PLEASE HELP!! Probation/Testing Coming Up!

[RunningScared]

Hello Everyone,

I am directing this at FakeBoobsRule, as he seems to be the savant about testing, etc on this site (I've done alot of research before posting). But any and ALL responses, and advice is more than welcome and appreciated. Here is my case:

I'm 29 yrs old, 165 lbs, 5-10, about 19%BF, and up until 2 weeks ago, I used to smoke 2-3x daily for a couple years, but as of 2 weeks ago, I've quit completely, and forever, as I may have drug tests coming up in the future, for a possible PROBATION. When I was smoking over the past couple of years or so, it was mostly schwag, up until about 5 months ago, then mids till 2 weeks ago, and for the last two weeks, I've been 100% clean.

I used to lift regularly, but recently I've been neglecting it, and I have a decent metabolism. As of 3 days ago, I've been doing 3 miles cardio on the eliptical and 3 miles cardio on the bike (45-50 mins total), as well as abs, and light lifting. I also will be using caffeine to up my metabolism before each workout, as well as using creatine loading doses every day for some time.

First, and most importantly, what kind of time frame am I looking at to get the THC out of my system? I've read everything from 12-90 days. And w/ my history of smoking, I'm worried that it may be closer to 90 days. I may have to test in a couple weeks, but I'm not sure yet (pending on the results of a court case below).

I have no previous charges regarding drugs whatsoever (except an MIP for alcohol when I was like 20, and I'm 29 now). My pre-prelim conference is for Wednesday (5 days from now), and it's not for anything drug-related, but it is a felony charge. Will I be asked to test in court itself, if I get a probation? Or will I wait till I meet up with a probation officer to do that? I don't know if one has been assigned, but since there has been no decision on my case yet (in MICHIGAN), I'm guessing not.

I have ordered testing strips as well as specimen validity strips which test for Creatinine, Nitrites, Glutaraldehyde, Oxidants, pH, Specific Gravity.

Furthermore, I have already gotten a bottle of ROLAIDS (not Tums), Gallons of Gatorade, Aspirin, B-100 slow release B vitamins (I will crush them up and take to counteract the slow release....I've tried this a couple days ago, and my urine turned a nice yellow). I drink about a gallon of water normally, daily, so I my urine is usually clear, but the B-Vit-100 did turn it yellow. I plan on using N2's dilution method, but I've seen a few threads which suggest adding salt, and adding Rolaids to the mix.

If anyone can answer my questions, and give me any advice at all (especially FakeBoobsRule), I would MUCH appreciate it. I'm freaking out here, and if I do get a probation, I don't want to fuck myself over with the first test. Please help!!!

RS

[RunningScared]

ALSO.......forgot to ask this above, but in adding salt and Rolaids to the dilution mix, what is a good quantity/time schedule of doing that. N2's thread doesn't mention specifics about these. Please help! Thanks.

RS

[FakeBoobsRule]

I have seen a couple of people take near 90 days to pass a test. Although possible it is rare. It is not as rare though for people to take 30-60 days to get clean. With your body type and aerobic activities, you stand a good chance of passing after 30 days or less maybe. Anything is possible.

If this is your pre prelim it doesn't sound like a deal is going to be worked out on that day. If it is you may be subject to report to probation and test right away but that really isn't the norm. It seems most people who work out deals that go on probation have a few days before their first test once the deal is entered in court. Good to stop now though.

If you want to add salt to the sports drink I think most people recommend about 1 tablespoonful per quart. You may want to try a little less at first. For the Tums/Rolaids you can take about 4 every hour starting 2-3 hours before the test.

[sd6515]

When I was on probation I failed the first test in NY with a total bitch of a probation officer and it probably made her test me more often but at least in ny you don't get violated for failing the first because of the fact that it could and most likely is from before probation started.
And btw as a lifter and trainer myself I thought I should mention that creatine is not a good thing to take it has many negative effects that basically counteract the object of working out. Two major things it does is cause weight gain mainly in you stomach in the form of a gut and another is that its' actual claims to muscle gain/growth is actually caused from water weight almost like swelling of the muscle and does not translated into more power and vanishes quickly after creatine use is stop. Amino acids, NOS from vitamin world and test stack from there as well with a good shake like muscle milk is a much better combination for truly great gains in power and size while supplying the body with the right nutrients to prevent muscle damage.

