1st grow, all flos, small space, a lot of learning... [Archive] - Green Grass Forums

systrex

10-14-2007, 08:35 AM

Hello All... New member to the site, though I have been reading on here for a while now...

Im about to start my first grow, and figured I would start a grow log to share my experience, obtain some help if needed etc etc...

Well I have my grow spaced all picked out..

Its a cabinet that I am now longer using... it is 5'H x 28"W x 15"L which should give me total sqft of 2.91...

I have a idea of what lights im going to use and how to make them... I plan on using 18 26w 6500k compact flos... basically gonna wire up 9 (one every 3") standard bulb sockets then buy Y extenders for a total of 18 bulbs and build a hood around that...

Actual wattage of bulbs will be 468W for a total of 28k lumens which should put me at 160W per sqft and 9,621 lumens per sqft

as far as intake and exhaust I have 2 120mm, 4 80mm computer fans.. I plan on using 1 120mm and 2 80mm for the intake and vise versa for the exhaust.... The intake will be mounted on lower backside of the cabinet and the exhaust on the top front of the cabinet ..

I have a few other things to work out as of now, further ventilation in case of heat problems, odor control(though thats not a big big problem), size of pots I need, soil mix, and waiting on my seeds to get here

systrex

10-14-2007, 11:39 AM

Well here is the grow area... Looking to paint the inside today and hopefully get all the bulb sockets wired up/hung

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2944/1006207sb1.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1006207sb1.jpg)

systrex

10-15-2007, 12:34 AM

Well today I got paint, new hinges, weather stripping to go around the doors to stop light, soil and some lighting stuff...

For the lights I planned on just wiring up the bulb sockets in parallel and being done with it..

ran into a few problems though, bought the wrong sockets ( I got 660w 250V) and im pretty sure I need 125v...

Also I got regular lamp wire which im pretty sure I need something a little thicker with a ground?

thats about it for today.

systrex

10-15-2007, 02:34 AM

Well I ended up trying the fixtures I got cause I wasnt sure if they went they would only work on 250v or up to 250 v...

here is what I came up with...

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8792/1006209uj8.jpg

systrex

10-15-2007, 04:21 AM

One thing I guess im confused about is... I always thought there was a black, red, and green.....

with "lamp" wire there just both copper, no ground.... with the fixture I got it says the silver screw is "hot" black and the gold screw is red....

I at least made sure I connected all the same things together even though the wire did not have red/black...

here is a lil diagram of how I wired them I hope its ok..
Forgive the horrible drawing...

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3091/55042071co8.png

systrex

10-16-2007, 04:48 AM

Todays update:

Got the inside and the doors of the cab painted white

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2231/1006211tr7.jpg

Tomorrows goals are the weather stripping, moving the shelf to the top(to hold things like nutes, water, etc), and hopefully finishing the lights...

systrex

10-18-2007, 08:52 PM

Figured I would give you guys an update....

As far as the grow space goes I still need to 100% light proof it, I found a few small cracks so I need to fix those.

Need to get a lock for it

Install the fans

and mount the lights/finish wiring

I ordered some joey weed Cinderella 99 still waiting for those to come.. hopefully with in the next week... and thats it for now.

Skrappie

10-19-2007, 12:07 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing how your cab turns out, if everything pans out how you are planning, i'm sure you will have some happy plants

trynagethigh

10-19-2007, 02:10 AM

i have that exact same cabinet, here is what mine looks like so far. I still have some more to finish just havent had the time lately. i used three ceiling fan light fixtures mounted to the shelf that came with it. i had an extension cord run through a small hole at the bottom of the cab and tacked up the side to the top with cable clips but will be taking it out and i will just use some old electrical conduit i have and do it a safer way. i was actually trying to figure out a way to make a cool tube for the cfl's some kind of way to really get the heat out of there.

systrex

10-19-2007, 04:27 AM

@trynagethigh: Nice for my lights I was planning on getting a piece of wood mounting my fixtures to it then hanging the wood kind of like your shelf..

Couple more updates... Got all the light leaks sealed ended up just using black duct tape for a lot of the corners then im gonna cover it with white duct tape. also got a temp/humidity monitor today, got a timer, and finally ran an ext cord into the cab for power...

