Believing in heaven would be an epic bummer

[NextLineIsMine]

Almost everyday and especially when I toke sometimes I marvel at the fact humans developed imagination and the benevolent force that is existence. Its so mysterious and so intangible that god and heaven would be the worst anti-climax I could think of.

If I died and the answer to everything was as boring as god made us I would shoot myself but I couldn't, because im stuck in plain old heaven. Then Id be stuck with an unbecoming bullet hole in my head for eternity.

[beachguy in thongs]

It's better than being stuck with your arms, and, legs chopped off.

[notransfer]

-id like to think you get a new life with no memory of your previous one(reincarnation)
-or you dream about everything in your life in death
-or maybe like 'six feet under' show said endless sleep forever and ever
heaven and hell are somewhat bogus ideas but the concepts of morality, good and evil to degrees are reputable, i think

[Storm Crow]

Earth is the insane asylum for souls. We get too bored, flip out, and jump into a body! Then we have a little excitement, die, and the cycle starts all over again! LOL- Granny

[ukmonkey]

also if we believed in heavean we would have to live good god fearing lives.
fuck that for a laugh!

[Psycho4Bud]

I used to have the same attitude when I was a child. I recall telling my dad that I wanted to go to hell because that is where the party was at. His reply was "Ya know what hell is? That's where the tops of the bottles and the bottoms of the girls are all corked up".

Seems that heaven would be the better place to party.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Chronisseur]

"Ya know what hell is? That's where the tops of the bottles and the bottoms of the girls are all corked up".

LOL! Words of wisdom right there my friend!:D

[BBoyShotty]

hahaah your dads awesome

[Reefer Rogue]

If you don't want and choose to go, then you won't. That being said, let us live in a community of cohesion and peace.

[nurse maryjane]

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing us he doesn't exist."

My Granny used to say that all the time....she also told me that God comes to us in the form that we can best accept him. It might be Jesus for me, and Allah for someone else. In the end we won't find out 'till we get there. Anybody ever see the movie "Defending Your Life"? I think heaven is a little something like that....

[king of the world]

if you dont want to go to heaven then there is an alternate route.......

[couch-potato]

Heaven is for those who are afraid of death.

[geonagual]

It will be just like before you were born....nothing..

[beachguy in thongs]

Heaven is for those who are afraid of death.

Heaven is a possibility, and, all possibilities have to be named. Being reincarnated could be Heaven, to some, while rotting could be others. You're not born afraid of death.

[hero3279]

Imagine smoking a joint with God. In heaven, everyone will have 2 spliffs each, there will be weed smoke everywhere, it will be the shit!

[beachguy in thongs]

I better not have time to smoke weed, in Heaven!

[420MissHighTimes420]

i have too always belived that heaven was just an idea to help comfort people about death. its nice to think that there is this amazing place we go to forever.

i belive that we hang around for alittle after we die. after my gmom passed i literally felt her energy around me. but then i think wen we are ready we pass on. and become reincarnated (sp????) or something im not sure. a good friend of mine lost a sister and they say that they knwo shes still aroundi n the house and stuff.

but who nos what happens. its so bizarr. hopefulyl iwont find out for a while!

[Psycho4Bud]

Imagine smoking a joint with God. In heaven, everyone will have 2 spliffs each, there will be weed smoke everywhere, it will be the shit!

Ya just never know.............:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nEbM0H7sVI

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[snicklefritz1825]

Ya just never know.............:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nEbM0H7sVI

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

EXACTLY!!!! That is how God feels. Though Jesus prefered the hookah.:hippy::jointsmile:

[NextLineIsMine]

Imagine smoking a joint with God. In heaven, everyone will have 2 spliffs each, there will be weed smoke everywhere, it will be the shit!


I wish everyone had as positive an attitude as you

[EbelEyes]

I would much rather go to Hell then ever go to Heaven.

