

[norkali]

Grocery store. I tried 4, no luck, found it at the 5th. Try smaller sized chains, that's what happened in my case; none of the 3 'major' supermarket chains carried it.

[cwesto]

cool im gonna have to go on a search tomorow

[Shovelhandle]

LOL, gotta be you aren't used to shopping in the "cooking and baking" section of your grocery. I swear, they all carry "unsulphered molasses". It's a main cooking ingredient. Glad you found it. I first used molasses at 1/2 tablespoon to the gallon and had no troubles. This grow I upped to 2 tablespoons to the gallon. No sticky dirt, no bugs, no nute problems. I used the molasses only in flower and once every three waterings.

That is one nice, big crop you have coming there, Norki How long now, three more weeks? WOW!

Shov

[norkali]

Thanks Shov, I think I have actually changed my mind now. I will be adding another round of molasses into the mix.

Today is day 40 of flowering. I'm guessing that 2 of the ladies will be ready right around day 50, and the 2 other ladies will be ready maybe 2-3 days after that. Weird huh? The 2 ladies that are maturing a little faster are the ones 'in front' of the closet, (the 4 pots are staggered 2 front, 2 back) the 2 'in back' are a tad slower, I honestly think it was due to the difficulty to water correctly in such a tight space; or maybe lack of ventilation? :wtf: Anyway, a little under 2 weeks left. :thumbsup:

[norkali]

Shov, my mom was excited to see you were from Vermont, lol!

She says we have much family in the Barrie area. She has fond memories of going to Joe's Pond and traveling the back dirt roads...

[zebulon]

Nice pics. Norkali...:thumbsup: but could you please take a few pics. whit that HPS turned off, just whit flash or normal light ,it would be real good to see the colors of the plants....thanks...:jointsmile:

[norkali]

This was my first view of the buds under "normal" light too....

Wow.

[cwesto]

Yea those look really good under the normal light....

So ur Mom knows that u grow weed and all ???? How old r u Norkali if u dont mind my askin..

[norkali]

The mods know my age, but I really don't feel totally comfortable revealing it to all. I'm not exactly 'old' though. Let's put it that way. I've come a long way in a short time I guess.

My parents are old hippies. :hippy: lol. They dig the fact that I am legal and have a card. I showed mom the log(s) today when I was over at her house, she hasn't had a chance to see the closet in person yet. She was speechless. lmao.

[cwesto]

Oh totally understandable.. i almost didnt ask, i thought it may have been asking to much. The only reason i asked tho was b/c my parent would kill me, shit they dont even like me smoking the stuff, even tho they were once hippies too.... i think being stuck in an office building and forced to wear suits their whole life has made them a little bitter u kno lol

I dont know where u started from, but i will agree u have mad skill and u have produced some absolutely stunning plant my friend. I would love to take a lesson or two from u, I think u have a very green thumb.. I was going to put the greenthumb smiley, but i think they took it off.

I wish the Admin ould put that one back up, that was my favorite of the smileys... oh well

Keep up the good work my brother/sister in cannabis.

[Shovelhandle]

Norki,
Vermont is cool. The state senate is talking about reducing the punishment for holding pot or decriminalization. I hope they do something major, not just a first offense small quantity civil offense and everything else as bad as it is now (felonies).

We had a 61 yo lady judge busted for 25 plants outdoors and she was given "court diversion", a civil offense (misdemeanor) with no record. I'd like to see that for anybody.

Shov

[zebulon]

:greenthumb:

[dgsgandalf]

How tall are the plants now? Does topping them make them grow shorter or just increase the budding sites?

Great lookin grow man! Hopefully i'll be able to get back into it soon!

Peace!

[GrowMe]

WOW

[norkali]

I dont know where u started from, but i will agree u have mad skill and u have produced some absolutely stunning plant my friend. I would love to take a lesson or two from u, I think u have a very green thumb..

Ahhh. :o

Come to find out, through talking to the parents, that I'm actually a third-generation grower. It's in my genes. My grandmother (dad's side) could never get it right, bless her, she never had the heart to kill a plant and remove the males from her crops. She continually grew 'schwag' right up until she passed away, stubborn old Cherokee! She was absolutely thrilled to get her recommendation, and got to enjoy it for about a year before she passed. When the family went to clean out her house, we found some plants outback, and I even found a small bag of hash under her recliner! Yeah Nana! :hippy:

Dad brought it a bit further. He started out in his closet too; had his dad find them, got em' pulled, and moved on. A couple years down the road, he eventually ended up with a 'Best-in-Show' award form an underground and renowned (and recently written upon in High Times a few months back...) grow society. No shit. He grew that crop out of a small greenhouse in the backyard. Mom and dad waited until I was asleep, then went out and continued to trim a quarter-pound+ of bud in an RV they had parked in the side yard. When I was 7 or 8 I didn't know what that funny skunk-smell was coming out from under the house, HAH! Now I know. Unfortunately, dad never got to enjoy the benefits of Prop 215 in CA. He quit growing before the 'medical marijuana' movement really even started, out of sheer paranoia and concern for his own family.

