Does this look ok?

[pudder]

I started working on a grow box well cabinet that in all costs around $200. I have pictures to go with it.

contains:

8 - CFL compact fluorescents 23w 100w equivalent 2700k
4 - CFL fluorescents t8 tubes 17w 75w equivalent 6400k
2 - CFL fluorescents t4 tubes 8w unknown equivalent 3100k

need to work on air flow next. have to have doors open and fan on them to keep cool enough. Don't want dead plants ya know. Cabinet is also being used for all storage of nutes, spare bulbs, soil, and other related hardware, including all my smoking apparatus.

What should be added and what should be removed. So far I have a total of around 1100watts but am only consuming 268watts.

what kind of cooling should I use and where should it be located in the cabinet? Also I do know I need air inlets so air flow can be made.

here are some pics of this so far. I have not hidden wires yet nor is this completed. Just looking for some advice on what else should be done.

another thing is the hood I made is not complete either. I ran outta time to finsih it completely it is now almost 3am and I need some sleep but I wanted to post before I went to bed. and see if anyone had anything to say.

happy smoking :rastasmoke:

[pudder]

oh yeah and another thing is this cabinet stands 6' high and was purchased from walmart for $40. Larger then I though when it was put together. So far with my buget this is all I could afford to do so far.

Can wait to see what this box will do for me compared to my other box that I made from Plexiglas.

[blackstar240]

what are the dimensions on that cabinet? is it plastic? I was just at walmart today looking for a cabinet but didn't see anything like that. Seems like a good size especially for 40 bucks

[hydrocannabis]

UR grow cab looks great.

so what is the length width height of the cab.

well good luck with the grow. dude.

[pudder]

it is plastic takes 10 mins to snap together. its 69x24x18 around there anyway. its made by sterlite. the dimentions are not exact I am at work on my phone so. but that's pretty close.

[gt420z]

i think that should work great man. if i was you i would line the inside of that tub, your lights are in, in something reflective.

[pudder]

I planned on doing that. just ran outta time last night. I will be working on ventlation and the rest of the stuff tonight after work.

[pudder]

Here is my cab now. I added the fan duct. Paint can and a 9" fan with wire screen removed. So far works well. A lot better then without I know that. Temp stayin around 80 - 84 degrees. Want it lower yet but I need to increase my air intake first to see if that helps at all.

included some pics of the fixture as well. I cut the sides out and made room for air to flow threw. also added foil to the fixture as well a load brighter now.

also just watered after taking pictures. Started looking a little droppy.

Yes and there was stretch but dong alright now. I let them grow without the light being right on them so I have to fight with that till they at least get bigger but supports will still be needed throughout there life but that ok. That can be accomplished easily.

Let me know what you think.

Happy smoking :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke:

Pudder

[water]

dude if ur using passive intakes remember that they need to be 5x larger than extraction

if ur using active intake then make sure the intake fan is at lower speed to maintain negative pressure within the drobe


will u be using a carbon filter?

[pudder]

eventually I will be upgrading this yes. This is just for now case I am broke.

carbon filter yes sooner or later.

[pudder]

dude if ur using passive intakes remember that they need to be 5x larger than extraction

if ur using active intake then make sure the intake fan is at lower speed to maintain negative pressure within the drobe


will u be using a carbon filter?
ok so does that mean that if I had a 1 inch whole for exaust I should have 5 holes for intake?

is this what you mean. I am using I think is 6in pintcan with fan. where should I put ait inlets by loking at my box? any ideas?

Pudder

[water]

6" extraction hole means 30" hole(s)

as ur extracting out the top u want passive intakes at the bottom so the air has to pass through the plants

black oven hood filters are good for covering the passive intakes they keep light in/out and are free flowing so the air is not restricted

sometimes u need to double up the hood filters



good luck

[pudder]

thank man that's a huge help I will be adding wholes tonight after work.

keep all you guys updated on what I do.