[trainwreck530]

woah bro...no, slow ur flow




...too much sativa?:D

DONNY

[EbelEyes]

woah bro...no, slow ur flow




...too much sativa?:D

DONNY

Is this comment directed towards me?

[OLDE ENGLISH '800]

not relative at all but funny
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lxgRJIcX7OQ

[Dahhveed]

Wow... I'm new... This is a freaky thread... "You're not born afraid of death"... you're also not born potty trained, I guess ;)

I strongly support everyone's ideas... mine however, tend towards understanding quantum physics... Stephen Hawking (who is at best, only in the top 10 geniuses of our time) said that when we discover the origin of the "Big Bang" we would be "looking into the eyes of God".

[anun]

all christians go to heaven, racists, murderers, rapists, child molesters. all they need do is beg forgiveness and ask for absolution, and bingo the pearly gates await them. assuming you were talking about the christian heaven.

[Torog]

all christians go to heaven, racists, murderers, rapists, child molesters. all they need do is beg forgiveness and ask for absolution, and bingo the pearly gates await them. assuming you were talking about the christian heaven.

Howdy anun,

Yer wrong..first a Christian has to accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour and as the only begotten Son of God. :)

In fact--no one can enter Heaven,unless they accept Jesus Christ.

For those who desire Hell..that's just what they'll git..and they will be the 'life' of the party too..it just won't be any fun,cuz you'll be on the recieving end. :thumbsup:

Have a good one ...

[the image reaper]

Howdy anun,

Yer wrong..first a Christian has to accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour and as the only begotten Son of God. :)

In fact--no one can enter Heaven,unless they accept Jesus Christ.

For those who desire Hell..that's just what they'll git..and they will be the 'life' of the party too..it just won't be any fun,cuz you'll be on the recieving end. :thumbsup:

Have a good one ...

right on, my brother in Christ :thumbsup:

[anun]

Howdy anun,

Yer wrong..first a Christian has to accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour and as the only begotten Son of God. :)

In fact--no one can enter Heaven,unless they accept Jesus Christ.

For those who desire Hell..that's just what they'll git..and they will be the 'life' of the party too..it just won't be any fun,cuz you'll be on the recieving end. :thumbsup:

Have a good one ...

exactly what i'm talking about, that racist, murderer, rapist, child molester finds and accepts jesus he's welcomed.

[Purple Banana]

That's why I simply believe in no god :)

I'm free to do what I will, and because I don't believe in a heaven or a hell, I don't have the eternal threat of damnation for 'sinning,' nor do I have to answer to some ambiguous father-figure in the sky who shakes a fist at me whenever I do something that is simple human nature. God will strike ye down into the eternal flames of Hell if you happen to disagree with him about the nature of sin, but he loves you. And he needs your money.

[Dahhveed]

So, just so that I'm sure Torog, image reaper and to a certain extent, anun...my Buddhist, Islamic, Indian and Jewish friends aren't welcome in the "Christian" version of the afterlife... (unless as Anun says they accept Jesus)...

Considering those faiths outnumber Christians 5 to 1, your heaven seems a little threadbare.

You do understand that Islam, Judaism and Christianity all believe in the same God. Their differences come in the form of their "prophets" which are literally personified by human males (or in the case of Judaism, has yet to be personified). So basically, God's absoluteness is interpreted by man and therefore only those that believe what your man says will gain acceptance into (the perceived all loving) God's heaven?

May I suggest a certain level of tolerance, humility and acceptance that while you may not be wrong for yourself, you may not be right about others.

If nothing else, I hope this forum allows for your mind to be open.