Tomorrows plans are to seal the hole around the ext cord, finish wiring up the lights, hopefully mount the lights.

Need to look for an adapter to wire up my fans, need to find more 6500k light bulbs(walmart was out today), still need to find a lock(trying to find one thats a key lock that will keep the door pressed tight), and still trying to find pots that will work...

Im looking for pots to maximize the floor space I have, round will waste space, the ones I found that would work were around 5 gallons which is to big.. I think at the most Im only going to need about 2 gallon pots....

and I think thats it, here is a pic...

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7071/1006214xs2.jpg

trynagethigh

10-19-2007, 07:16 AM

looks good systrex. I took a piece of 1x2 and mounted it where the doors meet and then used some foam insulation on it and around the door edges. To help keep the doors closed tightly, i used some cabinet catches. One part is mounted to the door and the other part to the cabinet base and top. I used two sets, they work real good. I also took one shelf and screwed it horizontally from one side of the cabinet to the other in the rear for support as the cabinet was quite shaky without it. as for a lock i got a cheap latch lock and just got a small padlock to lock it. im also going to put some casters on the bottom so i can roll the cabinet around as needed cause moving this thing on carpet is a bitch with no wheels. below is a pic of the catches for the doors.

as for pots i was gonna use 3 10" pots but i think i am going dwc as i can fit (2) 5 gallon buckets in there and will probably do a vertical scrog. I will eventually have to hang the whole light board vertically with some wire by drilling two holes in each end and hang it on hooks screwed into the top of the cabinet. this way my scrog area goes from 30" wide and 18" deep to 30" high(or more) and 30" wide thus increasing my scrogging space. the plants will grow vertically but flower horizontally. hopefully the buds wont get too heavy to need support otherwise ill be tying them up for support. im also gonna take that cardboard backing shit off and get me a piece of white tileboard or a piece of 1/4 plywood and some liquid nails as it will help with the noise reduction.

trynagethigh

10-19-2007, 07:34 AM

here is what i did with a big screen tv..

http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/99751-sea-green-my-screen.html

gotta use what you got to get what u want huh?:thumbsup:

systrex

10-19-2007, 07:40 AM

I thought about mounting a board but what I ended up doing instead was took some door weather stripping mounted it on the inside on 1 door so when it closes the other door pushes against it creating a seal... along with that and some extra foam insulation it worked pretty well....

I wish I could do a padlock setup but I kind of wanted to go for more a stealthier look so im gonna try some basic keyhole locks with latches on the back for the top and bottom which shouldn't stick out to bad..

I agree with you on the cardboard backing it sucks... Right now I think it might work for me since at the most i might mount a couple 80mm computers fans on it but for my next grow(gotta get through this one first lol) Im def gonna look into a better intake/exhaust system and I dont think that back will hold up so ill be looking to replace that also..

Hope your grow goes well

systrex

10-22-2007, 02:43 AM

Hello all.. Little update..

well I decided to get some emergency blankets and use those instead of the flat white paint..

Still need to get more lights, every walmart around me has been out of the light bulbs I need for the past weeks, thought I have found them other places they are about 2 dollars a pack cheaper than anywhere else I have found them...

Found some trash cans that Im gonna use as pots for the plants final home(2.1 gallons each which should be big enough)

Pretty much got the venting worked out... just need to build a little base for my cab to sit on then gonna route the intake through the bottom(trying to avoid any major signs that its a grow cab) though I got the exhaust all mounted an working...

all light leaks have been taken care of and got the locks installed...

So now it seems I just need to finish the lights, finish the intake, and wait for my seeds to get here(sigh its been over a week) here is an updated pic..