Shit, I didn't start smoking until I was 14, and when the parents found out, I was busted too. Just like all of us. Dad didn't approve of me growing in the beginning either; probably due to old-school-paranoia. With a legitimate, legal medicinal recommendation though, and after a bit of explaining and time for it to settle, he eventually gave me the nod. Unfortunately, neither of my parents can smoke, let alone grow, due to their careers. Dad has had a chance to see my closet, and while he tries not to show it, but I can tell he's proud. :jointsmile:


I wish the Admin could put that one back up, that was my favorite of the smileys... oh well

:greenthumb: It's there. Under 'Cannabis Smilies.'



Keep up the good work my brother in cannabis. :thumbsup:

[norkali]

How tall are the plants now? Does topping them make them grow shorter or just increase the budding sites?

Great lookin grow man! Hopefully i'll be able to get back into it soon!

Peace!

Thanks, that 1 dominant bud tops off at right about 2 feet above the soil. Most of the colas sit about 1.5 feet above. Topping does both of those at once.

Oh, and thank-you cwesto!

[Call Me Steam]

The normal light picture... oh my good. I'm drooling! Very very nice! :thumbsup:

[yungjay]

is that 4 different plants under the normal light picture?

[norkali]

Yes, are here are some better pics taken tonight. :thumbsup:

[Gamma]

w o w

[thex420]

so gorgeous.....

[mactre]

YUMMY!!! just looking at those 2 pics makes me want to hit a bowl. :rastasmoke:

[SmokeStack2]

Wow that's a lot of Bud, and more to grow wow.

[yiGity]

i wonder how DANK that smells kali

[Magneto]

I am a lurker, and have yet to post one of my grows. I am very happy to see this C99 grow as I have 2 clones currently waiting their turn for flowering space. After watching yours get so damned perdy, I might just have to veg them for a bit longer and get many more clones off them! Keep up the great work!

Plan on growing Cindy again?

[BIGFattie]

lookin real nice:smokin:

[norkali]

Thanks Gamma, Mac, SS, BigFattie, & 420.

yiGity, it smells like candy - crazy, sweet, dank candy.

Welcome Magneto! I would definitely recommend that! I have some more beans and will be hopefully establishing a mother, so yes. This lady is amazing.

[norkali]

Finally got some good quality bud shots. Ugh, I hate hairs that get stuck on buds....another magnifying glass & tweezer session tomorrow....

I can't believe how fast things are moving in there, a week left feels so close, but so far at the same time.....

[Racerx]

Finally got some good quality bud shots. Ugh, I hate hairs that get stuck on buds....another magnifying glass & tweezer session tomorrow....

I can't believe how fast things are moving in there, a week left feels so close, but so far at the same time.....

they look very uniform and solid. looks great. C99 is one of my all time favorites to grow. It can be so fruity and tropical, sweet as sugar.

[smokenss]

man ur a fuckn champ those buds r some sweet lookn buds:thumbsup:




:smokin:ss

[tokr2153]

Holy Sh*t man those are some nice girls. They look good enough to eat right off the stem damn man nice grow. What kind of a weight go you think that your going to get??? :thumbsup::jointsmile::thumbsup:

[fearmygun1]

all these pic's look like they belong in hightimes magazine....seriously tho,that sh1t looks bomb.

what area of norcal u in? if u dont mind me asking

[beginerbuddah]

wow thats incredable great job man :thumbsup:

[norkali]

:wtf:

Next grow, I will switch to 12/12 directly.

Flowering must have started somewhere in between switching from 18/6 to 12/12. I noticed amber trich's 3-4 days ago, the 1 lady on the right was prime on Jan. 10, the other three were let go for two more days, and were cut on Jan. 12. I wish I could figure out how to take a picture through my 60X-100X mag......the color ratios (clear/cloudy/amber) are dead on, and they just look amazing.

Stay tuned....I have a surprise in store for the end of this grow. ;)

[yiGity]

lookin damn good what are you lookin at for your yield ?

[norkali]

I'm hoping to double my first yield. (3 oz.)

I'm shooting for 6 oz., and I think I may just have it. :jointsmile: 1/2 pound is going to be my overall goal for this closet.

[iDude]

That's awesome looking shit. Really give me inspiration to get that 600 watt lamp! I really can't wait to try some clones!