[RunningScared]

Thank you SO MUCH for your always helpful responses, FBR. I am not touching the green ever again, so that won't be an issue for me. But I also wanted to ask you this, asides from the Rolaids (I'm guessing these are for pH and Ca concentrations) and salt advice you gave me, should I stick EXACTLY to N2's dilution schedule?

That is, starting at 12 hrs before w/ aspirins, and stopping them at 4 hrs? I've also read elsewhere that you want to take the aspirin until like an hour before. Can you please clarify this?

Also, won't the aspirin show up on the adulteration test as having knocked out the EMIT, or whatever? I'm worried about that, too, and is the reasons I've ordered the adulteration strips. Please let me know about this.

@ sd6515

I'm using the creatine mainly to make sure my system is holding enough creatine, thus trying to maintain high levels of creatinine metabolite. So this way, when I'm tested, it won't come up as dilute from checking the creatinine levels. I know this is only needed 3-4 days before the test, but I want to start now, and MAKE SURE i keep a high level constantly. Is this a bad idea? Please let me know. I'm not really trying to make muscle gains, but more fat loss right now to clear the thc metabolites from my fatty tissues.

Thank you both very much, and any further info is truly appreciated!

[sd6515]

It is good for creatinine levels for the test but depending on how your body reacts to elevated creatine levels it can be counter productive to weight loss

[dylan]

just buy a home drug test from wallgreens, or simmilar store, to test yourself. They are about the same tests they give for probation. I was in your shoes about 2 years ago. I am 6'1":170lbs:25yo, and I smoked ALOT for about 4-5 years before I quit. I tested clean in about 3 weeks with lots of running and drinking water.

[aries ormazd]

Go to your local smoke shop and bring about $40 and get yourself and bottle of "Instant Clear". Clears your system, free of THC :thumbsup: (Sorry if anyone already recomended this)

I dont know if they can tell that you drank somthing to make you clean, but I know that it worked when my parents were all anal back in the day. Or there are these things called "Wissonators" or somthing like that... Sorry if none of this is helpful. Good luck man!

[FakeBoobsRule]

Go to your local smoke shop and bring about $40 and get yourself and bottle of "Instant Clear". Clears your system, free of THC :thumbsup: (Sorry if anyone already recomended this)

I dont know if they can tell that you drank somthing to make you clean, but I know that it worked when my parents were all anal back in the day. Or there are these things called "Wissonators" or somthing like that... Sorry if none of this is helpful. Good luck man!

It's Whizzinator and those drinks are a rip off. They are hit or miss and most work by dilution, which you can do for $5-10 instead of $40. Good try but there is a lot more to drug testing than you probably realize.



Thank you SO MUCH for your always helpful responses, FBR. I am not touching the green ever again, so that won't be an issue for me. But I also wanted to ask you this, asides from the Rolaids (I'm guessing these are for pH and Ca concentrations) and salt advice you gave me, should I stick EXACTLY to N2's dilution schedule?

That is, starting at 12 hrs before w/ aspirins, and stopping them at 4 hrs? I've also read elsewhere that you want to take the aspirin until like an hour before. Can you please clarify this?

Also, won't the aspirin show up on the adulteration test as having knocked out the EMIT, or whatever? I'm worried about that, too, and is the reasons I've ordered the adulteration strips. Please let me know about this.

The rolaids/tums are to help with specific gravity. Aspirin will not show up as an adulterant. You are taking it by mouth not adding it to the piss, it isn't illegal, and they don't look for aspirin. If you are referring to S2's aspirin and dilution method, I think he recommends taking the aspirin at least 4 hours before the test no more than 12 and you can repeat again shortly before the test, like 1-2 hours before it. I don't think he means stop taking them at the 4 hour mark.