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7691/1006223gq7.jpg

trynagethigh

10-22-2007, 05:26 AM

looks good systrex. man i got two of those blankets too..lol, they have been in my trunk for a week now. how many do you plan on growing in there, just three. dont forget to make some holes in the bottoms of the cans for drainage otherwise you may get root rot( if ur using soil).as far as that padlock, i didnt think that one out too good cause as soon a i put it on there my kids wanted to know what was in the cabinet..i told them it was just my tools and my 10 year old insisted i open it up and show her so i did. she saw there was nothing in there but tools so she has left me alone about it...LOL. only real problem i have run into is sealing them damn light leaks around the hinges. I have two tiny tiny leaks but ill put some more weatherstripping around them..good luck brotha and keep the updates coming.

systrex

10-22-2007, 10:35 AM

Thanks, Well what I planned on doing was germinating 8-9 seeds in hopes that at least 7-8 germinate ok, then plan on at least half being male so that brings me down to about 3-4 then if its 4 pick out the best 3..

I think it works out to about 1 square meter per plant so that should be fine, and from the top of the trash can to the end of the exhaust it leaves me with about 3 and half feet of vertical grow room... I think that might be enough buuut I might try to get a few more inches of it when I build the base for it to sit on for the intake then cut holes for the final buckets to rest in... and yeah im using soil... Figure I should at least get a few soil grows in before I even start to think about hydro

systrex

10-24-2007, 11:22 PM

I ended up finishing the lights and getting those hung... still need to get more bulbs(all the walmarts around me are out sigh)

still need to mount and build a base for the intake, finish the walls, and clean up the wiring..... Besides that I think everything is ready to go... Here is a pic

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2535/1006233sq0.jpg

killerweed420

10-24-2007, 11:30 PM

I already beat you to the walmart cfl's.lol

That looks like its going to be a nice grow cabinet.

systrex

10-24-2007, 11:46 PM

I was able to pick up 3 packs today(6 bulbs)... so only need 2 more packs... I know another place that sells the exact same ones but there 3 dollars more a pack blah... I suppose if the walmart near me does not get more in by the time I get my seeds then I will have to give in and buy the more expensive ones.... on another note though.... I called another walmart near me today and they said they had 8 packs.. I went there they only had 3 so I bitched and they ended up giving me a $10 gift card so at least that will pay for another pack

systrex

10-25-2007, 09:15 PM

Still no seeds... Im expecting them sometime early next week though...

after doing some initial heat tests things are not looking to good.. temps got up to about 101 with just the exhaust and the doors cracked, about 95 with a fan blowing on the lights, exhaust and doors cracked.... I want to keep things about 75-80 and im doubting with adding my intake that its gonna drop the temps 15-20 degrees... soo only thing I can think of is try to lower my ambient temps(room where the cab is it stays about 72-74(due to 3 computers running), rethink my intake/exhaust and/or trying to create better airflow in the cab(the light fixture blocks a lot but I have an idea for that)

another thing... A while back I read that the sun produces about 10k lumens on a clear day in the mid afternoon then around 2500-4000 on cloudy days and in the morning/evening...

Then I read that you only need 2500-3k per square foot..

My whole thought being my light setup was to get at least 9k lumens per square foot..

well after doing a number crunch

1800 lumens(per light) x 16 = 28,800
Square foot of cab = 2.91666

28800 / 2.91666 = 9874 lumens per square foot... Im thinking maybe I went a bit overboard?

whisky

10-25-2007, 09:32 PM

:D yea kindof.. about 4 for each plant is enough and less lights are ok also if you position and reflect them good, which you have covered. you should be ok with 10-12 lights there I wouldnt add more. I dont know what fan you have but get a desk fan and put it next to the pots and have it pointing upward and run it at low, itll just shoot off all the heat upwards where the vent can get it out.

you might want to make a hole somewhere in the bottom of that cab so new air can come in.. and the fan will push it up and around.

great job, what seed breed are you getting?

good luck!

systrex

10-25-2007, 10:43 PM

Right now I have 12 lights but im setup to run 16(walmart was out) so I guess ill just keep what I have for right now and see how that works...

for the exhaust I have a 250cfm inline fan and for the intake I planned on building a base for the cab then running another 250 inline fan for the intake which will come up from under the plants.... which should also leave me enough space to put a oscillating fan in there.. I also planned on cutting 1/2" 3/4" holes between the lights to allow for hot air to escape easier...