[cwesto]

All i can say is wah-wah-wee-wah:thumbsup: and that the force is strong with u

That boquet of pot looks awsome, u fukin rock Norkali

Ps - ur like the Obi-Won Kenobi of growing dude.... guess that makes me the paddawon learner, in the words of the great Yoda

PS #2 - Norkali could u by any chance disclose ur nutrient recipe??? I kno u rock the FoxFarm 3-part liquids like I, but i was wondering if there was anything else u used, especially during the flowering phase, since i am having probs in that area.... Next grow im only gonna use a pinch of the granual FoxFarm nutes, since they are so strong i think they burnt my plants early and they could never recover..

Is there any safer nutes u know of that are not so high in P??

[KL4D4]

Looks very nice, I wish I had snagged some cindy before the stock shortage! Lets us know the smoke report maybe some nice up macro shots (:

[cwesto]

Hey Norkali howd u store the rest of ur genetics?? Im guessin u bout 10 seeds..

[norkali]

That's awesome looking shit. Really give me inspiration to get that 600 watt lamp! I really can't wait to try some clones!

Thanks dude, I'd definitely go for the 600.


Norkali could u by any chance disclose ur nutrient recipe??? I kno u rock the FoxFarm 3-part liquids like I, but i was wondering if there was anything else u used, especially during the flowering phase, since i am having probs in that area.... Next grow im only gonna use a pinch of the granual FoxFarm nutes, since they are so strong i think they burnt my plants early and they could never recover..?

Granular nutes? :wtf:

Not for me. I stick with the liquids. I used the 3 part FF (liquid), Botnicare's Liquid Karma, Advanced Nutrients Growth Excel, and the molasses. Other than the Wet Betty, (foliar feeding w/ Growth Excel) that's about it. I modeled my feeding formulas very closely to Justaseed's Lovely Ladies (http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/52326-lovely-ladies.html) log.


Hey Norkali howd u store the rest of ur genetics?? Im guessin u bout 10 seeds..

Yup, 10. I kept them in their original packaging, they're locked up in a cool, dry, and dark place.


Looks very nice, I wish I had snagged some cindy before the stock shortage! Lets us know the smoke report maybe some nice up macro shots (:

I had to have gotten one of the last packs too.....by the time I checked back with HD, they were already sold out. Mid-2008......

[Emulatedvo1d]

nice:thumbsup:

[fUNKYcDOG]

damn great grow.... enjoy the cindy 99..... i love this strain......

:jointsmile:

[norkali]

:jointsmile: Thanks cDog, vo1d.

Now that I've manicured a little bit, I don't think that I'll hit 6 oz.; more like 4 1/2...we'll see though.

[thNk.m0rbid]

that bud looks so fuckin good, wtf lol.... smoke up:thumbsup:

[greenhead]

wow dude that is very nice lookin buds congrats man on a fine grow :thumbsup:

[Traigon]

Toying with this idea. If I creep around here awhile, I'm sure I'll figure it out

lolz

[gainesvillegreen]

Dude, I love that you taped your plants up to dry, that's awesome.

[mfqr]

Very nice weed you grew there... and it's only your second grow? Nice.

[norkali]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crlvqlcgCwA

[mfqr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crlvqlcgCwA

YO! Very nice, and I love that song selection there. Gang Starr 4 life ;)

[cwesto]

AHHHH, thats fukin awsome man, i love it..... i simply love it

Kind of reminds me of those timelapse grow video

Also, how did u get those things to mature in 43 days???

[norkali]

Thanks guys. :thumbsup:

[fearmygun1]

i hate u.
lol

[Darth Vapor]

norkali's growing ability = "The force is strong in this one."

Nice job... I'd love to make some brownies out of that shit. You'd be in another universe, for about a day and a half. :thumbsup:

[cwesto]

norkali's growing ability = "The force is strong in this one."

Nice job... I'd love to make some brownies out of that shit. You'd be in another universe, for about a day and a half. :thumbsup:

Those would most deffinately make some bad-ace brownies... I might have to pick up an 1/8th of c99 and do some baking now that it has been mentioned. That would be a high for the record books if made properly.:jointsmile: I prefer making a "canna-oil" to anyother method.:thumbsup:

[norkali]

I'm hoping to double my first yield. (3 oz.)

I'm shooting for 6 oz., and I think I may just have it. 1/2 pound is going to be my overall goal for this closet.

193.4 grams dry = 6.9 oz.!

That is not counting trim used for butter. That number does however, take into account 2 grams of pre-maturely picked bud and 2.9 grams of small buds that were thrown into trim for the bubblebags. Regardless, there was 188.5 grams of dry, tangible, good bud at time of weighing. :thumbsup: :jointsmile:

6.9 oz.
1 Lb. Canna-Butter
10 grams Bubblehash

[fenderstrat]

all from one 600? holy smokes. you must be feelin' accomplished:stoned:thanks for sharing!

