Pregnancy and Urine Testing

[earthmomma]

Hi guys, wonder if you can give me some advice. I just recently found out I am pregnant, and I stopped smoking when I found out.

I am scheduled for a urine drug test as part of my pregnancy prenatals, but what if they find a small amount of thc in my urine, from before I gave up? I'm medium build and was only smoking a weakly rolled joint once a day, for about 10 months.

Are they cool about it if you have given up? Or will they be fascists and start threatening me? I'm on a visiting visa here from the UK, where they are less scary about pot than in the U.S.A, so I get a bit over paranoid about the laws here I guess... I just find it appalling that they might kick up a fuss about thc, and yet they don't test people for smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol, which are far more harmful to an unborn child!

Anyway hopefully I can pass this test and then I'll stay clean until I finish breastfeeding... keep your fingers crossed for me!

[FakeBoobsRule]

I am scheduled for a urine drug test as part of my pregnancy prenatals, but what if they find a small amount of thc in my urine, from before I gave up?
If they are giving you a drug test and you fail it, it is never a good thing. I don't know the particulars of your case but it doesn't sound like they will be too happy with you if you fail it. So why not pass it and that way you don't have to find out what they are going to do to you. When was the last time you smoked?

[killerweed420]

Yeah I would definitely sub.

[stars stars stars]

You can't sub for a prenatal test. There are specific hormones in a pregnant women's urin and chemicals and ish. That would just be moronic and they're either think you're not pregnant or are subbing.

Hon, I'd dilute as much as possible as subbing isn't an option. But it also depends on when you last smoked, if it was around a month ago you should be fine..the longer the better. Keep us updated!

[psychocat]

I'm glad to hear you have a sensible and responsible attitude to your unborn child, so many women are selfish and keep on tokin and drinking even though it's been proven to be harmful. How long since you last toked and your build and metabolism are all factors so unless I have that info it would be useless to even speculate.
On average three months is enough time for cannabis to be completely out of your system so if it's been longer than that you should be fine, if they do find traces it is (IMO) best to be honest and just tell them you were toking but you stopped for your unborn child, I think most medics would respect that more than if you tried to blag it.

[silkyblue]

Earthmomma,

Thats so kewl~~

babylove !

my girlfrind "smoked weed" 5 times a day, M also smoked cigs, when she was pregnant
her baby girl was born with Asthma, but thats all, maybe under birth weight Misty weighed, 5 lbs,

anything you injest goes to the baby
Id go for healthy you do want a healthy baby

I couldnt smoke anything when I was pregnant
I was to ill,

good luck

[silkyblue]

as for drug testing buy a kit at Walmart it will tell you if your drug free
good luck again!

[FoSho]

Can't offer much advice on the issue, but I'd just like to say that I applaud your dedication to your unborn child :) You've just earned my respect :thumbsup:

[Herb4Life]

i don't think you have anything to worry about...my friend smoked the whole time she was pregnant and had THC in her urine everytime she went to the doctor. They told her the risks of low bith weight on the baby, but her's was in the 95% of weight. Even after she was born they tested her and told her since it was only MJ that she could still breast feed. They told her that the law only gets involved if it is other types of drugs, if it's only MJ they don't worry about it...

[Comatose]

Ok, some advice for you.

Don't sub out someone elses urine for your own in this kind of situation. They are giving you a urine test for other reasons than screening drugs. They aren't out to get you. Besides that, the urine you sub out will not work unless it comes from a pregnant woman. Male urine is slightly different than female urine, and a woman that is pregnant will have urine slightly different than a nonpregnant woman.

Also, my mom smoked the entire time I was in her womb, and I turned out just fine. I'm a college student thats about to enter the real world. But, I definately stand up and applaud the fact that you are willing to completely clean your body up already to have this baby, great job.

[psychocat]

i don't think you have anything to worry about...my friend smoked the whole time she was pregnant and had THC in her urine everytime she went to the doctor. They told her the risks of low bith weight on the baby, but her's was in the 95% of weight. Even after she was born they tested her and told her since it was only MJ that she could still breast feed. They told her that the law only gets involved if it is other types of drugs, if it's only MJ they don't worry about it...


This is possibly the most iresponsible attitude and anyone who smokes while pregnant is putting thier child at risk, if you wish to smoke that's fine but exposing an unborn child to it is IMO the act of a selfish idiot.