Im getting some AK47 x C99 Joey Weed Seeds

killerweed420

10-25-2007, 11:36 PM

I would take a look at the carbon filter thread and build one to keep the stink down a little.
Thats going to be a nice grow.

systrex

10-26-2007, 12:06 AM

Killerweed420: Yeah I have been looking into building one... read a couple threads already.. even though smell is not a huge concern of mine it still is one... My idea is to just replace the 90 degree bend with the carbon filter.. I just need to make sure its not to long so my cab doors can still close... and for the intake i got some "vent filters" which should help keep dust, mold spores, cat dander(have a couple cats)... so it cant hurt to have "cleaner" air entering the cab...

systrex

10-29-2007, 12:59 AM

I finally got my intake mounted and setup... though I am having some major heat issues..

with 12 lights, doors closed etc i get temps around 96-99..... added a little desk fan in there to help move some more air.. still about 93-95..

not really sure what to do... I tried drilling some holes in my light fixture to help move air but that didnt help....

I think my main problems are my ambient temps(the room alone is 76-80), the light fixture being to wide and not allowing enough air to travel to the top of the cabinet, and not enough air circulation in the cab...

So as far as the ambient temps there is not to much I can do about that since the rest of the house is usually 67-68 and even with the ac running it just never seems to cool this room enough, replace the light fixture with something a little less wide (should be able to cut out about 6-7" of depth from it) hopefully that helps air circulation, and get a bigger fan inside of the cab... if all of that does not help then I am out of ideas....(still trying to keep this a low key grow but its getting louder and louder lol)

systrex

10-29-2007, 02:39 PM

Well the seeds have arrived... and are in the process of germinating(paper towel method).. I had got some starter seed soil but ended up not liking it so today after work ill be picking up some Fox Farm Light Warrior Agro-Ponic Grow Medium and in the meantime changing my light fixture, getting another fan, and hopefully keeping those temps at least in the low 80's

Will keep you all updated..

systrex

10-31-2007, 01:55 AM

3 out of 6 seeds are showing a taproot. 2 are cracked open and should show soon, and 1 has not shown me anything yet... So I will be planting those 3 tonight and hopefully the other 3 tomorrow(granted that they germinate)

On a side note... I tried to go out and get a water ph test kit and a soil test kit... was unable to find a test kit for soil and the only water test kits I could find only had a range of 6-7.6 which im pretty sure is not good enough..... not really sure where else to look... I guess ill have to get something online...

CannabisCarl2134

10-31-2007, 03:46 AM

Flicks? Can't just or give Constructive Criticism without them.... Check a local hydro shop, lowes, Home Depot; and just ask where they think one could be found. Take pics of you set-up, lighting, soil, etc..

systrex

10-31-2007, 02:38 PM

Planted the other 3 seeds today.. got a 6 out of 6 germination.. not bad.. the first 3 still have not broken soil....Pics to come later today

systrex

11-02-2007, 01:18 AM

Sorry for the lack of updates just not a lot has been going on....

Lets see...

Planted 3 germinated seeds on the 30th and 3 more on the 31st...

Today is the 1st, 2 have finally broken soil.... besides that nothing else has really happened...

Here are some pics

Plant 1 that broke soil...
(Plant 2 is just a lil smaller so no point in posting a pic of that)
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3403/1006254lf0.jpg

The setup
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3374/1006252sq7.jpg

The setup 2
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6428/1006253hq7.jpg

Also I have been able to contain the temps a lil better..
Added another fan inside the cab, another fan in the room where the cab is, and moved everything away from the cab to hopefully create better airflow.. I have been reading around 78-84

P.S. I want to get a hps light for flowering but I also wanted to keep this an all flo grow so idk... I dont think to many people would say no to having an hps light if i could, right?

CannabisCarl2134

11-02-2007, 03:17 AM

Nice! Very Clean.

trynagethigh

11-02-2007, 06:08 AM

systrex good idea with that smaller piece holding the lights. i think im gonna have to thin mine out as the heat is getting trapped at the bottom since that shelf is so wide its keeping the heat from rising to the top. damn..i hate doing shit twice, but oh well "tis necessary".I think i may just take my jigsaw and cut out around my fixtures and see how that works out.

systrex

11-02-2007, 10:09 AM

Well I woke up this morning to find another one that broke ground :)
So that makes a total of 4 out of 6..