:rastasmoke::thumbsup:

[zebulon]

Wow Norkali....193 dry grams in 3 months...really nice work, i can't wait to see your next project...:thumbsup:

[Backpacker420]

I just went through all 6 pages and all I can say is WOW!!!

[tha del sound]

yeah im with backpacker.

[OahuLocal]

Nice work man. Any ideas on a new project?

[norkali]

Nice work man. Any ideas on a new project?

C99: Revisited. ;)

[Dankeybuds420]

looks good heres my babyshttp://www.yourdailyawesome.com/.../17americaslide5.jpg

[Backpacker420]

Make sure to let us all know when you start your next grow!!

[norkali]

5 days old. ;)

[Backpacker420]

Are these new seedlings?

[norkali]

Yes. :thumbsup:

[Backpacker420]

Awesome! I loved your first two grows; can't wait to watch this one!

[hempplaya]

Damn I just looked through that and I can't believe my eyes, that's fucking awesome. Over spring break I'm going to build a cabinet and start a grow of some cali. o i got a while back. Your grow has definitely inspired me even more now :D


Enjoy :hippy:

[smok3y]

Dude thats some real funky lookin shiznit :D

[yiGity]

sick video nice grow and harvest

[dankleader420]

How do I start my own thread thing? I dont have alot of money so I am trying to go with the cheapest setup that will still be successful. i just started 2 plants, they are about 3 days in and have sprouted but i dont know if i have enough light. I have a 75 watt fluorescent tube that im using but im not sure this is enough. any suggestions on what to use that isnt very expensive that will still be good? i was thinking about buying two CFLs (one for each plant) would that be enough light or would i still need more?

[Dingo]

very nice. Going to reap a nice pile of smoke at the end of this grow i'm sure of. Plants look healthy as fuck aswell :thumbsup:

[cosmas]

They look nic have you grown Ciny 99 before? Somone recomended the strain to me as a great UP HIGH,, What do you think? As well does it get super tall likea Sativa?

kd

I like c99 a lot. Paranoia and appetite stimulant effects are low for me. I find it relaxes me and focuses my thoughts.

While c99 is sativa dominant, I did not find it very stretchy. I grew it along with some indica dominant blueberry and the c99 plants were only marginally taller than the blueberry at harvest.

[OahuLocal]

Da babies look cherry.

[805dnbhead]

very nice! i am a first time grower and my babies are 2 weeks old under a very smilar setup

19 inch cool tube
600 watt lumatek digital ballast
" " sunmaster cool deluxe and a eye hortilux super hps for flowering
6 inch can fan 440 cfm

I'm not trying to take over your post just nice to see someone with such a similar setup. hoping to get some advice on here.

[fUNKYcDOG]

:jointsmile: Thanks cDog, vo1d.

Now that I've manicured a little bit, I don't think that I'll hit 6 oz.; more like 4 1/2...we'll see though.



YUMMY

[Xyz505]

nice growing keep it up makes me happy i suck at growing its to complicated :rastasmoke:

[norkali]

nice growing keep it up makes me happy i suck at growing its to complicated :rastasmoke:

Lol, first time I ever tried:


Miracle-Gro soil
Terra-cotta pots
Chlorinated tap water
Would try to mimic light cycles by putting on the windowsill each day.....no basic knowledge!
Miracle-Gro ferts. from the garage (for the lawn...)
Died after about a week.


Just read a book! You'll get it. Just take everything one step at a time.
:thumbsup:

[OahuLocal]

What book would you suggest?

[norkali]

Where I learned..... (http://redeyepress.com/htm/book4.htm) - Get the spiral-bound; I will be replacing an original (missing pages/taped back together) soon.

[Xyz505]

thnx for the advice but man my parents are gay as fuck they smoke cigs and i tell them weed is better but they never like me smoking it if they found any of my shit they just take it and throw it away :( but ur lucky guy :rasta:

[Paht_Hed]

Greg Greens cannabis grow bible and Jorge Cervantes grow book are two excellent suggestions for reading material. Not much of a reader? Try Jorge Cervantes Ultimate Grow DVD. Just youtube it and you can surely find it in a series. Also try youtubing I Grow Chronic, another great series to learn by.

[OahuLocal]

Thanks you guys ill try to look up these books or dvds

[Xyz505]

any new pictures :stoned:

[norkali]

Using Subculture this time.....also added some perlite to the mix. 4th buddy is lookin' a little funky, alright though. I am starting foliar feeding w/ Wet Betty and Growth Excel now....

Prepare for takeoff.

[cwesto]

Norkali I know that u grow under similar conditions as me, nutes , medium, light and all. So that being said, does ur soil ever smell funny after u water ur plants??? this is probably norm, but i just cant get over how weird my dirt smells. Right now all i have used is bigbloom, superthrive from tiem to time, and liquid karma for the first time this morn.