[Slackersulli]

Yeah. Ignore that 5x stuff. You're intake should be half the size of your exhaust. A 4" exhaust would call for a 2" intake. 30 inches worth of intake holes would be rediculous

[thex420]

What kind of sockets did you use to connect to your plastic hood. I am going to try that same method for my scrog box. How did you wire it ?

[pudder]

well i just bought the normal 1 way sockets from lowes. The wall mountable ones. I will add more later outta time.

[pudder]

What kind of sockets did you use to connect to your plastic hood. I am going to try that same method for my scrog box. How did you wire it ?

What I used was one of those shoe box sized storage containers.

I went to lowes and bought 4 bulb sockets and 4 Y splitters. I screwed the sockets into the bottom of the storage container and wired everything inside the box. a total of 14 inches of wire in box total and connected directly to the plug which plugs directly into my power strip. I will find the pics of what I bought and post them and also post some pics of the final project. If you have any other questions let me know and I will help you make one. There really cheap and work quite well. I have a totoal of around 16000 lumens and that is with 4 sockets you could add more sockets if you wanted. or even get bogher bulbs. Watch the heat though they create more heat then you think they so. I put some breather holes in the top after it was finished and also cut out the short sides of the container. so theres come air flow. I don't burn the plants and also don't build up heat.

I also made up a diagram for you so you see how i wired the homemade hood.

Just check the pics and you will see what I did.

I will add another post to show the individual parts used.


Yeah. Ignore that 5x stuff. You're intake should be half the size of your exhaust. A 4" exhaust would call for a 2" intake. 30 inches worth of intake holes would be rediculous

What I did was had a 8" extraction point and 4 - 4" intakes. 2 on each side of the box. and one with a blower that is 5 inches.

So 5 holes in one out. Temp is a LOW - 72 HIGH - 79

[pudder]

here are the pics of the socket and the diagram.

these are the exact ones I used for this hood.

oh yeah and I covered the hood in aluminum foil and was careful not to touch any wires with the aluminum. I used gorilla glue to make sure it didn't come off.

[notorious P.O.T]

hey pudder,
is that aluminum foil on the ground and walls? if so then that should be removed. it can create hotspots n burn up ur plants(or your house).. just go to wally world n get survival blankets from the sporting goods section. they are mylar and will not create hotspots, nor will they endanger your beauties. Other then that everything looks great keep it up.

[pudder]

hey pudder,
is that aluminum foil on the ground and walls? if so then that should be removed. it can create hotspots n burn up ur plants(or your house).. just go to wally world n get survival blankets from the sporting goods section. they are mylar and will not create hotspots, nor will they endanger your beauties. Other then that everything looks great keep it up.

That is just there till my mylar arrives at my door. I just ordered it last night. 50'x4' for around $18. So as soon as it arrives that will be changed. Thanks for the concern though.

50 foot by 48 inch roll Mylar - 1 mil
1 $17.95 $17.95
Dip N Grow - 2 ounce
1 $7.95 $7.95
Grodan Stonewool A'Ok Starter Plugs Sheet of 98
1 $12.70 $12.70
Reusable Tray Insert for Rockwool
1 $2.75 $2.75
pH Test Papers
1 $5.95 $5.95

this is what i bought so can't wait to get emm ran outta test strips so relying on my multi tester. so can't test water in or out just soil ph at the moment.

can't wait to get mylar though. I think the stuff looks cool as he//.

anyways, here is an update on the grown in the past 2 days. compared and they are def different.

one was taken on the 19th and the other today the 21st.

growin man growin. oh yeah and by the way that the box looks to you guys how tall should I grow these babies before I start to flower. Any suggestions? Week 3 as of now or around there don't really remember when I started these guys. these should be bigger though I know that I had to deal with some stretch at first. i have about 4 sq feet oif space to work with at the moment and an using 5qt pots.

What would ya recommend?


thanks for the comments notorious P.O.T greatly appreciated.

[pudder]

also another addition to the collection.