I noticed this on one of them, the end of the leaf is yellowing on 1 side and starting on the other..... Maybe im just being over cautious but is this normal?

CannabisCarl2134

11-02-2007, 07:46 PM

Looks good! Soil kind of looks Thick. Go pick up some Perlite, and Vermiculite at the store, mix it in with your soil, and you should have very good drainage; Happy plant.
~ Greens Brotha

tokr2153

11-03-2007, 07:30 AM

nice set up cant wait till theres some green in there

systrex

11-03-2007, 09:57 AM

Some updates...

5 out of 6 seeds have broken soil though 1 has not come all the way up yet so no need to take a pic of that...

I moved the lights a little closer, about 1 chain notch which is about 1/2"..... the plants are 1 1/2 - 2 1/2" away from the light I placed my hand between the light and the plant warm but not even close to burning so they should be fine...(trying my best to not have them stretch at all).... I figure after the 1st week or so of growth I can screw in the other 4 bulbs I have to bring it to a total of 10.. included are some pics..

systrex

11-06-2007, 03:56 PM

couple updates...

Looks like 2 of the seeds did not make it... 1 never came up, I went looking for it annnnd nothing :( the other looked like it started to come up but ended up rotting out.. idk why :(

so I am left with 4 that are doing pretty well.. i miiight germ the other couple seeds I have but we will see...

anyway I think this brings us to about day 7(counting from the day I actually put the seeds in the soil)..

Pics included..

erock0609

11-06-2007, 04:09 PM

Nice set up Systrex! Simple and clean. Im sure you will have some nice plants.

I am a first time grower but during my grow I have used only flo light and had great sucsess. Switching to hps might increase yield but im sure you would do great with all of your flos.

Looking forward to updates.

e
:hippy:

systrex

11-07-2007, 05:30 AM

Figure Ill wait until tomorrow for some more picture updates.... No real news...Im thinking the humidity needs to be a little higher... a few times I have seen it all the way down to 19-21% which I dont know is baaad but I dont think its good.... also I think im gonna transplant once the plants reach the 4th or 5th set of leafs, wait a few days start lst, wait a couple days and start some ferts..

Notes to self... Get ferts, new soil mix, and 1 gallon pots for transplant..

robbyg

11-08-2007, 12:20 PM

SUBSCRIBED! Good luck!

systrex

11-09-2007, 08:33 AM

ok time for a picture.. maybe its just me but it does not seem like they are growing to fast.. guess it could be that I check em 20 times a day lol... but here are some pics..

systrex

11-09-2007, 08:34 AM

and 1 more...

systrex

11-11-2007, 05:33 PM

well today will be day 12-13... Got some bigger pots for the 1st transplant.. they are 1.5 gallon trash cans. which should easily last me all the way through vegging and then once I start to flower I have some 2 and half gallon trash cans...

Also bought some perlite to mix with my soil for the transplant which some said my soil looked a little heavy so that should help..

anyway ill probably transplant later today or tomorrow(most likely tomorrow), Since now there will not be any room left on the floor for the fans im gonna have to find a different way to mount them... and do a little cleaning before I transplant(spilled some dirt etc)...

Pics later today or tomorrow..

oh and incase anyone was wondering.. I plan on vegging until about the first week of January which should allow me ot finish flowering around late February/early march..

systrex

11-18-2007, 02:22 PM

Well its been a little while since I posted and Im having some problems....

1. I know I need to transplant bad..

anythough... some of the leafs are turning brown and becoming very dry on the edges, any ideas? heres some pics...

DreamerGirl7

11-18-2007, 05:58 PM

You have a nice seedling but they are turning yellow and then brown maybe cause your lights are to close to the plants.

Try to raise up you lights . Height between plants and light should be at least 30 - 35 cm .

systrex

11-19-2007, 05:10 AM

I thought with flos and compact flos they could be only a few inchs away cause when I put my hand above the plant its not even warm...

systrex

12-01-2007, 11:55 AM

Lack of updates I know...