So Norkali does ur dirt smell funky to u??

Ps ur new batch is lookn pretty good so far:thumbsup:

PS #2 When r u gonna send me those c99 clones???:D

[norkali]

Lol, oh yeah. Soil takes on some interesting smells throughout the grow process, as I have found out.

As long as you don't smell mold/mildew you should be good. Mold/Mildew smell = root rot.

[norkali]

Remember that Granddaddy Purple seed I had in my Northern California Collection thread?

It was in with my C99 seeds and now it might be one of the 4 babies.......we'll see.

[norkali]

So I went to the club today....brought home a new baby.

Say hello to my lil' OG Kush clone. :D

[HackerClown]

Nice, very nice Norkali.. Shit looks pretty damn good man. I am an expert with shrooms but not a expert with herbal. Do you think you can give a "how to" installation process on the ducting and fans etc. The whole closet set up. Seems like you know what you are doing now and i want to start up a similar closet set up but i am not sure how to actually go about doing what you did. I have never tried something like that before and i was hoping on an education on an install process bro~~!!!! THANKS~~~

[dgsgandalf]

Hey Norcali, with that Kush clone you probably should have cut off that big fan leaf that's pulling the plant down. There would still have been plenty of stem to grow roots on and plenty of leaves to give her a start. With that big fan on there, the plant will grow bent over and will probably lose too much water through the large surface area.

I also have a question. When you go to buy clones, do they just snip one off and hand it to you or do they have them rooted already and you get the whole pot with the dirt and everything?

Good luck man! Kush is one of my favs! Got some Master Kush seeds on the way.

Peace!

p.s. thank god for wake-and-bake. otherwise 8am would be waaaay too early to get out of bed :)

[norkali]

Hey Norcali, with that Kush clone you probably should have cut off that big fan leaf that's pulling the plant down. There would still have been plenty of stem to grow roots on and plenty of leaves to give her a start. With that big fan on there, the plant will grow bent over and will probably lose too much water through the large surface area.

Thanks man. I was wondering about that too. She is still bent over today; I am tempted to go cut it off now.

Clones come rooted (for the most part) in little Jiffy pellets, surrounded by some soil in a mini-2 inch pot. Mine did. :thumbsup:

Ahhhh, wake-n-bake. :stoned:

[Xyz505]

are u growing 4 plants ?

[norkali]

Pic 1 - Day 17 - Current
Pic 2 - Day 18 - Previous C99 Grow.
Pic 3 - Day 17 - Current
Pic 4 - Day 18 - Previous
Pic 5 - Day 17 - Current, largest plant. :eek:

FYI: For anybody who hasn't posted pictures, (or if your'e just really :stoned:...) the pics are numbered in a clockwise order, lol.
1 2 3
4 5

[norkali]

Pic 1 - Day 17 - Current
Pic 2 - Day 18 - Previous

The comparisons are amazing! Pretty much the exact same environment, same genetics, same everything, and look at the differences. I would attribute (seriously) 75% of this growth to the Growth Excel and Wet Betty foliar applications. I used 8 mL Growth Excel and 5 mL Wet Betty to 1 gal. tap water, not pH'd. (My tap is nice, come to find out. :)) Applied every night so far, starting on the evening of day 12. No signs of salt deposits yet, but I will be spraying with just tap tonight to "clean" the fan leaves.

Oh yeah, the OG Kush clone will be rejoining the ladies soon, she's perkin' up. (http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/plant-problems/178879d1203707856-og-kush-clone-help-ogkush.jpg) :smokin:

[SimonSaysSmoke]

VERY NICE~~NORKALI~~

I also love the leopard print on the carpet!! Haha :wtf:

I have a few questions please. I LOVE your closet setup.

1. How often do you run your CFM Fan? As long as your 600w bulb is on, is that fan going?? (also what brand are you using and how is running, is it plugged in to an outlet?)

2. do you use any Co2 along with your ventilation, or is that plenty with the holes at the bottom?

3. What all did you use for your intake?

I would REALLY appreciate some helpful answers Norkali
This is one of my favorite grow log's:thumbsup:

[inbud]

Norkali, i am in nor cal too...where would one find a "club", i am a medical mj user...and cant seem to find clubs listed in my area..which is far northern cal....any ideas? great pics of the little ones....will you be putting them out in may?

[cwesto]

Damn son, ur comparison really puts in a nice plug for the growth excel and wet betty. I cant believe the difference.

I haver some Q:'s i need A:'s too.

1. When did u start using ur liquid karma on ur girls last time??? I got some the other day, bottle says to start administering it in veg, but i was thinking of holding off to bloom.. any input??

2. where did ur clone go??

[norkali]

1. How often do you run your CFM Fan? As long as your 600w bulb is on, is that fan going?? (also what brand are you using and how is running, is it plugged in to an outlet?)

Fan used to run 24 hrs. a day (last grow) - now it is on the same timer (dual outlet timer) that my light is on. (So whenever my light is on, yes.) The fan is a Can-Fan RS 6 High Efficiency rated at 270CFM (Free Flow)


2. do you use any Co2 along with your ventilation, or is that plenty with the holes at the bottom?

No Co2 system in place.


3. What all did you use for your intake?

Passive intake - when the fan is on, it is not only exhausting my dirty air - it is also pulling fresh air in. Since the fan is constantly pulling air out of the closet - that air needs to be constantly replaced. The PVC tubes at the bottom of the door allow that air to be replaced. The PVC tubes are placed at the bottom of door because heat rises, the coolest air in any room -for the most part- is at the floor. :jointsmile:


Norkali, i am in nor cal too...where would one find a "club", i am a medical mj user...and cant seem to find clubs listed in my area..which is far northern cal....any ideas? great pics of the little ones....will you be putting them out in may?

Cannabis Patients' Cooperatives (http://www.canorml.org/prop/cbclist.html) :thumbsup:


Damn son, ur comparison really puts in a nice plug for the growth excel and wet betty. I cant believe the difference.

I haver some Q:'s i need A:'s too.

1. When did u start using ur liquid karma on ur girls last time??? I got some the other day, bottle says to start administering it in veg, but i was thinking of holding off to bloom.. any input??

2. where did ur clone go??

1. I started using LK in veg. Not completely sure on exactly when though. This should help though - I have started using LK on my current grow already. 5mL LK to 1 gallon of water, on the second week.

2. She's back! :D
________________________________________

Look at the 4th plant, the last one on the right - is that the GDP? Growth pattern is DEFINITELY different from the other 3. Hmmmm.....

[cwesto]

Nice-on, i think my plants got a lil overload there for a second, so for this last watering i used only 6ml bigbloom. If they are looking better by next time i may up the bigbloom to around 10ml and start to add the growbig...... THEN if that all goes well i will probably start to aply small amounts of LK the following feeding with the rest of the goodies.

[norkali]

Cwesto, Big Bloom is organic, you should be using a bit more - I'm at 2 Tbl. (30) mL now per every gallon. 1st week, they got 1 Tbl..

Also, the Liquid Karma is, for the most part, the micronutrients in your solution. You should be adding a little LK along side with your Grow Big/Big Bloom/Tiger Bloom. I would add a small bit now (maybe 1 tsp.) to your next feeding and build from there.

Here was what the plants received on their last feeding:

2 Tbl. Big Bloom
1 tsp. Liquid Karma
2 tsp. Grow Big
2 tsp. Thrive Alive Green

- To 1 gallon of tap, then pH'd to 6.5.

:thumbsup:

[chinacat443]

its my understanding that FF products instill the proper ph in the water unless its out of wack to begin with......

i check my tap before adding anything and its around 6.7 so i down it a tad. the nutes dont change anything in the ph and the soil i use has natural buffers and maintains proper ph by itself.

right???

[norkali]

its my understanding that FF products instill the proper ph in the water unless its out of wack to begin with......

i check my tap before adding anything and its around 6.7 so i down it a tad. the nutes dont change anything in the ph and the soil i use has natural buffers and maintains proper ph by itself.

right???

Unfortunately not, most nutrients, Fox Farms particularly, are very acidic. They will lower the pH of your water after you add them. I always check pH after adding nutrients, and then adjust that solution to 6.5. (if in soil).

[chinacat443]

its weird i check mine pre-nutes and balance to roughly 6.3 then check after i add and its usually right around the same. ill have to pay more attention from now on..

i have learned through organic chem. that the more organic things liek this are, the more prone to acidity the soil, and stuff is. that is mostly due to the chemical decomposition of organic material....,

its almost ironic how school is helping me now....

c.cat

[cwesto]

Cwesto, Big Bloom is organic, you should be using a bit more - I'm at 2 Tbl. (30) mL now per every gallon. 1st week, they got 1 Tbl..

Also, the Liquid Karma is, for the most part, the micronutrients in your solution. You should be adding a little LK along side with your Grow Big/Big Bloom/Tiger Bloom. I would add a small bit now (maybe 1 tsp.) to your next feeding and build from there.

Here was what the plants received on their last feeding:

2 Tbl. Big Bloom
1 tsp. Liquid Karma
2 tsp. Grow Big
2 tsp. Thrive Alive Green

- To 1 gallon of tap, then pH'd to 6.5.

:thumbsup:

Right on, right on, ill do exactly that. What is that thirve alive u got?? I swear everytime i come over here u got a new toy LOL.