[Herb4Life]

This is possibly the most iresponsible attitude and anyone who smokes while pregnant is putting thier child at risk, if you wish to smoke that's fine but exposing an unborn child to it is IMO the act of a selfish idiot.


hey, i am not saying i would smoke while pregnant..in fact, i have no intention of having children, so it will never be an issue in my life..i am just telling someone the medical/legal experience of someone i know, and that she should not worry about legal ramifications if something like cannibanoids came up in her urine sample....in my friends situation, her mom smoked while pregnant for her, and she smoked while pregnant with her daughter they obviously see things differently than you....

[psychocat]

It's been proven time and again that smoking whilst pregnant is harmfull and a stupid thing to do , it's as simple as that .

[rebgirl420]

^I agree psychocat. I think smoking or drinking or ANYTHING of the sort is selfish and irresponsible. Even if it is proven to be safe, its your childs life, why risk it? Especially for just a joint?

And I wouldn't sub. Just go in and tell them you smoked before you knew. And that your stopping asap. I'm sure you'll be fine.

[Burnt Toast]

It's been proven time and again that smoking whilst pregnant is harmfull and a stupid thing to do , it's as simple as that .
Apparently you missed the part about how there is no evidence that shows cannabis is bad for a developing fetus or developing baby. Please do some research before you step on your soapbox and make such claims...here, I'll save you the time:




Originally Posted by Pediatrics, February 1994, Volume 93, Number 2, pp. 254-260.
Participants. Twenty-four Jamaican neonates exposed to marijuana prenatally and 20 nonexposed neonates.

Measurements and main results. Exposed and nonexposed neonates were compared at 3 days and 1 month old, using the Brazelton Neonatal Assessment Scale, including supplementary items to capture possible subtle effects. There were no significant differences between exposed and nonexposed neonates on day 3. At 1 month, the exposed neonates showed better physiological stability and required less examiner facilitation to reach organized states. The neonates of heavy-marijuana-using mothers had better scores on autonomic stability, quality of alertness, irritability, and self-regulation and were judged to be more rewarding for caregivers.

Conclusions. The absence of any differences between the exposed on nonexposed groups in the early neonatal period suggest that the better scores of exposed neonates at 1 month are traceable to the cultural positioning and social and economic characteristics of mothers using marijuana that select for the use of marijuana but also promote neonatal development.

Pediatrics 1994;93:254-260; prenatal marijuana exposure, neonatal outcomes, Jamaica, Brazelton scale supplementary items.

Here's some more for ya:



A second study reported a threefold grater risk of rhabdomyosarcoma. These calculations were based on women's reports that they used marijuana at some point during pregnancy. In the first study, ten out of the 204 case-group mothers (5 percent) reported marijuana use, compared to one out of the 204 control group mothers (0.5 percent). In the second study, 8 percent of case group mothers reported using marijuana, compared to 4.3 percent of controls.

These studies to not prove that marijuana use by pregnant women causes cancer in their children. They report a statistical association based solely on women's self-reports of marijuana use. It is likely that both groups of mothers underreported marijuana use; in other studies, researchers have found that marijuana use by pregnant women typically ranges from 10 to 30 percent. There is reason to suspect greater underreporting by control-group mothers, who were randomly selected and questioned about their marijuana use on the telephone. Because the mothers of the sick children were trying to help researchers identify the cause of their children's disease, they had more reason to be honest about their illegal drug use.

And some more...



In one study, children of ganja-using mothers were tested and compared with children of non-ganja using mothers. Tests were conducted when the children were 1, 3, and 30 days old, and at ages four and five.

No statistically significant differences in developmental abilities were found, except that the 30-day test showed that children of ganja-using mothers were superior to children of non-ganja mothers in two ways. These children had better organization and modulation of sleeping and waking, and they were less prone to stress-related anxiety.

The release of these study results was considered politically incorrect by anti-marijuana factions in government and academia, because they so directly contradicted the oft-repeated assertion that prenatal marijuana use hurts children and that marijuana users were poor mothers. Dreher's studies found the opposite: ganja mothers were often better mothers than their non-ganja using counterparts. Their households were often cleaner, better-funded and more fun than those where cannabis was shunned!

Eh, some more...