David

[palerider7777]

I would much rather go to Hell then ever go to Heaven.


u just might get ur wish

[palerider7777]

exactly what i'm talking about, that racist, murderer, rapist, child molester finds and accepts jesus he's welcomed.

well 1 of the greatest things god ever gave us was a thing called forgiveness.

ps although i don't care for the priest's either, and the 1 thing i hate the most is a child moleste,r as i think they all should be hung up by there nutz till they almost die, then take them down nurse them back to health then do it all over again. over and over till they die but thats me.either that or just hand them over to michael jackson.:thumbsup:

[slipknotpsycho]

my only wish, is that if afterlife is real (which includes heaven/hell) i GET to walk the earth for eternity...

that is honestly what i'd want... to become a ghost and get to watch earth.... watch people, watch evolution, until the end....


but it brings a question to mind.... i mean, i really don't think spirits are tied to earth (as in when earth did die, it wouldn't mean spirits did as well) so... what would spirits do if a meteor just shattered earth? float around in space forever?

[beachguy in thongs]

Maybe, all the time you spend "not believing", or, committing sins, is spent in purgatory. At least, Heaven could still be the end result. How much havoc could one commit in seventy-plus years, when havoc has been created throughout history?

[anun]

theirs a test that tells you what level of the christian hell you'll be going to when you die, if your a sinner. i'm not comp. literate so the site is [dante's inferno test] google. i'll be tortured in the city of dis.

[silkyblue]

I have doubts we go anywhere after our body dies!

Why would God whatever he or she maybe formed as
why would you be smarter after you die?


heaven is here
Things from heaven are dropped right smack dab in front of us for the takin
then the government takes it all away and puts a price on it, jmho

why cant they find an end to the ocean floor, in some parts?

Why cant they find an end to the galaxy?

Do we just recycle ourself?

What blows my mind is the Sun and moon! imagine the stories they could tell! What keeps them going?

:jointsmile:

[Fallen_Icarus]

I dont know what christians are gonna be doing in their 'land of milk and honey' for eternity.

I mean can you imagine existing for 100,000.000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000 years?

In mathematical terms, you havent even begun eternity.


Do we just recycle ourself?

I think Quantum physics can go to some extent to make sense of how karmic reincarnation could work.

Religion has done nothing but suppress the secret powers of consciousness for centuries.

[pass_the_dubbie]

It's a cool thing to think about since nobody can truly say what happens...I'd hate to think you just shut down...finito. I thought I was dead this morning...cause I had such a vivid dream, I was shot then woke up staring at this plain blue wall. I'd be drinking a bit and was staying at my friends...i'd never seen the room I slept in sober so I freaked out a bit. :hippy:

Ah...I hate thinking about "the afterlife"...it makes me too curious(if not a little excited) to see what happens. Give me a cool montage of my life and ill be happy.

Personally I dont want to start life again as somebody else...I like who I am...

[Fallen_Icarus]

The things that I would 'love to happen and be true' are the things that sadly make little sense, I would enjoy heaven for the first 100,000 years yet after what would be the point in going on?

100,000 years of experience is a lot of experience

If reality, experience and love is a meal... Then im full.

Remember.. 100,000 years compared to an eternity is like comparing an atomic nucleus to the size of every outer universe in existence and whatever these universes reside in.

Its impossible to comprehend.


And imagine how much other life is out there, we as humans have been on this planet for a very short amount of time compared to the existence of earth itself.

I think we've been here for something like 0.5% - 1% of the time since the earth was formed. (Dont quote me on this figure).

[silkyblue]

I dont know, I still wanna to be that fly on the wall ~~

if anything wins in the end, I hope its love,

:jointsmile:

[king of the world]

you would not like to be immortal?

lots of people in this lifetime try to live life to the fullest, so i dont know why they would not like to live in heaven forever.

and in " heaven " you would never be bored so, i would love to be entertained forever.

just my opinion.

[EbelEyes]

u just might get ur wish

Lets hope so...

I don't want to be with God in Heaven. God is the enemy.

But of course I don't think he's real.

But if he is, consider the war on.

[Dahhveed]

heh... silkyblue, ultimately, everyone's hope in a "God" is that it (He or She) is "love". You might be surprised to find out that some of your questions are already answered: because of GPS, our world is very much explored (while not mapped, it is certainly defined).

Also, I think you meant Universe when you said galaxy... not only do we understand and can pinpoint the location of our galaxy, we know undeniable truths of our galaxy's near future (kinda like predicting weather patterns, we know our galaxy is on a collusion course with another galaxy in a few million years..).

I applaud your sentiment :) And I look forward to more of your relevations!

Thanks,
David

[Nailhead]

That's why I'm going to hell, which I hope looks like this:

[attachment=o160281]

:thumbsup:

[beachguy in thongs]

That's why I'm going to hell, which I hope looks like this:

[attachment=o160281]

:thumbsup:

Yeah, they have those posters on the wall.

Too bad they're right next to the Lava Escalator.

[Fallen_Icarus]

you would not like to be immortal?

lots of people in this lifetime try to live life to the fullest, so i dont know why they would not like to live in heaven forever.

and in " heaven " you would never be bored so, i would love to be entertained forever.

just my opinion.

How much milk and honey can you consume in 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000, years? As I have stated heaven would seem great for the first billion years yet you havent even begun eternity even if you multiply this figure by a trillion.

People like to 'live life to its fullest' because they know they do not have an infinite amount of time under their belt, I dont know after a trillion years what more one would wish to experience.

Like ive said before heaven would be great for the first billion years, you would learn and experience everything, yet if you times this amount of time by hundreds of trillions you havent even come close to even beginning eternity yet.

A billion years would be a second compared to eternity.

For example....

Islam talks about virgins and sex in heaven being the primary cerebral experience for us, an idiot would say they wouldnt get bored of having sex with girls for trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of years.

Yet im not an idiot.

Which is why I dont believe in heaven.

And scoring brownie points for sex with 77 virgins does not equal a true expression of love for your God, it is no different to someone sucking my boss' ass for a damn christmas bonus.

Thats all your doing, sucking up to a fictional boss whom you feel will reward you with an eternity of heaven, while you line the pockets of the corrupt priests and caliphs.

All you need to do is look at the stupidity of the actual 'reward' to realise what fools we have been to kill, rape, murder, burn, hate and destroy each other over for!

[afghooey]

o/~ everybody's sayin' that hell's the hippest way to go... well I don't think so but I'm gonna take a look around it though, blue... o/~

[Chong Version 2.0]

Theists are idiots, there is no way around it.

[sd6515]

I'm more then happy with my beliefs in my Lord and Savior and the peace and satisfaction I feel just thinking, reading, learning, communicating, and striving to be more near my Lord. And as a Christian I typically aviod threads like this because the title alone shows what a troll this thread really is but I am happy to see my fellow Christian brothers and sisters in love and I will continue to live my life of love and forgiveness through Christ and show his love through my actions and prayers not my preachings and rants.
A note to those who proclaimed I want to go to hell, that is a troll statement and a half because if you are claiming that you do not believe in God or heaven then in turn there would be no hell so it is a mute statment.
So fellow christians let's have our threads and the trolls that come, come, but we can save ourself many wasted posts and thoughts in wasted space by avoiding threads titled with the intent of pulling you into a thread to see non believers say something as hilarious I want to go to hell when by there very own logic and discussion it doesn't exist because hell is a place made up by religion so if you do not believe in religion then you in turn can not believe in hell. And by our religious definition it doesn't matter how bad you like things you can not enjoy hell I don't see how anyone could party or enjoy an eternity surrounded by brimstone(sulfur) and fire, not to mention it was set up as a place of punishment and the devils only source of enjoyment is torturing the souls of the damned. I don't like to concentrate on the horrids of hell and I would not ever judge anyones soul to hell, as a Christian we are ordered not to but to go as far as and to be as insulting and ignorant as to say to Christians you want to go to hell I thought merited a very short flatering description of it compared to what it must actually be like.

[Fallen_Icarus]

I'm more then happy with my beliefs in my Lord and Savior and the peace and satisfaction I feel just thinking, reading, learning, communicating, and striving to be more near my Lord.

And if this makes you happy then please carry on to do so at your own will, you are free to do so, just as I am free to have my non beliefs.

(I said this on a previous thread and was banned for it, no warning nothing, just banned for saying I am free to express my BELIEF and have my BELIEF just as you are)

Is this fair?


And as a Christian I typically aviod threads like this because the title alone shows what a troll this thread really is but I am happy to see my fellow Christian brothers and sisters in love and I will continue to live my life of love and forgiveness through Christ and show his love through my actions and prayers not my preachings and rants.

Nobody is asking you to come here and view this thread, it is of your own accord you came here, you reacted to it (thats not my fault), we cannot simply 'be quiet' and not discuss the fruitlessness of religion simply to avoid you getting offended.

We are not even talking to you or any christian.

This is not personal.


A note to those who proclaimed I want to go to hell, that is a troll statement

You PERCIEVE it to be a troll statement, and just because you say it is does not make it true.

AC/DC did nothing but talk/sing about hell in a 'cool' way and yeah it looks better having an inverted pentagram on a corvette as oppose to a picture of jesus with a lamb.

The concept of the devil in hell in defiance to authority (God) is a pretty cool concept which is why I can see there is such a wide appeal to it.


I don't like to concentrate on the horrids of hell

Take a trip through palestine if you ever change your mind.

:thumbsup:

And I cant be bothered with the rest of your post.

Peace.

[sd6515]

(I said this on a previous thread and was banned for it, no warning nothing, just banned for saying I am free to express my BELIEF and have my BELIEF just as you are)

Is this fair?

No, and if you have read any of my other post i say over and over that everyone is free to there own beliefs I have mine and would not force them on anyone. However being banned myself and knowing many of the moderators it is usually the way it is said and the ongoing of what is said that makes a comment/s worthy of a ban.
And as for everything else I thank you for the time and effort you put into responding to my thoughts and ramblings but I can not find anything else in your post interesting enough to continue I quoted this one quote to try to return the favor.
And now before things turn into another "discussion" ending in a ban for someone and not changing anyones views I shall leave this discussion and not return:thumbsup:
To each there own beliefs and to all the right to defend but to make a statement like all theists are idiots that is just the most uneducated completely false statement made on here so congradulations, not you fallen you stick to logical, at least to you lol not me on this topic, responses to things said not general moronic false statements.
Would love to continue a discussion but retreat in the always present fear crossing the line and getting the almighty ban

[king of the world]

id rather chill in heaven then burn in hell.

[Chronisseur]

I have accepted myself as my personal lord and savior.:thumbsup:











PS: It's working out wonderfully!:D

[maryjaNe_]

Imagine smoking a joint with God. In heaven, everyone will have 2 spliffs each, there will be weed smoke everywhere, it will be the shit!

Biggest stoner quote ive ever seen haha, awesome though ;). sure be good lightin one up with god hah.

[nft]

Muhammad once said that a nook in paradise was better than the whole world.

Doesn't sound very anticlimactic to me.

[thNk.m0rbid]

i've read the whole thread and it's fucking NUTS.. i would hope theres SOMETHING that happens when you die, not just you die.. and that's the end.. that would be soooo bad i don't even kno how to explain, i like myself and don't want to be erased as if i was never ANYWHERE, too crazy.. iunno i'm pretty blazed but is marijuana a living thing? is it "alive" when you've dried it/cured it and such? what happens when you kill it? where does it go? is there a reason why there's receptors in marijuana? or are they in every other plant also, or are the receptors just in marijuana? and people/animals?.. this whole thing is crazy and i think about it alot :/

[snicklefritz1825]

iunno i'm pretty blazed but is marijuana a living thing? is it "alive" when you've dried it/cured it and such? what happens when you kill it? where does it go? is there a reason why there's receptors in marijuana? or are they in every other plant also, or are the receptors just in marijuana? and people/animals?.. this whole thing is crazy and i think about it alot :/

That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Marijuana is just a plant not somthing that has feelings or a soul.

[sd6515]

That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Marijuana is just a plant not somthing that has feelings or a soul.

Now is that anyway to talk about a plant that is the soul responsibility for so much up to and including this thread and all the replies contained in it i think you owe lady mary jane a sincere apology any seconds on this? lol
lady mj has given us so much i don't think it is out of the realm to consider her feelings after all I know I'm apologizing to my lady's now for this comment

We are sorry lady MJ for any disrespect you may have taken from this
:jointsmile:

[naturelovinpuffer]

i do not believe that there is a heaven or a hell i did the church thing for a bit but bounced the second i got to. it seems so lavish to have a religion tied down to your name

WATCHING KID NATION i tuned into the fact that at that time in the city they were trying to become equal and they found that if would of been better to have some sort or religion and when the town council came to talk to the group no one wanted to blend religions and they all thought that their own religion was the only way and no other way. what is wrong with people these days

I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WHO LIKES TO SMOKE GOES TO CHURCH or believes in god

[sd6515]

I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WHO LIKES TO SMOKE GOES TO CHURCH or believes in god
Well regardless of beliefs but considering that even certain anoiting oils were considered to be believed cannabis oils, IMO it jjust shows how the USA my "country" has made miss wonderful miss MJ out to be a criminal when even educated no fundalmentalist christains know and understand that many of the anoiting oils are belived to be cannabis oil and why besides government do we believe that it is okay for jesus to turn water into wine but not plant into dried plant i mean cannabis is a great and mighty plant that only fears and negativaly effects the immoral the people that fear something is wrong the people weak in there beliefs and morals if anything MJ is the plant of good and evil I mean you can tell a lot from people when they smoke and just because the catholic church edited the bible which is an undeniable fact doesn't mean in ANY way that MJ is contradicted by GOD, why because are modern and obviously riduluos men in charged don't thinkl MJ is right or proper automaticlally means it is unGodly and not right? If that were the case it would be wrong to buy. drive, go to, watch, make our wonderful italian family dinners( i am not italian AT ALL) on sunday I mean MJ is the

[sd6515]

most "GODLY" drug out there. not processsed just dried optimaly for best taste and as long as you are not a retard you can grow and smoke your own and to me that is god looking out for us saying if they say no i make it easy enough to say yes end statement lol sorry foir the double pushed a wrong combo of keys and posted premature lol Gods love to all

[sd6515]

and PLEASE exucuse the triple post but i am offended you believe pot smokers cant be moral and belivieve in god simply for not believing in god and ignoring modern day imoral law there ARE many christain stoners out there and the BIBLE says nothing against it so it is a wrong comment to equate the love of a plant with the degration of a god
please excuse my spelling i am extremely baked now

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

and PLEASE exucuse the triple post but i am offended you believe pot smokers cant be moral and belivieve in god simply for not believing in god and ignoring modern day imoral law there ARE many christain stoners out there and the BIBLE says nothing against it so it is a wrong comment to equate the love of a plant with the degration of a god
please excuse my spelling i am extremely baked now

Actually the rationalization of prohibitionist christians is that the bible says the body is a temple, therefor by "doing drugs" you are abusing your body and the sacred temple god has given you. In a way this is correct because whether or not stoners like to admit it, you are harming your lungs and airways. But there are also numerous beneficial qualities for your health so it's a tradeoff. I think most people here understand that the tradeoff is more in favor of health-benefit than detriment.

So long as people remain ignorant, though, cannabis use is essnetially equated with doing crack of heroin, utterly harmful in every way :rolleyes:

[TheSmokingMonkey]

Believing in heaven would be an epic bummer

Although I disagree with you in some respects, I fucking love this thread title.