[SimonSaysSmoke]

Thanks Norkali!

I was wondering what are the list of nutes you used in your last grow that was completed? (what do you plan on using in the future to better your results)

And when do you use each of those (what time in the stages)?

Your plants look so damn good i was wondering your "formula" basically. I know FF has their own "chart", but i figured i'd lean toward what you use and how much/when.

Thanks so much for your time in answering these questions. :stoned: :D :thumbsup:

[norkali]

The OG Kush clone already smells DANK. Good growth lately; getting ready for the warmer weather. It is pretty much certain the the last plant on the right is a Granddaddy Purple - rogue seed.

All were topped 2 days ago; except the OG clone, which will be topped this evening. I will probably start LST tonight too...:thumbsup:

[hydrocannabis]

wow dude they look great.

[Casanova23]

very good growth, this is definitely motivation for me. I'm starting my own growth here soon, how do you add the pictures though?

[tha del sound]

All were topped 2 days ago; except the OG clone, which will be topped this evening. I will probably start LST tonight too...:thumbsup:

wouldn't topping and starting to LST in one night kinda be a lot of stress at once? or are you topping the og and lst the others?

[Mr. Brown]

Great log! Your closet is exacty what I want to do for my next grow, when i get a cash flow. Ha Rhymnoceris, ain't no party like my nana's tea party! Anyways good on ya!

[cwesto]

Norkali, do u add nutes every time u water or do u go like every other time u water??

[norkali]

:o I've been busy.

All plants are female. 100% female ratio, again.


Pic 1: Gettin' a little full! Time to flower!
Pic 2: Grandaddy Purple
Pic 3: OG Kush, LST'd
Pic 4: 4 to the left: OG Kush, Center: C99, to the right: GDP.
Pic 5: With the dome on.


Cuts are under two 4 ft. F40 regular flouro's for now. Flowering will begin in the closet tonight; I don't have enough room to let them recover for 2 weeks. :(

At least I have cuts! :)

[norkali]

wouldn't topping and starting to LST in one night kinda be a lot of stress at once? or are you topping the og and lst the others?

Yes, it would. So, I topped, then waited 3-4 days to LST. I topped them all, but waited longer to LST the OG. lol.


Norkali, do u add nutes every time u water or do u go like every other time u water??

Like, Justaseed (http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/52326-lovely-ladies.html), I 'feed' twice, then 'water' every third time. (feeding: with nutrients, watering: just h20)

[OahuLocal]

:o I've been busy.

All plants are female. 100% female ratio, again.


Pic 1: Gettin' a little full! Time to flower!
Pic 2: Grandaddy Purple
Pic 3: OG Kush, LST'd
Pic 4: 4 to the left: OG Kush, Center: C99, to the right: GDP.
Pic 5: With the dome on.


Cuts are under two 4 ft. F40 regular flouro's for now. Flowering will begin in the closet tonight; I don't have enough room to let them recover for 2 weeks. :(

At least I have cuts! :)

Thats Awesome 100% Females. Any of them giving off distinctive odors?

[cwesto]

Wow Norkali, I didnt even see that all ur plants are girls again. Congratulations, its a girl. LOL

No the real question is, if and when u have children do u want the same ratio????? LOL I crack myself up:)

PS - U should send some of them there clones my way to michigan LOL

[norkali]

Thats Awesome 100% Females. Any of them giving off distinctive odors?

:D OG Kush smells like skunk, GDP smells like black licorice almost, and the C99 doesn't smell much....

[OahuLocal]

So you top and lst your plants?

Do you get better results rather then just focus on 1 technique at a time with each plant?

[norkali]

I didn't top and LST at the same time; topping first, then LST a couple of days later. :thumbsup:

[Artisin530x]

I read through your 1st & 2nd grow, looks like you're a natural, good job! I can only hope that I'm as quick of a learner as you

[OahuLocal]

I didn't top and LST at the same time; topping first, then LST a couple of days later. :thumbsup:

Sorry I'll Rephrase my question. Is there a difference in potency or yeild by using 2 Techniques on 1 plant at different times? Compared to using 1 technique on 1 plant through out veg and flower?

[norkali]

Sorry I'll Rephrase my question. Is there a difference in potency or yeild by using 2 Techniques on 1 plant at different times? Compared to using 1 technique on 1 plant through out veg and flower?

As far as potency goes, I (IMO) don't think that the way you train a plant (LST/topping/ScrOG/SOG, etc.) has any influence upon the end potency of the plant.

