View Full Version : When did weed become a part of hip-hop?
smokeydabear
10-09-2007, 07:47 AM
Can any one pin point for me the first rapper to say he or she smoked weed? Or even bring it up at all in a rap song?
Music is a big part of my life. Mostly hip-hop. But now that Im getting a little older and my kids are getting into music. It makes me wonder when did become so bad to say Im a gangsta rapper but I dont smoke. Jay Z is the only one I can think of that stresses the fact that he dont smoke.
Yall know any more?
Jus a thought that ran real fast across my mind.:stoned:
But I still what to know can anybody say who was the first MC to put a lyric on wax.:rastasmoke:
doomie62
10-09-2007, 02:52 PM
to me i think snoop-dogg started it or maybe wu-tang or cypress hill???
Ganja G0d
10-11-2007, 11:26 AM
Tupac, Biggie, and Bone Thugs were some originals that started up the "smoke weed" raps. And I'd have to say that those people might have possibly been influenced by people like Bob Marley. I'd have to say there's no way to pin point it, because many people are influenced by many other people over interlaced periods of time.
thcbongman
10-11-2007, 11:34 AM
If I had to bet money on it, it would be Cypress Hill.
Struck420
10-11-2007, 11:39 AM
all this time i thought all rappers smoked weed, i can rap so much better when im high and i hate rap lol
OLDE ENGLISH '800
10-11-2007, 08:51 PM
krs-1,beastie boys their are plenty of ppl b4 them that rapped about weed its not only rap and hip-hop that talk about green every genre does it too.
4gan2ja0
10-11-2007, 10:11 PM
weeds been a major influence of all music throughout the years. from back when jazz players were huge.
as for pinpointing it in hip hop, id say thats pretty tough. like i said before, weeds always been a major part of music, and it was deffinately referred to in many songs before hip hop was even a genre.
Gothen
10-12-2007, 01:17 AM
weeds been a major influence of all music throughout the years. from back when jazz players were huge.
as for pinpointing it in hip hop, id say thats pretty tough. like i said before, weeds always been a major part of music, and it was deffinately referred to in many songs before hip hop was even a genre.
Bingo, some documentaries (both about drugs and not) say that mostly the influence of weed in the African American music culture started all the way back in the early 1910's and 1920's with the Harlem Renaissance.
A lot of musicians started smoking muggles, or joints, and since then...well...it just seems like weed has been an integral part of the arts, whether musical or what have you.
UTD Toker
10-12-2007, 01:43 AM
When black people started smoking weed = forever. Lol no really I thing its Snoop Dodoubleg.
13Lack
10-12-2007, 08:07 PM
Wow dude, Jay-Z not smoke?....you clearly haven't been listening to his lyrics close enough.
"And we just chilling watchin chandelier celings, high as fuck, old lady don't blow my high especially if you don't blow my la" - Diamond is Forever
"I tried to smoke weed to give me the fix I need like the game did to my pulse, with no results" - Allure
"Need a light, smoke that la la la" - La, La, La
I can go on, but Jay-Z definitely smoked/s...sorry I'm a hip hop head just had to say something, as for your answer, I'm going to have to have to point the finger at early 90's west coast hip hop. That was when Dre released "The Chronic" (classic album). However rappers before hand may have alluded to it, but I can't recall any direct quotes.
Hope that helps.
RaoulDuke45
10-12-2007, 09:01 PM
dr dre once rhymed "I dont smoke weed or cess, cause its known to give a brother brain damage, and brain damage on the mic dont manage"
OLDE ENGLISH '800
10-12-2007, 09:07 PM
dr dre once rhymed "I dont smoke weed or cess, cause its known to give a brother brain damage, and brain damage on the mic dont manage"
that was when he was in nwa b4 he met snoop
RaoulDuke45
10-12-2007, 09:50 PM
that was when he was in nwa b4 he met snoop
the other guys in nwa were smoking weed, i just find it funny how dr dre uttered those words around '88 and then 3-4 years later he comes out with the chronic, where every song has mentions weed a bunch if not the main focus of the song. but really thats how we all probly started out putting weed down until we tried it, ironic how weed will still lift you up when you put it down:stoned::rastasmoke:
OLDE ENGLISH '800
10-12-2007, 09:56 PM
yeah i thought it was a little weird:wtf:
When black people started smoking weed = forever. Lol no really I thing its Snoop Dodoubleg.
I can tell you one thing, it was not Snoop Dogg. He was definitely not the first to rap about weed.
But that guy up there is right. Cannabis has had an influence in just about every genre, probably all of them. Jazz is one of the most well-known for it, and Jazz was a huge influence. Rap/Hip-Hop has jazz influence in it, just as most of all of our modern genres do. Yes, even heavy metal (as classic rock was influenced by it, and heavy metal 'evolved' (devolved?) out of classic rock).
Gandalf_The_Grey
10-12-2007, 10:48 PM
Seems it's firmly entrenched in the metal world now too. Every metal concert these days is a cloud of smoke. When I went to Ozzfest it was bongs and pipes everywhere and stoners at every turn.
We've got the rap, we've got the metal, the stoner swarm is coming!:jointsmile:
thecreator
10-12-2007, 10:56 PM
Shit came from P Funk man and Bootsy Collins and the escapades of R&B bad boys like Jmes Brown and Rick James ( I kno I kno two different eras but they were I conic so Blah). Curtis Blow started it back in 1979 and P Funk in 73. Look up George Clinton and Bootsy Collins
If you like Snoop Dogg you'll love them dre, easy, Ice cube took samples from most of their songs. Even 2PAC it was west coast funk baby "Pop lockin' it west coast style"
George Clinton (funk musician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clinton_%28funk_musician%29)
Bootsy Collins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootsy_Collins)
thedutchmaster617
10-13-2007, 12:29 AM
Probably some bum in the 80's. But the first good weed songs came from Cypress Hill in 91, Redman in 92, Bone Thugs in 93, Three 6 Mafia, Snoop, Dre ect..
Nation_1ne
10-13-2007, 01:13 PM
Shit came from P Funk man and Bootsy Collins and the escapades of R&B bad boys like Jmes Brown and Rick James ( I kno I kno two different eras but they were I conic so Blah). Curtis Blow started it back in 1979 and P Funk in 73. Look up George Clinton and Bootsy Collins
If you like Snoop Dogg you'll love them dre, easy, Ice cube took samples from most of their songs. Even 2PAC it was west coast funk baby "Pop lockin' it west coast style"
George Clinton (funk musician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clinton_%28funk_musician%29)
Bootsy Collins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootsy_Collins)
Kurtis Blow, what a legend. "Clap your hands everybody If you got what it takes 'Cause I'm Kurtis Blow and I want you to know That these are the breaks". I think you're right to be honest, I noticed Snoop has actually taken a lot of old school stuff and used it himself. Like Sugar Hill gang and the double dutch bus.
nwa mentioned weed, but they could actually write other things so it wasnt mentioned on a constant every song basislike most rap today. im sure it was mentioned before that it has been mentioned in blues music way before bob marley and probably even before that.
4osiris
10-16-2007, 08:16 PM
Art and Herb will always be abstract in the form of creativity. It(marijuana) can never be subjected to a certain vibratory resonance per say, Hip Hop. That's what makes MJ such an icon to pair up with. It's alluring. Green is the Universal Genome! A true Godsend.
LOVE.LIGHT.Peace!
el_fantistico
10-16-2007, 08:50 PM
Melle Mel and Grandmaster Flash (minus the Furious Five) were rappin' about coke in "White Lines", I think there may even be a pot reference in that sone as well... release date: Feb 1983. I know that's not weed, but it's something.
i think you'd most likely find it's roots coming out of R&B...
El Fantistico :smokin:
FREETHEGREEN
10-16-2007, 11:15 PM
SNOOP wasnt the first but he was the first to talk about the chronic and publicize it .how many of u rember Total devestation they were huge weed rappers. cypress hill right up there also
RaoulDuke45
10-17-2007, 04:33 AM
Shit came from P Funk man and Bootsy Collins and the escapades of R&B bad boys like Jmes Brown and Rick James ( I kno I kno two different eras but they were I conic so Blah). Curtis Blow started it back in 1979 and P Funk in 73. Look up George Clinton and Bootsy Collins
If you like Snoop Dogg you'll love them dre, easy, Ice cube took samples from most of their songs. Even 2PAC it was west coast funk baby "Pop lockin' it west coast style"
George Clinton (funk musician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clinton_%28funk_musician%29)
Bootsy Collins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootsy_Collins)
bootsy collins had a son who calls him self rbx, who was featured on the chronic
Gyakuzuki
10-19-2007, 04:18 AM
Dr. Dre's "The Chronic"
Plain & Simple
thedutchmaster617
10-26-2007, 07:56 PM
"Cypress Hill" came out about a year before "The Chronic"
trynagethigh
10-26-2007, 09:00 PM
I would have to say it was going on way back to the days of the SugarHill Gang back in the 70's
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