I am adding 6 more lights to 2 the next 2 shelves down. these are ballasts for 1 - 3 light setup and are T8s. have got emm for free from work. Boss wants to help as well huge pot fan and a good friend of mine. The only thing he wants in return is a sample. Doing this for cloning. Wanna have an area set up for when I start this.

my wife is getting into this and wants to try it outside as well so and outside op and an indoor op.

next will come ventilation for the other shelves. and thats about it for now.

[notorious P.O.T]

oh yeah and by the way that the box looks to you guys how tall should I grow these babies before I start to flower. Any suggestions? Week 3 as of now or around there don't really remember when I started these guys. these should be bigger though I know that I had to deal with some stretch at first. i have about 4 sq feet oif space to work with at the moment and an using 5qt pots.

What would ya recommend?


well that all depends how much room you have vertically. and the strain of the plant. typically the plant will double or triple in height when flowering is induced. but like i said that can vary a little due to genetics and such.

[pudder]

well that all depends how much room you have vertically. and the strain of the plant. typically the plant will double or triple in height when flowering is induced. but like i said that can vary a little due to genetics and such.

don't know the strain because of the fact that I am using bagseed and waiting on some NL. which then I will drop a shelve and grow it a little taller.

Anyways I have around 20" of grow room the plants are already taking up 4-5 inches of that space right now. So with tthat being said how high should these be before I start the process of flowering. You said that they double or triple there growth during flowering. So should I wait 1 more week and then flower because this would put me at week 4.

Whats u think?

[notorious P.O.T]

you can lst them and then veg longer if thats what your looking to do. it will increase the amount of time you can veg em for which will inturn increase your final yeild but if lsting is not an option for you then id say flower them when they hit 8 or 9 inches tall and you should be fine.

[bstheory]

What I did was had a 8" extraction point and 4 - 4" intakes. 2 on each side of the box. and one with a blower that is 5 inches.

Wait. How does it make sense that the area of exhaust be smaller than the area of a passive intake? If you want a consistently one directional intake, doesn't it make sense to have more exhaust than intake? As your passive intake holes get bigger the strength of intake decreases, right?? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!

(Also remember: an increase in a circle's diameter increases the circle's area exponentially. So, a 8" hole is not double the size of a 4" hole, but closer to quadruple the size.)

Peace.

[pudder]

How do these guys look now. There growing bigger then before. At least I hope that is what they did....lol

let me know if they look healthy. Need to water them today. Day 2 no water soil getting dry.

[pudder]

Oh and a pic or a new hood in progress. Wanter to distribute the light a little better.

Mylar and other goodies will arrive tomorrow sometime so after work I will finish the hood. Can't wait.

It can hold 6 outlets for a total of 12 lights. But more then likely will house only 8 - 10.

[pudder]

new hood need reflective material and its finished. just an update. more to come. and the new clone area set up. along with more pics with the mylar.

Bore wanted to post.

[hiroshi_87]

The cab op looks great man, I've been following with great interest in your ideas and progress as I set up my own cabinet op. Keep up the great pictures of those beauties. =)

-Hiro

[pudder]

been a few days since i posted. Been battling a few nute probs. but they are growing and only 3 outta 9 have the issues.

here are ome more pics.

well one for now. not much time to look for more at the moment.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

they look great.

The only thing I would recommend is reading up on Low Stress Training(LST) before you start your NL. It will triple your yeild if done properly.

good work on the cabinet.

[pudder]

thanks for the info and I need to learn alot yet about other stuff such as lst and everything else. want the full experience ya know. Play around on my next grow.

[pudder]

Some new pics. Well got 2 females outta 10. One turned hermie. showed male and female flowers.

But I got one healthy plant which was cloned.

but here are some pics of the bud so far on the plant.

[FryGuy420]

Man you guys are some hardcore growers i have a growing lamp and a 75 watt bulb and i just started my 12/12 at midnigth and i have all of this in a a dresser that i made in to a growing room