3-Leaf Retarded Plant?

[sumatransbitehard]

i planted a Purple tangerine seed about 3 weeks ago and i noticed the first leaves were 3(three) round leafs and 3 regular mj leaves.

i originally planted it in soil and later that day my gf put about 4 more inches of soil on top of the surface and planted her own seeds (she didnt know i was growing the pot). She planted Bachelors buttons..not sure if this has anything to do with it.
i've never seen this before and i thought maybe somebody would know about this here.

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[killerweed420]

Its a tomato plant.lol

[sumatransbitehard]

Also, the main stem appears to be abnormally large in terms of thickness and strength. Maybe because it had to grow up 6inches of soil to the surface? Please, any knowledge is good knowledge.

Thanks

[sumatransbitehard]

It now has 2 leafs growing out in each direction (so a total of 4) coming out from the sides of the 3 leafs it had made before.

SOMEBODY here has to know something? I know it's not normal.

If it helps, the strain is Purple Tangerine... ??? Any help/knowledge welcome??

[stinkyattic]

Whorled phylotaxy... :D
A not TERRIBLY uncommon mutation, and perfectly safe- that plant isn't sick, just... think of Zaphod Beeblebrox!

[socialistpete]

think of Zaphod Beeblebrox!

lol:thumbsup:

[sumatransbitehard]

So should I continue growing it or not? Will it have any effect on yield or potency? Thanks.

[twoguysupnorth]

grow,grow,grow. it looks odd but will likely come out normal.

[stinkyattic]

Safe as in it's not a mutation that will kill the plant.

[sumatransbitehard]

Here is an update, guys.

If you take a look at the pics, you'll see the top 3 leaves NOW have 2 leafs growing around each of them. lol, i haven't seen this before and i'll just keep her growing and see what happens.

Whatya think?

[sumatransbitehard]

Here is an update, guys.

If you take a look at the pics, you'll see the top 3 leaves NOW have 2 leafs growing around each of them. lol, i haven't seen this before and i'll just keep her growing and see what happens.

Whatya think?

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[Delta9Haze420]

Lol this is amusing, I am enjoying it :eat:. I just wish I could play with it - God knows what I might do to #$%^ with it just to see how it responds :D. Grab something with iron in it and move it around the plant, see if its magnetic - maybe it has mutant superpowers! :abduct: Maybe it was abducted as a seed - is it from growshop Alien? Lol... Anyway keep up the good work and take care of it! Good luck :thumbsup:

[Mr. Clandestine]

Looks like you have a very confused indica on your hands! That's the first time I've seen leaves grow in such fashion...but apparently, it's healthy and so you shouldn't worry too much about anything at this stage.

I'm not familiar with your strain, and so can't give any tailored advice for your plants specific needs. Are you sure it was "purple tangerine", and if so, did you order the seeds from a reputable breeder? Anyway, I'm also curious to see how it turns out...so keep the pictures coming!

[sumatransbitehard]

it has grown quite a bit since the last pictures..

i'll upload a few more tomorrow sometime. I'm 99% sure the strain is "Purple Tangerine". My homee has a club card from from the state here in CA and he got some ''Purple Tangerine'' from the club and had some seeds in the sack and hooked me up with em. So.. it's some kind of purp, so that would mean Sativa? I'm wondering how tall it will get at harvest??

Thanks guys, updates :stoned:

[sumatransbitehard]

Well, here's the update. It looks like there are 3-4 new leaves coming from the top. I can't really make it out yet. Should I wait another month or so before flowering or what?

Thanks.
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[Mr. Clandestine]

I'd wait about a month - possibly longer - if it were me. It really depends on what type of lights you're using for the vegetative stage. If you're using HPS or MH, then you could probably induce flowering in about a month and have a nice robust plant to work with. But, on the other hand, if you're using fluorescents then it may take a little bit longer to rear. Many flouro setups simply can't produce the explosive/vigorous growth that HID's do, but then again...if done right, CFL's and even some quality all-spectrum tubes can prove to be quite the exception to the rule.

I would have guessed from the pictures that this little darling was an indica, possibly a sativa/indica hybrid. But that's just from judging by the shape of the foliage. I could be completely mistaking, and if I am, then I apologize.

Looking forward to seeing more pics!

[hoghuntr76]

I have the same type of thing going on my plant. all the new growth that come out has three sets of leaves instead of two. It started on like the third node. how do you post pics?

[JohnHerer]

I have the same type of thing going on my plant. all the new growth that come out has three sets of leaves instead of two. It started on like the third node. how do you post pics?

:sadcrying::fish:

[sumatransbitehard]

I have the same type of thing going on my plant. all the new growth that come out has three sets of leaves instead of two. It started on like the third node. how do you post pics?

When you are creating your post, look towards the top of the Message: box and you'll see an image of a paperclip (right next to the smiley face, to the right of 'Fonts'). Click on the paperclip and upload your photos, after they have uploaded close the upload window and click the paperclip logo again and click on 'Insert All' on the dropdown menu.


So post some pics of your plant. Not sure if it's the same mutation or not? Mine was growing with 3 each since the first leaves came out.

[sumatransbitehard]

I'd wait about a month - possibly longer - if it were me. It really depends on what type of lights you're using for the vegetative stage. If you're using HPS or MH, then you could probably induce flowering in about a month and have a nice robust plant to work with. But, on the other hand, if you're using fluorescents then it may take a little bit longer to rear. Many flouro setups simply can't produce the explosive/vigorous growth that HID's do, but then again...if done right, CFL's and even some quality all-spectrum tubes can prove to be quite the exception to the rule.

I would have guessed from the pictures that this little darling was an indica, possibly a sativa/indica hybrid. But that's just from judging by the shape of the foliage. I could be completely mistaking, and if I am, then I apologize.

Looking forward to seeing more pics!

Well, for one, the plant has been growing outside since planted. So i'm not using any lights. I'm actually in the process if getting my state cannabis card (i live in northern california) so I can (legally) grow it inside. But for now, it will remain outside. So, should I just let her be, give daily waterings and just see what happens after a month?

I'm pretty sure its a Sativa, man. I found about 8 seeds from a 1oz bag of ''Purple Tangerine'' from the cannabis club in Hayward, CA. I'm I wrong, or isn't all Purple strains Sativa? I've smoked this strain before (Purple Tangerine) at least 50 times and its some good purp, not up there with the grandaddy purple but its still some fire. So, will this plant (at one point or another) adapt the Purple colors? Thanks again all, updates coming on Friday.

[hoghuntr76]

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[hoghuntr76]

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[hoghuntr76]

I think that is what you are talking about right? instead of two new shoots coming out this plant has three.

[sumatransbitehard]

yeah that looks like the same thing, just looks a little different because of different strain.

i think it's called whorled "polytaxy"?

do you have any idea on what strain you are growing?

Thanks. :stoned:

[Mr. Clandestine]

I'm actually in the process if getting my state cannabis card (i live in northern california) so I can (legally) grow it inside.

I can't express how much how much I envy you! I need to move to California...


I'm pretty sure its a Sativa, man. I found about 8 seeds from a 1oz bag of ''Purple Tangerine'' from the cannabis club in Hayward, CA. I'm I wrong, or isn't all Purple strains Sativa?

I know Purple #1 was an indica/sativa hybrid...but I'm not even sure if the original strain is still being produced. Been a while since I've looked into any seedbanks.

I'll assume that it's a female, and if so, you could be seeing some flowering pretty soon. And I'm pretty sure that it's the temperature that determines just how purple the buds will get. The plant has a genetic predisposition to produce purple flowers, but I think that the cooler the temperature is outside, the darker purple the flowers will become. This would also be assuming that you intend to let nature's photoperiod flower your plant, and won't be bringing it inside for the twelve hours of darkness.