Yield though? Definately, it depends on the variables though. Some strains 'like' being topped, and some just don't. I'd say that the same applies to LST'ing as well. For example, the C99 loves being topped and LST'd; each of the plants recover quickly and keep on chuggin' along. I can't say the same for the Granddaddy Purple though, which was treated in the same manner, at the same time. The GDP took an extra day or two to recover and didn't end up even growing new tops from where I topped it! It just 'gave up' and focused the auxins to the rest of the nodes.

So, it depends. If you have a strain that can handle training well (topping, lst) then using both techniques may prove 'better' than using only one, or none. Other strains though would suffer, like Big Bud, which doesn't like being topped, or, GDP.

[stinkyattic]

Hey I just wanted to say hello- I'm here tagging along but have nothing constructive to add- you're already a pro it seems! lol
What a lovely bunch of plants you have.
Sorry if it has been asked, but what cut of the OGK do you run, which have you tried so far, and if you've tried a few, which has been your favorite so far? My 'Abusive' smells skunky-lemony when cured. It's not reputed to be the best of the OGKs.

[OahuLocal]

I get what your saying now. ITs basically the plants liking and using these techniques basically have effects on the yeild but not potency because its in its genes?....:stoned:

Cant wait for the next update!:thumbsup:

[norkali]

Hey I just wanted to say hello- I'm here tagging along but have nothing constructive to add- you're already a pro it seems! lol
What a lovely bunch of plants you have.
Sorry if it has been asked, but what cut of the OGK do you run, which have you tried so far, and if you've tried a few, which has been your favorite so far? My 'Abusive' smells skunky-lemony when cured. It's not reputed to be the best of the OGKs.

:computerlove1: lol. The dispensary that I went to actually had no idea what cut of OG it was, nor had they even heard of different OG cuts. :rolleyes:

I have some absolutely AMAZING finished OGK right now though! (Notice it shows no mention of any specific cut) I mean WOW - this is some good shit! :jointsmile: Smells like tire shop/rubber eraser/skunk.....absolutely lovely smell.


Beautiful babies, I had about an 75% success rate; first try.
Girls going to bed, after lights off.
Just-a-waitin' for the buds.
:)
:D

[the image reaper]

you do great work, norkali :thumbsup: ... I see lots of stability there, everybody growing together, and some yummy-looking buds ... ya need to pop some 'NorCal Daddy's Girls' in there, too :jointsmile:

[SnSstealth]

lookin great norcali.... how do you like that OGK? noticed you had some GDP started too..yummy stuff

WT

[cwesto]

The OGK looks amazing, the plants look amazing, clones look amazing. Looks all to be 100% certified amazing. Good job:thumbsup:

[norkali]

Things are looking good so far...:)

[SnSstealth]

lookin lovely:jointsmile:
whiskeytango

[norkali]

:(

How fast things can change.

Powdery mildew ended up taking hold in my little closet o' goodness. All plants nixed.

I will be cleaning my space and starting over.

:cursing:

Thanks to all who enjoyed.

[smokealot123]

holey shit dude congrats on the amazing grow ! now roll up a fat blunt and pass:jointsmile:

[bombdiggity]

holey shit dude congrats on the amazing grow ! now roll up a fat blunt and pass:jointsmile:

uhhhhhhh

.......

[cwesto]

Sorry broseph, thats pretty shitty man. I know all will go good next time.

By the way what was your humididty when that was going down, for my future references.

[chinacat443]

wasnt any way to salvage anything huh?
i would have tryed to clean each leaf of the plants and cleaned the room.
lysol works wonders...

[cwesto]

wasnt any way to salvage anything huh?
i would have tryed to clean each leaf of the plants and cleaned the room.
lysol works wonders...

I dont think I would try smoking any moldy buds. Ingesting mold = bad news bears.

Tidbit of the day:
Many places around New Orleans, including St. Bernad Parish, are still cleaning MOLD from the houses that Katrina hit.

[Tree_Burner]

any updates?

[DoDoFoShoDoe]

how much does OG Kush run for in dispensaries?

[dgsgandalf]

Can you still make water extracted hash from mildewed buds? I heard somewhere you could...

Will buds mildew even if the humidity in the room is around 50%?

And i was wondering why OG Kush is called "Kush" if it's mostly sativa. Real strains of kush are nearly if not 100% pure indica and share genetics originating from the Kush Mountain range in the far East. Maybe the name comes from similar effects of smoking? Any ideas?

Peace!

[frostymcfailure]

yeah i always thought kush was primarily indica; stonerish thing to do to name a high sativa after an indica..


:Tomcat:

[Ktrain]

so Norkali how was the smoke off these plants? I read the entire thread, looks great but no smoke report....:wtf:

[JD1stTimer]

KTrain, WTF you read the whole thread well, powdery mildew got them and they had to be tossed. No smoke. :(

[Ktrain]

Oh chit, I thought that was his previous grow. I thought he got 6 or 7 oz's from this grow?