Ganja is also used as a strength-enhancing potion to enable children to perform arduous tasks. The use of ganja to increase work performance is a common theme in Jamaican ganja culture; men use it to help them survive in the torrid sugar cane fields, women use it to give them strength to do lots of tiring household chores by hand.

Ganja mothers also believe that ganja helps their children perform better in school. Ganja does this by increasing children's ability to concentrate on schoolwork, to pay attention to what the teacher is saying, not to be distracted by school mates or the activities of other classes, to sit quietly in class, to complete homework even when tired, and to handle the stress of examinations. Jamaican women refer to ganja as "Wisdom Weed," and as the king of bush teas which had sometimes saved lives when doctors were unavailable.

Ganja women have two primary methods for preparing ganja infusions consumed by children. Ganja tea is made by boiling or steeping leaves and stems, then adding large quantities of sugar and, sometimes, milk. Flavor-rich ingredients such as anise or mint are sometimes added to teas to disguise their taste; family members are sometimes unaware that they are consuming ganja tea. This also lends more credibility to Dreher's findings because it eliminates the placebo effect which can occur when people have been told that they have ingested a drug.

[...]

"I don't want to belittle the problems or concerns of North American parents who worry about drug use among children," Dreher continued, "but it's very possible that marijuana is being blamed for problems it has nothing to do with such as poor nutrition, societal decay, lackluster schools, and incompetent parenting. We need to be very careful not to ignore the social setting and ideology that surrounds substance use in different societies when we attempt to evaluate how a drug affects people or society. My Jamaican studies indicate that, in the case of marijuana, we might want to re-examine our assumptions and myths, especially when they contradict reality."

...and...




A new study of children born to Marijuana-smoking mothers found no link between Marijuana exposure and the birth defects of fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS). The new study, by Dr. Susan J. Astley of the University of Washington, published in the January, 1992 issue of Pediatrics, contradicted a 1982 study by Dr. Ralph Hingson, in which prenatal exposure to Marijuana was found to increase the risk of FAS.

...and...




Marijuana has little evidence implicating it in fetal harm, unlike alcohol, cocaine or tobacco. Epidemiological studies have found no evident link between prenatal use of Marijuana and birth defects in humans. A recent study by Dr. Susan Astley at the University of Washington refuted an earlier work suggesting that cannabis might cause fetal alcohol syndrome.

...and...




A well-controlled study found that cannabis use had a positive impact on birthweight during the third trimester of pregnancy with no adverse behavioral consequences. Another study of Jamaican women who had smoked pot throughout pregnancy found that their babies registered higher on developmental scores at the age of 30 days, while experiencing no significant effects on birthweight or length.

...and.....



Cognitive and receptive language development were examined in 135 60-month-old and 137 72-month-old children for whom prenatal exposure to Marijuana, cigarettes, and alcohol had been ascertained. Discriminant Function analysis revealed an association between prenatal cigarette exposure and lower cognitive and receptive language scores at 60 and 72 months. This paralleled and extended observations made with this sample at annual assessments at 12 to 48 months of age. Unlike observations made at 48 months, prenatal exposure to Marijuana was not associated with the cognitive and verbal outcomes.

...and...



Children whose mothers smoked during pregnancy had somewhat higher adjusted Raven and PPVT scores than children of nonsmokers, although they did not differ in their activity level.â?� In other words, children whose mothers smoked during pregnancy did somewhat better on standard cognitive development tests than children of nonsmokers.



For the record, I don't think cannabis is bad for children, mothers who are pregnant, or developing babies. Why would something nontoxic that is not harmful to adults all of a sudden be harmful for children? You are falling into the trap of the prohibitionists who cry "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!"

Education. Such a great thing.
:)

[typoerror]

theres was an article in high times a few years ago about a study between 4 groups of pregnant women. those that drank alcohol during pregnancy, those that smoke cigs, those that smoke bud, and those that did nothing. the results found that babies born from mothers who smoked bud were just as healthy if not more so(higher birth weight and faster development) as the women that did nothing.

also in the article it gave advice about drug testing during pregnancy. basicly it said be upfront with your doctor and if he/she has problem with it go to another doctor.

[weedweasel]

it's not unusual for midwives to suggest a toke or two in the event that an expectant mother suffers from hyperemesis. in this case it would be beneficial for the unborn child.