I live in a MUCH less tolerant state, and don't know the first thing about cannabis clubs. But maybe you could try sending them an anonymous letter or email, telling them of your maladies and specific questions, and seeking expert advice from someone who's intimately familiar with the strain? That's probably what I would do.

[sumatransbitehard]

I've heard Purple strains are pretty hardy and can grow through colder climates. What will happen if it is left outside, any yield whatsoever?

I stand corrected, Purple#1 was a 50/50. ;)

SO, since it will be growing in a 'cooler' climate, it could effect the color of the plant? I've also heard you can spray NOS on the plant but thats another subject.

Thanks. :rastasmoke:

[Mr. Clandestine]

I wouldn't leave it outside. If it happened to survive the sporadic freezing nights, you're right, it probably wouldn't yield anything substantial.

From what I remember reading about a few purple strains, cooler temperatures will result in a darker purple. Potency would probably remain unaffected, but you'd most likely have a purple -er bud nonetheless.

I've heard stories of somehow supplementing plants with nitrous oxide, but I couldn't attest to anything I haven't tried. If I had a tank of NOS, I probably would be worrying too much about supplementing the plants. I'd be too busy floating on cloud #9 from doing "whippets" all the time! :upsidedow

[sumatransbitehard]

Update: Oct 5

Here's the update. She has some kind of growth on the 2nd node (picture below). I'm not sure whether it is just more leaf growth or if its beginning to flower. I still have it outside, debating on bringing it inside yet or not.

As you can see there are 3 new leafs that came out at the top and there are 2 leafs on each side of them. :wtf:

WEIRD

Thanks, :pimp:

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[Dr. Bloor]

[quote=Mr. Clandestine]Looks like you have a very confused indica on your hands! That's the first time I've seen leaves grow in such fashion...but apparently, it's healthy and so you shouldn't worry too much about anything at this stage.

I'm not familiar with your strain, and so can't give any tailored advice for your plants specific needs. Are you sure it was "purple tangerine", and if so, did you order the seeds from a reputable breeder? Anyway, I'm also curious to see how it turns out...so keep the pictures coming![/QUOTE

That looks like a pure Sativa not Indica. I have both of them going right now. Pure strains. That is A skunk if I have ever seen one! Very nice high. Dr. Bloor
Picture 1 should be the pure sativa picture 2 the pure indica

[sumatransbitehard]

[quote=Mr. Clandestine]Looks like you have a very confused indica on your hands! That's the first time I've seen leaves grow in such fashion...but apparently, it's healthy and so you shouldn't worry too much about anything at this stage.

I'm not familiar with your strain, and so can't give any tailored advice for your plants specific needs. Are you sure it was "purple tangerine", and if so, did you order the seeds from a reputable breeder? Anyway, I'm also curious to see how it turns out...so keep the pictures coming![/QUOTE

That looks like a pure Sativa not Indica. I have both of them going right now. Pure strains. That is A skunk if I have ever seen one! Very nice high. Dr. Bloor
Picture 1 should be the pure sativa picture 2 the pure indica

I'm not sure if you were talking to me or Clandestine? I'm positive my strain is Purple Tangerine, so wouldn't it be a 50/50 or a 60/40 Sativa? I can already smell it, it's starting to put off a nice heavy aroma.

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That looks like a pure Sativa not Indica. I have both of them going right now. Pure strains. That is A skunk if I have ever seen one! Very nice high. Dr. Bloor
Picture 1 should be the pure sativa picture 2 the pure indica

sorry, dude, that's just wrong ... if you're talking about the two pics posted with your response, neither are even close to pure ... both of those are obvious hybrids ... sativas are much narrower-leafed than Pic#1, and Indicas are much wider and darker than Pic #2 ... :smokin:

[the image reaper]

just so you'll know, here's a photo, of a 100% cannabis-sativa, my 'Willie Nelson', a hybrid of Vietnamese Black and Highland Nepalese ... notice the leaves ... I don't have a photo of a pure indica handy, as I pretty much only grow sativas, and sativa-dominants ... hope this helps ... :smokin: