2nd Cab grow

[Mr.Blue]

well this will be my 2nd second grow in the cab, i have 3 Hindu kush witch i picked up from Ontario seed bank (Toronto). and 2 seeds that i got out of some "critical mass" bud

the two "crit" seed are in the flowering chamber now(2 70watt hps, 125cfm in-line fan), there wasn't enough room in my veg chamber after i transplanted them all into 5 gal "grow bags"

ill post picture tomorrow

[turtle420]

Yay!

[Opie Yutts]

times almost up for those photos.

[Mr.Blue]

took longer then i thought here they are

[Mr.Blue]

update the two in the flowering chamber threw out a white pistil today. and i added two Hindu Kush to the chamber

[Mr.Blue]

ill update tonight

the "Citi" has been flowering for almost 3 week the Hindu almost 2...i put a screen over top to try this method.....one of my stems snapped but didn't crack or break and is now still growing, should this have any affect on the plant?

[Opie Yutts]

It might stress it slightly and you may notice slower growth for a week or so, but probably not. It should be just fine. Some people do that on purpose, believe it or not. I have broken stems completely off, taped them back together, and they recovered nicely.

[R-L-B BinGall Rec.]

hey there mr. Blue.

opie yutts is right
im going on breaking my stems right now to make em all fit nicely under my screen and no harm done:thumbsup:
i use wet papper tissue to wrap around the stems to keep em moist, but only if they are comepletly brokken of and they to recover. btw nice grow keep it up

[Opie Yutts]

R_L_B, You don't break them on purpose do you? I'm assuming it's by accident when they don't want to go under the screen.

Mr. Blue, Cool idea to have the carbon scrubber and it's duct come straight up the middle like that. But it got me wondering where your light is. Is it in the middle? Why is it so far away from the plants that we can't see it in the pictures? Normally you'd want it as close as possible to the plants. Why isn't the carbon scrubber mounted above the light, or somewhere else out of the way? If you ever have heat issues, it might help to mount it higher, since while on the floor it will suck the hotter air down to the plants. I'm not trying to find fault and I hope it doesn't sound that way. I'm just curious because I've never seen that before.

[R-L-B BinGall Rec.]

no i dont break em on purpose:)
but it happends from time to time that one slips when i tie em to tight or move em around under the screen...

[Mr.Blue]

sorry forgot to check this in a few days...k


well i cant mount it directly to my in-line fan (witch is in the upper part of my cab) because my hole simple isn't large enough n i would need to break my mounting brackets off in order to make it work....secondly the lights are in a lamp shad that i picked up from a basketball court with the two light bulb in the middle...i would move them closer to the plants but the wire aren't long enough n i cant raise my plants up because my door barley shuts as it is......everything is really tightly packed in there, i think i need a bigger cabinet.....pics in next post

[Mr.Blue]

pics taken at 4:26pm Rocktober 21/07...

[Opie Yutts]

I see now. Looks pretty good. Nice going with that partial stadium screen. I see you can't really have your light any lower or the way the reflector is designed it will not allow light to reach the outer edges.

A note about your pictures. They look like a screen has been layed over them, especially when you reduce them in size. This is partially due to the mode of gif format you choose to save them in. For the internet, pictures should always be saved in jpeg, and anything that has a lot of just solid colors should be saved in gif format.

[Mr.Blue]

plant are doing well i picked up two more nutes, the first is Vita max b1 formula and the other is CannaMax PK -0-30-20

ill post pics in a few Min's

[Mr.Blue]

i cant get ride of these damn mite anyone anyways of slowing these guys down so they dint do to much damage am about 1/2 through flowering and all my effort failed i tryed using dish soap n water n spraying them but i don't know if this will effect the buds anyone?

[hydrocannabis]

well they do look great.

[Opie Yutts]

I've tried all kinds of things to get rid of mites, and by far the one that worked the best is a No Pest Strip. They don't knock em back, they kill them. Just use them now, and not later. Not only do mites reproduce real fast, but I would not use that pest strip in the last couple weeks of flowering. It is extremely toxic. Not the yellow sticky things, the yellow toxic things. Do an advanced search using my name and look for spider mite stuff.

If you do it much later than now, I would use a neem oil solution to keep knocking them back until after harvest, then kill em dead.

[evertking]

Nice looking plants Mr. Blue!

[Mr.Blue]

well i put one of thoughts strips in there three days ago, i believe n the problem is getting worse with each passing day. So i prepaid for battle, i armed my self with some seizors and a mist bottle full of freezing cold water n i started to cut away the leafs with the most damage. by the time i was finished i took more leafs off then i planed everything still ok i hope this kinda fixed my spider problem...


ill post pics in a few mins i just finished welding class so i need to shower before going in

[Opie Yutts]

Are you sure you used Spectacide brand No Pest Strip? And did you read my threads about how to use the strips? You can't have a lot of ventilation, just like with bombing, you'll want to turn your ventilation off at night for 3 or 4 nights and your problem will be solved. Promise. Unless perhaps you don't have a door on your setup. In that case I would hang a blanket over the open space, turn off the ventilation for even just one night, and you should see them dieing. Use for one week to be completely sure. I am mite free now, as many people are who have used the strips.

Neem oil solutions will make them angry and knock them back a little. You could keep doing this until harvest, then scrub your grow room with bleach. I would not cut off any leaves. Your plants need those for sugar production and stuff.

Ah, hell. Read these:

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/64107-spider-mites.html
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/70400-aaahhh-spider-mites.html

[Mr.Blue]

yeah i know i only cut off the larger fan leaves witch happen to take up more space then i imagine. i cant sit here for four day n play around with this stuff not for this grow i am just finishing up mid term, so i decided to remove the fan leaves n put a big fan blowing on them all day...the fan brought the temperature of the room down from 88degrees to 70...

i know for next time how to do it properly and hopefully have more time battling these pest off instead of removing the leaves.


here are the pics...let me know how much damage i did

[Opie Yutts]

I'm sure they'll be fine. The overall yield might not end up quite as good as if you left the leaves on, but any difference won't be much. They may look like they kinda stopped growing for a few days while they recover, but if this does happen don't worry.

Your leaf tips are browning and that's a sign of too much nutrients. I would suggest backing it of very slightly. OR watch it carefully and if it doesn't get any worse than it is now it will be fine.

And I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt, but I contend that it would take less time to put a couple of No Pest Strips in there and turn the ventilation off at night, than it would to cut off the fan leaves. But then again, maybe not. Each to his own, you gotta do what you gotta do, different strokes for different folks, birds of feather... No wait, that's not one.

Looking good overall. Nice.

[Mr.Blue]

your not a pain in the ass, i appreciate the time your taken to help me


thoughts leafs tips have been yellow/brown for 3-4 days now n i gave them just water today n backed up on the nute yesterday...should i go full nutes (not full but back to Wat i was using) or lower it slightly?

[Opie Yutts]

Whatever amount you were using, I would probably just use slightly less for awhile and see if it stops happening. Then if you want to find out the absolute maximum she'll take, you start increasing very slowly while watching for signs of stress again. Once you see the first sign of stress you know that is too much, and you need to use the amount just before the one that caused stress.

Or if you are monitoring your PPM, if you have say, 1400, try 1325 instead.

[Mr.Blue]

lately when i mix my nutes with out buffing the Ph my water Ph is 6.0 n i currently have no Ph up. i do however have a Ph buffer in the soil. the plants don't seem to notice the different though.... so everything still good. update time i believe

[Opie Yutts]

mmm, yummy. Even some of those leaves are getting sugar frosted. Looks good, so I don't know what to say, except keep up the good work, and can I come over in a few weeks?

[Mr.Blue]

well the two crit plants are arriving the 8 week mark (next week around)....i went to check the tricoms(sp) and it looked like a white sea of them...but the major of my pistils are still white...i don't know if this mean anything so can someone please tell me there insight.



pics...first two are the crit the third and fourth is the hindu

ps: 300 post woot

[Opie Yutts]

Nice.

The hairs turning colors means next to nothing (Please don't yell at me about this). Basically, the closer to harvest time it is, the more hairs there will be that have turned brown. There is obviously a correlation between trichomes being ready and what percentage of the hairs are brown. But not only does it vary widely between varieties, but it could vary between plants, depending on what you've fed it, genetics, blah, blah, blah. Once you have worked with your particular plants for awhile, you can use your magnifying tool less, and the tool between your ears more. I mean to determine when to harvest by means of pistil color. It also depends on how you like your weed. Clear, cloudy, amber? For example, soon you may start to realize that for your variety, once 90% of the hairs in the top 2/3 of your canopy have turned brown, then roughly 5% of the trichomes are amber, 5% are clear, and the rest are cloudy. Just exactly the way you like it.

Hmm, I'm thinking that should be a sticky or something. People keep asking about that all the time. No offense intended whatsoever, Mr. Blue.

[Mr.Blue]

well i went and check my plants today to refresh my memorie....only one of the crit plant is starting to get covered with red hair...the second one has red hair but not nearly as many as the first... so I started to flush the one with the most today, I plan to cut it down this weekend..(probly more like Monday or Tuesday, never have free time).....am gonna leave the second Crit plant in there for another week or two. the hindu still have 3-4 weeks...


opie yutts- ill never yell at you, not after all the help you gave me along the way....

[Mr.Blue]

sorry about pic quality i couldn't get the camera to focus on the whole plant and i didn't feel like playing with the setting

first two or the Hindus, the second is the "crit" the other picture wont load ill update tomrrow with better ones