[RunningScared]

Ok, thanks for your responses guys, I'm gonna take a test either tonight (post-workout) or tomorrow morning w/ first void, and test it, and see how that goes.

Also, @FBR, do you suggest I do what S2 says, and take the aspirins up to an hour before, or what N2 says, and take them up UNTIL 4 hrs before?



Step 1. 4-12 hours before the test take 4 aspirin (not Tylenol or Advil). This step may be repeated every 4-6 hours up until 4 hours before the test.
Step 2. 3-4 hours before your test, start by drinking 2, 8oz. glasses of water. Water can be substituted for with Cranberry or fruit juice, teas or even soft drinks. Then drink another 8oz. every 15 minutes for the next hour for a total of 6 glasses of water (48oz).
Step 3. In about 1 - 2 hours (depending on your system) you should be voiding â??clearâ?? urine about every 15 - 20 minutes. Continue to drink 3-4 oz. more water to replace what you've voided every 20-30 minutes.
Step 4. 1-2 hours before the test, take vitamin B2 or B complex (about 10 times the daily recommended dosage). If the vitamins are time release, crush them before taking. You may also take vitamin B with each glass of water, 2 times the daily dosage, if you find it easier.


Also the other bold part above, I should substitute 2 quarts of gatorade with 2 tablespoons of salt, right? And drink that mixture every time it asks for water, correct? Thus, I'd be diluting, replacing, and everything with the gatorade-salt concoction? Sorry for all the questions, but all the differing info, and vagueness make it a bit difficult to figure out.

@Dylan, thanks for your post, it makes me feel a bit better to know someone has gone through this w/ my stats before.

Again, any and all help is much appreciated.

[FakeBoobsRule]

Also, @FBR, do you suggest I do what S2 says, and take the aspirins up to an hour before, or what N2 says, and take them up UNTIL 4 hrs before?



Also the other bold part above, I should substitute 2 quarts of gatorade with 2 tablespoons of salt, right? And drink that mixture every time it asks for water, correct? Thus, I'd be diluting, replacing, and everything with the gatorade-salt concoction? Sorry for all the questions, but all the differing info, and vagueness make it a bit difficult to figure out.

I think in N2Pot's sticky he starts off saying water or juice but a few posts later he suggests sports drinks. Yes, your concotion is correct. As far as the aspirin, use your best judgement. N2Pot says take a dose or your last dose 4 hours before the test. S2 suggests a dose a little closer to the drug test. Base it on your clean time, smoking history, your body's ability to tolerate the aspirin, home testing results, etc. Don't go overboard with the aspirin either.

[Rounder2k8]

Please let us know what the results of your home tests are, I am in the same boat as you but just havn't been smoking for as long and not as much..t would help relieve some of my nervousness..lol

[RunningScared]

Thx for advice again, guys. I'll be taking a home test in the morning w/ the first void, to see where I stand now (2 weeks clean exactly). I'll also test w/ the validity w/ the adulteration strips, to see what my "normal" should be. If I'm positive, I'll prolly dilute later in the day (w/ the aspirin stopping around 2 hrs before-->avg of the two posts) and see how that works out. Lemme know what you guys think.

Oh, I've also been eating as clean as possible (while studying and being in school, ugh), mostly turkey and cheese sandwiches on wheat bread, with some home-grilled steak pieces in a wheat pita, with tons of onions to up the taste. And I've been taking TONS of fiber, creatine, and protein, to keep the total fat down in my diet. I've decreased the lifting, but upped the cardio a bit.

It's good to know that the aspirin doesn't show up, also (heh, my creatinine should be mad high-->brown on the test strips). Man I'm still stressed as hell about all this. Wish me hella-luck.

ND

[RunningScared]

Ok, so I took a test w/ my first void of the day. I also ran a specimen validity test to get my baseline. I'm currently exactly 14 days clean, and have been doing cardio daily (as per my previous posts) for the past 4 days.

I failed the test (no line to a VERY faint line if you look CLOSELY). The specimen validity test showed that everything was in normal range and creatinine was high (over 100), so I figure that's good.

I'm going to try dilution today, and take another test later on tonight, and I'll post the results of that here as well. I'm gonna try by starting at the 8 hour mark, and take 4 aspirin every 3 hours until the 2 hr mark (12 total). Asides from that, I'm gonna follow N2's dilution sticky (w/ salted gatorade --> 2 tbl for 2 quarts). If anyone has any other suggestions ESPECIALLY about a schedule for the Rolaids, I'd really appreciate it (right now I figure I'll take 4 rolaids every hour for 4 hours up to the time I test myself).

[killerweed420]

You should stop cardio 3 or so days before the test.

[RunningScared]

Well, the problem is that I don't have any idea when I'll be tested. I have a court date on Wednesday (4 days) for a pre-prelim conference (for a non-drug-related issue), and I don't even know if a decision as to what I'll have to do will be reached then. If it is, I'm worried that I may have to piss that very day in court or whatever. Any ideas on this?

[RunningScared]

Well.......anyways, I tried diluting w/ Salt-Gatorade mixture (2 tablespoons of salt in 2 quarts of Gatorade), and it didn't make me piss at all....it mostly made me shit, and very liquid-y at that. And now I'm in pain from liquishitting so much. Anyways, I tested myself in the morning w/ first void, and again about 20 mins ago after the failed dilution method.

10/13/2007
1:53 PM (first void)
THC Test --> Positive (Barely faint to no line)
Creatinine: 100
Nitrite: Neg (L)
Gultaraldehyde: Neg.
pH: 4-7
S.G.: 1.015
Oxidant/PCC: Neg (L)

Then I tried the following dilution method:

2:30 PM --> 4 Aspirin
5:30 PM --> 4 Aspirin
7:00 PM --> 4 Rolaids, 16 oz. Gatorade-Salt liquid
7:15 PM --> 1 B-100 Vitamin Complex (time release-NOT CRUSHED), 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
7:30 PM --> 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
7:45 PM --> 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
8:00 PM --> 4 Rolaids, 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
8:15 PM --> At this point, I started shitting liquid like crazy. Went 2 times, but pissed minimally
8:30 PM --> 4 Aspirin, 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
8:35 Pm --> Had another liqui-shit session (minimal piss).
8:45 PM --> Got so fucking thirsty, and I felt kinda sick, so I broke down and drank 20-24 oz of regular water
9:00 PM --> 4 Rolaids, 4 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
9:05 PM --> Had ANOTEHR liqui-shit session (minimal piss again), but almost clear liquid shit (quite a bit).
9:30 PM --> 1/2 caffeine pill
10:00 PM --> 1 B-100 Vitamin Complex (time release-CRUSHED), 4 Rolaids, 4 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid, 16 oz Gatorade-Creatine-Fiber mix
11:00 PM --> TEST

Same EXACT results as this morning. Except the urine was yellow, and smelled like multivitamins.

And again, I'm pretty sure it's because all that liquid never made it to my kidneys/urine, but stayed in the intestine, and hence the painful diarrhea :(. Anyways, I would like any advice on how to fix this dilution method to make it work. I'm guessing the first thing would be to cut all the salt out, and just try it w/ Gatorade? Also, should I try out S2's 2 hour, 1 gallon dilution plan, but w/o the salt? Ugh.....I hope to god I can get this to work sooner than later.

Any and all advice, as usual, would be much appreciated.

[sd6515]

I don't know if it helps or not but I know I was told to take lots of goldenseal and stop like two days before so I did that but to this day I don't know if it did anything towards me passing for all I know I was being fucked with lol but I passed, with dilution and goldenseal I was only 135lbs and 6' back then. I'm sure FBR knows about the golden being useless at this point or that it doesn't work at all but in case it does I wanted to mention it I was told it help released THC from you fat cells or something but I hope FBR knows because I've always wondered and he really seems to know this shit.


sorry if it is worthless or doesn't make sense I am really high from resin hits right now, and I thought I was going to get stoned tonight:D :S5:

[killerweed420]

I've never understood the salt intake for weed.Salt is just going to make you retain more water and not piss as much. I would think just the opposite of what you want.On my little home experiment with test strips,I seem to be able to get clean a day sooner if I drink a lot of tea and cranberry juice.Thats if I smoke a couple nights in a row. I 'll usually smoke sunday and monday night and I'm clean by thursday.

[Imazir]

:thumbsup: Keep it simple and don't over do it since it might play against you even if you had never smoked before. Also, don't hurt yourself by taking to many of these C*** since your test is not tomorrow and you might not even have one.

The most accurate scientific study on THC metabolites elimination I've read states an average of 20 days to come out clean and that at cuts off far bellow the commercial tests and using the most sensitive assays (EMIT, GS, MS) with urine and blood samples from a statically significant group of individuals. The 90 days that I found on other sites are certainly special cases, not scientifically demonstrated and advertised, I believe, to scare you out for commercial purposes.

Based on your body and life profile you should be clean very soon. Exercising (swetting), 1 aspirin a day (good for your heart), 1 multivitamin/day, good eating (60% of the metabolites are eliminated through your feces) and drinking.

If you go for a urine test, that day piss a much as you can before the test because the metabolites are released slowly, therefore, if you clean up yourself just before chances are the middle stream of your piss will come clean. Delay the uptake of multivitamin, aspirin to about 1h00 before the test and a little creatin will not hurt you. Don't drink too much before the test for your urine not to come non diluted.

Finally, load yourself with confidence, show no fear if they ask for a drug test and don't over test yourself to early.

You'll be fine:thumbsup: if you don't hurt yourself.

[RunningScared]

Thank you for your kind words and words of encouragement, Imazir, I really appreciate it! I'll try to calm down a bit, and keep a cooler head. Do you have any suggestions for fixing up my dilution schedule a bit? I will retry it sometime today, but without the salt added. I just want to have something that will work in case I do have to test. Thanks alot again, man.

Any, and all advice is always appreciated :).

RS

[Imazir]

You said "I failed the test (no line to a VERY faint line if you look CLOSELY)".

The T line is supposed to be faint if you are negative, indeed. Therefore, I think that your are already clean.

For the dilution, you take too much of everything. You already drink 1 gallon of water on your regular schedule. Drink your gallon (Water, Gatorade) progressively and piss as many time as you can. About 1h00 before taking your home test, piss again go for 1 aspirin, 1 B2 complex (for the color) and your creatine.

You need to eat some good high calorie food that you eat at a regular schedull (Breakfast, lunch, dinner). Get yourself some good steaks, eggs potatoes etc... season with extra virgin olive oil, enjoy yourself and shit solid at least once a day.

No magic trick just some good sens. Don't take that many aspirin and other stuff

[Imazir]

No magic trick just some good sens. Don't take that many aspirin and other stuff cause these can hurt you.

You are :thumbsup:

[Imazir]

I think the salt excess just help to raise the urine density to a normal range as it goes through your urine when you have to much of it into your system.

[sd6515]

You definately want to eat high calorie food like Imazir said and not exercise because the the stuff that makes you test positive is stored mainly in your fat so you dont want to be burning fat for atleast a day before the test and as long as your not burning alot of fat you sound like you should be good

[Imazir]

Good point sd6515,

You don't want to burn fat soon before testing...

I think I'm gone a get some good New York steaks and go for a barbecue because this make hungree.

Beside, I think I have an idea for the ultimate urine THC pass test. The solution is in the tests them self but there is some pitfall I havn't been able to figured out yet. In addition, it's all thinking not experimented yet... and it's got a be available for all without having some smart as s using it to make profit...

Let me know if you're interested to share my though, although it might be a good subject of an other forum...

[RunningScared]

YES def post your idea for all to see and discuss. Other than that, thank you very much for your advice. I'm not sure even still when I'll be tested, but I want to get as much fat and THC out of me as possible, so I'm still eating lowfat (mostly turkey sandwiches with cheese and onions). Once I know 100% sure when I have to test, I'll start packing on the fat. I HOPE I get some advance warning, but who knows, because this is for the courts. Also, the line I saw might have been my imagination WANTING me to see something, but it was a positive test, still, i.e. you couldn't see a line at first glance on the test.

Tonight, I'm gonna do cardio, but then do a dilution after, and test it later tonight, just to see where I stand (w/ the shit burning through my system still). If I start to see a REAL line, I'll do a happy dance. We'll see though.

Imazir, and SD, and FBR, please still give me any more advice that you guys have. You've been awesome! I also am wondering what I should do for my court date this Wednesday....prepare like I'm gonna test, or what?

Thanks!

RS

[Imazir]

Hey Running Scared what's going on ?

Have yu been able to put your self together? Just checking....

Just hoping yu gonna running good- give us some news ;)

[sd6515]

Yeah we're all hoping for that solid line for you

[RunningScared]

Ok guys, here's an update.

I was pissed as hell from the previously failed dilution, so I tried diluting w/ JUST water to see if I could at least get a line. I started diluting about 4 hours after my 3 + 4 mile workout, and on the same lowfat diet. Well, I basically drank GALLON and a HALF of water over 2.5 hours. I tried to space it out as evenly as possible. I took 4 aspirin (for pain, mostly....strained muscle), and a 4 Rolaids over the same course of time. At about 1.5 hours out, I took a crushed B-100 multivitamin, and had half a turkey-cheese-onion sandwich. Then at about 30 mins out, I took a half of one B-100 multivitamin, not crushed. I pissed a few times, until my piss turned some manner of yellow (slight, but yellow still), and ran the test. Welllllll, I finally got a LINE. Given, it was about half as dark as the control line, but it's a line nonetheless. So at least I know I can dilute the levels down in my urine.

Now for the bad news (I'm sure you all know what it is). I ran a specimen validity test, and sure enough, ALL the fields were normal/legit, EXCEPT creatinine & specific gravity. Creatinine color was CLOSE to 20, but could have been between 10 and 20. Specific gravity was low, at a color between 1.000 and 1.003.

So basically, I think it failed the validity test. I figure I'll try again tomorrow with only a gallon of gatorade over 2 hours and several Rolaids, to see if that can raise my spec. gravity. As for the creatinine, I'll up my daily dose back to loading dose, and hopefully that corrects that problem.

Also, I figure I'll keep up the same cardio and diet, and then go sloth lazy and eat fatty ass foods starting 3 days before my actual test. Hopefully the combination of all this will allow me to pass a probation test! I woulda been happier if I at least had a darker line on the test, or come closer to passing my specimen validity test (asides from the color).

Anyways, please share any thoughts, concerns, or advice on how to improve this damn dilution thing. I always appreciate the input!

RS

[killerweed420]

"Also, I figure I'll keep up the same cardio and diet, and then go sloth lazy and eat fatty ass foods starting 3 days before my actual test. Hopefully the combination of all this will allow me to pass a probation test! I woulda been happier if I at least had a darker line on the test, or come closer to passing my specimen validity test (asides from the color)."

This will help a lot and at the same time cut back on fluid intake till the morning of the test so you don't get a negative dillute.

[Imazir]

Hey running scared,

I am happy to see that you're getting yourself under control.

At the time yu're gonna a get yu're u test (if yu get it) yu'll should not be worried about your THC test but the real matter of your probation, which is not my business...

The density, by definition, is a function of the mass versus the volume (weigh per volume unit). Yu can fix that by adding a liitle (very little) of salt in a define volume of pee to reach the normal range.

Yu can see the T band, therefore, yu're clean. Don't get yu're sample too diluted cause remember THC is only one drug out of a minimum of 5.... If yu come up diluted, they may suspect yu for any of them and yu're worry about the less devastating one (THC), indeed.

keep us in touch and don't eat just fat food, please get yourself some real good food ( NY steak and more) and tell us (me) that you enjoyed yourself ... I am kind of good shape man but I eat good and it is always what makes my day...

Be well...:thumbsup:

[Imazir]

One more thing,

The intensity of the band is not a criteria, the THC band wioll get always lighter than the C band and often faint even will a sample coming from a dude who had never smoked in his/her life.

Don't ask me why, otherwise I'm gonna get too technical....

[RunningScared]

Technical is great. I'm actually pretty well-versed in science and medicine. But you can't really take a course on "Systemic THC Removal" :). I read the strips package insert, and understand that they use a goat antibody to run the control. Go ahead and post a more detailed explanation if you want.

And don't worry, I'm very worried about my actual case itself, but also I don't want to fuck up any deal w/ testing positive on a fucking piss test ya know. My first date in court is in about 10 hours, so I'm obviously getting nervous. I don't think I'll be tested at all tomorrow, but I could be on my next date (Monday), but as of yet, no decision has been reached. I'll update you guys on my case tomorrow evening, and I'm praying that I survive. BTW, if I suddenly disappear from the board, that most likely means something bad has happened :(.

Also, I've heard a few things about testing on sentencing day. Is this a normal thing? Or is that only for drug offenses?

Anyways, I'm still hitting the cardio, and I'm coming up on 19 days clean (cardio has been for 7 of those days). I've actually dropped from 20% BF to about 15.5%, so my diet/cardio is definitively helping in that field. I'm running another dilution as we speak, and I'll post it and the results after I've completed. Thank you EVERYONE who has contributed to this thread and to this board in general. You guys rock!

RS

[RunningScared]

Oh.......also, anyone have any ideas about using Cialis? From what I've read this increases blood flow to many parts of the body, primarily by dilating arteries. This would include the renal arteries, thus leading to a greater Glomerular Filtration Rate, hencing filtering more shit out, right? I also read that flank pain is a common side effect of using Cialis, and that would make sense as kidney pain presents in the flank, and the kidneys are being forced to take on a greater workload. Any ideas/thoughts on this would be appreciated.

RS

[Imazir]

Technical yea, but it's kind of boring... I can talk about it if we meet some day... goat antibodies are not just for C but also for T. The C is just what does'nt bind to T making sure that the reagent works properly. If yu have to much THC, antibodies can not bind THC on T. It's called a competitive chromatography assay. I'm sure yu get the trick

yu can find everything yu need by using the proper key words on goegle.

I think it's better to come up THC + and all other - and say, well I smoke 11 weeks ago when I was drunk at some party than been diluted.

In your case, yu have no need to be worried about that...

Just get yourself relax and , again eat some good food (sorry to repeat myself it's my only addiction, real good healthy food, I'm not
gonna explain what I cooked tonight it would take too long). By the way, i don't smoke I just get pissed off when my employer ask me for a pee test for a very good promotion (real good) after he got a lot of $ out of what i've done for their big company. I said nothing but i posted my resume on 30 jobs and got 5 other job offers before i went to the pee test and i was ready to tell them to fuck off. I didn't, I gave my pee feeling like insulted, not pride of myself, got the big promo... Ironically, i need to hire a few but they need pass the u test. What are they going to ask next? Give my ass?????? Well, I've just opened a little boutique 2 years ago... I might give up my big pay check... get myself freedom and maybe get some pot for me and my employees....

Cyialis, don't use it might hurt you.

[RunningScared]

Here is the dilution:

12:15 --> 9 oz. gatorade, 2 rolaids, 1 B-100 Vit (Uncrushed)
12:30 --> 9 oz. gatorade, 2 rolaids
12:45 --> 9 oz. gatorade
1:00 --> 9 oz. gatorade
1:15 --> 9 oz. gatorade, 2 rolaids
1:30 --> 9 oz. gatorade, 2 rolaids
1:45 --> 9 oz. gatorade, 2 rolaids
1:55 --> 9 oz. gatorade, Half B-100 Vit (Uncrushed)
2:05 --> 9 oz. gatorade, 2 rolaids
2:15 --> 9 oz. gatorade, 2 rolaids
2:25 --> 6 oz. gatorade, 2 rolaids
2:45 --> TEST

WELL the test came up Negative, w/ a slightly darker line than before.

I also BARELY passed the specific gravity of the validity test with (1.003-1.005 color range). However, I still failed the creatinine portion of the validity test (10-20 color range). I think I'll do 20g creatine daily now, and then maybe add it in twice during the dilution, too, AND I'll do the 96 oz. dilution over 3 hours instead of 2. You guys think I should decrease the amount of gatorade? To like 64 oz? Let me know what you guys think.

[Imazir]

Hey Running scared, I am still there...

Yu drinz 9oz of gatorade evry 15min (I am quite impress how yu monitor youself).

Cut it 1/2, every 30 min instead and don't drink 1h00 before the u test.

yu're getting there man.

Red meet contain a lot of creatinin, put that in yure diet.

talk to yu later:thumbsup:

[RunningScared]

Hey Guys,

I just ran a test w/ my first void (although in the late afternoon--my schedule is off). Does it matter when the things are run? I mean as long as it's the first void after I wake up, that's all that matters, right? Anyways, I got a VERY faint line w/ the morning's first void. So that's a plus. Also, the specimen validity came up negative on all tests.

I'm going to try again like tomorrow, or sometime on the weekend. I'm still running and taking niacin just before my workouts (and after), so that I get my sweat on hardcore. I'm gonna keep this up as long as possible, until hopefully one day I get a darker line on the first morning void.

Hopefully I'll be able to eat fatty ass crap foods again, soon!

RS

[Imazir]

Congrat man,

Your are clean now, no need to be worried. In addition, if yu have to take a test don't dilute too much...

Best to yu:thumbsup:

[RunningScared]

Hey man.....you sure it's clean? I mean there was a line, but it was FAINT. I guess I'll try again tomorrow w/ my first void of the day again.

Also, can anyone answer my question about whether it matters what time you wake up, as long as it's your first void after waking up?

RS

[sd6515]

It's just the first void of the day regardless of time bc the first void is ussually much more concentrated in general which makes it more likely to give you a positive bc it's basically the opposite of dilution. If you are getting a faint line on your first void try a test on like the 3rd without dilution and see I bet it will be a very solid line

[killerweed420]

The lines still tend to be faint for thc negetive. The control line is usually real dark.

[RunningScared]

I just tested again this morning (w/ first void), and got almost no line at all :( (I think I may have touched the piss to the plastic part of the test, though). Then, waited a couple hours, and retested on my third piss of the day (I piss quite a bit each time), and that one came up w/ a faint line.....about equal to the faint line I got w/ my first void yesterday. All the validity tests came up fine, on all the tests, however.

Does it matter what temp the urine is when I test it? I think one of the tests says it has to be at room temperature before it's tested. Does anyone have any information on this? Also, I'm using the same cup to test each time, and washing it w/ HOT water and antibacterial soap each time. Is this sufficient? If anyone can answer these questions, I'd really appreciate it. I'm getting a little annoyed at the variance of the tests. Thanks, guys.

RS

[killerweed420]

I just tested again this morning (w/ first void), and got almost no line at all :( (I think I may have touched the piss to the plastic part of the test, though). Then, waited a couple hours, and retested on my third piss of the day (I piss quite a bit each time), and that one came up w/ a faint line.....about equal to the faint line I got w/ my first void yesterday. All the validity tests came up fine, on all the tests, however.

Does it matter what temp the urine is when I test it? I think one of the tests says it has to be at room temperature before it's tested. Does anyone have any information on this? Also, I'm using the same cup to test each time, and washing it w/ HOT water and antibacterial soap each time. Is this sufficient? If anyone can answer these questions, I'd really appreciate it. I'm getting a little annoyed at the variance of the tests. Thanks, guys.

RS

I never worry about the temp in my home test.I just piss in the same cup and stick the strip in for 10 to 15 seconds. After I'm done I just rinse the cup out good.You are going to test more positive on the first test of the day because the thc has been released while you've been sleeping and built up in your intestines. Thats why you never want to take a UA at work with the first piss of the day.

[headieherbs]

this is a great, informative thread, I had to give it a bump....

also, did this dude pass? anybody know? where'd he go?