So lets see... the plants turned about a month old yesterday... they finally got transplanted about 5 days ago(I know that hurt there growth).... they got a new home so heat is not to much of an issue now... I ended up trimming off all the dead leafs... i started feeding... I dont have axx to any real good nutes like fox farm and what not so since its my first grow I just started with something easy.. some mg 24-8-16 mixed with 1/8 tsp per 1 gallon of water and watering about every 2-3 days or when they look a little droopy ill post some pics later today

systrex

12-07-2007, 06:40 AM

small update.. should be on about day 30 something now... things have been rough

systrex

12-08-2007, 08:52 PM

Well after a good overlook of all the plants it looks like they are all showing pre flowers... and its looks good 3 females and 1 male.... Ill post some pics just to make sure what im seeing is right... but big diff between hairs and balls right.. :)... as I found out neither my phone, my digital camera, or my video camera take very good close up still pics.. but here is the best pic of the "male" plant that I could get.. female pic to follow

systrex

12-24-2007, 08:43 AM

Small update.. well we are somewhere around and month and 3 weeks of veg.... here is just a pic for now

rnichilo

12-24-2007, 09:06 AM

nice, cant wait to see sum budz :rastasmoke:

OrangeWidow

12-24-2007, 10:35 AM

Rastaman Vibrations

12-24-2007, 04:10 PM

Very sweet grow. Nice, neat and controlled. Keep up the good work.

systrex

12-25-2007, 12:34 AM

I really like this grow a lot.

Nice set up!
Do you have good drainage holes in the bottom?

Why did you remove that bottom shelf that the buckets were sitting on?.... that was a perfect idea to keep those temps down.

Looks like plants 1,2and 4
Are super healthy but the 3rd one might be struggling.... which one do you think is male???

Also I was going t recommend that you switch to 18/6 and chop the male.

Nice gro bro

all the buckets(trash cans) have good drainage.. I drill at least 6-10 pea sized holes so thats fine...

I removed the shelf cause there was not enough room for the plants so I removed the shelf then lowered the lights that way they had more head room..

I already chopped up the male so I just have 3 females now..

out of the 3 females 1 is def smaller than the others probably by about 2-3" I think its just cause that way I had transplanted a little later then the others.... anyway Ill post some more pics in a few days... I probably wont start flowering for at least another month or 2... mainly cause I wanna get a new light(hps) first and play around with making some clones(which will be new to me)

OrangeWidow

12-27-2007, 07:36 AM

Yay can't wait to see some updates.

I like this grow a lot like I said...
I'm probably gunna shot for the same type of one.

I saw some 65w hps bulbs.... could I use these in normal sockets and make my own refectors.. I'm not sure the lumen output but I'm sure that I could get awya with 4-7 bulbs and do a full grow.....

systrex

12-28-2007, 06:33 AM

thanks

hps lights use mogul sockets so you cant use a normal socket...

Im sure you could make your own reflector

Yay can't wait to see some updates.

I like this grow a lot like I said...
I'm probably gunna shot for the same type of one.

I saw some 65w hps bulbs.... could I use these in normal sockets and make my own refectors.. I'm not sure the lumen output but I'm sure that I could get awya with 4-7 bulbs and do a full grow.....

systrex

12-28-2007, 11:00 AM

well not much of an update just thought I would post some pics and had a question...

systrex

12-28-2007, 11:12 AM

Guess I waited to long to edit my post.. anyway heres what I was going to post....

I have noticed on some of the tips of my leafs there are little yellow spots, its pretty random and not in any particular order that I can see..

Pic 1: You can see of the tips yellowing.

Pic 2: This one is the worst, none of the other leafs are nearly this bad..

Pic 3: An attempted close up of a leaf tip..

Pic 4: Just an overall shot...

systrex

12-29-2007, 02:25 AM

Well today I finally found a good shop around me that had tons an tons of stuff I needed and was pretty close to my house.. first I got some new ferts... trio pack of fox farms nutes....

annnnd a 600watt hps light... ill go into some more details later with pics but what I can say right off is heat is gonna be a hole new issue with this new light... raised the temps almost 19 degrees in less than 15-20 mins

SmokeStack2

12-29-2007, 02:40 AM

The tips are pretty normal. Probably not a big issue. If they get worse an if there not a branch and just a single Finger you can just cut them. We know they need there fan leaves but not always. gives inner growth more light also. Good luck with the new light, im sure you will find a way to keep those temps normal.
Your Plants look good and lush.

What kinda Nutrients did you pick up?

systrex

12-29-2007, 03:14 AM

What kinda Nutrients did you pick up?

Liquid Nutrient Trio Soil Formulaâ??Big BloomÂ®, Grow BigÂ® and Tiger BloomÂ®

SmokeStack2

12-31-2007, 12:49 AM

I gotta say your doing real good for a 1st Grow.

Jerry Garcia 2007

12-31-2007, 01:44 AM

Very nice grow you have going, and very good nutes you are going to be using use them myself

systrex

12-31-2007, 02:18 AM

here a pic about 2 days old right when I got the new light

SmokeStack2

12-31-2007, 02:49 AM

There going to love that light, are you keeping the cfl's running also?

systrex

12-31-2007, 08:38 AM

Right now no... I only have like 2 that are pointed under the plants to provide some light for the undergrowth.... with the current area they are in im not gonna be able to control the heat so I have decided im gonna move them to a larger area where there will be more space for some more plants.. plus in the new area I will have a place to vent the heat from the light, better able to control light leaks for 12/12, add more lights(when I get more money), and actually be able to walk around in the grow space..

anyway some specs on what I got..

light bulb - 600 watt eye hortlux super hps light
Ballast - future brite electric 120v hps ballast
Reflector - Sunleaves ArcticSun Reflector

systrex

01-02-2008, 02:40 AM

Well im in the process of getting there new grow area ready.. in the meantime Im gonna be taking some clones(need more plants since I will have so much more space). I bought some calmag since I have been using distilled water. besides that not a lot of news... heres a pic

deaner

01-02-2008, 06:40 AM

I think you are gonna have a lot of bud there. Looks great, first grow and a very nice grow going. Love how you took a thing that had to go and turned it into something so cool. There are a millon of those old tvs out there too bad they arent all being used like yours!

systrex

01-03-2008, 07:31 AM

Well today I went and bought a humidifier since the humidity in my grow area was about 14-16% so hopefully I can get those levels back up to around 35-40... the leafs on the plants seemed to be really dry and some were even start to get crispy(thankfully only a couple)...

I also started a few more clones hopefully these come out better then my last attempt(cloning is new to me) first attempt I didnt have any of the right tools(tray, dome, cloning gel(had some powder)) anyway ill keep you updated on those...

I think thats about it for now..Ill post some pics tomorrow...

also, I should have all the plants in there new home within a few days.. soo more room, less heat, ect ect

systrex

01-04-2008, 05:49 PM

New pic... they are finally in the new room which I still have a lot to do... paint the walls, get another light, clean things up a bit, and setup the vent for my hood.... new update when everything is cleaned up..

cwesto

01-05-2008, 12:11 AM

Looks like a nice sized room u got thur, i bet u could get a pretty nice yeild if u fill that sucker to the brim.... MUAHAHAHAHA, sorry my greedy and sinister side just came out for a minute. lol

Also from what i can tell that plant looks relatively untrained, and for that matter very bushy... looks good, keep it up systrex:thumbsup:

systrex

01-06-2008, 08:04 AM

ok a couple pics.... and a question.. I have started to see a few very small crystal like balls forming on the stems of the plants, is that normal.. I was just wondering since im not in flowering or anything yet... Thanks

PdoubleOTY

01-06-2008, 08:22 PM

you plan to flower those anytime soon??? much more veg and they wont fit! you gotta remember plants stretch, sometimes double or even triple in height when you flower them...i would start looking to swtich to 12 12 soon

tokr2153

01-06-2008, 10:28 PM

looks real good man and i do agree with pdouble u want to start 12/12 soon b 4 they get to big

systrex

01-06-2008, 10:33 PM

I wanna flower soon but I wanna give my clones a couple weeks of veg, test my bubbles setup and prepare my ventilation 4 the smell first. So I will probably flower in a month annnnnd gotta transplant 2 of them before I can even think about flowering

SmokeStack2

01-08-2008, 07:50 AM

Your going to have some Giants there, Sure it's ok to maintain Veg. Plants look thick btw.

systrex

01-08-2008, 06:30 PM

Your going to have some Giants there, Sure it's ok to maintain Veg. Plants look thick btw.

For my 2 bigger plants I got 11 gallon pots(right now they are in 5 gallon pots), they seem root bound to , the roots are just pouring out of the drain holes, its got to the point that they have clogged all 12 drain holes...

as far as growing space height wise...

I have 9 feet of vertical grow space....

the pots are about a foot and half tall..

the plants are currently 2 and half feet tall

Im able to keep the light about a foot away with no signs of heat stress or anything(have plenty of air flow)

and my reflector is about a foot tall

so that leaves me with about 3 more feet of grow space...

by the time I start to flower they should be around 3 feet tall and if they double in size that will fine.....

I guess if they do get to tall before I start to flower I can always top em... We will see... Will Post some pics later tonight or tomorrow (also put together a bubbler system to test out)

systrex

01-09-2008, 09:29 AM

Some picture updates....

Picture 1 - had to do some pruning as the lower leafs were touching the soil

Picture 2 - Overall view

Picture 3 - Main stem on the biggest plant

Picture 4 Another aerial view

Picture 5 - My newest Project im playing around with

systrex

01-11-2008, 05:55 AM

well today was transplant day and what a pain in the ass it was... this was probably the first time I had ever really broken up the root so I really hope they dont go into any sort of shock or anything... I fed each plant with about 3 gallons of water with about 2 tablespoons of big bloom in each gallon..

Pictures

#1 - The big girl before the transplant

#2 - first plant and its roots

#3 -second plant and its roots

#4 - what in the hell is going on with these leafs

#5 - another pic, never even noticed them until I brought them into normal light...

CultureCherryPopper

01-11-2008, 06:59 AM

Just guessing, could be either Molybdenum or Nitrogen. If the red keeps spreading inward could be the former.

tokr2153

01-11-2008, 08:35 AM

damn man lookin good, keep it up can't wait to see some fat nugs on them girls

systrex

01-16-2008, 04:52 AM

well I really dont now what is going on now....

went in today to check on things and saw this...

systrex

01-16-2008, 08:36 AM

Well to top it off I think I have a pest problem sigh... I decided I was going to water them with just some plain ph balanced water and when doing so I noticed lil black dots on some of the leafs... though it was only on the bottom part of the plant so I could not tell if they were bugs or just dirt from watering/transplanting. anyway so as I continue watering I see a little white bug crawling in the soil... sooooo small it was about 1/10the the size of a piece of perlite... to be honest I didnt really do any further investigating as bugs freak me out BAD.. Im gonna do some searching around on the forums to see what I can find but if anyone has ideas as what these are please let me know

zlessley

01-16-2008, 09:52 PM

That's a nute/ph problem, not a bug problem. Spider mites (scary!) are very very small and white... I'd be freaked too, I hate the fuckers, I had to tear down a grow room just to get rid of them!!! unless the black dots are moving or fly around, I wouldn't worry about them. Definitely look at some miticide, BEFORE they start webbing.

systrex

01-18-2008, 10:45 PM

Well I ended up doing a flush of the soil and im feeding with a mix of 1tsp tiger bloom an 1tbl big bloom. did some pruning to get rid of all the dead leafs....

I also bought 2 foggers to hopefully get rid of any bugs.... Ill be switching from 24/0 to 16/8 soon...

some picture updates soon

cman20118ut

01-30-2008, 02:02 PM

I was just gonna congratulate you on this grow thus far....the girls look great regardless...can't wait to see the final outcome

trynagethigh

01-30-2008, 03:35 PM

damn systrex..im gone for a month and you have created monsters..LOL..good job bro:thumbsup::thumbsup:, im still working on my cabinet and have made a few changes. still have a few more to make. your plants look good man, keep up the good work and when i finally get my cab right and in our new location im gonna fire mine up. cant wait to see what kind of results you get. :jointsmile: